That did not happen once in this video, though "JUUUUDGE my opponent misclicked into a suboptimal line force them to make that play NOW" is not better.
@@delta3244 well i'm talking about the altergeist thing. i know that technically the links care about zones but i don't thinks it's even possible to make them without your normal summon so it wouldn't matter where you summon anyways
So because cards like the mekk-knights exists, obviously column placement of cards can matter. However, unless there is some super spicy column tech for alterguist I am unaware of, or if the opponent was on something like mekk-knight, column placement(for the monsters at least) means practically nothing.
The main Altergeist link points down and needs to point to a geist, so it's actually quite relevant here. Assuming red could make Hexstia without using said Marionetter, which is still suspect but technically possible.
For the misplay and misclick one I can understand both what Red was thinking and how Coder ruled it as I probably would have done the same thing red did because you can't exactly say for sure something really is a misclick in the current scenario but it also could have which is what Coder sounded like he was saying and red accepted it as such. My own thing however wouldn't be that turning a misclick into a misplay is something that always revolves around someone gaining much more of an advantage as it would be the context of the play. (So if say Blue summoned a different monster after the takeback even if that new monster gains a better advantage, I would still stick to that being a misclick pretty much.) Red did what they did only because Blue placed a field and then summoned which looks a lot more like a misplay, even if it was first accepted as a misclick. It's just that it was accepted without the full knowledge of what was being played and they still also summoned the misclicked monster after the field was used.
The only way to judge misclick vs. misplay is the time involved. If you accidentally play the wrong monster then you will immediately return it. If you change your mind about what play to make, it will take a few seconds to realize that wasn't right. Something like this sequencing error could easily be a misclick if it was corrected quickly. Or even if that particular click was intentional, it could be something like they quickly clicked to activate the field spell and then normal summon, but misclicking the field activation and having it not actually activate.
Your opinion is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is. Blue said misclick, red said sure take it back. That's literally the only thing that matters. Because in Red saying it's fine, means that red is okay with the scenario. Then haveing a different play after wards, is 100% on red. You cannot change your mind after tou have said it's okay. It was 100% a missplay and not a misclick. But that is irrelevant.
You only play in DB if you have enough people respectable enough to play with, i dont even do rando duels on DB since i know it will end up either neutral or a disaster. At least if its between friends or a community its okay.
I'm not convinced that dino situation was a misclick, as you have to choose the zone for the monster as well, which would require more clicks. For me, it was definitely a misplay
@@Sassaparilla I would like to add a DLC to that list if you don't mind. "Good Game!" would be the fourth, and "Have a Nice Day" would need to count all of the variants of that phrase in order to be second. I believe he always said "Hi, issue?" without fail, but not always the end phrase because "Have a Good Day" sometimes comes up instead, or the editor cuts out on Coder saying that.
I still fail to see how the zone the Marionetter was in mattered? It was the first monster played and would 100% be useless in every way of what the follow up was.
I really do thing the ovi raptor summon is a misplay and not a misclick even though I understand where coder is coming from. Cause I find it hard to believed that you can misclick to summon a monster instead of activating a field spell.
True, but once the opponent allowed it to be taken back it's out of the judges hands. The opponent can't just change his mind once he sees what the real play was.
See, that conclave ruling makes sense when Coder explains it, but i thought it would be like the Generaider trap where once per turn you can change the effect targeting a Generaider. In Master Duel, the effect can be used immediately upon activation and becomes part of the same link, so i figured it would be the same thing. Is it different because it costs the card or am I missing something?
You can activate the effect of a continuous trap immediately upon flipping it face up, but you don't have to unless it's mandatory. However, this trap has an effect that specifies that you need to send "this face up card" for cost to activate the effect. It's not face up when activating the card, so clearly you can't activate that effect at the time you flip it up. You can't activate it later in the same chain either, because while it's face up now, when you activate a continuous spell/trap card they do not have any of their effects until their activation resolves (that's also why macro cosmos doesn't banish anything that's send to the GY in the chain you activate it but before it resolves). So if you're activating crystal conclave, you can either activate it and use its first effect or you can activate it without an effect, but you can't use the second effect because you can't pay the cost (in case of a continuous trap card with multiple effects you can only ever use one effect at a time when activating btw, although usually the cards are written in such a way that that's clear).
@@megamachopop that is exactly the reason. You need to make the choice which (if any) effect to activate before even starting the activation procedure, at which point the trap is still face down. Since you can't pay the cost at time of activation, you can't choose the quick effect of conclave if conclave is still face down.
its as simple as misclick is and illegal move and a miss play is a legal chain of events just " not in your prefered order" you dont get to move your chess piece back once its moved
just dueled someone using runicks, and they misclicked a monster into defense when he had game. too bad they didn't have any cards left in their deck for a second try lmfao
“Misclick” and mis plays should never even be looked at by a judge. If you’re playing in real life in person. And you play the wrong card you can go judge I missed up. This is dumb. If they made the wrong move that’s their fault. It should never even be considered to be a replay
So I guess my question I's. After two players communicate like so with ovi. Could the opponent saying sure, not think the other player was lieing, about it being a missclick.
Hi Distant, there is a problem with judges on DB. At least My the last 10 judge calls I have Made, no one answered. I just want to check how to solve that problem, or at least when Ford judges are not connected to not play during that time.
funny vid, quick question where did you get the geargiano shirt. after buying the retrocember hoodie and not giving a fuck what my work thinks of what i wear i want more clothing like it
Summoning a monster should **NEVER** be considered a missclick, as it requires two clicks. You also have to select the zone to summon to. It's literally nearly impossible to think you're playing a field spell, to then select the middle zone to summon a monster to.
I feel like Coder has ruled the whole missclick thing different earlier, saying that if you first return it to hand before saying "missclick", it's not a missclick.
He absolutely has. He has made contradictory rulings many times and will defend it as "but the context". Sometimes it matters, other times it's blatantly inconsistent.
I mean if by your same logic, if the zone it was summoned to on the "miss-click" didn't matter then why does it matter what zone he then "fixes" it to?🤔
Altergeist has Hexstia, which is a negate but has to tribute something it points to (downwards). Hexstia also has an ATK boost depending on what it is pointing to.
@@liloldman5998 yeah I know, that's why I'm saying, him moving it was more of a missplay than a missclick since it would benefit him more to have like you said put it in a link adjacent zone. So Coder deciding to let it slide instead of of opp having to play it out is a mistake
I disagree with making someone clarify *before* correcting the misclick. That can takes extra time especially if someone is a slow typer and give fuel to the shark.
the missplay thing is so dumb. were they expecting a WORSE play? how does that make any sense haha of course a missclick will be worse than doing what you meant to do.
@@HALOMAN2X20 I'm just confused about something, couldn't it be that both cards were together and they missclicked the monster? I recall you not being able to cancel a summon once you get to the zone selection part, so them summoning and immediately taking it back would kinda make sense if that wasn't their intention.
@@TWLSpark you can go back to the lost world or another monster to summon a different monster in dueling book before clicking monster zone to summon. If you click normal summon you aren't locked into it like edopro
So I can make misplays all I want in DB, but as long as I say "misclick" as soon as I catch myself, I'm allowed to take it back and alter my plays? Good to know.
Yugioh has some degenerate players. Well all games do. But it’s like some people would rather waste hours of their time over a game loss. It’s never that serious
Correct if I'm wrong on this but if that Altergeist duelist plays the haunted rock trap card for the combo, the position of Marionetter matters because it gives the Hexstia a attack boost and ammo for negate as Hexstia points down.
Like coder said a missclick correction into a better or superior play does not make it a missplay especially when he corrected it immediately without a second thought. This indicates he knew what he was doing and what he intended to do from the beginning and wasn't an afterthought.
We need an extended video of all the judge calls of 2022, I’d love to rewatch it all.
This exactly ^
Just Watch the vod on Twitch
@@riperkiller9787 I dont think you read this correctly
There’s a playlist
Best of 2022
Ovi summon is 100% a misplay. The other player saying "sure" was also a misplay 😂
If your oppo lets you take back your missplay it's on them haha
feel like the dino player self reported when he said "do you really think i'm stupid enough to not use lost world here?". Yes, yes i do
@user-pb8sh3yb1k Either way, the opponent allowed it, and then tried to take it back when they realized it wasn't as good for them that way
JUUUUDGE my opponent changed a completely irrelevant thing punish him NOW.
That did not happen once in this video, though "JUUUUDGE my opponent misclicked into a suboptimal line force them to make that play NOW" is not better.
@@delta3244 well i'm talking about the altergeist thing. i know that technically the links care about zones but i don't thinks it's even possible to make them without your normal summon so it wouldn't matter where you summon anyways
Coder yelling "HI, ISSUE?!" into the microphone is almost as funny as some of the clowns on the program to me, idk why lol
You know it’s gotten bad when Coder breaks out the shark hat
So because cards like the mekk-knights exists, obviously column placement of cards can matter. However, unless there is some super spicy column tech for alterguist I am unaware of, or if the opponent was on something like mekk-knight, column placement(for the monsters at least) means practically nothing.
The main Altergeist link points down and needs to point to a geist, so it's actually quite relevant here. Assuming red could make Hexstia without using said Marionetter, which is still suspect but technically possible.
@@TheDocperian Yeah, Links in general open up quite a few cases of column placement mattering
@@TheDocperian I mean, even with pookuery how would you get another geist for the link summon? Do you play double summon in Altergeist? xD
He could be running blasting fuse.
@@Jerry4281 Yeah of course, best trap evah, who doesn't run it
For the misplay and misclick one I can understand both what Red was thinking and how Coder ruled it as I probably would have done the same thing red did because you can't exactly say for sure something really is a misclick in the current scenario but it also could have which is what Coder sounded like he was saying and red accepted it as such.
My own thing however wouldn't be that turning a misclick into a misplay is something that always revolves around someone gaining much more of an advantage as it would be the context of the play. (So if say Blue summoned a different monster after the takeback even if that new monster gains a better advantage, I would still stick to that being a misclick pretty much.) Red did what they did only because Blue placed a field and then summoned which looks a lot more like a misplay, even if it was first accepted as a misclick. It's just that it was accepted without the full knowledge of what was being played and they still also summoned the misclicked monster after the field was used.
The only way to judge misclick vs. misplay is the time involved. If you accidentally play the wrong monster then you will immediately return it. If you change your mind about what play to make, it will take a few seconds to realize that wasn't right. Something like this sequencing error could easily be a misclick if it was corrected quickly. Or even if that particular click was intentional, it could be something like they quickly clicked to activate the field spell and then normal summon, but misclicking the field activation and having it not actually activate.
Your opinion is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is. Blue said misclick, red said sure take it back. That's literally the only thing that matters. Because in Red saying it's fine, means that red is okay with the scenario. Then haveing a different play after wards, is 100% on red. You cannot change your mind after tou have said it's okay. It was 100% a missplay and not a misclick. But that is irrelevant.
This is why I don't play in duels that often on DB.
You only play in DB if you have enough people respectable enough to play with, i dont even do rando duels on DB since i know it will end up either neutral or a disaster. At least if its between friends or a community its okay.
This was the chilliest episode of judge calls ever, no appeal, everyone understood the issue, too good to be true.
I love how you act like a reasonable human being when making these judge calls.
I'm not convinced that dino situation was a misclick, as you have to choose the zone for the monster as well, which would require more clicks. For me, it was definitely a misplay
it probably was but once the opponent allowed it the case is closed. It being a misplay doesn't matter any more at that point
I am experiencing a feeling of Déjà vu...
9:53 This is so true actually, I can't even _tell_ you how many times I've summoned kerass into bearbrumm's diagonal zone.
Man you need to do judge calls every day they're my favorite content 😂
Hey coder! hope your feeling alright and thanks so much for taking the time to make us happy!
Being a judge is a total headache. I did it for a while back when it was dueling network and some people
Sometimes when ur hungry and haven't eaten all day ur brain shuts down like that last call and things like this happen.
10:50 Thats a fine example of rule sharking right there.
JUDGE CALLLSSSSSS 2023 STARTING OFF WITH A FKN BANGER, (yes my year only just started)
there's no other content on the internet like coder judge calls man
What do you do? You play floodgates!
The most said line in the Distant Coder-verse.
@@duelmasteryuya1205 "Hi, Issue?" or "Have a Nice Day" third and second respectfully?
@@Sassaparilla I would like to add a DLC to that list if you don't mind. "Good Game!" would be the fourth, and "Have a Nice Day" would need to count all of the variants of that phrase in order to be second. I believe he always said "Hi, issue?" without fail, but not always the end phrase because "Have a Good Day" sometimes comes up instead, or the editor cuts out on Coder saying that.
Time for sussy shark
Amogushark
I just learned something completely new today I did not know you can play speed duels on that
I still fail to see how the zone the Marionetter was in mattered? It was the first monster played and would 100% be useless in every way of what the follow up was.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 finally a good intro preview that wasn't immediately after the intro, that's was way nicer
If the oviraptor was a missclick then why did he click the monster zone after summon.
It really doesn't matter. He said misclick and opponent agreed. The opponent agreeing is all that matters here.
I really do thing the ovi raptor summon is a misplay and not a misclick even though I understand where coder is coming from.
Cause I find it hard to believed that you can misclick to summon a monster instead of activating a field spell.
True, but once the opponent allowed it to be taken back it's out of the judges hands. The opponent can't just change his mind once he sees what the real play was.
I love your advanced translation gear very high tech sharking technology
Everytime he whips out the shark hat, I'm dead xD
As someone that knows nothing about yugioh I'm still really enjoying all of these judge videos XD
That shark hat has to be cider best investment.
We need a black hoodie with the DC logo and just "Have a Nice Day" in white lol
Shark swims into chat: jadge op summoned wrong zone
Larger more sexually appealing Shark enters: no (Gigachad face)
See, that conclave ruling makes sense when Coder explains it, but i thought it would be like the Generaider trap where once per turn you can change the effect targeting a Generaider. In Master Duel, the effect can be used immediately upon activation and becomes part of the same link, so i figured it would be the same thing. Is it different because it costs the card or am I missing something?
You can activate the effect of a continuous trap immediately upon flipping it face up, but you don't have to unless it's mandatory.
However, this trap has an effect that specifies that you need to send "this face up card" for cost to activate the effect. It's not face up when activating the card, so clearly you can't activate that effect at the time you flip it up. You can't activate it later in the same chain either, because while it's face up now, when you activate a continuous spell/trap card they do not have any of their effects until their activation resolves (that's also why macro cosmos doesn't banish anything that's send to the GY in the chain you activate it but before it resolves).
So if you're activating crystal conclave, you can either activate it and use its first effect or you can activate it without an effect, but you can't use the second effect because you can't pay the cost (in case of a continuous trap card with multiple effects you can only ever use one effect at a time when activating btw, although usually the cards are written in such a way that that's clear).
@@hannessteffenhagen61 The Trap is absolutely face-up as soon as it's activated. That's just untrue.
@@megamachopop it's not face up when you activate it, it's face up after you activate it.
@@hannessteffenhagen61 It's face-up at activation. That's not the reason the effect can't be activated.
@@megamachopop that is exactly the reason. You need to make the choice which (if any) effect to activate before even starting the activation procedure, at which point the trap is still face down. Since you can't pay the cost at time of activation, you can't choose the quick effect of conclave if conclave is still face down.
You've gotta love the shark hat.
For some reason, I am seeing "Tony Stark"/Iron Man in you thanks to your mustache.
Me sitting here with my popcorn waiting for the superheavyweight samurai videos
This guy it's the definition of the meme "YOU CLICKED!👉 "
I need a shark hat like that for that
bro please PLEASE coder or someone else tell me WHERE DID HE GET THIS DOPE CREWNECK
Gotta love precedents
So this is what he meant with "daily updates"
its as simple as misclick is and illegal move and a miss play is a legal chain of events just " not in your prefered order" you dont get to move your chess piece back once its moved
Nope
misclicks are certainly not always illegal
@@abitofsupport601 thats true
@@abitofsupport601 imo a misclick that is a legal move should not be allowed to take back the move
@@jarondail809 The reasons misclicks are allowed to be taken back is they realistically wouldn't have happened in the physical game.
i need to know where you got that Shark Hat from
The shark cap was glorious
just dueled someone using runicks, and they misclicked a monster into defense when he had game. too bad they didn't have any cards left in their deck for a second try lmfao
Just wondering, why is his DB looking so cool? Is this some kind of extension or Update I missed??
Yo. Where did coder get that geargia sweatshirt? Does anyone know?
day 1: I know gem knight aren’t in meta but can you make a list that can sorta “compete” in the meta
“Misclick” and mis plays should never even be looked at by a judge. If you’re playing in real life in person. And you play the wrong card you can go judge I missed up. This is dumb. If they made the wrong move that’s their fault. It should never even be considered to be a replay
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if only masterduel is a best of 3 format, clearly it will be the best duel simulator
So I guess my question I's. After two players communicate like so with ovi.
Could the opponent saying sure, not think the other player was lieing, about it being a missclick.
If they thought they were lying, they should have stopped them as soon as they did the play and declared misclick instead of allowing it.
@@12thLevelSithLord I think they thought they misclick and summon the wrong monster. But then it turns out to be a field spell instead.
Hi Distant, there is a problem with judges on DB. At least My the last 10 judge calls I have Made, no one answered. I just want to check how to solve that problem, or at least when Ford judges are not connected to not play during that time.
god i missed these. been missing his streams lately too :(
funny vid, quick question where did you get the geargiano shirt. after buying the retrocember hoodie and not giving a fuck what my work thinks of what i wear i want more clothing like it
so where is the "day 1 shark" video? xD
I play Mekk but care less about columns than that last player.
POGGIES another calls vid
Does concave really gotta be face up? Scareclaw sclash also says "send this face up card to grave" but you can still send it upon activation.
No you can't. This is why Scareclaw players have to shotgun the Sclash in either DP or SP.
@@12laus As someone who has played with the claws that are scary in master duel before, I can confirm I have been cooked by this mistake before.
That dino player did not misclick but okay
Summoning a monster should **NEVER** be considered a missclick, as it requires two clicks. You also have to select the zone to summon to. It's literally nearly impossible to think you're playing a field spell, to then select the middle zone to summon a monster to.
Bro where did you get that sweater
I feel like Coder has ruled the whole missclick thing different earlier, saying that if you first return it to hand before saying "missclick", it's not a missclick.
Yeah I think the crux of it is trying to post hoc make it into a misplay after you let it slide previously.
He absolutely has. He has made contradictory rulings many times and will defend it as "but the context". Sometimes it matters, other times it's blatantly inconsistent.
Somehow, neither of the players in that first call were NASTY *OR* CHEAT!
Love these
I mean if by your same logic, if the zone it was summoned to on the "miss-click" didn't matter then why does it matter what zone he then "fixes" it to?🤔
Altergeist has Hexstia, which is a negate but has to tribute something it points to (downwards). Hexstia also has an ATK boost depending on what it is pointing to.
@@liloldman5998 yeah I know, that's why I'm saying, him moving it was more of a missplay than a missclick since it would benefit him more to have like you said put it in a link adjacent zone. So Coder deciding to let it slide instead of of opp having to play it out is a mistake
I disagree with making someone clarify *before* correcting the misclick. That can takes extra time especially if someone is a slow typer and give fuel to the shark.
Even for a slow typer, typing Misclick shouldn't take longer than 3 - 5 seconds.
Yeah, the one with the ovi feels kinda wrong. The "sure" comment was kindness taken-advantage-of.
finally more calls :D
Take a shot everytime "misclick(ed)" is said
I NEED THAT SWEATER YO
I need that shark hat
This series makes DB look like a super toxic place (I’ve never played it).
Lmao Kevin is so funny😂
Is this the video that got taken down yesterday?
Wait what- It got taken down? But yes, it is
ngl modding DB seems like a nightmare
the missplay thing is so dumb. were they expecting a WORSE play? how does that make any sense haha of course a missclick will be worse than doing what you meant to do.
@@HALOMAN2X20 I'm just confused about something, couldn't it be that both cards were together and they missclicked the monster? I recall you not being able to cancel a summon once you get to the zone selection part, so them summoning and immediately taking it back would kinda make sense if that wasn't their intention.
@@TWLSpark you can go back to the lost world or another monster to summon a different monster in dueling book before clicking monster zone to summon. If you click normal summon you aren't locked into it like edopro
@@Unknown-xr1iz Ahh, that's what was confusing me. Thank you.
Where is this Yu-Gi-Oh played? It's not Nexus so I'm kinda curious
Shark hat !
It's been a while
O.o I'm pretty sure you ended up hiding one of my duels xD
Dueling book is so toxic man
So I can make misplays all I want in DB, but as long as I say "misclick" as soon as I catch myself, I'm allowed to take it back and alter my plays? Good to know.
Assuming you catch it in 1 second or your opponent allows it, yes.
🦈 moment
God dueling books sounds like cancer ngl :P
Ovi summon is 100% not a misclick because it takes two clicks to put Ovi on board (NS and zone placement) but the other guy messed up by allowing it.
Reupload?
Its funny bc the marionetter is clearly in a worse spot AFTER the moving lmao
The geist link that points down makes it a worse spot?
Yugioh has some degenerate players. Well all games do. But it’s like some people would rather waste hours of their time over a game loss. It’s never that serious
Correct if I'm wrong on this but if that Altergeist duelist plays the haunted rock trap card for the combo, the position of Marionetter matters because it gives the Hexstia a attack boost and ammo for negate as Hexstia points down.
Yes, but even though it matters if you correct something minor like this 0.1s later it's not a problem...
Like coder said a missclick correction into a better or superior play does not make it a missplay especially when he corrected it immediately without a second thought. This indicates he knew what he was doing and what he intended to do from the beginning and wasn't an afterthought.
Please daddy distantcoder please
I disagree your call. He missed up and and then redid his play. You just can’t do that. That was a horrible call on your part judge
Day 3 of asking Coder to play Heraldic Beasts on Master Duel #Based
"missclick"
DB is so toxic 😂
yoo
What a mess of a platform. Glad db is dying.
Obviously a Trump appointed judge.
Your shirt is dope drop the link daddy