Nice presentation! Thanks for the pro tips about recording button and overdub/replace! Those would be hard lessons to learn and you've saved some frustration here!
Thank you so much for recording this, I've looked for a tracking tutorial on MODX for hours over weeks, until I found yours. Only one that's clear and comprehensive. Well done!!
Out of all the videos out there on tracking on the Montage/MODX yours was only one that helped me record a multitrack 8bar loop that's all I needed! Thanks bro.
Awesome video!! I’ve watched several videos on this topic and you are by far the best I’ve seen. You got right to the basics and made it easy to understand. Thank you!!
I recently updated my MODX8 to v2.0. I am excited to use the new Pattern Sequencer. At first it appeared quite complex to get used to using. Your clearly explained instructions made it easy to follow and learn, as I just did my first multi-track recorded loop. I enjoy your presentation style too. Much thanks again!
Agreed but i hate the fact that you cant add sounds while the track is playing. If they added the ability to add sounds and overdub to trigger recording when you start playing it would make these keyboards absolute monsters. Especially in a live situation
Good stuff man. The lack of traditional sequencer is a daily annoyance and I'm wondering how to get round this. Do you know if I can use a sequencer like the Beatstep Pro to feed MIDI into the Montage, say a complex drum part? Also, in order to edit MIDI data stored on the MODX, do I manually have to export it to a PC via USB stick, or can I mount the Montage as a discoverable drive on the PC and live-edit the MIDI files that way, without the need for transfer? Thanks in advance.
I haven't really tried it with external sequencers but it should work, you can set it up to be triggered via MIDI, don't think there is any live MIDI editing but may be something in place with the plugin/transfer app. I honestly never really used it in that way as I tend to work with audio mostly so I just record sounds out of my synths/boards into the MPC, Maschine, or whatever I'm using.
I've been watching your videos and they are really nice. Simple and to the point. Agree - that the split screen video is nice. Do you have a video, or can you make one up that shows how to set up a custom drum arpeggio? Thank you for doing these!
Thanks for watching, I appreciate it. Unfortunately, I no longer have these synths, they were on loan from Yamaha. If I end up getting the Montage in again will see what I can find out about that.
Great lesson, clear and understandable. Helped me better understand MODX workflow. Question, upon first recording of a compositional loop, how should I delete the first attempt if unsatisfied. 1st attempt was 3 min and I need to redo the whole thing but shorter. So overdub leaves a portion.
Thanks for watching! I no longer have this keyboard and it has been a while since I tried it. If I recall I thought there was a delete or undo option within the sequencer.
Most likely record the audio into your daw, there is probably an export function but I haven't used one of these in years so I don't recall. I generally just record my audio directly in realtime to whatever I'm using (daw, sampler, etc)
Thanks, this is exactly what i was looking for , I could not figure out the recording, overdubbing, and undo on my own. I saw a loop demo first and that confused me when I just wanted to record straight. Nice demo tune also. One other thing, when I hit record on my modx , the display is nothing like that and I don't even see an undo button. ??
what's Saint Joe.........I be glad when you cover the new firmware MPC X 2.6 update and cover everything, most guys on youtube just covered step and grid automation, but they didn't cover the other features. I hope you cover everything because you expalin things better than the other MPC youtuber except for Andy Mac, AND BK Banga, LOL just playing all 3 of you guys are on the same level teaching hardware, nothing agaisnt the other guys tho......you are one of the best.....
Thanks for the support fam! I think Akai already did a good job covering the updates honestly, their official videos show all of what's new and how it works in a few pretty quick videos. Don't know if I'll be doing anything on the 2.6 specifically.
I have been creating my own music for the last year and making a living from it. Not a huge amount of money "Yet" however just recently I have bought the Modx plus and feel frustrated having to learn how this thing works. It has massive capabilities along with a huge learning curve to bang out some amazing tunes and found SoundsAndGear. Thankyou for this video. Iv'e spent a good 2 hours following your instructions and although I am not even close to where I want to be the frustrating thing is having to read the instruction manual and following video's like this. Am I the only one that hates reading Manuals? But I need to so I will be able to create what I want to do. My first year as a solo artist creating music which was just for fun, someone sent me some money via Pay Pal which confused me, then another guy sent me some money and another and so on. I thought my music was nothing special although I was told I have a very creative mind even strange adding things into the Chorus or lead others would never dream off. I had 72,000 Downloads with just 9 instrumentals. 56,752 Views 72,639 Downloads in 1 year I gave away free for You Tubers to use in their video's. A lot of my music can be found with different companies online claiming it as their own and selling it which I have witnessed myself "All good though" However I have come to a complete stop making music since buying this MODX cuz I don't know how to work the ******* thing. You have said: Quote: Thanks for watching! Glad this video helped. I no longer have a Montage in my setup however you got a new sub from me as this has been the best follow along video I have watched. Other You Tube videos of the same MODX showing us. Look you got some strings, piano, trumpet, drums are a pointless watch that teach us nothing. This video I did learn something. Thanks mate. The first instrumental I knock out I'll send it to you for your thoughts. Once Again a massive thankyou from the UK for the vid.
Thanks for the video. had my montage 2 days. Is there any way to have the recorded instruments follow chord changes if you wanna play along to it? I guess you could almost say arranger style. I know the Montage has some preset drum patterns with base backgrounds which you can do this with. Just struggling to find any instructions how to do this to create my own drum pattern and base patterns which i can play along to. Or am i asking too much of the Montage and should of stuck to an Arranger Keyboard. Thanks
Brilliant video.. thanks, im new to my ModX8 but.. i read that using the hardware sequencer on the ModX (os.252) or Montage (os.3) you only have access to the first 8 tracks, to get the 16 tracks, you need to use a outboard Midi Sequencer or connect to a DAW.. is that right?
Hi there , thanx for the video. Its a great video to start. But I m stuck with one problem. How do i delete a particular track i recorded in a song . Everytime i select the track and set the record to replace. All the tracks get replaced.TQ
I learned quite a few things from that video thank you very much! so essentially you have 16 tracks on the looper/song recorder but can only use up to 8 sounds (single part performances) or even less if you use multi-parts? that kinda sucks, because If I wanna use a couple of sounds that have 4 parts each (like a piano+ep+string+bell layered) I'm deeply limited to only 4 more :/
Thanks for watching! Yeah, you have 16 sounds/tracks. So you can have up to 16 sounds (parts). The 8 part limit is for key splits and layers, you can have more than 8 parts in the performance though, up to 16 :)
m excited for the modx and plan to get one. But that sequencer seems more cumbersome and restirictive than the motif xf sequencer that I'm used to. Will xf users make an easy transition to montage wrt the sequencer?
They recently updated the sequencer, checkout my recent video where I show how it compares to the new Fantom. Overall, it isn't exactly like the Motif (as it wasn't designed to replace the Motif originally)
Thanks its helpful, but...When I follow all your steps and I want to "rec" a new track I don't get the option of "overdub" I only get replace?. I have the newest OS 3.0 any ideas?
Thank u for this video.. Very helpful... Plz make more tutorial on how to sequence multiple tracks with arpeggios and parts by this method.. Independently from a pc
I know you don’t have this board any longer but is there a way to delete the two tracks/part remnants of that romantic strings you had. When you switched to the solo violin part, I would want to delete the extra parts that were left. How do I do that?
great video Joe, you are the first to explain modx sequencing multitracking...I know you can load samples but is it possible to load a general midi files already done on another synthesizer?. keep up the good work
Thanks for watching! I believe you can load midi files, this isn't something I tried directly but I recall reading it somewhere either in the manual or when looking at how their plugin works. It should be able to load midi but I no longer have it so I can't check.
So with, Replace and overdub, in song mode I can't replace a part later on if I feel it needs it. I'd have to start over with the entire song to fix that one part I don't like? I have to rely on "Undo"?
It's been a while since I used the sequencer on this, they updated it to more of a pattern based workflow now, so you could probably just delete the track/part you want to redo.
Thanks I've been struggling with the choice of the MODX vs Roland's FA and I was wondering exactly how the recording feature worked on the MODX. It seems like the looping would work fine for my application. I kept coming back to the Modx to see if someone would show it. Great Video again thanks.
i have both keyboards - the MODX is geared to live performances. the FA is geared towards recording/making your own music. if you want the best of both - get a yamaha MOTIF XF
Love your channel. Have learned boatloads! I am using cubasis 2.7 and watched Dom's video on recording AUDIO in cubasis using the MODX but I'm getting no signal. Wondering what was the MODX set on? Stand alone or Audio to Daw? Dom said no set up was necessary and I followed his audio set up path in Cubasis 2.7 and I got NOTHIN'. Arrrrugh. Can you help me re: this? Using USB cable. Thanks!
When I tried it I don't remember having to setup anything specific, but maybe in the usb settings make sure audio is set to usb? I already sent these back to Yamaha unfortunately...and yes I miss them hahahaha.
@@SoundsAndGear Hey thanks for your swift reply! Aw man I bet you DO miss them! LOL! Update: The trick was to turn on permissions to use the MIC in Ipad for Cubasis. :D
Hi After doing all these, how do you save it on the keyboard and how would can you use it with songs especially if what you have done is drums/rhythm pattern that you may need for a performance and also play along? Thanks
@@SoundsAndGear Thanks bro, Yamaha just produced a complex keyboard, very tough to handle. I think psr s970 might be much more easier to use. What type of keyboard are you using now? Is it better than MODX? Thanks
@@ayotundeolubiyi Just depends on what you're looking for. I don't have a workstation currently, mainly use a few synths, my iPad, Rhodes, and a few plugins.
Can you make a demo video on the MODX showing how to to create a song step by step using the scenes, style parts, drums, bass, etc,, arps, rhythms, patterns sequencer, etc?
Thanks for the video. Any question... You can quantize, for example: the flute, after the recording? or only quantize before recording? If you quantize after, could you tell me how?
Thank you for this helpful tip. I am a pre-modx8 user only because I'm still waiting for that sorry up a to get my music work station to me di to their service failure, AGAIN. Wasn't my choice for that delivery service.
very helpfull!!! that was what i was searching for. Can you seh how you do it with an DAW? I made so far only songs with daw and plugins, but now i want to buy this montage and i am unsure if this is the right one.
Thanks for watching! I did a video showing how it works with Logic. Though my workflow is really just recording audio to whatever daw or sampler I’m using.
@@SoundsAndGear thanks a lot for your answer. So if it records audio, than its like sampling and different from working with plugins, understand. Was in hope it works that the DAW would have access to the sounds of the keyboard so that its easy to load the complete project later again and edit it and see the notes. Thanks a lot!
You could trigger it via MIDI, but eventually, you're going to have to record the audio anyway, I just like going straight to audio, it's personal preference though, you can definitely use it as a MIDI sound module and just record the audio later once you have your song/sequence laid out like you want.
@@SoundsAndGear Thank you very much! Just a question because you know such hardware better than me. Do you know if there is a keyboard which lets me work as i described, so that the DAW has access to the soundmodules and the keyboard works as soundplugin for the DAW? Or is this only a dream i have and i have to change my routine to make songs in future if i want such a keyboard? :-)
@@tamgaming9861 I don't know of any that have a plugin (there are a few synths like Novation Ultranova and Virus TI) but you can use any keyboard in your daw via MIDI/Audio. You will always have to record the audio though at some point because it is an external device. Here's an article on using the Montage in that way www.yamahasynth.com/montage-category/montage-and-cubase-pro-9-workflow
Got one more question? Even when I hit overdub, it doesn’t record onto the track I’m recording??? It records nothing additional to the original track I’m working on?
I no longer have this but I think it has to do with which track is in focus for recording, it's been a while since I tested this and honestly it wasn't something I used often at all.
Hey, thanks for responding back to my questions. Just got the Montage 8 and trying to navigate through system and get familiar. I think I got some of the track layering down? I think my problem did have to do with the “focus” option! Thanx for pointing that out! Much appreciated!!! -g
Great tutorial! Thanks Brother. So… can you record multiple of these loop performances or is it a scetch pad you can only use once then deleted next time you want to record ideas?
Awesome recording! I got a question? When I hit the record button again it doesn’t start a new recording? It just keeps adding recordings to the track??? Please help :)
Thanks for watching! Not sure what you mean but I think you need to change which track is in focus? Sorry I no longer have this synth so I can't test it.
@@SoundsAndGear Yo Thank you for the quick reply. PLEASE let me know how that sequencer is. It's crucial to me because I dont play keys and I only use a daw for recording. I'm old school with getting my patterns/sequences together to chain into song mode and then record them. Thanks man.
@@mpmi7588 Seems like a pretty straight forward pattern sequencer so far, set the loop, quantize on/off, and count in. Then you can just record as it loops. I haven't dug into all of the features yet. Also seems to have multiple scenes so you can lay out a general song arrangement using patterns.
This was actually very helpful. I'm using the Montage Connect VST in my Cubase 10.5 Pro and was looking to sync with songs created in the Montage. Only downside, unless you export your song as WAV from Montage to the PC, you can't mirror the sounds recorded in the Montage as general midi maps to the closest VST instrument defined in your DAW, so the sounds will not be as clear and concise in Cubase as recorded on the Montage. Let me know if this is incorrect. Thanks!
Thanks again for your tutoring. Couple of questions: (1) After you record say 3 tracks is there a way to view all tracks or each one? (2) I’m also trying to record voice OVER music track. Mic is registering on screen but only records in the “audio” mode and only plays back in that mode. Do you know how to get voice over music tracks?
It's not setup like a traditional workstation, the sequencer is very basic, not sure if you can see all the tracks together or even record audio over like a song. I no longer have this so I can't check.
Hello, ..... I create a multi track midi file then I save to my usb as ‘save as midifile’. After I was trying to play the file but it not play as properly. What’s the reason
I know you were recording in the midi tab, but can you record audio into the montage in the sequencer? If I want to hook up a bass guitar and record it in a sequence, can I do that?
Great video - I have a quick question: when you export the midi or the audio from a multitracked song like that, do you get the parts as separate midi files or the audio as stems for each instrument?
with 2.o which upgrades the SEQ for the MODX, can I edit a measure ? Lets say in measure 4 , on the flute track, I realize I made a mistake, call it a bad note, or off time. Can I erase that single measure, go into over dub, and re-record my measure 4 on the flute track ? I want to use MODX standalone for my SEQ
From what I can tell, you can do that. It's not a piano roll but you can erase specific parts of a pattern/track or even just do a replace recording over that track. I haven't tried that specifically but it seems that you can do it.
Yo, you answered key questions I’ve been wondering about as well as using in conjunction with my mpc. Appreciate that!! If you getta a chance, really need a video on how to pull up I think it’s xoa files fro my Yamaha motif Xf8 keyboard into my montage via jump drive. That would be awesome bro. All my files doesn’t pull up from the usb stick and if I try to load a specific song, it takes forever. I was told by guitar center that it could pull up the same way. Can’t figure out. Help!!🎶
SoundsAndGear I used to own a workstation psr 2000. I would be able to record a full song beginning to end. intro verses hooks and ending. How can I do that with the montage? Fyi I’m trying to recreate the song “Look for me” by Tania Goodman for a close relatives funeral. Any info would help me a lot. Thanks
hey! have you figured it out? I was wondering the same thing. I made a two bars recording and when I changed the performance it had the same sequence on it.
You never mentioned where it gets stored after I saved the song by selecting "Store song and performace setting". I just saved it and I have no idea how to retrieve what I saved. Where is it?
Nah, I'm not exclusive to anything. I use the MPC most of the time, but I also use Maschine as a sound module, so it just depends on what I'm feeling. Not really using Ableton Live much for production at the moment, mainly for editing and sound design.
I'm running a MODX from an MPC One, so it should be even easier on the X. Setting up some keyboard splits is easy on the MO, so you don't even need to use many tracks for the most part.
@@SoundsAndGear by chance could you possibly do a quick youtube video on setting that up or showing the workflow of using a mpc x/live/one sequencing parts of a modx/montage
@@MikeRP3147 Nah, I don't have the Montage anymore, plus, I'm really more of an audio fan, so I just record from whatever instrument into an audio track/loop, or sample.
When I record my first track/sound - it doesn’t give me the option to loop and add more tracks. Basically the squares where that option is supposed to be are empty. Can someone help plz!
@@SoundsAndGear Thank you. one last question, can we program a full song on it and play? I'm asking for 2 reasons; [1] I bought a Tyros 5 without thinking much. thought it must be better than my Motif. But it turns out its not a workstation.Can't program n can't synthesize/ voice edit. [2] too many models which I don't know who is for! So if you could answer me AND suggest me something similar to Motif would be very thankful.[ ie; song mode/ performance mode and voice mode]. !! [ Maybe not possible in this New World !! ].
I turned off keyboard control for the first sound and I put a new sound and when I play the first recording I have the second sound takes over the whole thing why is this?? Is it just my piano help me bc I’m so confused
So in Montage or Modx you can't create and edit a composition? Like the 16 tracks sequencer of Krome, Kronos etc? Montage allows you to create patterns only? And you must use a DAW for composing? 🤔
I just got the Montage. Can anyone tell me how to make a change to just one track? If I have 16 tracks in a pattern and I want to redo part of the drum track, can i punch in or replace that one track without messing up the other 15 tracks? Or can I just delete one track and redo it for that pattern? Thanks!
Nice presentation! Thanks for the pro tips about recording button and overdub/replace! Those would be hard lessons to learn and you've saved some frustration here!
Thanks for watching!
Your tip on single instruments being green was a big 'Ahhhhh!' moment for me haha. Cheers man.
Glad to help!
Same 😂😂
Thank you so much for recording this, I've looked for a tracking tutorial on MODX for hours over weeks, until I found yours. Only one that's clear and comprehensive. Well done!!
Glad to help, thanks for watching!
Out of all the videos out there on tracking on the Montage/MODX yours was only one that helped me record a multitrack 8bar loop that's all I needed! Thanks bro.
Glad to help!
Awesome video!! I’ve watched several videos on this topic and you are by far the best I’ve seen. You got right to the basics and made it easy to understand. Thank you!!
Glad to help, thanks for watching!
You are really good at teaching/explaining while you demonstrate the functionality. Well done and thank you.
Thanks for watching!
I recently updated my MODX8 to v2.0. I am excited to use the new Pattern Sequencer. At first it appeared quite complex to get used to using. Your clearly explained instructions made it easy to follow and learn, as I just did my first multi-track recorded loop. I enjoy your presentation style too. Much thanks again!
Cool, have fun, and thanks for watching!
Great stuff man, awesome vid on the Montage! ;)
Yo man! Thanks for watching :)
This is exactly what I need , thanx !
Glad to help!
Thank you soo much, I was looking for this about 2 years now
Glad to help
Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
thanks for watching
I just applied what you shown on your video. It works great. Looking forward to more videos. I’ve subscribed and following. Have a blessed day.
Thanks for watching!
Best I’ve seen, this explains a lot
Glad to help. Sequencer has been updated since this video so it should be a bit smoother now.
The NEW sequencer has transformed the Montage into a nearly to a must have. I bought one.
Cool, thanks for the comment!
Agreed but i hate the fact that you cant add sounds while the track is playing. If they added the ability to add sounds and overdub to trigger recording when you start playing it would make these keyboards absolute monsters. Especially in a live situation
Thank you for explaining it so clearly. I wanted to know about the 'undo' feature during sequencing which you explained perfectly.
Thanks for watching!
Like the split-screen demo
Cool thanks for watching fam!
Thank you so much!!!! Just got a modx8 the other day and I’ve been going crazy trying to get this tracking and recording together!!!!
Glad to help!
Please make a video on how to integrate it with Logic Pro X!
@@modxmike7608 No longer have this board
MANY MANY THANKS!! This is very helpful. thanks again.
glad to help!
Excellent job explaining this.
Thanks for watching!
This is GREAT. Thanks for sharing; much appreciated.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you, great tutorial.
Thanks for watching!
Thank-you for making this tutorial! It was very helpful!!!!
Glad to help!
Good stuff man. The lack of traditional sequencer is a daily annoyance and I'm wondering how to get round this. Do you know if I can use a sequencer like the Beatstep Pro to feed MIDI into the Montage, say a complex drum part? Also, in order to edit MIDI data stored on the MODX, do I manually have to export it to a PC via USB stick, or can I mount the Montage as a discoverable drive on the PC and live-edit the MIDI files that way, without the need for transfer? Thanks in advance.
I haven't really tried it with external sequencers but it should work, you can set it up to be triggered via MIDI, don't think there is any live MIDI editing but may be something in place with the plugin/transfer app. I honestly never really used it in that way as I tend to work with audio mostly so I just record sounds out of my synths/boards into the MPC, Maschine, or whatever I'm using.
@@SoundsAndGear OK thanks.
Using the Rs7000 has external sequencer is a great combination with the modx and montage in my setup.
I've been watching your videos and they are really nice. Simple and to the point. Agree - that the split screen video is nice. Do you have a video, or can you make one up that shows how to set up a custom drum arpeggio? Thank you for doing these!
Thanks for watching, I appreciate it. Unfortunately, I no longer have these synths, they were on loan from Yamaha. If I end up getting the Montage in again will see what I can find out about that.
Great lesson, clear and understandable. Helped me better understand MODX workflow. Question, upon first recording of a compositional loop, how should I delete the first attempt if unsatisfied. 1st attempt was 3 min and I need to redo the whole thing but shorter. So overdub leaves a portion.
Thanks for watching! I no longer have this keyboard and it has been a while since I tried it. If I recall I thought there was a delete or undo option within the sequencer.
This is an awesome video how would I export out of the keyboard to a daw
Most likely record the audio into your daw, there is probably an export function but I haven't used one of these in years so I don't recall. I generally just record my audio directly in realtime to whatever I'm using (daw, sampler, etc)
@@SoundsAndGear thank you
man this helped out a lot
Glad to help!
Thanks for the tutorial, Just what I needed to learn on my montage
No problem!
Well explained.
Thanks for watching
Super video, thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks, this is exactly what i was looking for , I could not figure out the recording, overdubbing, and undo on my own. I saw a loop demo first and that confused me when I just wanted to record straight. Nice demo tune also.
One other thing, when I hit record on my modx , the display is nothing like that and I don't even see an undo button. ??
Thanks for watching. Things may have changed since I tried this.
Can i load patterns that i made in motif xs7 (with wave backing tracks in it) into the montage?
Not sure, never used an xs7 and no longer have the montage.
Thanks my friend, really helpful vid.
Glad to help, thanks for watching!
what's Saint Joe.........I be glad when you cover the new firmware MPC X 2.6 update and cover everything, most guys on youtube just covered step and grid automation, but they didn't cover the other features. I hope you cover everything because you expalin things better than the other MPC youtuber except for Andy Mac, AND BK Banga, LOL just playing all 3 of you guys are on the same level teaching hardware, nothing agaisnt the other guys tho......you are one of the best.....
Thanks for the support fam! I think Akai already did a good job covering the updates honestly, their official videos show all of what's new and how it works in a few pretty quick videos. Don't know if I'll be doing anything on the 2.6 specifically.
I have been creating my own music for the last year and making a living from it. Not a huge amount of money "Yet" however just recently I have bought the Modx plus and feel frustrated having to learn how this thing works. It has massive capabilities along with a huge learning curve to bang out some amazing tunes and found SoundsAndGear. Thankyou for this video. Iv'e spent a good 2 hours following your instructions and although I am not even close to where I want to be the frustrating thing is having to read the instruction manual and following video's like this. Am I the only one that hates reading Manuals? But I need to so I will be able to create what I want to do. My first year as a solo artist creating music which was just for fun, someone sent me some money via Pay Pal which confused me, then another guy sent me some money and another and so on. I thought my music was nothing special although I was told I have a very creative mind even strange adding things into the Chorus or lead others would never dream off. I had 72,000 Downloads with just 9 instrumentals. 56,752 Views 72,639 Downloads in 1 year I gave away free for You Tubers to use in their video's. A lot of my music can be found with different companies online claiming it as their own and selling it which I have witnessed myself "All good though" However I have come to a complete stop making music since buying this MODX cuz I don't know how to work the ******* thing. You have said: Quote: Thanks for watching! Glad this video helped. I no longer have a Montage in my setup however you got a new sub from me as this has been the best follow along video I have watched. Other You Tube videos of the same MODX showing us. Look you got some strings, piano, trumpet, drums are a pointless watch that teach us nothing. This video I did learn something. Thanks mate. The first instrumental I knock out I'll send it to you for your thoughts. Once Again a massive thankyou from the UK for the vid.
Glad to help!
Do you have any videos of how to do basic drums on the keyboard? I have a Yamaha Modx7. Thanks.
No I don't.
Awesome Video.
Thanks for watching!
Very well done and extremely helpful! Thank you!
Glad to help! Now they have the pattern sequencer which makes sequencer much easier.
Great video, thank you ;)
Hey bro! Thanks for watching man. I get this question quite a bit!
Thanks for the video. had my montage 2 days. Is there any way to have the recorded instruments follow chord changes if you wanna play along to it? I guess you could almost say arranger style. I know the Montage has some preset drum patterns with base backgrounds which you can do this with. Just struggling to find any instructions how to do this to create my own drum pattern and base patterns which i can play along to. Or am i asking too much of the Montage and should of stuck to an Arranger Keyboard. Thanks
I no longer have this but I am not aware of any auto chord change options
Thx Man, you made me love my modx more... This was the feature I missed :)
Cool, thanks for watching! Glad to help!
Brilliant video.. thanks, im new to my ModX8 but.. i read that using the hardware sequencer on the ModX (os.252) or Montage (os.3) you only have access to the first 8 tracks, to get the 16 tracks, you need to use a outboard Midi Sequencer or connect to a DAW.. is that right?
Thanks for watching. It has been a few years since I used this, I honestly don't remember as I didn't really use it as a sequencer in my workflow.
Hello, your presentation was great, I learned a whole lot and thank you, fyi, I own a modx8.
Thanks for watching
Hi there , thanx for the video. Its a great video to start. But I m stuck with one problem. How do i delete a particular track i recorded in a song . Everytime i select the track and set the record to replace. All the tracks get replaced.TQ
Thanks for watching. Sorry, but I no longer have this synth so I'm not sure.
I learned quite a few things from that video thank you very much! so essentially you have 16 tracks on the looper/song recorder but can only use up to 8 sounds (single part performances) or even less if you use multi-parts? that kinda sucks, because If I wanna use a couple of sounds that have 4 parts each (like a piano+ep+string+bell layered) I'm deeply limited to only 4 more :/
Thanks for watching! Yeah, you have 16 sounds/tracks. So you can have up to 16 sounds (parts). The 8 part limit is for key splits and layers, you can have more than 8 parts in the performance though, up to 16 :)
How to add wave files (backing track) and send the klik to the drummer?
I don't know, probably check with Yamaha on that.
m excited for the modx and plan to get one. But that sequencer seems more cumbersome and restirictive than the motif xf sequencer that I'm used to. Will xf users make an easy transition to montage wrt the sequencer?
They recently updated the sequencer, checkout my recent video where I show how it compares to the new Fantom. Overall, it isn't exactly like the Motif (as it wasn't designed to replace the Motif originally)
@@SoundsAndGear ok thanks.
@@deondewit3175 no problem
This video is great can you save recordings to a usb stick?
I believe you can choose to save to a USB device
SoundsAndGear Thanks for responding bro
No problem
Excellent help thanks.. 🙂
No problem, thanks for watching!
Thanks!
Thanks for watching
Hi.. This video was really helpful.. Can u record different scenes or. Parts as loops and them play them in a sequence like motif xf pattern mode?
There is no pattern mode in these, just a basic sequencer.
Hello thanks for great video. How do feel the MODX compares to the MOXF8? I’m deciding between the two.
I had a MOXF6 for a while, the MODX is a step up due to the new engine and the touchscreen I'd say personally.
No comparision. Modx is much better
It would be nice if yamaha came out with a sound module based on the modx line. The motif xs rack is long overdue for a upgrade/update
Thanks its helpful, but...When I follow all your steps and I want to "rec" a new track I don't get the option of "overdub" I only get replace?. I have the newest OS 3.0 any ideas?
Not sure, you should be able to switch between the two.
Same here, please help anyone if you can
@@grinnerschic I wonder if it is because they added the pattern sequencer and that's where you do "overdub" type recording now?
@@SoundsAndGear Okay thanks for your help
@@grinnerschic no problem
Thank u for this video.. Very helpful... Plz make more tutorial on how to sequence multiple tracks with arpeggios and parts by this method.. Independently from a pc
Thanks for watching, glad it helped!
I know you don’t have this board any longer but is there a way to delete the two tracks/part remnants of that romantic strings you had. When you switched to the solo violin part, I would want to delete the extra parts that were left. How do I do that?
Not sure, you should be able to remove them from the performance but I do not remember how to do so.
great video Joe, you are the first to explain modx sequencing multitracking...I know you can load samples but is it possible to load a general midi files already done on another synthesizer?. keep up the good work
Thanks for watching! I believe you can load midi files, this isn't something I tried directly but I recall reading it somewhere either in the manual or when looking at how their plugin works. It should be able to load midi but I no longer have it so I can't check.
thanks
So with, Replace and overdub, in song mode I can't replace a part later on if I feel it needs it. I'd have to start over with the entire song to fix that one part I don't like? I have to rely on "Undo"?
It's been a while since I used the sequencer on this, they updated it to more of a pattern based workflow now, so you could probably just delete the track/part you want to redo.
Thanks I've been struggling with the choice of the MODX vs Roland's FA and I was wondering exactly how the recording feature worked on the MODX. It seems like the looping would work fine for my application. I kept coming back to the Modx to see if someone would show it. Great Video again thanks.
Glad to help! Yeah, it's not a full pattern based setup but you can definitely capture some ideas. Glad to help!
i have both keyboards - the MODX is geared to live performances. the FA is geared towards recording/making your own music. if you want the best of both - get a yamaha MOTIF XF
Thanks for the video. Is there a way to turn off the metronome beep sound that plays while you are recording?
Thanks for watching, I can't remember, no longer have this.
Does the Montage make you miss the SEQUENCER that was in the MOTIF XF
Nah, I record it into other stuff and don't use the sequencer at all.
Not missing it now!
OS 3.0 now (as of September) have a full sequencer. Go update your firmware and you’ll be all set. I did mine yesterday and it’s fantastic!
@@eddiemajour8481 Looking forward to checking out the new sequencer at some point!
Love your channel. Have learned boatloads! I am using cubasis 2.7 and watched Dom's video on recording AUDIO in cubasis using the MODX but I'm getting no signal. Wondering what was the MODX set on? Stand alone or Audio to Daw? Dom said no set up was necessary and I followed his audio set up path in Cubasis 2.7 and I got NOTHIN'. Arrrrugh. Can you help me re: this? Using USB cable. Thanks!
When I tried it I don't remember having to setup anything specific, but maybe in the usb settings make sure audio is set to usb? I already sent these back to Yamaha unfortunately...and yes I miss them hahahaha.
@@SoundsAndGear Hey thanks for your swift reply! Aw man I bet you DO miss them! LOL! Update: The trick was to turn on permissions to use the MIC in Ipad for Cubasis. :D
Oh yeah! I usually turn that on by default when I install an audio app so I didn't have to adjust it. Glad you got it going!
Hi
After doing all these, how do you save it on the keyboard and how would can you use it with songs especially if what you have done is drums/rhythm pattern that you may need for a performance and also play along?
Thanks
Sorry, I no longer have this, I do not remember how to save on it.
@@SoundsAndGear
Thanks bro, Yamaha just produced a complex keyboard, very tough to handle.
I think psr s970 might be much more easier to use.
What type of keyboard are you using now? Is it better than MODX?
Thanks
@@ayotundeolubiyi Just depends on what you're looking for. I don't have a workstation currently, mainly use a few synths, my iPad, Rhodes, and a few plugins.
What buttons do you press to set your looping time?
Been a while, I don’t remember
Can you make a demo video on the MODX showing how to to create a song step by step using
the scenes, style parts, drums, bass, etc,, arps, rhythms, patterns sequencer, etc?
No, I don't have the MODX anymore.
RUclips has a few videos on the subject but here is one that might help you.
ruclips.net/video/bviHbzHeyaA/видео.html
Thanks for the video. Any question... You can quantize, for example: the flute, after the recording? or only quantize before recording? If you quantize after, could you tell me how?
Thanks for watching, sorry I do not have this anymore so I'm not sure.
How do you send what you recorded to the daw
Record the audio into your daw
@@SoundsAndGear thank you
Hey @SoundsandGear, you wrote in a comment you no longer have the Montage. What do you have instead?
I don't have anything instead, just sent it back as it was a demo unit.
Thank you for this helpful tip. I am a pre-modx8 user only because I'm still waiting for that sorry up a to get my music work station to me di to their service failure, AGAIN.
Wasn't my choice for that delivery service.
Thanks for watching!
very helpfull!!! that was what i was searching for. Can you seh how you do it with an DAW? I made so far only songs with daw and plugins, but now i want to buy this montage and i am unsure if this is the right one.
Thanks for watching! I did a video showing how it works with Logic. Though my workflow is really just recording audio to whatever daw or sampler I’m using.
@@SoundsAndGear thanks a lot for your answer. So if it records audio, than its like sampling and different from working with plugins, understand. Was in hope it works that the DAW would have access to the sounds of the keyboard so that its easy to load the complete project later again and edit it and see the notes. Thanks a lot!
You could trigger it via MIDI, but eventually, you're going to have to record the audio anyway, I just like going straight to audio, it's personal preference though, you can definitely use it as a MIDI sound module and just record the audio later once you have your song/sequence laid out like you want.
@@SoundsAndGear Thank you very much! Just a question because you know such hardware better than me. Do you know if there is a keyboard which lets me work as i described, so that the DAW has access to the soundmodules and the keyboard works as soundplugin for the DAW? Or is this only a dream i have and i have to change my routine to make songs in future if i want such a keyboard? :-)
@@tamgaming9861 I don't know of any that have a plugin (there are a few synths like Novation Ultranova and Virus TI) but you can use any keyboard in your daw via MIDI/Audio. You will always have to record the audio though at some point because it is an external device. Here's an article on using the Montage in that way www.yamahasynth.com/montage-category/montage-and-cubase-pro-9-workflow
Got one more question? Even when I hit overdub, it doesn’t record onto the track I’m recording??? It records nothing additional to the original track I’m working on?
I no longer have this but I think it has to do with which track is in focus for recording, it's been a while since I tested this and honestly it wasn't something I used often at all.
Hey, thanks for responding back to my questions. Just got the Montage 8 and trying to navigate through system and get familiar. I think I got some of the track layering down? I think my problem did have to do with the “focus” option! Thanx for pointing that out! Much appreciated!!!
-g
@@emeryerze1233 Nice!
Can you record full song using that recording sound?? How many sound can u record separately? Is it only 16 or can be more?
You could probably record a full song, I do not remember how many sounds you can record with, some sounds are layered, etc so it depends.
Great tutorial! Thanks Brother. So… can you record multiple of these loop performances or is it a scetch pad you can only use once then deleted next time you want to record ideas?
Thanks for watching. I haven't had this keyboard for a while, I think they changed and added a more traditional way of sequencing now.
Woow thanks man! Bought the modx8 recently and am trying to get my head around it. This video opened my eye to a lot of stuff I've been missing
Cool, glad to help, thanks for watching!
can the modx8 show you what chord your playing?
Not that I know of.
Awesome recording! I got a question? When I hit the record button again it doesn’t start a new recording? It just keeps adding recordings to the track??? Please help :)
Thanks for watching! Not sure what you mean but I think you need to change which track is in focus? Sorry I no longer have this synth so I can't test it.
@@SoundsAndGear I gotta know why you dont have it anymore. I was gonna get the modx6
@@mpmi7588 It was just a loaner unit, actually just got another one in for testing the new OS update
@@SoundsAndGear Yo Thank you for the quick reply. PLEASE let me know how that sequencer is. It's crucial to me because I dont play keys and I only use a daw for recording. I'm old school with getting my patterns/sequences together to chain into song mode and then record them. Thanks man.
@@mpmi7588 Seems like a pretty straight forward pattern sequencer so far, set the loop, quantize on/off, and count in. Then you can just record as it loops. I haven't dug into all of the features yet. Also seems to have multiple scenes so you can lay out a general song arrangement using patterns.
This was actually very helpful. I'm using the Montage Connect VST in my Cubase 10.5 Pro and was looking to sync with songs created in the Montage. Only downside, unless you export your song as WAV from Montage to the PC, you can't mirror the sounds recorded in the Montage as general midi maps to the closest VST instrument defined in your DAW, so the sounds will not be as clear and concise in Cubase as recorded on the Montage. Let me know if this is incorrect. Thanks!
Cool, glad to help in some way, thanks for watching!
Thanks for the ear.
Thanks again for your tutoring. Couple of questions: (1) After you record say 3 tracks is there a way to view all tracks or each one? (2) I’m also trying to record voice OVER music track. Mic is registering on screen but only records in the “audio” mode and only plays back in that mode. Do you know how to get voice over music tracks?
It's not setup like a traditional workstation, the sequencer is very basic, not sure if you can see all the tracks together or even record audio over like a song. I no longer have this so I can't check.
Hello, ..... I create a multi track midi file then I save to my usb as ‘save as midifile’. After I was trying to play the file but it not play as properly. What’s the reason
not sure, contact Yamaha support for help
I know you were recording in the midi tab, but can you record audio into the montage in the sequencer? If I want to hook up a bass guitar and record it in a sequence, can I do that?
Not that I know of, there is no sampling/audio recording functionality that I'm aware of.
Great video - I have a quick question: when you export the midi or the audio from a multitracked song like that, do you get the parts as separate midi files or the audio as stems for each instrument?
Thanks for watching, I no longer have this so I'm not sure how the files get exported.
@@SoundsAndGear thank you, anyway! Great video!
@@wiredbassclarinet No problem!
Dope! Thanks bro
Thanks for checking!
how does this work flow improve with the new update 3.0?
They added a full pattern sequencer now, I haven't used it so I can't speak on how it works.
@@SoundsAndGear //okay,That they have.
Is it true that this Modx contains the whole yamaha DX7 sounds?
I don't know, I think so. I think you can add a DX7 expansion that has all the originals.
@@SoundsAndGear Cool thanks. If you ever find that link, please list it. I've searched. Lol
@@mpmi7588 Here ya go www.yamahamusicsoft.com/synth/montage-expanded
Please can you tell me how you would then save this composition you've made? I tried the save option and it only saved one part?
You should be able to save the whole thing to an SD card, USB drive, etc.
with 2.o which upgrades the SEQ for the MODX, can I edit a measure ? Lets say in measure 4 , on the flute track, I realize I made a mistake, call it a bad note, or off time.
Can I erase that single measure, go into over dub, and re-record my measure 4 on the flute track ? I want to use MODX standalone for my SEQ
From what I can tell, you can do that. It's not a piano roll but you can erase specific parts of a pattern/track or even just do a replace recording over that track. I haven't tried that specifically but it seems that you can do it.
Yo, you answered key questions I’ve been wondering about as well as using in conjunction with my mpc. Appreciate that!! If you getta a chance, really need a video on how to pull up I think it’s xoa files fro my Yamaha motif Xf8 keyboard into my montage via jump drive. That would be awesome bro. All my files doesn’t pull up from the usb stick and if I try to load a specific song, it takes forever. I was told by guitar center that it could pull up the same way. Can’t figure out. Help!!🎶
Thanks for watching! Glad this video helped. I no longer have a Montage in my setup.
Thanks for the video. Very informative. But How do I record a full song on the montage?
Not sure what you mean? You can build up your sequence over multiple tracks, but that's pretty much the extent of the sequencer.
SoundsAndGear I used to own a workstation psr 2000. I would be able to record a full song beginning to end. intro verses hooks and ending. How can I do that with the montage? Fyi I’m trying to recreate the song “Look for me” by Tania Goodman for a close relatives funeral. Any info would help me a lot. Thanks
It doesn't have a pattern/section style sequencer, the sequencer is really basic here.
SoundsAndGear okay thank you for your time. God bless and keep it coming
@@userfriendly4264 no problem
Is it possible to save the recorded sequence with the performance?
Or is the sequence a global separat thing?
I'm actually not sure, I think it is separate but I could be wrong. I know you can save it on it's own.
hey! have you figured it out? I was wondering the same thing. I made a two bars recording and when I changed the performance it had the same sequence on it.
You never mentioned where it gets stored after I saved the song by selecting "Store song and performace setting". I just saved it and I have no idea how to retrieve what I saved. Where is it?
You go back into the menu to load it, it is stored on your USB device or the unit itself. I save everything to my USB device.
@@SoundsAndGear Thank you
No problem!
Hey joe, hope your doing good! Are you pretty much exclusively on the MPC now? No more ableton or Maschine?
Nah, I'm not exclusive to anything. I use the MPC most of the time, but I also use Maschine as a sound module, so it just depends on what I'm feeling. Not really using Ableton Live much for production at the moment, mainly for editing and sound design.
What if I just wanted to use my mpc x to do my sequencing but use the modx sounds?
You can do it, just set up the MIDI
I'm running a MODX from an MPC One, so it should be even easier on the X. Setting up some keyboard splits is easy on the MO, so you don't even need to use many tracks for the most part.
@@SoundsAndGear by chance could you possibly do a quick youtube video on setting that up or showing the workflow of using a mpc x/live/one sequencing parts of a modx/montage
@@MikeRP3147 Nah, I don't have the Montage anymore, plus, I'm really more of an audio fan, so I just record from whatever instrument into an audio track/loop, or sample.
@@SoundsAndGear I am as well. I just like sequencing into the mpc to get parts down then once I get the performance I like I go straight to audio..
When I record my first track/sound - it doesn’t give me the option to loop and add more tracks. Basically the squares where that option is supposed to be are empty. Can someone help plz!
They've updated the sequencer since this video, check their site for current workflows.
Did you mean that sequencer [ song mode] in in MOTIF is no longer available in MONTAGE?
They don't have the same exact sequencer, but the Montage has been updated since this video.
@@SoundsAndGear Thank you. one last question, can we program a full song on it and play?
I'm asking for 2 reasons; [1] I bought a Tyros 5 without thinking much. thought it must be better than my Motif. But it turns out its not a workstation.Can't program n can't synthesize/ voice edit. [2] too many models which I don't know who is for! So if you could answer me AND suggest me something similar to Motif would be very thankful.[ ie; song mode/ performance mode and voice mode]. !! [ Maybe not possible in this New World !! ].
@@exa11762 Should be fine with the new sequencer.
@@SoundsAndGear thanks. will have a look.
I turned off keyboard control for the first sound and I put a new sound and when I play the first recording I have the second sound takes over the whole thing why is this?? Is it just my piano help me bc I’m so confused
I no longer have this and don't remember as it wasn't a feature I used when I had it just did the video to answer a question.
When I saved a song that had 5 sounds, it only saved the first track. Any idea why?
No, I no longer have this and really did not use the sequencer much at all.
thanks
Thanks for watching!
So in Montage or Modx you can't create and edit a composition? Like the 16 tracks sequencer of Krome, Kronos etc? Montage allows you to create patterns only? And you must use a DAW for composing? 🤔
It is a different setup than a kronos for sure, not sure how much it has changed since I tried it.
please can someone help me using the MODX8 with Logic Pro X ?
Check the Yamaha Synth site, they have tons of tutorials on there
Can you save the sequence to a SCENE within a Performance?
Not sure
I just got the Montage. Can anyone tell me how to make a change to just one track? If I have 16 tracks in a pattern and I want to redo part of the drum track, can i punch in or replace that one track without messing up the other 15 tracks? Or can I just delete one track and redo it for that pattern? Thanks!
Sorry, I no longer have it so I can't check but you should be able to enable just that track for recording.
@@SoundsAndGear I found out I did not have the latest firmware. I updated to 3.0 and all is good.
@@jgweems nice!