@@betterincomebetterlife7863Tony is the complete opposite I think. What makes homelander different and unique is his display of vulnerability in a somewhat feminine way. Soprano does not have this same privileged as he always has to hide his insecurities but they just slip out. The exact opposite and kind of hiding behind hyper masculinity to the point of being trapped in it. Homelander has so much power he isn't afraid to be vulnerable to his victims, a very interesting display of masculine and feminine as one but in a very scary way.
@@Eli-ls4rf Is it though?. High school girls get horrified when their parents pick them up from school. _Terror_ seems more like life and death situations, and is a few notches above _horror._ Hence _terrorism._ While there is no _horrorism._
@@MarquisJames245 zhey literally tortured him with fire, did you expect him.to forget anyone? even foes who did nothing directly still saw him getting tortured and did nothing
@@lordship1543I’d know I’m already dead so I’d try and die in the least painful way and I think if I tried to escape there’s a chance he might laser me in half but keep me alive. Thankgod I don’t work as a scientist putting kids in ovens!
Imagine how things would be much different if only ONE of them would come to him like, idk, ten years prior and actually apologise him for doing those things...
If super memory is a superpower of Homelanders then it makes a lot more sense he would remember every detail of every physical and psychological torture he went through.
@miloguiness Frenchie isn't gay "all of a sudden". They mention him having an ex boyfriend in season one. Dude's BEEN Bi, but you're somehow just realizing it.
@@miloguiness What woke storyline? Him being bisexual is mentioned in the first season. Also, you would really stop watching this gem because a character is gay? That says a lot about you. lol
@@miloguiness They weren't head over heels in love. They liked each other but their relationship was more asexual. In fact the pervious season they establish that there relationship should basically just be best friends as being lovers just doesn't feel right. Also, there was nothing exclusive between each other at any point in the series. I think you saw what you wanted to see. Even if they were romantically in love at some point, it was well established in season 1 that he was bisexual, meaning at any time he could fall in love with a man. So basically as long as he's with a woman the show is good but him being with a guy is "woke" and unwatchable. There are a lot of goofy reasons to stop watching a good show and that one is among the top 3 lol Either way it doesn't effect my enjoyment of the series so you do you.
Either way, it would be slightly less of a problem since there's cryptonite and red light to "nerf" him, in case things go wrong. But Homelander is really kinda immortal
@@francescacastronovo647Meh, Kryptonite has remained really inconsistent throughout multiple comics and media. He’s only as strong as the writers will make him out to be much like with many other superheroes. I still think Superman on his worst day is more powerful than Homelander on his best days lol
You know they could have still gotten all their testing and still had a good hero by simply treating him differently. Instead of acting like they were on charge and forcing him to do things, they could have had him grow with his powers on his own. Let him take the challenge of withstanding the heat on his own. Let him be in control of how much he takes rather than people forcing his limits over and over. That's how you break someone. Its just crazy that none of them stopped to think that maybe they were raising a super powered child wrong, and then it came back to bite them in the ass when that child ended up turning into a monster from all that trauma. While all of this is completely messed up, it is not undeserved.
The woman still explain that the only way they could control Homelander was to psychologically manipulate him to be dependent on people loving him which is why his other personality/personalities told him to go there to break that control.
They do this similarly to kids in care. I have BPD and it went undiagnosed at the time. If I raised my voice they would pin me to the floor with their whole body weight and restrain me. I was 10. They've literally made me a sociopath.
I actually had that thought. Like “homelander. The bosses wanna know how durable you are to fire and what effect it’ll have on you so we gotta put you into the oven. However, at ANY time that you think you can’t handle it, I’ll shut it down and pull you out okay?”
@@zikonrokarminrot636 They had to make him think they didn’t fear him and made them seem like they have control over him or else it’d be like a Brightburn situation, He didn’t value anyone live because he saw himself superior. Something also referenced in Chronicle, an Apex predator has no predator and him killing humans doesn’t affect him like you stepping on an ant. Really they could only delay the inevitable.
@@yamete1729I’m pretty sure brightburn wasn’t bullied. He lived a pretty solid life until he came across his ship and tested his powers. That one girl only dropped him because he did technically spy on her.
It’s amazing how right at the 8 second mark you can see Marty’s face change when he remembers how he treated Homelander. He knew it was too late to fix anything, incredible acting
I like ld this, because its simultaneously making him sympathetic, while also fully leaning into his psychopathy, he was made into a monster, but he still is a monster regardless
What if some of them were new to the job and the field in general, like fresh college graduates or something? We know vought is evil because we as viewers have inside knowledge, but in their universe from the outside I could maybe see a company like vought being like a dream company for a stem major
Unfortunately people only notice when others are doing it, for example Americans treated the middle east like a roach infestation even though we're responsible for the current state of that place @TheEnigmaticBM39
The whole set on scenes in here are brilliant, you don’t know who will die when or how and there’s these lulls where he’s being friendly and then you’ll get a line like “just stay there a minute” and you know that guy’s doomed
"I was only doing my job" Neither Frank or Marty cared about torturing a child, Marty even find it funny and named Homelander squirt (that shlt had me tho 😅) they were monsters creating an even worse monster, they had it coming.
I'm not going to lie homelander was already my favorite character in the show but he might be the top or in the top three TV show / movie villains ever. I mean there's something f****** special about his performance as homelander. He's phenomenal homelander is like the epitome of the perfect villain almost with so many insecurities and the childhood trauma mix with the power of a god, Anthony Starr really nailed homelander to perfection
@@synl8847 I know about tells and stuff, But at this point, maybe, I would practically be disassociating from the conversation with homelander. I would have had the spark of memory triggered by his remark and I would, if I were insightful, be thinking about the long train of injuries I and we had all laid upon him, and I would be feeling very guilty and sad and remorseful at that moment. (Assuming of course he had any sort of insight or had gained any in the 20 or 30 years he had been there.) I must confess that I haven't followed the show from its origin, only seeing YT clips, but it seems to be a story originating in World War II biotechnology? So this is what, the '70s or '80s in America? Post-Soviet? Today? I mean who were the fathers and grandfathers if Soldier Boy was Homelander's father? Where is the rest of the world at, just abject subjects to an America flush with the power of supes? Who else has supes projects?
He can do worse than kill you, he can torture you, or kill your family and feed them to you. Or he might let you walk. We the audience know he won't, but they don't know it. He kept a lot of stuff secret.
This scene really goes to show how much context can change the way you view a situation, even if you end up at the same conclusion. Homelander evil? Yes. Justified? Absolutely not. You can't justify a wrong with others wrongs. Thats not how it works But did my heart break for him and instantly did I understand him? More than words can even say. But as i saw in another comment, as much heartbreak as I feel for the boy who was experimented on, hes a grown man now and he's made his choice. He must be stopped. Now thats a great villain. Hurt people, hurt people.
The fact Homelander didn't exact his revenge at a much earlier age was the only source of relief these guys got unintentionally from him before he got his revenge
I feel for homelander because you know nobody’s sorry, nobody genuinely likes you, they’re all terrified of you and secretly hate you. Can you blame him?
Imagine the fear factor in that room. HL completely paralyzed them in fear. They know that they are going to die, and there's nothing they can do but obey his every command🫤
Homelander is the best and most relatable character in the series. Especially if you've known any kind of trauma or basically lived an unsheltered life....
*Thoughts on episode 4?*
Got his get back
Chicken soup for the soul
They got off easy. At least they could die, homelander felt every second of pain.
Saw but with Superman. What unchecked trauma will do to you
When Homelander is on screen it's like a game of will he spare them or not 😅
"...Hey, guys, c'mon over here!" Homelander gives off Gordon Ramsay vibes with ritual humiliation.
That's what i was thinking
More like if Tony soprano was Superman.
@@betterincomebetterlife7863Tony is the complete opposite I think.
What makes homelander different and unique is his display of vulnerability in a somewhat feminine way. Soprano does not have this same privileged as he always has to hide his insecurities but they just slip out.
The exact opposite and kind of hiding behind hyper masculinity to the point of being trapped in it.
Homelander has so much power he isn't afraid to be vulnerable to his victims, a very interesting display of masculine and feminine as one but in a very scary way.
Gordon is right if you really know the lore of Gordon
😮😮😮😮...DARK!!!
Homelander has a very unique way of working through his childhood trauma.
Men will do anything before hiring a therapist
I think it's the other way around
Very common for people to do this instead of looking for healthier ways
@@hell1942 I think sarcasm might be dead. You know ??
@@theducklord5748 🤣🤣🤣
Fitting, because he had very unique childhood trauma. I had parents and they never put me in an oven
bro in his "healing" arc💀
😂😂💀💀💀
😂😂
Tying up loose ends
Boring.
@@SaviorCross 💔
I love how Marty absolutely freezes when Homelander tells him to stay right there, he’s horrified
_Terrified_ is the word you’re looking for.
@@nlawson2004literally the same thing
@@Eli-ls4rf Is it though?.
High school girls get horrified when their parents pick them up from school.
_Terror_ seems more like life and death situations, and is a few notches above _horror._ Hence _terrorism._ While there is no _horrorism._
@@nlawson2004 google it buddy
@@nlawson2004☝️🤓
Reminds me of the saying “the axe forgets, but the tree remembers”
After all what does "caring" do now?
And then we make move axes outta the tree
@@genericname1672yup. “Hurt people hurt people” is essentially what it boils down to.
Trees don’t remember axes are made from trees it’s herbicide
"What's love got to do with it? Ain't nothing but a second hand in motion"
- Tina Turner 😂
How could they not understand he would turn out this way?
Bro that was like 30 something years ago
@@MarquisJames245 People hold grudges. They had to know
They are just as sick as he is. In fact, he is just their image.
@@MarquisJames245 Imagine a survivor of 731 Unit or someone who survived Holocaust, but with superpower. That's basically Homelander in this episode.
@@MarquisJames245 zhey literally tortured him with fire, did you expect him.to forget anyone? even foes who did nothing directly still saw him getting tortured and did nothing
Imagine it’s your first day working there and this happened
I don't think dead ppl can imagine 💀
And you fogot to bring dollah DOLLA BIIIILLLLS
I'd leave the second he entered the room.
@@lordship1543I’d know I’m already dead so I’d try and die in the least painful way and I think if I tried to escape there’s a chance he might laser me in half but keep me alive. Thankgod I don’t work as a scientist putting kids in ovens!
Imagine how things would be much different if only ONE of them would come to him like, idk, ten years prior and actually apologise him for doing those things...
He would k them. It's done at this point.
Or actually cared and treated him like a human being going through human being emotions and what-not.
He would’ve killed them and hated the reminder. It was only ever going to end this way once the did it. Just a matter of when really
Homelander is a man made monster in more ways than one
Or if even one of them treated him with any kind of decency.
He might have spared at least one if they were at least nice to him.
If super memory is a superpower of Homelanders then it makes a lot more sense he would remember every detail of every physical and psychological torture he went through.
We also call it trauma and a lot of non-meta humans have it, did you know?
True, but judging that he is a supe high chance he DOES have super memory making it pretty hard to forget or even forgive so yuup@@etherealhatred
We tend to remember the bad shit more vividly especially if it happened in childhood
That’s a normal human power, all people can get it. It’s called “trauma” and it makes people who see it act like idiots on the internet.
@@etherealhatred”Meta-human” wrong universe bro
Anthony Starr deserves an Emmy for this season alone
Marty too to be honest!!
@miloguiness Frenchie isn't gay "all of a sudden". They mention him having an ex boyfriend in season one. Dude's BEEN Bi, but you're somehow just realizing it.
@@miloguinessthank god, hopefully more people like you stop watching
@@miloguiness What woke storyline? Him being bisexual is mentioned in the first season. Also, you would really stop watching this gem because a character is gay? That says a lot about you. lol
@@miloguiness They weren't head over heels in love. They liked each other but their relationship was more asexual. In fact the pervious season they establish that there relationship should basically just be best friends as being lovers just doesn't feel right. Also, there was nothing exclusive between each other at any point in the series. I think you saw what you wanted to see.
Even if they were romantically in love at some point, it was well established in season 1 that he was bisexual, meaning at any time he could fall in love with a man. So basically as long as he's with a woman the show is good but him being with a guy is "woke" and unwatchable. There are a lot of goofy reasons to stop watching a good show and that one is among the top 3 lol Either way it doesn't effect my enjoyment of the series so you do you.
Homelander is providing catharsis for everyone. 😂
IDK. Homelander forcing us all to watch a middle age man jerk off kinda adds a whole new trauma to the pile. 🤣🤣
Thank God Superman was raised by actual people.
Either way, it would be slightly less of a problem since there's cryptonite and red light to "nerf" him, in case things go wrong. But Homelander is really kinda immortal
@@francescacastronovo647Meh, Kryptonite has remained really inconsistent throughout multiple comics and media. He’s only as strong as the writers will make him out to be much like with many other superheroes. I still think Superman on his worst day is more powerful than Homelander on his best days lol
I’ve never seen the show but I’ve seen enough clips to know when Homelander starts smiling, someone bout to have a bad day.
This was a creepy ass episode man
Fr disturbed the hell out of me
Man I would've done the same if I was homelander except without the humility part
Read the comics and see how mellow the show is compared 😂
@@Sifu420 nah nah trust I know 😂
@@Sifu420 i have, doesn’t change how i felt about the episode
Vaas and homelander are the only people who can say “ water under the bridge” SO EVIIIL
"Shucking a Mushroom" and "More Spit Marty" is Wild.
You know they could have still gotten all their testing and still had a good hero by simply treating him differently. Instead of acting like they were on charge and forcing him to do things, they could have had him grow with his powers on his own. Let him take the challenge of withstanding the heat on his own. Let him be in control of how much he takes rather than people forcing his limits over and over. That's how you break someone. Its just crazy that none of them stopped to think that maybe they were raising a super powered child wrong, and then it came back to bite them in the ass when that child ended up turning into a monster from all that trauma. While all of this is completely messed up, it is not undeserved.
Majority of people think about the now and are sociopath
The woman still explain that the only way they could control Homelander was to psychologically manipulate him to be dependent on people loving him which is why his other personality/personalities told him to go there to break that control.
They do this similarly to kids in care. I have BPD and it went undiagnosed at the time. If I raised my voice they would pin me to the floor with their whole body weight and restrain me. I was 10. They've literally made me a sociopath.
I actually had that thought. Like “homelander. The bosses wanna know how durable you are to fire and what effect it’ll have on you so we gotta put you into the oven. However, at ANY time that you think you can’t handle it, I’ll shut it down and pull you out okay?”
@@zikonrokarminrot636 They had to make him think they didn’t fear him and made them seem like they have control over him or else it’d be like a Brightburn situation, He didn’t value anyone live because he saw himself superior. Something also referenced in Chronicle, an Apex predator has no predator and him killing humans doesn’t affect him like you stepping on an ant. Really they could only delay the inevitable.
Pretty messed up but honestly satisfying and reminded of Brightburn.
Brightburn was never tortured yet killed innocent people
@@TheEnigmaticBM39he was bullied plus he still WAS a kid
@@yamete1729 How high were you to think homelander and brightburns childhood were even remotely comparable?😐
@@yamete1729I’m pretty sure brightburn wasn’t bullied. He lived a pretty solid life until he came across his ship and tested his powers. That one girl only dropped him because he did technically spy on her.
@@yamete1729Brightburn was never bullied. Just a narcissist, immature piece of garbage who throws rage tantrums whenever things dont go his way 😄
Homelander took notes from Joffrey on this one 😂
Starr is very expressive with his gazes. He really gives life to homelander character
It’s amazing how right at the 8 second mark you can see Marty’s face change when he remembers how he treated Homelander. He knew it was too late to fix anything, incredible acting
I like ld this, because its simultaneously making him sympathetic, while also fully leaning into his psychopathy, he was made into a monster, but he still is a monster regardless
"the boys is peak"
The peak in question:
Karma is a bitch . The old “ I was just following orders” is not a valid reason for any of the bad you do to another life form😒
Especially if they enjoyed it thoroughly
What if some of them were new to the job and the field in general, like fresh college graduates or something?
We know vought is evil because we as viewers have inside knowledge, but in their universe from the outside I could maybe see a company like vought being like a dream company for a stem major
@@hell1942imo they would be killed or silenced like real life
Does this ring true to soldiers and other forms of authority? I would hope...
Unfortunately people only notice when others are doing it, for example Americans treated the middle east like a roach infestation even though we're responsible for the current state of that place @TheEnigmaticBM39
The whole set on scenes in here are brilliant, you don’t know who will die when or how and there’s these lulls where he’s being friendly and then you’ll get a line like “just stay there a minute” and you know that guy’s doomed
The slow realization on Marty’s face when he starts to remember what Homelander was talking about
Famous quote"THE EVIL YOU CREATE WILL ULTIMATELY DESTROY YOU".
"I was only doing my job" Neither Frank or Marty cared about torturing a child, Marty even find it funny and named Homelander squirt (that shlt had me tho 😅) they were monsters creating an even worse monster, they had it coming.
Homelander abusers were legit trolls he really did learn from the best😭
I haven't seen 4 yet, but my guess is that they molested him too
Did they actually think he would just let what they did to him go??
Yes because the writing is increasing garbage because there obsessed with racial/ideological/activist bs spew then good writing.
Fr, how do you torture something physically and mentally, literally raise it to be a monster, give it superpowers, and not expect it to get revenge
"Something?" "It?" you're only proving his point on y HE jus did what HE did 😂
@@blackbanjo45 exactly
He would've if shit didn't start falling around him and things just went as normal
Honestly i was with homelander on this one
That's fucked
R u a psychopath also
. Torturing kids has bad results. Especially if that kid is a supe
Facts they created a psychopath
Not the other people who didn't have anything to do with it
He’s getting revenge. Also he didn’t kill him with his heat ray. Go homelander. You’re the real hero
What about the people who didn't work there when he was being tortured there?
"and then I think I'm gonna feel better" describes his character so well
I'm not going to lie homelander was already my favorite character in the show but he might be the top or in the top three TV show / movie villains ever. I mean there's something f****** special about his performance as homelander. He's phenomenal homelander is like the epitome of the perfect villain almost with so many insecurities and the childhood trauma mix with the power of a god, Anthony Starr really nailed homelander to perfection
Imagine if Marty was weilding an absolute Mjolnir.
"Guess I see why they don't call you squirt"
It's never done with homelander, until you are punished or die😂
I like how he can remember the way he was torture to the very last detail but when was on that plane he forgot he could fly
He's still a bad person and that shows
Honestly for this one time I felt that Homielander is completely in the right
Idk why but whenever homelander gets his revenge on the scientist “just doing their job” I love it
Love how he shakes his head no when saying he's sorry he's not sorry at all
No, he's shaking his head because he foresees how this is all going to play out.
@@nichevo1 👍🏻oh true, I've been watching to many interrogation videos lol
@@synl8847 I know about tells and stuff, But at this point, maybe, I would practically be disassociating from the conversation with homelander. I would have had the spark of memory triggered by his remark and I would, if I were insightful, be thinking about the long train of injuries I and we had all laid upon him, and I would be feeling very guilty and sad and remorseful at that moment. (Assuming of course he had any sort of insight or had gained any in the 20 or 30 years he had been there.)
I must confess that I haven't followed the show from its origin, only seeing YT clips, but it seems to be a story originating in World War II biotechnology? So this is what, the '70s or '80s in America? Post-Soviet? Today? I mean who were the fathers and grandfathers if Soldier Boy was Homelander's father? Where is the rest of the world at, just abject subjects to an America flush with the power of supes? Who else has supes projects?
I don’t know why you’d even bother when you know he’s gonna kill you anyway 😂
Hope is a dangerous thing
He can do worse than kill you, he can torture you, or kill your family and feed them to you.
Or he might let you walk. We the audience know he won't, but they don't know it. He kept a lot of stuff secret.
Monsters aren't born they are made
Some people are just born bad. They are rare but they are out there
HL killed his own mum and a couple of scientists as he was being born.... I dunno, seems pretty monstrous to me.
Um, Psychopathy (bpd that's inherited)
@@Manderennthey were made that way in the womb
Bro came out by lasering her mother and subsequently kept killing her baby sitters and nurses
You're not sorry, _you're scared._
Real ones know Homelander is decently well adjusted given his upbringing, power level, and financial backing.
Homelander was genuinely his true self in this episode, he knew nobody was leaving the room so he didn't have to hold up appearance.
Never mess with a child which can turn into a monster in the future.
"never mess with a child who can fly, lift a car like a hotwheel and shoot lasers from his eyes" FTFY
Could you imagine being in a position like this? There’s nothing scarier than Homelander light heartedly telling you that you hurt his feelings 😮
Ngl, this one actually makes me chuckle. Me and homelander rarely see eye to eye, but this one 😂😂😂😂
The stages of grief before they die. 😂
"I am VERY sorry." -- yes, I would imagine you are.
Stepping on Marty head to finish him, I really didn’t expect that, I literally put my hands over my mouth in shock, The Boys really something
Believing Homelander when he says “water under the bridge” should be the last thing you do 💀
This scene really goes to show how much context can change the way you view a situation, even if you end up at the same conclusion. Homelander evil? Yes. Justified? Absolutely not. You can't justify a wrong with others wrongs. Thats not how it works
But did my heart break for him and instantly did I understand him? More than words can even say. But as i saw in another comment, as much heartbreak as I feel for the boy who was experimented on, hes a grown man now and he's made his choice. He must be stopped.
Now thats a great villain. Hurt people, hurt people.
The second he stepped out of that elevator, you just knew some sinister things were about to happen 😂
“Honestly homelander just kill me that was funny as fuck”
I like how homelander shows him what it's like good old fashioned revenge
The teacher punishing a student for making fun of another class mate 😂
"And that's when you nicknamed me squirt" 😂😂
The fact Homelander didn't exact his revenge at a much earlier age was the only source of relief these guys got unintentionally from him before he got his revenge
So sick, yet so entertaining. Great show!
I feel for homelander because you know nobody’s sorry, nobody genuinely likes you, they’re all terrified of you and secretly hate you. Can you blame him?
Homelanders side look was so funny
When Homie said "you really hurt my feelings" he stared at him like never before, truly terrifying
This is the one scene...im proud of Homelander👏👍
Inside out irl if psychopath just kills all other emotions in homelander's head
"Iam VERRY SORRY" Lil bro thought thats gonna work☠️💀
who would of thought the kid you made fun of became an emotionally unstable killing machine, I wouldn't
Notice how Marty shakes his head sideways when says he’s sorry
Imagine the fear factor in that room. HL completely paralyzed them in fear. They know that they are going to die, and there's nothing they can do but obey his every command🫤
What’s frightening about homelander is that you know your dead, you just don’t know your going to die.
Marty’s nervous smiles are pretty funny
This scene really shows how these people treated homelander when he was in his childhood and now he will treat them the same way they did to him
Let's be honest, this makes homelander extremely relatable. We all wanted to do something like this at one point or another
THE JOKES ON YOU HOMEOWNER! I get off on that kind of thing!
See that would've be the the last ace up his sleeve...🤣
Homelander is one of the best villains ever
toni star's acting on this episode is phenominal
The way they say sorry just screams dishonesty
The oven guy got the easiest death from all people in that room
He knew he was screwed when homelander said "stay there for a second"
Homelander been zesty this whole season. 😂 man is a menace
The homelander actor deserves all the awards.
This is vindication for him. Sweet sweet retribution
Homelander is crazy 👿👿👿👿
I think he did this because he was just bored with his present so he went back to his past for some catharsis
It's genuinely wild that they see what homelander does and not think "maybe I should quit torture homelander industries'"
Homelander has come completely unhinged in this season I see.
The ending was cathartic for him
Imagine if Superman was treated like a lab rat. He would be just like homelander 💀
The laughing would feel so forced with Homelander there to possibly end you just for not laughing 💀
Imagine Marty just drops his pants n goes to town without problems like it's just another Tuesday.
Homelander is the absolute definition of evil. He's the only victim, and no one else has gone through or suffered in life other than him.
पिचकारि scene 😂😂the creative liberty given to hindi dubbing is just awesome ..
Havent seen it
But did anyone in that room survive the night 😂
Pretty sure only the women
Only Barbara
@@agames5478she wasn’t in the room at the time
@@dizzy6334she was, but homelander offscreen killed everyone except her in that room and locked her with dead bodies
It's Homelander; what do you think?
“Jokes on you……I enjoy an audience”
Homelander on his freaky arc this season
Homelander getting payback is sweet.
They really never saw what happens to bulllies when the nerds run the block
Homelander is the best and most relatable character in the series. Especially if you've known any kind of trauma or basically lived an unsheltered life....
He really did Paul Heyman dirty.
-first day of work as a janitor- "uuh mister homelander, its my first day, im a janitor"
-homelander just laser eyes me-