Honda CITY vs Skoda SLAVIA | Real buyer analysis if MILEAGE and SAFETY is a priority
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- City Pros and Cons as per Team-BHP
Likes:
Feeling of a premium sedan - comfort, looks, luxury - the rear bench is heavenly
Appreciable ride quality - smooths out the pothole riddled roads
Truly key-less entry and exit - configurable via the settings
Sporty engine note and exhilaration on revving beyond 5K RPM - rev happy engine
Paddle shifters - for that quick downshift while going over a ghat or attempting an overtake - in both the "S" mode as well as the "D" mode
The "S" mode unleashes the beast to deliver the sportiness expected from this gem of a 1.5L Naturally Aspirated i-VTEC engine
ORVM allows a peek of the road from between the A-pillar and the mirror mounting point - reduces the blind-spot created by A-pillar
3 point seat belt for all occupants - even for rear center passenger
6 Airbags
Physical climate control knobs with a click on each turn - no need to fumble while driving
Hit the power button on infotainment system and it will be muted - handy to quickly silence the cabin while reversing or attending an incoming call
8 speaker setup (on ZX) is fulfilling - needs to be tuned to your liking from the settings - works best with connected phone not so much with radio
All four windows as well as the sun-roof have pinch-guard
All four windows as well as the sun-roof have one-touch operation (on ZX)
All four windows as well as the sun-roof can be opened using the key remotely
No under-body scraping yet (in ~4 weeks of ownership)
Approx. 5L of reserve even when fuel tank level shows 0
Honda Connect App works as advertised, also maintains an automatic log of each trip with Distance, Avg. Speed and Trip Duration
Dis-Likes:
Presence of hard plastics on the interiors
Stock tyres are under-sized - had to upgrade it as soon as the car moved out of showroom
IRVM is a size smaller for my liking
Boring mid-range rev
No electric/assisted seat adjustments
No memory for seat adjustments
No passenger side seat adjustments
No cooled/ventilated seats
If the car is parked outside on a sunny afternoon the air conditioning can feel inadequate to the rear passengers
The sound insulation can be better - road noises do seep in, better than hatchbacks not so much when compared to premium sedans
No 360 degree camera feed!
The camera feeds (both lane change camera as well as reverse camera) is quite dated (feels like last decade) - Honda seriously needs to consider higher-resolution cameras with better low light performance
The infotainment system looks dated - competition provides larger, more vibrant, higher-resolution displays for their infotainment system
With the sun-roof open on a sunny afternoon, the visibility of infotainment screen seems poor
Slotting the transmission to "R" does not automatically mute/reduce volume of infotainment system - our Polo had this nifty feature
TPMS is more of a mathematical formula to determine deflation of a tyre and not really a pressure monitoring system
The front over-hang scraped twice in a period of ~4 weeks
The front center arm rest doesn't slide - can be an inconvenience
The Trip 1 doesn't reset to 0 automatically after a certain period of no use i.e. I need to remember to reset the Trip 1 before every journey - our Polo used to reset Trip A after two hours of being parked and it helped to check the trip stats. Honda Connect App maintains a trip log automatically for each journey and I now rely on the app more than the MID.
SKODA SLAVIA Pros and Cons (Team-BHPian)
Positives:
Ride and handling balance
Looks, it will age well
Tyre size of 205/55 offers good sidewall
Engine & gearbox combination- there's something for everyone
Comfortable-airy cabin & great ergonomics
Throw from headlights is strong (Achilles heel of Rapid)
Brakes are surefooted
1.0 is an all rounder and there's nothing like 1.5TSi
Features like seat ventilation, Rake-reach steering, XDS, MCB, TC, ESP, E brake boost etc.
Negatives:
I need full underbody cover
Lights in the glove box is missing
No auto up-down on all 4 windows like Rapid.
Ambition variant vis a vis Kushaq lacks features
Temperature & blower controls are fine but rest needed me to take my eyes off the road to fiddle with climatronic control
Not offering monte Carlo edition is a crime
Steering is precise but lacks feedback, would have liked more feedback atleast in the 1.5 TSi variant. I guess light EPS is the norm these days (I miss you fiesta)
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Basically I would say if you can afford top Variant then slavia makes more sense.
However if you're budget is not that high the city V destroys the slavia active in terms of sheer VFM. That slavia active is just a pathetic joke compared to city V. Ambition misses out on some features but overall it's decent compared to city unlike the active. Wish it had 6 airbags like city VX.
Let's see if virtus highline with its LED lights and same alloys as topline can compete with city VX. But not having automatic AC at this price again is just illogical, but I guess that's how VW does things.
Also would like to add the subwoofer on slavia top variant and that 380w sound system really slaps above the price. Also ventilated seats are a cool bonus(no pun intended)
In typical VW fashion virtus has ommited the subwoofer. Kudos to them.
@@balram7428 I agree that Slavia Style with 6 airbags and other features is extremely VFM and better than City. Not to forget that 10 inch screen is sharper in the day light, wireless charging and connectivity is a boon too.
@@SunderdeepSingh Also I would like to add that it's been a couple of months after deliveries began and so far not many complaints of rattling or any new issues. So I feel unlike the SUV brothers these 2 sedans are more polished products (india 2.1 I guess) and so I have very little hesitation recommending these two.
In fact a relation of mine who has been waiting from last year since taigun and kushaq issues, for these 2 cars and will be buying the top variant in MT of either of these cars in the next 2 months. The real question is crystal blue or rising blue metallic at the moment lol.
Of course you're positive initial ownership experience of slavia also strengthened my conviction.
Apt analysis . The city V variant is a steal at the price
@@balram7428 Best Diesel sedan c sedan ? Can you suggest me
I really wish they had not discontinued the new Honda Civic. My heart skips a beat everytime I see it on road 😍 City looks really average in exterior design. No option but will have to consider Slavia for its stylish looks and performance.
City looks better than slavia bro..hv seen on roads..slavia looks good but city 2022 is better👍
City looks far better than 20 lakh sedan present on road, 2020+ city is killer
City is for mature buyers while Slavia/Virtus are for shaukeen log.
Talk about unbiased view, he nails it! Been going gaga over slavia 1.5 DSG over sometime but did the maths and it'll be hard on my pocket so thinking of City ZX MT now. Honda MT is amazing compared to CVT, Honda reliability and mileage has an upper hand plus ADAS since I drive on highway mostly and I might sell the car 4 years later. My heart will surely go towards 1.5 DSG when I can afford it later, BTW Owner's manual leaked and ADAS + features is confirmed 2025 sometime. Hope they improve cameras and provide soft elements on dash.
I would say City is the most balanced product in the segment - Jack of all trades type
If you are an enthusiastic driver with major running on highways and don't worry too much about FE, I would recommend extending your budget and going for the 1.5 TSI (Slavia or Virtus)
If you have high monthly running and travel with 2/3 occupants for majority of your time then the Verna Diesel makes most sense.
Absolutely
HONDA City - for Cabin-Space & Reliability. As it has the best NA Petrol engine with good efficiency.
HYUNDAI Verna - for Best, Responsive & Efficient Diesal Engine + Best After-Sales Services
SKODA Slavia the Indian product - for 1.0 & 1.5 TSI Engine, Good Driving Dynamics & Ground Clearance. Yet to establish & prove itself in Reliability & After-Sales Services in India.
Been driving City for last 7 years and havnt had a single issue or malfunctioning till date. But considering Slavia as next car because City seems really boring and dull in terms of interior and exterior design. I hope Slavia turns out to be as reliable as City in long run
Prefer 1.5 manual
The City ivtec petrol will run for years without any problem, reliable and that petrol engine is the industry best in NA engines. Extremely spacious and very luxurious. Cult following and the name City itself is a brand.
Slavia looks like a mini Audi, absolutely best looking sedan, the tsi beats the City in mid range. Remember you are not going to rev the engine every time. And Slavia sheet metal is far far thicker than City.
I have Slavia 1.0 Style MT My experience about Slavia after 5000 Kms ,18 on highway with 11 in city
It is quite good actually !!
Have you observed any kind of rattling noise inside cabin or any ac issue ??
Who says city diesel is unreliable. Just clocked 2,60,000 kms in my 4th gen city without any issues. Easily gives 20kmpl milage (city highway combined).
Many issues are reported on team bhp & among my known too.
Dkho slavia ground clearance ki vajah s khin dikkat nhi degy. Looks ki vajah s future proof hai. Space bhot hai. Engine powerful hai torque bdia hai voi kaam ata h main.
Ambition slavia lo 14-14.5 pdegy. Mileage ke lie manual lo. Ache s chlao. City Mai 5 bande bathkr touch hoti h har jagah nd long tour k lea slavia best hai.
A big issue with the Slavia 1.5 DSG is the unreliable DQ 200 gear box which is prone to failures after a few years and the 1.0 AT is unrefined. In that case, City is the only option.
Lol, I own both these options & 1.5 NA don’t even come close with uncle type performance
I never said the City performs better than Slavia. I said that CVT is much more reliable for Indian road conditions than DSG, especially the DQ 200 one. It was so problematic that Skoda was forced to replace DQ 200 with DQ 381 in Octavia 2021 onwards.
@@SunderdeepSingh you are a noob, you dont know how to drive a VTEC car, stick to your laggy unreliable turbo
@@SunderdeepSingh and reliability ❓❓❓
Sir city hybrid vs slavia 1.5 manual which one is more reliable, and efficient?? What is your opinion??
City Hybrid for sure
Should I go Slavia 1.5 manual or 1.5 DSG
No comparison of German engineering ❤️🇩🇪
I am using VW group's tractor Deutz Fahr i heartily like it , Last 9 years no maintenance Deutz is India's first tractor which is no diesel pump
1:00 removing both hands proves that you are so confident about your car safety and respect for others
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Looking for petrol automatic, top-end model driving is mainly in the city. Need 3 passenger rear seat comfort. Prefer sedan...found City backseat better than Slavia. Safety is important. Want hassle free ownership experience. What would u suggest...
City Hybrid
@@SunderdeepSingh thanks. Running is only between 400-700 per month...recovering the cost in Hybrid version will take too long.
Brother I like the built quality of vw and I am very much impressed by the upcoming virtus but the problem is vw show room is nearly 120km from my town. Is it right choice to go to virtus?
No Bhai! Prefer any car with 6 Airbags like City, Verna, Harrier or even Creta.
Explanation is far better than auto journalist ! 👏 👏 👏
Thanks 🙏
Did you get a chance to check Virtus GT?
I happened to see one at the VW Service station yesterday and wasn’t able to understand why most people found it a modern and fresh design. On the inside, The red inlays and the black alloys made them look a little after-market.
But I believe the Virtus would be a good competition as well to the city and slavia.
Tomorrow
@@SunderdeepSingh share your experience as soon as possible
@@SunderdeepSingh also tell which one to consider buying now, had pre booked slavia 1l style auto for now
@@Cosplayinghuman 1l will give many problems bro as it is running in 3 cylender
@@Unknown-um2bm can you tell me about the problems?
Love the way u greet from inside the car
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No one can match honda in terms of engine reliability and performance as honda being the largest engine producer in the world.
And iVtec is really something, on the other hand Volkswagen and Skoda are proven german automakers for their performance oriented vehicles, now coming to performance honda city doesn't get a turbo petrol engine so it'd be wrong to compare NA engine to a turbe petrol engine.
In the real world we won't even bother about turbo vs NA so it doesn't matter, what matters is comfort or handling and you can't get both together, you'll get a better handling at the same time you are compromising on comfort and vice-versa.
If you want power then check 0-100 acceleration and bhp/torque, these stats will give an idea about the power of the vehicle.
But for comfort and handling you'll have to experience it. And as per my experience honda city is more on the comfort side and virtus is more on the handling side. And looks are subjective. Mileage we all know what to expect from these cars. at last I'd say you need to experience both cars first hand and your experience may vary from elses. It's your money be wise.
Most unbiased opinion and right direction
bro will troc and karoq will come this year?
I know you are a Slavia owner but that doesn't mean you can really change the reality...Honda city petrol on anyday gives around 13kmpl in city traffic and around 17kmpl on highways whereas the main complaint on most of the Slavia owners facebook group is mainly about low mileage of 7-8kmpl in city traffic...
Exactly what I have said in the video
those who wants milliage should not buy skoda are vw
Paaji fully confused, which to drive slavia or t roc 😀
T-Roc
T roc is an international and superior product
It's t rok bro kyun paajiii...😁
Slavia's one more usp is good gc
Acc to me slavia is the perfect competition for so called suv's
Seat Comfort .... city ka better hai
Sir meri slavia on highway 20.7 ka di recently and this was in a evening where temperature outside was 39.5 degrees Celsius so I can say that when the temperature are less it can give more so on regular journey it is giving me approx 15-17 and in city it goes as low as 8 btw I lives in Raipur chhattisgarh
And ya I have 1.0 tsi mt style
My experience about Slavia after 5000 Kms ,18 on highway with 11 in city
I have booked Slavia Style yesterday.
@@pradhanj4987 congratulations 😁
I canceled my Slavia for price hike
@@pradhanj4987 I will still suggest go for it
Paaji which is good between City petrol and Verna diesel if my monthly running is around 2000 - 2500 KM in Delhi NCR ? As you always mentioned in your videos that diesel cars have no future because of govt schemes. Please advise
I would prefer Honda City ZX please
Expecting 4K videos from your channel. Thank you
Sure
Namaskar Sirji, your reviews on sedan, On dated 9May 2022. Now please again sedans , like Skoda slava, VW virtus, Honda e-Hybrid city.. in aspects more Safety, stability, little bit drive pleasure, & Milage.. Thank you🙏
I own the City from 2 years now and drive in City with very light foot and barely using 1,2nd gears, City mileage will not go beyond 12.3 Kmpl, Highway Mileage 100-130Km/hr = 14-15Kmpl, average Highway = 15-16Kmpl, engine of City is also very noisy and not refined, far from Hyundai refined engines, now buying the Slavia, the 3 cylinder is also not refined.
I had Verna before City, Verna Petrol gave 11.5Kmpl in City, highway mostly averaged around 14.5-15.5 Kmpl
I would not recommend the Honda City latest generation, it has issues - Rattles, Steering replaced, Dampers replaced in 1.5 years and I maintain my car very well, still!!
Your car has issue bot every honda city
Does shell provide 95 octane petrol and can it be used for long term?
Not sure about shell
Bro not sure if you mean Super available in Shell... But the normal Petrol available in Shell is really good.. in Mysore for a long time it was less than a rupee expensive till 2019-20. From 2020 i switched to normal ones like HP, BP but if you don't mind the extra cost go for normal Petrol in Shell. There is no need for that Super.. you can try both of you want but i would say normal Petrol is better than HP, BP for sure and I couldn't say the difference with Super a few times I have filled in the past...
Defintely in turbo petrol anyday Slavia /virtus 💯and in naturally aspirated petrol City 💯anyaday but in Diesel ... Verna💯 anyday because Diesel engines are gem 💎 in Hyundais
But Sadly both 1.6 TDI VW🔥🚀 and 1.6 CRDI Hyundai🔥🚀 these legendary engines got discontinued
Well ig the 4th gen city v @9.99L ex showroom is the most vfm sedan out there...
City SV at 9.29L delivers even more value
Sir i am a vw owner since 2010 i had vento than ameo and tiguan now i have taigun 1.5 and tiguan 2.0 diesel. Bought taigun 3 weeks ago very good car ride and handling balance is perfect
Sir if you don’t mind can you tell me in your troc after a drive when you turn of the car you can hear a sound from the engine bay can you pls tell me why it is for i never felt that sound in my tiguan
Hi! I think there could be two reasons, first hot pipes getting cold or some kind of electronic components sound.
How much we can expect mileage from slavia in normal city drive .
10-12 km in City
Sir, can normal petrol be used only in 1L TSI?
Yes
Yes, it can be. But prefer 95 Octane if available.
@@SunderdeepSingh ok sir, thank you 😊
@@SunderdeepSingh That means we have to put different petrol in 1.5
yes but you may not be able to extract the total performance with the engine and you can also get some reliability issues as well
Hello sir which car ru driving right now 😅
I drive T-Roc, Slavia & a Polo
Paaji why skoda and vw sell limited units of their premium models in india
Like kodiaq is sold out for whole 2022
Why they are not selling more units?
Very limited assembly line for their CKD units. They definitely should increase
What i see is ur troc seats are little different than taigun and virtus
Gall baat hi alag hai TROC di
I would prefer hybrid city over 1.5 tsi
TSI anyday than an uncle dull type thing
yup ur a milliage lover but we are performence lovers
Honda City ki milage bataaiye up east area me like gaav wala area
Should be around 9-11
Mighty legendary honda city 🙏🏽🙏🏽👑👑
Which car you are driving in this video
T-Roc Doctor
Sir How much mileage you are able to get from slavia?
9-11 in the City
Salavia ground clearence best in indian road conditions
Bhai aap compare bhut achha krte ho
Very nice video.
City is city
And yes, u rightly said
Mature buyer it is city
No one wants Slavia 1.5TSI everyone wants Octavia 1.5TSI, why skoda isnt offering it to Indian buyers when the damn car is being offered all over the world? Skoda Slavia is like an unwanted child I hate it. They could have put 1.0TSI in octavia (which they do already abroad) and saved millions spend in developing slavia. I would have been totally fine with it. Now Octavia is also over priced they are trying to push it as VFM alternative to top 3 german brands 🤣🤣🤣.
This brand is making disasters and I fear for its future there are things beyond performance & plastic quality. Kushaq or slavia isnt selling 3000 unit nor Octavia is selling 200 units as expected by skoda moreover they are being out sold by VW cousin despite arriving in India 10 years earlier. Then there is also reliability issue and high maintenance cost. After all these things why would any sane person leave the lovely & the truely VFM Honda city, yes it maybe marginally slower than 1.5TSI but so what its still fun plus its faster than 1.0 tsi its real competitor in 0-100 times and also more responsive on busy roads where 1.0TSI is laggy as fuck.
Maruthi owners speaks like this. Get a life and enjoy your alto
@@PraveenKumar-zm7cz Only brainwashed people speak like this. Get a life and stop spending time in service center.
Brother urs reviews are amazing ...however one point that u missed out with SKODA AND VIRTUS is that Ground clearance shd be projected that....180 mm why this factor nt being highlighted by any vlogger.....do tell us thanx. Rest u rock....
Linea had 185 mm.
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City is fame whereas Slavia is brand..
10 to 11 mileage is of AT(1.0)
Chla ke kya dekhe chla ke dekh li to slavia hi lega admi😂
Bus idhar hi to fasaana hai
Nice informative video
Agar drive ka maza lena hai, salavia is superb, baaki sab bhool jaoge, dimaag baki cheezon ke liye ruk jayega, i m definite about this thing.
Me as a proud owner of Slavia can voice for that
Sir praising petrol city for its mileage
Meanwhile city ehev sir aap mujhe toh bhul hi gye 😄 🤣 😂
Budget is 15 lacs
sir city hybrid lelo mileage bahut accha hai
Budget is 15 lacs
Paaji Slavia outsold Honda city this month
WOW!!!
City VX ❤️
City car. ladies ki car lgti hai, hai achhi. But Skoda ki baat kus or hai
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Hello paaji......