Learn All 2,000 Kanji in a YEAR. WHAT. (WaniKani Review)

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  • Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
  • Learn ALL 2,000 Kanji in a year. Is it worth it? Is it dumb? (Spoiler: it's a little bit dumb, but definitely worth it). WaniKani really breaks down how your brain ACTUALLY learns and uses that against/with you in order to teach you kanji as fast as possible. Here's my opinion on WaniKani after two years.
    Timestamps:
    00:00 Introduction
    00:23 Why kanji
    01:44 How WaniKani works
    03:17 Problems with WaniKani
    04:55 WaniKani's BIGGEST flaw/best feature
    06:11 WaniKani's actual best feature
    07:41 Learn all 2,000 Kanji in a Year
    10:40 Please subscribe
    Follow me on socials for all the haps:
    myanimelist.net/profile/weeb_...
    / weeb_jail
    Useful WaniKani Resources:
    WaniKani Ultimate Guide: An ABSOLUTELY necessary resource if you end up using WaniKani. The dude who wrote this is a saint.
    community.wanikani.com/t/my-j...
    KameSame:
    I used KaniWani as recommended by the ultimate guide. I have since learned there is a better vocabulary companion, KameSame. It also has banks for common vocabulary and all of the N level vocabulary. Very good resource.
    www.kamesame.com/
    Breadstick expansion:
    (Anki flashcard deck for all missing common vocabulary). This you'll want to get into at some point, once you're nearing the end of it. You could technically do it alongside WaniKani but this might overwhelm the heck out of you, since it's literally 10,000 extra vocabulary. You've been warned.
    community.wanikani.com/t/voca...
    UPDATE: I've since realized that trying to memorize ALL of the vocabulary might not be the most productive thing. This is still probably useful to get into at some point, but once you're at the point you might consider using this you should consider just doing a lot of reading and absorbing the language. See my review of Yomichan! • How to Learn Japanese ...
    WK vs JLPT vocabulary list:
    Vocab marked level 100 are NOT taught in WaniKani. This might be useful!
    docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...

Комментарии • 195

  • @nomius10
    @nomius10 2 года назад +57

    I like your sense of humor! great vid.
    I find it a bit of a shame that you didn't mention Anki. Sure, it doesn't have all the features wanikani provides like premade mnemonics or a leveling system, but it's free and just as customizable (if not even more). Anki is a general SRS tool, meaning you can use it to learn not just japanese but any other language, or even for college modules. I know some med students use it to learn more efficiently.
    Anki is a free general SRS tool. Wanikani is a paid specific SRS tool. I began using wanikani in september and later bought a lifetime subscription 3 months after, and in hindsight I don't think I am going to get my money's worth out of it. I'd advise new learners to try Anki first before buying the lifetime subscription. I'm not saying wanikani is not worth it - I find it an excellent choice for the lazy/casual learner - but people should know there are other alternatives that might work better for them.

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +10

      Totally fair! There IS actually an anki deck for kanji damage, so it's definitely worth a look if you can't/don't want to pay for WK. And I'm actually using an anki deck as like an expansion for WK for all the missing common vocab it doesn't teach you.
      But I do think with everything that's built into WK it's definitely well worth it and by far the best option, given how much time it takes to learn a language.

    • @davidrusca2
      @davidrusca2 2 года назад +2

      Actually you have a full Anki WaniKani Deck
      (...called Wanikani Ultimate 2: Electric Boogaloo)

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +2

      yeeeeaaaaah but that doesn't totally sit right to me to use wk's full mnemonic system without actually paying for wanikani lol. if youre gonna use anki you should go with the kanjidamage package.
      also wanikani has a buttload of other features that you can't get in anki, mostly developed by the community as mentioned

    • @madmax8620
      @madmax8620 Год назад

      How do i toggle between different decks in anki??

    • @smallego8068
      @smallego8068 Год назад +1

      How much is the lifetime subscription on sale? Like 200$? You get like one proper winter jacket for that money. or maybe 3 pair of shoes. To put it short, it's basically nothing.
      I am still trying to figure out which way I should go. Either Wanikani or Kodansha Kanji Learner's Course (book) + the Kodansha Anki deck.

  • @TheSkaOreo
    @TheSkaOreo 2 года назад +63

    I think the "learn Kanji in a year" is just a buzz phrase to get people to pay money. I've been using WK for about four years and I'm only halfway through the 60 levels. Obviously those 4 years consist of me stopping and going, and I even had to go back 10 levels at one point because I took a long break and found I couldn't remember a lot of them. But I found a groove and along with immersion, have been doing pretty good at cementing Kanji.
    Basically accept that learning Japanese is a life-long endeaver and that it shouldn't matter how long it takes for you to learn. Just take your time and enjoy the ride.

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +7

      yeah everyone has their own pace, dont let the man bully you into his

    • @jbgra2566
      @jbgra2566 Год назад

      Dude, are you me? This happened to me exactly as you said it!
      Btw, how are in your learning journey after a year?
      I still have like 600 kanji left to learn but I'm confident I'll learn them by June

    • @HyoukaAnalystLore3452
      @HyoukaAnalystLore3452 7 месяцев назад +1

      It is not a buzz... My brotherdid Wanikani for a year straight, and is already level 57... It is possible, if you stay dedicated. If you go and stop, it is a YOU issue, and not Wanikani brotha.

    • @spiritsplice
      @spiritsplice 2 дня назад

      What is really is, is "learn to recognize kanji in a year", but you still won't be able to read anything.

  • @SomeUnsoberIdiot
    @SomeUnsoberIdiot 2 года назад +24

    "Some of the mnemonics are kinda dumb."
    I thought so too, until Ms. Chou came to have a word with me. She is a very nice lady that explained to me the error of my ways in a very friendly, peaceful manner.

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +5

      she explained a lot of things in a lot of ways yes

    • @SomeUnsoberIdiot
      @SomeUnsoberIdiot 2 года назад +4

      @@WeebJail but in very kind ways
      please agree
      she is very nice and not at all scary
      she is a good lady that is always good and nice and kind

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +2

      @@SomeUnsoberIdiot yes very kind much yes

    • @mikoikho
      @mikoikho 2 года назад +9

      I’m new to wk but the first time I saw her was on a street

  • @totalme302
    @totalme302 11 месяцев назад +14

    I want to get to that level in Japanese where I can almost understand all what a Japanese person is saying and to be able to read manga comfortably.
    Like, my English is not perfect, infact it is not even good, but it is at the level where I don't need to actively involve myself in learning it and it just self sustain itself with whatever I have learned till now.
    I want to reach that level of Japanese.

  • @Mobik_
    @Mobik_ 6 месяцев назад +8

    EXACTLY 365 days it took me to learn all 常用漢字 (2136). Now I need to keep reviewing every day. I did not used WaniKani.

    • @Splish_Splash
      @Splish_Splash 5 месяцев назад +1

      6 words per day is a very good pace, so yeah, it's managable. In wanikani though there are also vocab so if you need do it in a year you need to learn 20+ words/kanjis per day, so after a while reviews will be overwhelming

    • @ashtonchretien
      @ashtonchretien 3 месяца назад

      How did you do it?

    • @Splish_Splash
      @Splish_Splash 3 месяца назад +2

      @@ashtonchretien 6 kanjis per day that's all

  • @Szystedt
    @Szystedt 2 года назад +90

    Wait whaaaat? You have 9 subscribers? With this production quality? Well uhー 10, now. Great video!

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +19

      thanks friend : D maybe i will get 11 soon

    • @Crusty_the_goblin
      @Crusty_the_goblin Год назад

      ​@@WeebJail now you're almost 3.5k!

    • @warrior4hire522
      @warrior4hire522 7 месяцев назад +2

      This aged well lol

    • @LexusFox
      @LexusFox 6 месяцев назад +1

      They say that when someone puts in the effort it’s only a matter of time for success to follow!

  • @limeslice123
    @limeslice123 2 года назад +7

    Great video! I love your sense of humor and I can definitely relate to everything you said in the video.

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад

      thank you friend, that means a lot : D

  • @bigh5446
    @bigh5446 2 года назад +2

    Great vid, keep it up! Love the slight humor you add in as well. Hilarious 😅

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +1

      thank you friend : D i am glad someone appreciates my shitty jokes

  • @SuperGoldenHat
    @SuperGoldenHat 2 года назад +2

    Great Video man! I really appreciate the Breadstick Expansion that you linked in the description as well :D

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад

      yea i stopped new lessons on wk to go through that after i took the n3 test and saw a bunch of vocab i didnt know haha. (i still knew enough to get an a but there was a bunch i felt like I didn't know)

  • @QuarterRican04
    @QuarterRican04 4 месяца назад

    Great video man, you convinced me to look into Wanikani

  • @cocomelody321
    @cocomelody321 Год назад +2

    i love all the effort you put into this video!

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад +1

      thank you for noticing : D

  • @tokisuno
    @tokisuno Год назад +1

    goated channel + you're canadian so it's a bigger plus for me.
    (i've already seen this video but i always come back since i love your personality)

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад +1

      haha awesome thank you friend : D

    • @tokisuno
      @tokisuno Год назад

      @@WeebJail いえいえ<3

  • @1august12
    @1august12 2 года назад +2

    Really nice video!

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад

      thank you friend : D

  • @esteban_9049
    @esteban_9049 2 года назад +3

    I discovered this awesome channel after seeing one S;G video and after that I saw a few other videos about japanese languaje. I was a little interested in japanese a few months ago but your channel gave me motivation to learn. Now i'm learning and this video has helped me a lot! I just want to say thanks! :D (Sorry if my english is bad xd)

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +1

      yay : D glad i could help friend!! actually your english seems excellent haha, im jealous, i only speak english and some japanese but you're clearly fluent in at least 2 and learning a third xd

  • @anonykitsune
    @anonykitsune 2 года назад +1

    Yoo I love thiss you need 1 million subs!! :'DD

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад

      ayyyy thank you friend : D

  • @Gurimoe
    @Gurimoe 2 года назад +1

    I tried learning before in ~2010 (where I learned kana and forgot 90% of them again, next to like あいうえお) and once in 2015 (where I learned kana again and actually remember all of them, even if I can only read them rather than writing them);
    I got wanikani in 2018 but never actually used it, and now have been depressed (for sort of unrelated reasons) for a few weeks/months; but for some reason, the only thing on my mind is actually getting off my ass and learning japanese this time (especially since the next ~2 years should be fairly easy-going regarding my work-load and other studies);
    Thanks a lot for the video, it was a really comforting watch!

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +1

      ayyy glad i could help friend : D its always good to keep busy

  • @Tito151
    @Tito151 2 года назад +5

    Great analysis. I feel you on the obscure mnemonic stories. Matsuri/Matt's Urine isn't so bad because if you're in Japan for at least a 2 week period, you're going to experience the word first hand somehow (well, maybe not right now so much...). The ones that kill me are the ones that are so obscure that I have troubles trying to remember the link to begin with. Maybe something like 退く where it makes sense when I see the words, but somehow I can't make that bridge.
    I feel like it would be really helpful if they showed the kanji in a short sentence which would be more of a real world application and get context. (Is there an WK add-on for that?)
    Oh... and the community forums... Maybe a lot of them are stuck in the sunk cost or bandwagon fallacy, but it's so hard to have a meaningful conversation about WK feedback without being derided. I recently even got this through WK's email too which really threw me off.
    Anyways, great job with the video! Looking forward to more.

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +1

      Thank you for the feedback friend : D you can always look words up on jisho, they often have good context sentences

  • @user-ph8tz9zi3o
    @user-ph8tz9zi3o Год назад +5

    I’m glad other people think wanikani is worth it - I’m only around level 10, but it keeps me more consistent than any other app. Even if there are some cheaper methods, convenience matters in long term goals like language learning. (Especially with ADHD)

    • @madd_vibe
      @madd_vibe 10 месяцев назад

      I have ADHD and have been searching for an effective learning website for AGES because all the ones I see lose my interest haha but so far I've been loving WaniKani - would you say it's been worth it so far?

  • @radim971
    @radim971 2 года назад +2

    Normally I never comment but you deserve it. Great and funny video

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад

      ayy thank you friend : D i appreciate you

  • @BQD_Central
    @BQD_Central Год назад

    I followed your recommendation and am now in the free-zone of Wanikani.
    My biggest problem is not so much the kanjis in and of themselves, but in the reading of them, so it is still really enjoyable to start of at level 1 and 2.
    I pretty much made up my mind in buying a subscription now, but I still want to see how long it will take me to end up with level 4.
    I've been on the "learn japanese" thing for about 2 years now so I'm confident that the money isn't really wasted.
    So yeah, thank you for your recommendation, and the warning ahed. I'm pretty sure I will feel the same burnout sooner or later.

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад

      ayy glad to hear friend : D

  • @marcelijankowski9593
    @marcelijankowski9593 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks!
    Bought it!

  • @TheFakePlayerGame
    @TheFakePlayerGame 6 месяцев назад +2

    If I can learn both hiragana and katakana enough to be able to read them with almost no problem in a week, I don’t think I need an entire year to learn 2000 kanji. But haha jokes on you I am not learning kanji first I’m learning words first then the kanji for them since in my world kanji doesn’t have pronunciations but words do! Kanji represent words, words are already decided separately anyways, then we have a kanji/a combination of kanji to represent the words and those are what I need to learn!

    • @user-dg2wd7oj5y
      @user-dg2wd7oj5y 14 часов назад +1

      and how’s your progress?

    • @TheFakePlayerGame
      @TheFakePlayerGame 12 часов назад

      @@user-dg2wd7oj5y decent, I’m mostly studying words and getting used to the language more than actually learning new things. I like to recognise things I learn from things I’ve heard before because it’s satisfies me that I feel real progression.

  • @dacracking5768
    @dacracking5768 Год назад

    15 seconds in and i already love your channle

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад

      ayyyyy i appreciate your patronage friend : D

  • @TiimKemp
    @TiimKemp 2 года назад +4

    I'd be really interested to hear what else you've done to suppliment Wanikani. Also timelines moving towards your proficiency in Japanese! When could you first read a random sentence? How many hours a day etc! Just a thought!
    Good Vid!

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +2

      not sure about reading a random sentence, but one big milestone i noticed was after i was studying for almost a year and a half and had been in japan for 2 or 3 months, i thought one of the commercials in the station was in english, but then i realized it was in japanese and i'd actually just understood it without paying attention at all haha. i studied like probably at least 2 hours a day for the first year or so, and in japan have been attending full-time language school.

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +1

      i've been using bunpro which is kind of like wanikani, and is GREAT because you can connect your wk account so it doesn't automatically give you furigana for kanji you've learned. i may make a review on this as well at some point because it is FANTASTIC.
      the first thing i started out with was japanesepod101, but i found that to get less useful as it moved on to more advanced stuff and started introducing lots of random new vocabulary and grammar points at the same time and so it made it kind of pointless unless you studied what it was teaching before listening to it, which i guess is kind of useful but i switched to a more direct study haha.
      i also took beginner japanese 1 and 2 at university before coming to japan so that was probably helpful as well for going through the basics. i think school only goes so far though and if you're doing it the right way it's better to study alone as long as you get regular input from japanese speakers, or i guess from anime or drama and stuff. but i couldn't just come and live here long-term without a visa, so. haha

    • @TiimKemp
      @TiimKemp 2 года назад +1

      @@WeebJail An amazing reply mate! Thanks for taking the time. I'd love a review of Bunpro!

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +1

      @@TiimKemp not sure if you seen it but i DO have a review of bunpro up now : D haha

    • @TiimKemp
      @TiimKemp 2 года назад +1

      @@WeebJailI did and it was great! You've convinced my partner and I to move over to Bunpro to compliment our Wanikani stuff! Thanks Weeb Jail! :)

  • @le.hazmel
    @le.hazmel 2 года назад +3

    This so underrated xD

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад

      thank you friend that is big praise : D

  • @Starstreak170
    @Starstreak170 8 месяцев назад +1

    Did you know any Cantonese from your family? The hanzi knowledge would definitely be a big advantage for learning kanji.

  • @JJ_38624
    @JJ_38624 3 месяца назад +1

    Do you still recommend it as the number 1 after 2 years? I feel like I wont lose motivation as fast with a structured website like this than having to read books and find a schedule for yourself. Also do you have new wanikani extensions you would recommend now?

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  3 месяца назад +1

      i do! i think i have updated extensions in thr description

  • @BQD_Central
    @BQD_Central Год назад

    6 months later and I hit the same wall as you did, almost at the exact same level.
    Well life happened and free time got really sparse, so it is really exhausting to do hundreds of reviews.
    I keep it up, trying to get the lessons pile down ( beside the reviews)

    • @masamangtao6417
      @masamangtao6417 Год назад

      How long does it take to do hundred of reviews in WK? (Like if you're going at that fastest pace. Like how much max time per day are we talking during those busy times?)

  • @gyroninjamodder
    @gyroninjamodder 2 года назад +6

    6:50 No offense to the creator of KaniWani, but KameSame is much better and offers more features like adding words from JLPT vocabulary lists or from copy and pasting text entries. KaniWani also has trouble with how it handles synonyms compared to KameSame which will either ask you to try again (and show you a list of your previous close guesses) or will mark it as correct if that words is deeper in your review pile.

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +1

      ooh yeah kaniwani is like super off on synonymns haha, i will look more into it : D my progress in wk is paused to learn more vocab so i may try to resume from ks instead if i can

  • @fa0179
    @fa0179 5 месяцев назад +1

    how did you manage to stay in Japan long term or are you back in Canada?

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  5 месяцев назад +2

      studied for a year, now working

  • @gc3k
    @gc3k 6 месяцев назад +1

    I learned 2000 kanji in one year. I didn't pay for any resource (or steal a paid resource-- just making the point that it's not necessary to spend your money). I just used the internet, and I did live in Japan at the time. Let go of your fears, ignore any videos that claim you don't need to learn kanji, and study and review aggressively. Then consume native material for retention. Writing is only a fraction of learning Japanese, so you really shouldn't hesitate to learn kanji

  • @alicel995
    @alicel995 2 года назад +2

    Damn, I came here to tell myself not to spend money on WaniKani... WHat do I do now?
    ALso, love your personality in this video! You seem great :)

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад

      thank you friend : D personally i think learning is the best thing you could spend money on, other than you know, rent and stuff

    • @alicel995
      @alicel995 2 года назад

      @@WeebJail I really shouldn't talk about how I spent my money. Learning is probably much better than 80€ on my nails.. I guess what I'm afraid of is spending money on something and then feel bad if I don't use that thing enough.. like my gym membership 😅😅

  • @s.l.r.9407
    @s.l.r.9407 Год назад +1

    Man I love your humor, I'm subscribing!

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад +1

      thank you i appreciate you friend : D

  • @Retog
    @Retog 2 года назад +5

    It takes an entire year with wanikani? Wow, don’t pay money for that. Just self-study through immersion-learning. It’s much faster and it’s free

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +5

      uhhhhhhhhhhhhh yea totally just learn 2,000 kanji in under a year with immersion learning thats totally realistic

    • @Retog
      @Retog 2 года назад +1

      @@WeebJail In the AJATT community, most of us do it in 3-6 months. Make Anki cards (15-30 a day depending on the individual) and read a lot. You’ll learn in no time.

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +4

      @Sloop John B yea if you skip learning vocabulary context and readings and just strictly learn the meaning you could but that seems kind of pointless. unless youre talking about literally 24/7 study which, uh, sure but most people have jobs

    • @d0xter742
      @d0xter742 2 года назад +1

      @@WeebJail You titled this video "Learn All 2,000 Kanji in a YEAR", not learn all 2,000 kanji plus a bunch of vocab. You can easily do this in half the time. Many people do it in a quarter.
      I wouldn't jump so quickly to advertise Wanikani when there are so many free options. Have you tried many others?
      IIRC the current most popular AJATT method is to learn the 常用漢字 in isolation with RTK or RRTK while simultaneously immersing. Granted, this is a bit more of a time sink than Wanikani. Wanikani is great for those who want to take their time with the language and are in no rush. (I'm not too familiar with the WK user addons, I never used these myself. Maybe you could speed it up but the addition of radicals and vocabulary really slows things down)
      I'm personally of the stance that isolated kanjis and radicals are of little use if you're not interested in handwriting. I think the best way to learn is through immersion with i+1 sentence mining.
      Idk, your comment just came off as a bit immature. You're a small channel so I totally understand but you should be a bit more open to feedback. There is a lot out there in the lanugage learning community and Wanikani is just the tip of the iceberg.
      Ok um TLDR; Wanikani is expensive, there are better (and if you're interested, faster) options for free if you are able to put in a little effort.

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +5

      @d0xter my comment is immature because i said most people have jobs and cant study 24/7 lol? or the part where i said it's pretty pointless to be learning kanji without vocabulary, which is... true?
      sure immersing can be faster but for the vast majority of people this is the way to go. if you watched the video i did point out kanjidamage as a free option, i realize i forgot to mention theres an anki deck and shit for it, that's why i pinned the comment on anki, but it's not like i hadn't considered other options lmao
      also uh if you learn isolated kanji you can pick up and understand new words basically instantly which seems important for the immersion route, just saying

  • @stefanhansen5882
    @stefanhansen5882 Год назад

    I'm super curious about something. The book you are showing (or any other book) contains both kanji and kana, right? If so, what is the ratio between kanji and kana in a typical Japanese book? Thanks!

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад +1

      uh really depends on what level the book is

    • @stefanhansen5882
      @stefanhansen5882 Год назад

      @@WeebJail I'm curious about "normal" books. Not books written from language learners or children. More or less? Is it half of the characters on a page which are kanji, or is it closer to 10, 20, 30, 70, 80 or 90 %?

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад

      i guess like 50% lol, less for manga and light novels more for actual novels, it really depends on the level

    • @stefanhansen5882
      @stefanhansen5882 Год назад

      @@WeebJail Alright. Thanks.

  • @YouNeverKnowWhoIsWatching
    @YouNeverKnowWhoIsWatching 2 года назад +1

    7:34 my upcoming kanji addiction... now that's something to look forward to!😳

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад

      i'm semi-serious haha. wk put a lot of thought into how people learn--why have to get motivated when you can exploit the brain's addictive tendencies? learning something new is all about creating new habits and this is arguably the best way to go about doing that haha

  • @iclicklike3397
    @iclicklike3397 9 месяцев назад +1

    How much benefit of learning the kanji actually give? Few years back I was learning some kanji before with memorizing the onyomi and kanyomi readings, but now learning the language different way. And it seems like it is way more efficient just knowing basic concept of the kanji and which words use it and then learning the full word translated. With enough repeated exposure of the actual word in a sentence you just remember instantly what the word is by looking at it. Just like you can see the English word without having to actually read it. All without having a clue if its onyomi or kunyomi.

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  9 месяцев назад +2

      sure but knowing the actual kanji means you're able to learn new words way faster. there's no reason to prioritize memorizing individual words because learning the kanji takes the exact same amount of effort

    • @Matias-zh3dp
      @Matias-zh3dp 6 месяцев назад

      @@WeebJail No. Even if you find a new word with a kanji you learned by isolation, you still have to look up its reading in that word.
      Learning Kanji through vocabulary is killing two birds in one shot. Studying Kanji in isolation is a waste of time unless you want to learn to write japanese by hand (in 2024? lol).

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  6 месяцев назад

      @@Matias-zh3dp right you learn the vocab with the kanji, but you study the kanji first lol. would you rather a) learn 2000 things, or b) learn 20000 words? which one do you think is faster

    • @Matias-zh3dp
      @Matias-zh3dp 6 месяцев назад

      @@WeebJail Learning the words is better because, as i said, its more optimal since you are learning vocabulary and kanji at the same time, and lets you immerse faster in the language.
      Dont understand what you mean by "but you study the kanji first". With this method you arent studying any isolated kanji.

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  6 месяцев назад

      @@Matias-zh3dp you're not hearing me. when you know the kanji, you basically learn every new word you come across instantly. obviously there's some nuance to learn, but again this is informed by the meaning of the kanji.
      this would be like trying to learn the english word airport without knowing what the word air means. like yeah you could learn airport first but then you're basically learning three things when you only had to learn two.
      also, i kind of missed this but the part where you said you have to look up the reading tells me you're not super literate. if you know the readings of the kanji, and you know how words work, you know the reading. you DON'T have to look it up. there's some exceptions, but 95% of the time i know. how to read new words without looking them up

  • @Leonardo-Lenguaje
    @Leonardo-Lenguaje Год назад +1

    I have to check you on one thing--I don't understand why so many people keep saying "I mastered Hiragana/Katakana in

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад +2

      it took me about 2 hours until i could identify each character basically right away for each set of kana. i think this is a good benchmark for learning.
      for one, everything past this is extremely vague, we all have different definitions of fluency and speed of reading. two, you basically don't use only kana for anything in actual japanese so even if we had any real any marks of fluency for kana beyond this it's completely meaningless.
      anyway the point of me including this isn't to be like 'oh wow look at me i did it so fast' it's to explain why mnemonics are so important. if you were just writing them out like how you learn in school it would take you like a week to get to this level of familiarity.
      i stand by that i think learning to write isn't really necessary, but there's another criticism i felt about wk after recording this video. there's a lot about radicals and patterns that it COULD teach you, but doesn't. like one day i just randomly thought wait a second why does every body part use the 月 radical and then i looked it up and facepalmed pretty hard for not realizing this earlier. of course this isn't exactly relevant to the writing/reading thing but this kind of thing is something everyone should learn

    • @Leonardo-Lenguaje
      @Leonardo-Lenguaje Год назад

      @@WeebJail I'll agree with you on the importance of learning to write--I don't actually think most learners benefit from strictly learning to write Kanji per se. I think it's moreso useful as a learning tool--i.e. writing out Kanji via an app kind of helps with your recognition. I had a few Kanji that I (for the life of me) could never differentiate, b/c they'd differ in like 1 or 2 radicals. After writing them, it helped. However, to add to your point--you can probably get to this same result just with mnemonics that simply name the radicals. I was adding the comment about exploring writing for those who still struggle to differentiate Kanji when just working with mnuemonics (as I have).
      Also, on the note of the intent behind what I meant when I pointed out the one criticism, It's not so much a thing against you as it was a frustration I had in general. tldr; I wish one video (even a single one) that I've run into emphasized the importance of practicing Kana and working that into your early development plans. For instance, there are Anki decks that cover this and probably apps that help (and no one really mentions this). Though I don't recommend mastering writing Kanji for most people, I'd probably recommend mastering writing Kana for everyone, even if you have no intention of really ever writing it--because you never know.
      When I started out, I saw this everywhere: "you can get pretty familiar with all the Kana in like a day". However, in practice, I noticed that this didn't get your familiarity with them to any point that was super useful (e.g., I realized this once when trying to read the japanese subtitles for a show at speed--it was a harsh wake-up call that your kana fluidity has to be quite high in practice). I also kind of got familiar with the Kana in like a day or two in the beginning, but when it came down to recognizing them for reading, etc, it just wasn't coming together for me--there were times when it would take me like several seconds to read a single kana. It wasn't until I started doing daily repetitions of refreshing the Kana that I actually got to a place where I could actually recognize them in meaningful ways (especially with katakana). You can get here just by sheer volume of reading natural text, but I believe that Kana is more efficiently learned out of context and with short character chunks (e.g. create flashcards with single characters + readings, and create another deck with whole words to get used to quickly identifying groups of kana that tend to appear together). You kind of have to eventually get to a place where you can immediately identify Kana in less than a second and also work on chunking patterns together. I'd also argue that learning to read katakana at speed is probably also more important than Hiragana, b/c I notice that the length of words using katakana tend to be longer, b/c hiragana is mostly reserved for simple verbs, onomotopia, radicals, and okurigana, so you seldom have to be able to churn through 6-hiragana characters in a contiguous string.
      Also, as an aside, I hope my original message didn't come across as rude. I think the video is great and I definitely took some good information away from it. I was moreso just venting that one frustration that almost no one tells you early on that you should probably apply more time than you'd think into mastering the kana. I didn't realize how fast I had gotten at reading until I started taking a class with others and realized how much the effort has paid off--reading kana and simple Kanji early on is really rough haha. I only started doing this weird backwards style of learning b/c of some advice I gleaned from some videos--learning the grammar, though challenging will technically take less time than getting through all the kanji, so you should probably start that immediately so that as you start pushing through grammar and more complex content, the kanji familiarity doesn't become a huge impediment to forward progress. I've been going with this as of late (for better or for worse, lol). So the odd thing right now is that, though I'm still technically at the N5 level, I probably have a Kanji familiarity of someone at the N2-N3 level (I know somewhere between 800-1000 Kanji). There's definitely some tradeoffs in this.
      I've moreso done this, b/c I've been applying more of my time into learning a different language and focusing primarily on Kanji right now kind of works out b/c it makes lesson planning for me simple--just spend X minutes per day in Kanji reading/recognition and a smaller period of time in grammar. Then the rest of my time is in the other language. Once I ramp down on the other language, I can ramp up my grammar in Japanese.

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад +1

      @@Leonardo-Lenguaje thing is, you don't really need to practice kana once you get down basic familiarity with them, this just comes up by the nature of studying japanese, if you're learning anything you're using kana lol

  • @dog5593
    @dog5593 2 года назад +1

    btw kanji damage has an anki(srs app) deck. tho you'll have to download anki separately

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +1

      oh yea its definitely worth checking out if you cant or dont want to pay for wk, absolutely the next best option

  • @sanguineel
    @sanguineel 7 месяцев назад +1

    You should try stand-up comedy (if you haven't already.) Good video

    • @mandoloriansoju3841
      @mandoloriansoju3841 Месяц назад

      Fuck no, it was negative charisma throughout the whole video 😂😂😂 very informative though

  • @shotakonkin2047
    @shotakonkin2047 2 года назад +5

    I use a second Japanese learning app to give radicals Japanese names because I feel like that would cement the Japanese language better in your head.
    I use that custom menomonic feature for that reason, if there's a Japanese word for that radical or a Japanese word that would be easier to memorize then that's what I'll use; basically using Japanese synonyms for that word in many cases.

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад

      same, ill often remember a similar japanese word i've already learned, i don't know why they don't actually use previously taught words in their system

  • @JimNH777
    @JimNH777 Год назад

    I started using it because I was playing dumb games on my phone anyway - so I might as well play something useful.
    On its own it's probably not the way to learn language, just kanji. But if you do speaking lessons on its own, learn basic conversations and do WaniKani as a separate thing it works. Especially as already by 3rd level they start to overlap (jyozu, itsu, konichiwa, months instead of learning words for underwater and katana ;) ).

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад +3

      yea this is ONLY for learning kanji. learning a lot of vocab is a neat side benefit but this isn't gonna teach you japanese on its own haha

  • @hirata2121
    @hirata2121 2 года назад +1

    WOW, I swore that this channel had at least thousands of subscribers
    Well, let's do it :D

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад

      yay lets do it : D

  • @faithfullilac
    @faithfullilac 6 месяцев назад

    i think the mnemonics are kinda weird but they help me remember things sometimes

  • @chengxiaoshi3461
    @chengxiaoshi3461 6 месяцев назад +1

    Did you learn the onyomi and konyomi pronounciation or just the meaning?

  • @RoxasStrife
    @RoxasStrife 2 года назад +2

    totally relate to the the "yet I play league of legends" lmao

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад

      im a G A M E R bigsad

  • @sparkymularkey6970
    @sparkymularkey6970 8 месяцев назад

    I so wish I could go back in time to learn my mother's native language while I was young. 😭 Learning anything as an adult is always so much harder.

  • @koyuki6113
    @koyuki6113 Год назад

    I’m going to try and do this, I’ll let you know how it goes 😎

    • @koyuki6113
      @koyuki6113 Год назад

      Edit: in a year I mean

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад

      lol ok keep me posted

    • @koyuki6113
      @koyuki6113 Год назад

      @@WeebJail Hi, I'm back, I got 500 kanji down almost or atleast it could be more already and I've got to 2300 vocab down.
      I dropped wanikani cuz I got a more efficient method down. so that's my update haha

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад

      what's your new method lol

    • @koyuki6113
      @koyuki6113 Год назад

      @@WeebJail Well, I watch anime (-.- ;) but uh, I use anki in a special way and use my episodes as the real anki and also watch the episodes before hand in english so that they're more understandable. It's quite hard to explain in youtube comments

  • @CCSleep_
    @CCSleep_ 2 года назад +1

    Only 85 subscribers? Even 1000 is too less for this guy. Hope you blow up!

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад

      本当? : D thank you friend that means a lot

    • @o0...957
      @o0...957 2 года назад +1

      Wow it's 1.4K now

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад

      ayy

    • @CCSleep_
      @CCSleep_ 2 года назад +1

      @@WeebJail should i be proud since i sub this guy 10 months ago

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +1

      hahaha ty friend maybe one day i will even hit 5k subs

  • @Goku17yen
    @Goku17yen Год назад +1

    Great vid, I love you sense of humor lol!
    What’s the song for the intro? It sounds like ヒロノブ影山! He has such a unique voice

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад

      thank you friend : D you are SPOT on its the theme from the ufo yakisoban movie

  • @onlyfriendyeah
    @onlyfriendyeah 2 года назад +4

    humour edge is great but doesn't get in the way of the info, great mix subbed instantly

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +1

      yay thank you friend : D

  • @user-qb4ke6gm5b
    @user-qb4ke6gm5b 2 года назад +1

    HIIIII omfg and zelda noise

  • @Bloodworia
    @Bloodworia 24 дня назад

    My man is hiding his bald head.

  • @MaryAnnSweetAngel
    @MaryAnnSweetAngel 2 года назад +1

    Since i watch so much anime I already know the word for festival or matsuri haha so i dont need to remember 'matts urine' XD

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад

      who needs studying when you have anime amirite :'D

  • @TheRealNirvana
    @TheRealNirvana Год назад

    GREATTTT CHANNNEL!!!

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад

      tell your friends : D

    • @TheRealNirvana
      @TheRealNirvana Год назад

      @@WeebJail haha will do. All of them already know kanji tho lol

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад

      i mean i do other videos lol : D

  • @insekki
    @insekki Год назад +1

    Been using wankikani for a while. It’s really useful

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад +1

      ayyyyy good to hear : D

  • @theglitchmindset2256
    @theglitchmindset2256 Год назад

    Sees the Naruto run and hears the anime music…ahh my people…I am home

  • @mafumofu986
    @mafumofu986 Год назад

    Got to 25 in a year

  • @spiritsplice
    @spiritsplice 2 дня назад

    >I "know" all 2000 kanji
    >I still can't read anything

  • @jamalsdurag599
    @jamalsdurag599 Месяц назад +1

    I don’t see the point in kanji study. Just because you know every pronunciation doesn’t mean you will be able to know which one to use. Like how much Japanese could you actually accurately read and understand after doing the entire Wani Kani course.

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Месяц назад +1

      almost all of a newspaper
      you study vocab with the kanji bro

  • @richardhartung1576
    @richardhartung1576 2 года назад +1

    rly? Kanji only has 2k ? so unfair :D

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +1

      well 2k main kanji

  • @jackbanta8709
    @jackbanta8709 7 месяцев назад +1

    More like in 1.5 years if you go at a good pace or 2-2.5 years realistically. Cool video.

  • @KlaasDeforche
    @KlaasDeforche 2 месяца назад

    Oh nooo. If only you had done duolingo, you would have known the word 現金 😄

  • @jstmakenoise
    @jstmakenoise Год назад

    Maplestory!!!

  • @Ok.Ok_Robot
    @Ok.Ok_Robot 4 месяца назад

    Yoo

  • @Premislao89
    @Premislao89 Год назад

    All 2k kanji? ...

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад +1

      referring basically to the joyo kanji, wk is almost all of them

    • @Premislao89
      @Premislao89 Год назад

      @@WeebJail Then why not use the full name of whatever group of 2k kanji you want to use?

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  Год назад

      because if you dont know what it is it'll just confuse you and if you do know what it is you should know exactly what im talking about, and if you learn this many kanji youll learn what im talking about anyway

    • @Premislao89
      @Premislao89 Год назад

      @@WeebJail still a clickbait :/

  • @matthewdavis9437
    @matthewdavis9437 2 месяца назад

    Good ad. Cringe Maplestory bg music 😂

  • @vali69
    @vali69 2 года назад +1

    Why do you keep saying all 2000 kanji? Are you referring to all the ones taught in japanese schools or what?

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +7

      in japan they have a list of about 2000 main kanji called the joyo kanji. wanikani teaches you most of these kanji.

    • @vali69
      @vali69 2 года назад

      @@WeebJail I know. But they're not "all the kanji". You're insinuating that there are only 2000 kanji which is cringe for how wrong it is.

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +3

      @@vali69 "cringe" lol this is a list of the kanji you need to learn put out by the government of japan

    • @vali69
      @vali69 2 года назад

      @@WeebJail yeah, it's cringe talk like you only need to know these 2000 kanji lmfao

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад +7

      @@vali69 ok ill go tell the prime minister that his country is cringe, thanks weeb

  • @gmsmithucdavisedu
    @gmsmithucdavisedu 2 года назад +2

    Nice video. You're a great cheerleader. Useful links. too.
    The one thing that bothers me about WK is that it has its own pet names for some of the radicals. This is the second time I'm studying Japanese - I studied in the late 昭和, then stopped, and forgot everything. Back then, I got my radical nicknames from Nelson's dictionary. For instance, WK calls 弓 'beggar', whereas other sources call it 'bow', which makes sense, because you 引くa bow to shoot it; 也 doesn't really seem to be 'alligator' (and isn't a part of 鰐), but a classical form of です; 幺 is a short thread, as opposed to long thread or silk, 糸, but certainly not 'poop' (...looks like the poop emoji or something!?); and 'triceratops', really? ... how about 'small 小' or something to show where it came from and what meaning it might impart?
    Apart from that, WK is great. The best thing about it, for me anyway, is that it is automatically structured to present and review what I need. Progress is built in. I don't have to keep track of where I am in a new vocab list, or what I might have forgotten from my review list. I don't even have to keep lists (not counting my Anki decks). So, the mechanics of studying are mindless and I can focus on the stuff I'm trying to learn. I just do what the crabgator tells me to do.

    • @WeebJail
      @WeebJail  2 года назад

      i actually like their radicals. i think the reason they change it is because a lot of them are similar. like according to the traditional radical system there's something like 5 radicals for 'person'
      if you studied it before i see how it's an issue but for the rest of us it's great haha

    • @gmsmithucdavisedu
      @gmsmithucdavisedu 2 года назад +1

      @@WeebJail I know. You are right.
      Five radicals for 'person'? I also note that here at least five ways to read 人: ジン, ニン, ひと, -り, -と, unless you include names, then add じ, と, ね, ひこ and ふみ. "The language of the infinite". I suppose I should consider any attempt to make it a little less infinite (i.e., simpler to learn) to be a benefit.
      I was just thinking that I wanted to learn the 'real' names of the radicals. But, I also realize that even Nelson called the ones I learned 'nicknames', and the true names are in Japanese.
      Have fun!