How To Dig A Fence Post Hole - 2 Man Auger: North American Climate
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2016
- So you've removed your old fence and it's time to build a pretty new one. You've got your auger, you've measured out your holes and it's time to dig, sound simple right? Wrong! In North America we don't have nice sand to dig through, in fact under the thin layer of dirt we do get all we have is clay. This time Jeff brings in his son Nate to give him a hand but this won't be a simple task.
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Can’t believe this is the first video I stumbled upon, it literally answers my question perfectly. I’m a carpenter in Southern California and I’m going to Gatineau, QC next month to help my father in law fix his fence, I wanted to do a little research into the way that things are done in cold places since I’ve never worked in northern climates before. This pretty much answers all of my questions thanks man! 🤙
here in South Florida we have to deal with Coral Rock about a foot down so we had to use a chipping hammer to get through some spots... a lot of work... lol good job guys
Thanks for the video. I've been looking a real life example of the two man auger in clay soil. I'm in black prairie land in Texas and the soil is just like what you have. I'm doing corner posts for barbed wire fence, 4' deep by hand. Getting tired. I set with an 80 pound bag of concrete and backfill with road base gravel. I also backfill with clay but it's a PITA with clay soil. Not frost here but the dry and wet season causes the soil to expand and contract. After watching your video, I think I'll rent a CAT.
Yelling "up" and not being able to lift your own side was my favorite part lol
yup that was about as embarrassing as it gets
Easy way to lift an auger that is drilled 36” and more down in the earth - make sure auger is not running, put handles on top of shoulders, the two guys stand up from the squatting position. Yea more time. Yes safe.
For the bore depth discussion in a northern climate of say 36” frost li e, concrete use debate, etc … just flare out the bottom of the hole using a post hole digger or flare auger bit. Yes more time. Yes done correctly. It will give you a much more sturdy post and the post won’t heave because of the flared base
I'll take my hat off to you! I'm in Ga and our frost line is 10 inches. Thanks for the video! It helps me realize what I'm in for.
Only 10 inches. wow what I would give for that. Thanks Joshua
Awesome video - thanks for posting!
Such a great channel!
All sandy soil in Toronto? Last week we have our 8" auger bit stucked in wet soft clay and our hydronic digger had no way to turn either way, it stuck in ground for a week until we made a 3 feet long extension for a pipe wrench, that didn't work either, we end up using both pipe wrench with extension and hydronic digger turned together to get bit out of ground.
Also in T.O. they are not to be used in wet soil/sand/clay for that exact reason.. we have a company here in T.O. that I can't recall the name.. maybe Mr Post. If a bobcat can reach the area they will dig all post holes for 25 bucks a piece.. such a steal if you need a handful and utterly amazing if ya have 10 or so
you are so right about northern climate ,clay is so hard to dig.
Especially when it is wet. They have a lot of clay i Florida but it is so dry it is like sand. Up here it is like clay on the potters wheel.
Nothing here but sand, muck and coral rock.
There is a very important step not discussed. If you just pour cement in that hole, the frost heave will grab the sides and push it up anyway. This is called adfreezing. So simply going to below frost level will not stop the post from being heaved up. You need to pour your concrete into a sonotube to create a nice smooth surface. And for best protection, wrap a garbage bag around the sonotube. That will make it impossible for the frost heave to get a purchase on the post. I did my fence 10 years ago because the original guy just poured concrete into a hole and the posts were lifted out. Ten years after I did mine, they are as good as new.
This is wrong
@@udumbashole no it’s not
and yet a pretty good fence
Thanks Cheers!
Good for up to three feet. Impossible to dig any deeper because it is just to difficult to raise about chest level. Next time, I will use a tractor with an auger attachment.
Squat down, rest handles on shoulders if not running auger and it’s in loose dirt, lift with your legs. Works soooo easily!! Legs and core are the strongest parts of body most overlooked by flyby workout fanatics.
Yeah... I think I'm gonna hire someone to do this step
I'm in central (the Piedmont) North Carolina where just below the sod and topsoil, we're "blessed" with ample amounts of disgusting red clay. Depending on the moisture, it varies from brick-hard to gooey mushiness. Even using my compact tractor's auger digging holes can be a quite a challenge. Around these parts, between breaking the shear bolt or getting the auger stuck in the clay, digging every hole is a real adventure. Alas, there is no way I'd attempt it with the 2-man auger.
lol
Here in Toronto if a bobcat can reach the area they will predrill all your post holes for 25 bucks a hole.. if you have 10 to dig 250 is a steal of a deal
That was our problem we backed onto a forest and couldn't get the machine to the area!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I feel ya. Seems when you need it the most, can't get it where ya need it
@@dirkdiggler5525 all i got are charging 40 , whats the number of those doing for 25?
Awesome video! You do such great work. So detailed and informative. I have to pour some belled footers for an outdoor pavillion in Southeast Texas ( strong winds and very humid/moist env)
Would you recommend setting posts buried in the hround with concrete or doing footers I described above with sturdi wall or wet set brackets?
We enjoyed this video thank you very much.
That's why I will pay extra for a skid steer lol
I know it's an on old video, what aguer is that? I'm in ottawa to and I do enough holes to buy one now, I just can't find a decent one. Great video.
It's normally rented out by home depot.
Frost heave will heave the concrete too, not just the soil around it. The posts will move if not deep enough. Footers with piers filled to the top ground level is much better
Frost line in ga. Is 18” not 10”
Can confirm you can absolutely not dig a hole and go all the way down all day long in Toronto. We have the same horrible clay
The two man auger is useless here. Coral rock that can run continuous for miles. You can pound with a jackhammer or a digging bat for 1/2 hour or more per hole. There is a handy auger with a winch to lift the auger. As for me I hope I can always get to the job with a skid steer. Here in Florida fences do rot out in 20 years or less. Chain link is the best for longevity if it's industrial grade.
Anything stuck in the ground will rot. I am simply showing homeowners how to get the job done themselves to help save money.All blood sweat and tears though.
OMG
gods, I do not even think about getting awake the next day out of bed,back pain
not every back yard is created equal. sometimes you have to grunt it out.
That thing needs a tune up.
Why did you guys go so deep? Just curious as all the stuff I'm reading says to go 2-3' or so
I need to go 4' in my area. the frost gets that low .
Ah ok sweet. I'm in Southern California. My soil is like friggen rock but we don't need to go as deep...
Always adhere to local building codes. You are very lucky
What is the diameter of this auger bit ?
Thanks for all of the tips guys. What was the brand of the Auger you used?
not sure but it was a home depot rental. Cheers!
General Equipment Company: M343H Two Man Hole Digger
How long does it take to bore one hole?
Looking for advice: I have a 16 by 10 deck, with two house walls. I can not do a ledger board due to a brick veneer to the soil level. Our code (MI) says the post footings have to be at the building foundation within 5' feet. What tool can get that deep that close to the building? Everything I have found only goes to 42". oh and a one-man show.
Careful of rocks and roots.. I seen 2 dudes almost lose both arms
Its the wild west with that machine for sure. Cheers!
hmm it rained overnight here and the tool rental told me saturated ground will jam the machine and damage it, told me not to dig. Looks like conditions you guys get year round and you use the same auger. lmao I should have just rented it and gotten it done
Although I'm glad I watched and will heed your advice: 8" of clay at a time! Found clay in my backyard. Delaware here on the East coast of USA!
actually it was a really dry hot summer. Clay can hold water for a long time.
Welp, I dug all my holes with an auger. Turns out we have all clay. I should've figured since our neighboring city is called "Claymont."
Love it. It works as long as you clean as you go.
I don’t have a helper.
Me neither. I'm in Illinois. I'll help you dig your holes if you help me dig mine lol. =(
looks like a guy trying ot park a boat with his wife lol ..
Why is there clay?
Try digging a harder ground
Ok I’ll rent tow behind auger
Good luck with a shovel to dig > 52" deep? What are you talking about? You didn't even make a 24" deep hole, without using that auger, so I'm not sure why you believe someone could dig > 52" round hole with a shovel. In Philly, a lot of people just use a jack hammer with shovel blade, but our frost line is also not as deep.
you need some safety boots ....
Bit late I know but I erected fences for over 20 years and I would never wear soft shoes like those guys.
BETTER PACK A LUNCH, looks like this is gonna take a while
Jesus Christ, right? 11 fuckin minutes
That is not easy work.... you'd think that it would all be nice neat dirt not 100% clay.
This is very normal in the area where we live. The ground was also very saturated with water due to the lack of slope in the property. This made for hard drilling. In the other end of the fence line we were on a hill that had drainage and the clay dug up very nicely into small manageable chunks.
How did you like the video Charlie?
the auger rents at $100.00 a day
recently we dug 16 holes with the auger in 1 day and set all the posts as well. definitely worth the investment.
Never heard of a choke on that engine? 😂
THe darn thing wasn't working. That is the risk you take with rentals.
OH NO! You didn't mention that in the video, but good to know now. I have a good rental place by me and they take care of their equipment, but I know of others that could care less. Of course augers are hit and miss for my area. Like my home for example, only hit two spots with bedrock for my fence posts. I live on 5 acres. But my pole barn, sits on an entire sheet of bedrock 6ft thick and starts 3 inches in. So basically a nightmare and days of jackhammering.
I realize clay soil makes it harder, but you seem to be screwing the bit into the clay, then lifting the soil out with your backs. The auger, if used properly, should bring the soil up.
not when the clay is wet...by the time you get enough on the bit it jambs up. So back breaking is the only option.Cheers!
watching this made me thing maybe you we supposed to have more gas and not push down or go deaper than the auger can remove the dirt all the way to th surface. @@HomeRenoVisionDIY
Us Americans. 40 degree weather that's nothing
In Canada they use Celcuis (40C) , he probably exaggerated as it is equivalent to (104 Fahrenheit). Maybe with the humidity it feels that hot especially when you work hard.
Get a machine that is in proper working order....
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Love the emogies
Good video but your not Chuck Norris.
for sure, glad I am not that hairy. Cheers
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