We probably won't see Mr. Atkinson till after the new year. This is their time to bond and enjoy parenthood. I wish them all of the blessings and a wonderful holiday season with their new addition.
Hope isn't giving Carter good advice. She's encouraging him to do things that could get him fired. She's really not in a good place emotionally and shouldn't be in any relationship with anyone until she figures out what's going on with her.
They took a survey apparently 80% of fans felt Hope deserved to be Fired ! She has been down right disrespectful for quite a while actually thinks She and her Mother is entitled to the company she is delusional🤪 all she did was dream of other men instead of working on the Line
Why isn't Steffy and Ridge answering the question, that Hope raised?? She asked, how could she have possibly know that Fin would show up in that office, at that exact time? Its a great point!!! What is their theory on that? Why did they completely ignore that question????
Finn going to look so stupid when the truth comes out about steffy kissing Liam twice and it’s going to come out because Liam told his brother which is a Logan also and he’s going to tell his mother Katie
Im so sick of Brooke and Ridge both, Brooke entitled and dishonest, Ridge waffling and weak, neither found it necessary to sit Hope and Steffy down all together telling them to stop the nonsense
Thats right. No matter how steffy feels about hope her clothing line was failing 😮so the bottom line shouldn't be about steffy it should be that RJ and Zende was No help in bringing life back into hope's line🤦♀️🤷♀️. Dumb Carter is being played by hope to stand against the Forrester's bc she wants pay back. ..carter is a wimp with hope 😮
@brendabyrd668 RJ has no experience and a few weeks training from Eric. Did they really expect the line to be what it was with a trained designer like Thomas? Zenda, did his best but still not the designer Thomas is so ...
Yes Taylor should stay out of it,she obviously doesn’t have nothing to do with it,why she doesn’t go to work,Maybe they found out she not the doctor to help them since she is pathetic and can’t manage her own life.
Im not feeling Carter and Hope as a couple at all but im all for Hope being away from Forrester, the possibilities for Hope's character are endless now, so as creating a rival fashion brand
Oh you must miss the external because Tommy boy's internal was as shallow as a grave...The writers were foolish to pair Hope with such a insensitive jerk in the first place who just like all the other Forresters had to control the narrative according to his fragile ego ..
@@darnellanders8768 Thomas has,TRADITIONAL views about marriage & love. That doesn't make him a control freak. He loved Hope with all of him, mind, body & soul. Their sexual relationship only intensified his love for her. He wanted to protect her, give her the world, have more children with her and make her his wife. There are MILLIONS of men in this world that feel the same when they find a woman they love.
I don't get why everyone sees Steffy as a bulley when it's Hope who keeps doing dumb stuff and getting caught, if my mama has caught me twice at the office making out with Carter, there's no way i would be running around in lingerie at work, especially since i am trying to keep mines and Carter relationship a secret.Hope needs to grow up and stop running to mama Everytime she messes up and own up to her mistakes and stop playing the victim in every situation when she get caught and stop acting like she's entitled to something just because she wants it.
I agree with everyone this Carter and Hope relationship is not believable how can she claim to be so madly in love with Carter so fast when they have only shared a few kisses ,when for months her and Thomas was hot and heavy and she couldn't tell him she loved him or wanted a life with him, Carter is just a means to and end and if Hope gets what she wants then he out,and want have a job or respect from Ridge or Eric or trust in him anymore.
@@berniecenichols7149 agreed why would anyone believe him after the moves he’s made this week, throwing all his years being with Forrestor Away on a whim with the waffler Girl, Hope who can’t commit to anyone and SUDDENLY she’s in Love with Carter, who a week ago was all in on her Line being CUT, I mean he’s the one who was looking at all the numbers for her Line and even said “it’s not good enough her numbers are not improving and we’re even losing some stores because of this.
Happy Birthday Beylinda 🎉🎂... love your podcast. You should be the writers for B&B ....In my opion I hope to see Bill involved with a new venture with Carter. Luna sorry has to go.... boring. My thing with Steffy is how she fired Hope, really distasteful. Can someone pls explain when Taylor became the new HR or Health Council for Forester 😅. She makes me laugh it had to be done, yes because that way you have your cure when Ridge and Brook fall apart. The best is when she said Hope disrespected Steffy marriage really with a oops fell into Finn and a 5 min kiss..however Steffy sleeping with Liam Hopes Husband at the time was not disrespected to Hopes marriage ... I do think this letting go of Hope will lead to a Forester downfall. ...Is just me or was The Hope situation a mean to a end,a plot from Steffy to break Ridge and Broke and firing Hope was a bonus??? Thoughts
Hope cannot stand on her own. She runs and cries to her momma when she gets into a mess. Now Carter is her knight in shining armor! What a big cry baby! Waaaa! 👶
Oh bla bla bla Your just bias another flying 🐒 monkey for the entitled arrogant who are all about dominance and controlling the narrative according to their fragile egos...Hope did nothing wrong. . Stuffy ho the crowing 🐓 rooster is full of double standards and hipocracy at it's best.
Congratulations to Matt Atkinson and his wife on the birth of their baby. Real bummer that we still don't know if he's coming back or not. I would hope he could shake up the show. But, he's been gone so long; at this point... I just don't know. 🤷♀️
Yeah he's been gone so long that it doesn't matter. I thought the story line of Thomas and Paris was interesting and could have been developed further especially with Hope being on the outside looking in and remembering the passion that they once shared.
@beverlyanngilbert4794 yes mam it's crazy about 2 weeks ago carter was just on board about HFTF failing now he's in love with hope and plotting revenge on the family and company that has treated him with love,respect and kindness his attitudes about his vision for the company was not accepted as a businesses man you loose some you win some so now he's acting like a complete idiot he's no longer loyal with his sudden change in behavior maybe he never was.
You all what Brooke told ridge what about her legacy belongs to hope but she don’t want ridge legacy to belong to his children Brooke wants ridge to side with her and her daughter and not his own daughter what nerve Brooke 😊
Oh please Belinda... Luna's being the daughter of a homeless man turn rock star was never determined...I still believe Finn's the father.... That would surly rock Stuffy ho the crowing 🐓 roosters world 🌍 to the core along with the henpecked Finn... Nevertheless the rest of your viewpoints are spot on... except that Quinn the territorial wet alley 🐈 cat seduced Carter first supposedly going to Carter on Zoe's behalf yet stabbing her in the back complimenting Carter's physic..
some of you are so not watching the soap right steffi always in Hope face about stay away from my brother ,stay from Liam,say away from my Husband now she is doing just that some of you guys and steffi still have a promblem smh.
Thank you. I had a better feeling for Thomas and Paris. At least there was a past connection between them. Thomas once had feelings for Paris but Carter and Hope makes absolutely no sense at all.
R U Serious...How could Hope love a man who kept her from her daughter never coming forward with the truth... If he had changed he would have at least waited a year before proposing a dozen times.... after all his shenanigans he owed Hope that much who has a forgiving ❤️ heart... Hope has always deserved better than Tommy boy who listens to his wicked sister leaving town with his head between his tail taking Douglas out of a stable environment just to prove a point . Tommy boy isn't half the man Carter is...All the Forrester's are full of double standards and hipocracy at it's best...
@@darnellanders8768 How could Hope love a man who kept her from her daughter? Not easily. But Hope assessed Thomas' involvement in Bathgate. And determined his role in the cover-up was minor as opposed to paris' father, Dr. Buckingham, Felony Flo & Zoe Buckingham. Hope also realized that Thomas was a CHANGED MAN. That he had been mentally impaired & desperate but aftetward, he took full responsibility for his part, went into therapy & had brain surgery. So Hope FORGAVE Thomas. Totally and completely. Then she fell in love with the man who had changed his life for her & his son. Hope total her mother she loved Thomas, & she was SO grateful for him. And she wanted him in her life. Her hesitation about remarrying & commitment had NOTHING to do with Thomas. It was all about what she had been through & her not being ready. It has nothing to do with Thomas. She didn't want marriage. But she loved and wanted HIM.
@@darnellanders8768 Hope went after Thomas while married to Liam. Thomas had kept his promise to stay away from her. SHE is the one who lusted/fantasized about Thomas and I think she used his feelings for him to get what she wants.
I would be very messed up if B&B let Matt go after just getting married and with a kid on the way. It also it’s very smart when his character is very needed.
To be fair, what is Steffy supposed to think? A woman ( who kissed her husband recently) just so happened to have lingerie on and just so happened to slip and fall directly onto her husband's lap? Come on people, thats completely and utterly preposterous ( and somehow true ) There is actually a very old joke about this. " Oh wait. It was an accident? You accidentally tripped and fell on his d***?? B&B writers are a bit ridiculous.
Carter was wrong to tell Hope that FC is her legacy because she’s not a Forrester. Deacons restaurant is Hope’s legacy. FC is Ric and Bridgette’s legacy. They are the only Logans that are entitled to FC because they are Forresters. I don’t understand why the writers are trying to rewrite the show history and give Hope Ric and Bridgette’s legacy.
I read where Liam hears about Steffy Firing Hope because she thought Hope was trying to seduce Finn so the writers think now is maybe a good time for those 2 kisses between Steffy and Liam that happened last year to come out being that Hope and Liam were still married at the time and Liam lets them slip! Carter then files a massive lawsuit for Hope against Forrester creations being that Steffy's relentless attacks against Hope around the office are technically illegal which makes for a hostile work environment and the fact that Hope was wrongfully terminated its possible that Hope could walk away with a majority stake in the company!!!! Idk how true it is but I've read it a couple of times different places either way I know Carter has a plan to get back at Steffy and Ridge for wrongfully firing Hope regardless of her line failing and especially the way they treated her having her escorted out the building so guess we will see which way he goes about it!!! I want to see Steffy get her Karma!!!
Yes Luna is unredeemedable🤦♀️ Unless the writers make luna a twin to a evil twin that has kidnapped the original Luna just like they did with Sheila's evil twin and with Shelia outcome all was forgiven 🤷♀️who knows with these writers🤦♀️🤷♀️Luna was a very sweet likeable young lady 👩just a thought🤔🙄 🤷♀️
I think they love each other like FRIENDS WITH BENEFITS. I believe Hope still deeply in love with Thomas. But since she lost him partly bc she waited so long to say I Love You, she doesn't want that to happen again. So she's telling Carter she loves him a little to soon. Nothing Will Ever be as intense & complicated as her love for Thomas.
You would think that Luna is irredeemable but if Sheila is Luna can be too I suppose. Luna did make a fascinating serial killer & I wouldn't mind having her back. Steffy is a stoned bitch but even so I can see her point when she sees Hope in a negligee all over her husband seeing as that Hope did kiss Fenn at that party and Steffy gave Hope an out by asking if it isn't Fenn who was she expecting and Hope deciding to protect Carter doesn't say anything. That presents a problem for Hope. I understand that Brooke did not tell Ridge about Carter & Hope because Hope begged her not to and she said she would keep her secret so she should and she did. It is ironic that tonight Hope is tellling Carter she loves him after a New York Minute of being together yet Thope fans waiting for the longest time and only heard it when Thomas was breaking up with Hope as a desperate means of keeping him with her. BELYNDA THOUGH CALLED IT RIGHT WHEN SHE PREDICTED THAT CARTER WOULD BE WITH HOPE AND I CAN'T LIE, I DIDN'T LIKE IT AT FIRST BUT I AM WARMING UP TO IT, CARTER IS MORE INTERESTING WHEN HE IS WITH HOPE BECAUSE HE SEEMS TRULY INTO HER AND SHE DOES SEEM INTO HIM TOO, I THINK THEY ARE HOT TOGETHER! I miss Thomas too but the frustration the writers caused ruining Thope repeatedly makes me okay with having Hope with Carter, if Thomas would return and fight for Hope that would be interesting but so far he isn't even returning. Oh and Will and Electra make an absolutely gorgeous couple!!
I keep getting this feeling that Heather Tom whose character is a Logan and Lawrence who character has been loganized are writing for the show and they are about to write it for the Logans to take over FC. That’s why Carter just told Hope that FC is her legacy and Brooke told Ridge that Hope deserves a seat at the table. Carter told Hope that the Logans will no longer be second to the Forresters in that company and he promised that. Which means the writers either Bill Bell leading them is about to rewrite the show history to take down the Forresters for the Logans. I saw something on Google last week that Lawrence said the Carter character isn’t going anywhere and he’s not getting fired from FC. Things aren’t looking good for the Forresters future.
Carter is officially Logantized Ladies and Gentlemen I truly believe that my friends all hope had to say to Steffy and Ridge that she was waiting for Carter not Finn end of story period something tells me that Brooker is going to go to Bill about what is going on she always runs to her ex's im so ready to see Lisa aka Luna this week im so done with the Hope for the future storyline to be honest Jacqui aka Steffy my girl and Annika aka hope is killing it in the storyline why is Will at Forrester he clearly not working just flirting with the ladies I want Electra to cause problems for Katie and Will
Steffi and Taylor: "Don't let the Logans manipulate you." Also Steffi and Taylor: "It's our job is to manipulate you and everyone else.". HFTF was not losing money. That was said. The projections were bad which means they expected a downturn. Maybe the economy is bad in soap opera land too. I'm excited to see how Carter will go at FC.
I am blown away how Hope and Brooke don't throw the fact into Ridges face how many times stank Steffy his daughter went after Liam while Hope and Liam was together. Nothing is ever mentioned.
It's Tali Carter should not fight with Steffy he is not part of the family he is a close friend and there lawyer. How can Brooke plead her case for Hope if she dosen't tell Ridge the truth? That Hope & Carter are seeing each other. It will get messy as usual Thans for the Spoilers Belinda
Carter is such a fool! He has no clue that he is being used. Hope is pretty good at conniving and manipulating Carter. All the fake tears, and playing the victim, and pushing Clueless Carter to get even with the Forresters. And making him believe that they don't appreciate or respect him, that he should do something to get back at them. And look at how fast she was alright as soon as Carter took his shirt off and jumped her bones! She immediately started stripping too. Carter is just going to get himself in trouble and Hope doesn't really give a damn. She is just using him for sex and in her fight with the the Forresters!
I do not know what's going on with this show, but writers r HORRIBLE!!!! this Hope n Finn scene was dumbest ever!!! why would Finn go there to give stephy her tablet??? And why would Hope be in lingerie in the office???? have the rendezvous in bedroom. I feel bad for actors for their scripts! They have turned Stephy into a bully power freak. As far as Brook and Ridge let em split up sooo sick of Ridge!! Finally if they wont bring back Thomas hav actor to go to General Hospital he'd make a terrific Spencer!!!!!!
Hope have problems, she néed to sèe a phÿchartic. Carter has lost his mind letting Hope manipulate him into trying to take Forrester public. Brooke need to stay out of Bill life. Bill need Katie. Lets see Brooke and Shelia fight over Deacon, you know she can't be alone for long.
Brooke is always wanting Ridge to support and side with her. If she cares so much about him, why not tell him that Hopeless was putting on the lingerie for Carter? Then Ridge can have a reason to "support" Brooke and Hopeless. I think Brooke will run to Bill and end up in bed with him and Katie will find out about Hopeless and Carter.
I'll be honest.... I'm over Thomas and Hope.... once they do this to a soap couple - separate them to the extent that viewers think one's been fired - people move on. I think Bell is bringing back Thomas for Hope because the ratings are tanking.... I don't think Bell wants Thomas and Hope - for whatever reason - together.... so now we will have Carter, Hope, Brooke, Katie, Zende and possibly RJ and Rick starting a new company (SpencerLogan) to rival Forrester - only their company will be under the Spencer Umbrella!
While I'm still here for Thope, I can't blame fans for bailing. The years of fans being frustrated w/some of Bell's decisions-hell, it's flat out mistrust at this point-if fans need to let go to find peace/relieve their frustrations, they gotta do what they gotta do. I'm keeping the faith but I don't have that history w/Bell-just started resuming watching B&B about 2 yrs ago. Still, even my current frustrations with this show is impacting how much I watch the old episodes. I can't watch Season 16 because of Sheila because, to me, Sheila's presence, currently, emphasize that Bell has no clue what to do w/her but pay KB to hang around. Meanwhile, Matthew Atkinson, who is a draw, has been MIA & TPTB are not saying what's going on. MA's interviews in June seem to imply Thomas is coming back but I HATE that the suspense of that is in real life, not in the damn scripts!
Why because he's standing up for injustices against the high and mighty entitled arrogant all about dominance and controlling the narrative according to their fragile egos...All the Forrester's are full of double standards and hipocracy at it's best ..Im assuming you are one of those flying 🐒 monkeys rooting for the wicked and twisted...
@@rosieplayer5226The flying 🐒 monkeys rooting for the wicked witch of Malibu are idiots...All the Forrester's are full of double standards and hipocracy at it's best... Carter can take his pitch elsewhere with ease instead of remaining in a stagnated company that rarely have fashion shows ..
I wasn't watching the show at the time but would anybody explain to me the sentence, "Eric gave licence to Carter to bang his wife as a favor to him" because I find this quite baffling.
I read something on Google last month that said Lawrence got hired for Beyond the Gates. So I wonder is this the reason why his character has changed and is going against the Forresters for Hope.
I can see that, it’s just HOW she acts about anything that has to do with Hope, so sorry Brooke your Daughter is and has been in the wrong on so many occasions, she can’t stop lying and now she’s brought Carter into her mess, I am certain she is lying 🤥 about her feelings for him too, it seems forced on both sides
Steffy is lacking a lot of confidence in this "totally committed marriage". She acts like she can't trust Finn around Hope! Can she?? I know if she says "my husband " one more time I'm going to scream!!! She said it 7 times in an episode this week🤨 We know he's your husband Steffy! Come on writers. Expand your dialog.
@@jlynnwarner8170 this entire dialogue lately is so juvenile and I really love Steffy but I need her to stop being mean to everyone else except her Mom and Rigid (he’s a clown 🤡 always coward when it comes to Brooke, does he even know what she has been up to this week)!! Doubt she told him she went to DeCON and filled him in on everything that Happened at Forrestor this week, yet she went Straight to the CON and let him know everything that she (Hope) has been doing
But I highly doubt that she even let Rigid know that piece of information ℹ️ no she’s going to keep her secret to herself so she can keep ridiculing him and for her daughter that’s the problem at the office first and foremost!! Hope hasn’t been doing anything to save her OWN line, except now trying on night gowns for a man that she doesn’t want ANYONE else to know about!!
Yes Eric was all for ending HFTF
We probably won't see Mr. Atkinson till after the new year. This is their time to bond and enjoy parenthood. I wish them all of the blessings and a wonderful holiday season with their new addition.
i do not think he will be back
@@myrad.florence9860 me too blessings to them.
@@ree214 Probably not but we need some closure.
Hope isn't giving Carter good advice. She's encouraging him to do things that could get him fired. She's really not in a good place emotionally and shouldn't be in any relationship with anyone until she figures out what's going on with her.
Congratulations to Thomas and his wife
Anybody else run to this vid after seeing the thumbnail, thinking Thomas was on his way back? 😂😂
Yes! I miss him
@@niecygreen8717 I did the smile on my face🤣🤣
@@niecygreen8717 it's a good thing he's not .. Hope need a real man not Tommy boy...
Happy Birthday Belynda🥳🎉
HAPPY BIRTHDAY BELYNDA
@@andreaexceedsrubies Get Hope intense counseling.
Happy Birthday, Belinda!! Appreciate your posts and sense of humor - always enjoyable listening to your insights & take on things! 🥳🎂🎁💐💕
However Carter is being, they WROTE him to be this way. This is Brad Bell doing diabolical work!!!!
Carter is a writer
Came here to say this. @@medorabohannon8144
Yes! Bring in Nick! Bring Jack with him. In soap years, he'd be 30, right? 😂
@@amandaredd3057 I think Nick is busy doing Hallmark movies.
This show is so hard to even watch .. I just listen to your updates.. no chemistry with Hope and Carter.. same crap every day 😆
I stopped watching when they sent Thomas away and broke up Hope and Thomas. It’s unwatchable. I check in here once in a while.
I’m with you! I just listen to the updates also! This show just doesn’t make sense anymore!!!
@@well57seasonedDitto.
It's exhausting!
They are getting it on today😂
They took a survey apparently 80% of fans felt Hope deserved to be Fired ! She has been down right disrespectful for quite a while actually thinks She and her Mother is entitled to the company she is delusional🤪 all she did was dream of other men instead of working on the Line
Exactly
That is what my wife and I said she hasn't been working just sitting at her desk and dreaming about her next victim. 😅😅
Why isn't Steffy and Ridge answering the question, that Hope raised?? She asked, how could she have possibly know that Fin would show up in that office, at that exact time? Its a great point!!! What is their theory on that? Why did they completely ignore that question????
Ja dat is waar het zijn alletwee leugenaars de zogenaamde foresters hij steunt zijn dochter ze zijn gewoon niet eerlijk naar Hope toe.
Exactly!
Sorry I’m not a steffy fan but her time is coming, I can’t believe Finn never spoke up that was hope office not steffy
Finn going to look so stupid when the truth comes out about steffy kissing Liam twice and it’s going to come out because Liam told his brother which is a Logan also and he’s going to tell his mother Katie
I don’t understand why Steffy kissing Liam twice once being in Steffy and Finn home!!
Hope did not tell Katie that her and Carter was together remember it's still a secret wait until Aunt Katie foun d out about Carter in Hope
Happy Birthday Belinda, I hope for the best, u make us happy too.❤🎉😂🎵🎶💃🏻🎈🙏🏽
Im so sick of Brooke and Ridge both, Brooke entitled and dishonest, Ridge waffling and weak, neither found it necessary to sit Hope and Steffy down all together telling them to stop the nonsense
Agree
The writers are slack a month ago Hope was crying over Thomas telling him she loves him and they belong together now she is madly in love with Carter
Zende and RJ need to sit down, he nor RJ have been making the Line Successful. PERIOD
Thats right. No matter how steffy feels about hope her clothing line was failing 😮so the bottom line shouldn't be about steffy it should be that RJ and Zende was No help in bringing life back into hope's line🤦♀️🤷♀️. Dumb Carter is being played by hope to stand against the Forrester's bc she wants pay back. ..carter is a wimp with hope 😮
@michelekramer7285 Michelle I'm enjoying your post RJ and Zendre did nothing
It's Tali Well we all know that Zande & RJ are not Thomas and that is a fact that is why the line is buzzing @rosieplayer5226
@brendabyrd668 RJ has no experience and a few weeks training from Eric. Did they really expect the line to be what it was with a trained designer like Thomas? Zenda, did his best but still not the designer Thomas is so ...
@@rosieplayer5226thank you. I’m just a fan and I love who I love on this soap but I refuse to argue with anyone about who I love and don’t care for!!
Taylor should stay out of it.
Yes Taylor should stay out of it,she obviously doesn’t have nothing to do with it,why she doesn’t go to work,Maybe they found out she not the doctor to help them since she is pathetic and can’t manage her own life.
Im not feeling Carter and Hope as a couple at all but im all for Hope being away from Forrester, the possibilities for Hope's character are endless now, so as creating a rival fashion brand
Agree no chemistry there
@@carmenwhite8651they are trying to force Hope and Carter
They have chemistry.hope likes the way Carter took up for her
Oh how I miss Thomas so much
Oh you must miss the external because Tommy boy's internal was as shallow as a grave...The writers were foolish to pair Hope with such a insensitive jerk in the first place who just like all the other Forresters had to control the narrative according to his fragile ego ..
@@darnellanders8768 Thomas has,TRADITIONAL views about marriage & love. That doesn't make him a control freak. He loved Hope with all of him, mind, body & soul. Their sexual relationship only intensified his love for her. He wanted to protect her, give her the world, have more children with her and make her his wife. There are MILLIONS of men in this world that feel the same when they find a woman they love.
@tamicaroberts4698 Me too it's been too long
@@realrhondda my husband has always treated me this way and I wouldn’t change it for anything in the world 🌎!!
@@realrhondda yes and traditional (criminal) values about covering for a baby kidnapping and saying it was dead. SURE! SMDH.
Oh sit down RJ! You got lucky designing by helping grandpa! You can’t even draw without his abilities.
Hope is living up to her Logan Legacy. She is using Carter. She's her Mother's Daughter alright. Carter is a means to an end.
I could not agree more! Amen!
This is EVERYTHING all wrapped up in a little bow!!
I also think because Carter latched onto Hope, he is going to lose everything he has Earned throughout the years as COO @Forrestor’s!!
@@michelekramer7285 yes this is his third time messing around with an employee so easily manipulated.
😂😂😂😂
I don't get why everyone sees Steffy as a bulley when it's Hope who keeps doing dumb stuff and getting caught, if my mama has caught me twice at the office making out with Carter, there's no way i would be running around in lingerie at work, especially since i am trying to keep mines and Carter relationship a secret.Hope needs to grow up and stop running to mama Everytime she messes up and own up to her mistakes and stop playing the victim in every situation when she get caught and stop acting like she's entitled to something just because she wants it.
I agree with everyone this Carter and Hope relationship is not believable how can she claim to be so madly in love with Carter so fast when they have only shared a few kisses ,when for months her and Thomas was hot and heavy and she couldn't tell him she loved him or wanted a life with him, Carter is just a means to and end and if Hope gets what she wants then he out,and want have a job or respect from Ridge or Eric or trust in him anymore.
@@berniecenichols7149 agreed why would anyone believe him after the moves he’s made this week, throwing all his years being with Forrestor Away on a whim with the waffler Girl, Hope who can’t commit to anyone and SUDDENLY she’s in Love with Carter, who a week ago was all in on her Line being CUT, I mean he’s the one who was looking at all the numbers for her Line and even said “it’s not good enough her numbers are not improving and we’re even losing some stores because of this.
Brooke shouldn’t be surprised, like Momma like daughter, do they even know how to lock a door. just more ridiculous writing by Brad Bell!
Happy Birthday Belinda from down under thanks again. ❤
Happy birthday hope you are having a great day ❤
Carter is about to be fired.
Happy Birthday Beylinda 🎉🎂... love your podcast. You should be the writers for B&B ....In my opion I hope to see Bill involved with a new venture with Carter. Luna sorry has to go.... boring. My thing with Steffy is how she fired Hope, really distasteful. Can someone pls explain when Taylor became the new HR or Health Council for Forester 😅. She makes me laugh it had to be done, yes because that way you have your cure when Ridge and Brook fall apart. The best is when she said Hope disrespected Steffy marriage really with a oops fell into Finn and a 5 min kiss..however Steffy sleeping with Liam Hopes Husband at the time was not disrespected to Hopes marriage ... I do think this letting go of Hope will lead to a Forester downfall. ...Is just me or was The Hope situation a mean to a end,a plot from Steffy to break Ridge and Broke and firing Hope was a bonus??? Thoughts
Happy Birthday Belinda🎉🎂🎊
Mine was yesterday! Enjoy your Day!!
Thanks! I hope you had a great day! 🎉
Hope cannot stand on her own. She runs and cries to her momma when she gets into a mess. Now Carter is her knight in shining armor! What a big cry baby! Waaaa! 👶
Hope needs a 🍼
Oh bla bla bla Your just bias another flying 🐒 monkey for the entitled arrogant who are all about dominance and controlling the narrative according to their fragile egos...Hope did nothing wrong. . Stuffy ho the crowing 🐓 rooster is full of double standards and hipocracy at it's best.
@@anitasez
And diaper.
Happy Birthday Belinda 🎂 🎉
Congratulations to Matt Atkinson and his wife on the birth of their baby.
Real bummer that we still don't know if he's coming back or not.
I would hope he could shake up the show. But, he's been gone so long; at this point... I just don't know. 🤷♀️
Yeah he's been gone so long that it doesn't matter. I thought the story line of Thomas and Paris was interesting and could have been developed further especially with Hope being on the outside looking in and remembering the passion that they once shared.
Was it a boy or a girl
Thank you Belinda! When Thomas come back I will watch again!
Sorry Melinda! Nothing is going to save this show unless the writing changes!!!
@@dorothyfarley2005 it’s Beylnda not Melinda
@ Sorry about that!
Why don't they questions Finn....hear his side of the story
Yes, this whole Carter thing is ridiculous
Agree
Eric and the forresters have always loved and respected Carter. He's not loyal at all.
@@rosieplayer5226
Carter and Hope????? I never even saw them have a serious conversation and now they are head over hill in lust???? This is just plain stupid writing.
@beverlyanngilbert4794 yes mam it's crazy about 2 weeks ago carter was just on board about HFTF failing now he's in love with hope and plotting revenge on the family and company that has treated him with love,respect and kindness his attitudes about his vision for the company was not accepted as a businesses man you loose some you win some so now he's acting like a complete idiot he's no longer loyal with his sudden change in behavior maybe he never was.
I could care less about Will and Elektra, I'm already bored. I'm hear for Poppy and Luna's return, I hope she escapes. 🤣
Steffy secrets kisses need to be revealed give her a dose of reality hopefully no backbone Finn walks
Carter started getting on my nerves
The question is why are they bringing Poppy and Luna back unless they're starting a new storyline with them? 🤔
Happy Birthday! Today is my daughter and daughter-in-law birthday too 🎉
That's awesome! Happy Birthday to them! 🎉
You all what Brooke told ridge what about her legacy belongs to hope but she don’t want ridge legacy to belong to his children Brooke wants ridge to side with her and her daughter and not his own daughter what nerve Brooke 😊
Oh please Belinda... Luna's being the daughter of a homeless man turn rock star was never determined...I still believe Finn's the father.... That would surly rock Stuffy ho the crowing 🐓 roosters world 🌍 to the core along with the henpecked Finn... Nevertheless the rest of your viewpoints are spot on... except that Quinn the territorial wet alley 🐈 cat seduced Carter first supposedly going to Carter on Zoe's behalf yet stabbing her in the back complimenting Carter's physic..
some of you are so not watching the soap right steffi always in Hope face about stay away from my brother ,stay from Liam,say away from my Husband now she is doing just that some of you guys and steffi still have a promblem smh.
So, Hope couldn't say "I love you" to Thomas but can say that to Carter after 5 minutes? Make it make sense!!!
Thank you. I had a better feeling for Thomas and Paris. At least there was a past connection between them. Thomas once had feelings for Paris but Carter and Hope makes absolutely no sense at all.
Stupid writing...nobody falls in love after 3 weeks x
R U Serious...How could Hope love a man who kept her from her daughter never coming forward with the truth... If he had changed he would have at least waited a year before proposing a dozen times.... after all his shenanigans he owed Hope that much who has a forgiving ❤️ heart... Hope has always deserved better than Tommy boy who listens to his wicked sister leaving town with his head between his tail taking Douglas out of a stable environment just to prove a point . Tommy boy isn't half the man Carter is...All the Forrester's are full of double standards and hipocracy at it's best...
@@darnellanders8768 How could Hope love a man who kept her from her daughter? Not easily. But Hope assessed Thomas' involvement in Bathgate. And determined his role in the cover-up was minor as opposed to paris' father, Dr. Buckingham, Felony Flo & Zoe Buckingham. Hope also realized that Thomas was a CHANGED MAN. That he had been mentally impaired & desperate but aftetward, he took full responsibility for his part, went into therapy & had brain surgery. So Hope FORGAVE Thomas. Totally and completely. Then she fell in love with the man who had changed his life for her & his son. Hope total her mother she loved Thomas, & she was SO grateful for him. And she wanted him in her life. Her hesitation about remarrying & commitment had NOTHING to do with Thomas. It was all about what she had been through & her not being ready. It has nothing to do with Thomas. She didn't want marriage. But she loved and wanted HIM.
@@darnellanders8768 Hope went after Thomas while married to Liam. Thomas had kept his promise to stay away from her. SHE is the one who lusted/fantasized about Thomas and I think she used his feelings for him to get what she wants.
Carter is about to lose everything
Agree
Welp, he has already lost his mind. Choosing to get involved with Hopeless.
Why didn’t fin just say,
to Steffy
Hope accidentally fell on him?
It’s so silly,
how she was fired.
But this the bold
Finn has no balls to stand up to Steffy
Hope definitely doesn’t want Liam the loser
I would be very messed up if B&B let Matt go after just getting married and with a kid on the way. It also it’s very smart when his character is very needed.
I haven’t been watching 😂 the writing is garbage and everyone is so irritating 🤦🏾♀️🙄
Oh I can’t wait to hear about MA
To be fair, what is Steffy supposed to think? A woman ( who kissed her husband recently) just so happened to have lingerie on and just so happened to slip and fall directly onto her husband's lap? Come on people, thats completely and utterly preposterous ( and somehow true ) There is actually a very old joke about this. " Oh wait. It was an accident? You accidentally tripped and fell on his d***?? B&B writers are a bit ridiculous.
Carter was wrong to tell Hope that FC is her legacy because she’s not a Forrester. Deacons restaurant is Hope’s legacy. FC is Ric and Bridgette’s legacy. They are the only Logans that are entitled to FC because they are Forresters. I don’t understand why the writers are trying to rewrite the show history and give Hope Ric and Bridgette’s legacy.
Steffy ridge Dec in not taylor are not forresters brooke is more of a forrester as she was married to eric
I read where Liam hears about Steffy Firing Hope because she thought Hope was trying to seduce Finn so the writers think now is maybe a good time for those 2 kisses between Steffy and Liam that happened last year to come out being that Hope and Liam were still married at the time and Liam lets them slip! Carter then files a massive lawsuit for Hope against Forrester creations being that Steffy's relentless attacks against Hope around the office are technically illegal which makes for a hostile work environment and the fact that Hope was wrongfully terminated its possible that Hope could walk away with a majority stake in the company!!!! Idk how true it is but I've read it a couple of times different places either way I know Carter has a plan to get back at Steffy and Ridge for wrongfully firing Hope regardless of her line failing and especially the way they treated her having her escorted out the building so guess we will see which way he goes about it!!! I want to see Steffy get her Karma!!!
Yes Luna is unredeemedable🤦♀️ Unless the writers make luna a twin to a evil twin that has kidnapped the original Luna just like they did with Sheila's evil twin and with Shelia outcome all was forgiven 🤷♀️who knows with these writers🤦♀️🤷♀️Luna was a very sweet likeable young lady 👩just a thought🤔🙄 🤷♀️
Fellow Scorpio Belinda🎉🎉❤️!
Eric may have wanted to end Hope's line, but I dont know if he wanted her fired.
Shush please
Business is different from the relationship. PERIOD
Good Morning Beylnda
Morning! 🌞
@SoapDirt cater and hope together make me so happy seeing them together luna needs to go steffy need to be fired by Carter or Brooke
@@LakeshiaUnderwood-rr9gz fire someone with 37 percent stock having someone killed because u don't like them, There are other Forrester like Thomas
Hope has been a mess lately
Thomas brought out the good in Hope. Now that he's gone, she's turned into a doormat again. Terrible writing
Carter and Hope have known each other for years i'm wondering if they mean they love each other like a family? probably not since they're making out 😂
I think they love each other like FRIENDS WITH BENEFITS. I believe Hope still deeply in love with Thomas. But since she lost him partly bc she waited so long to say I Love You, she doesn't want that to happen again. So she's telling Carter she loves him a little to soon.
Nothing Will Ever be as intense & complicated as her love for Thomas.
@realrhondda it will be interesting when Thomas comes back Hope will probably forget about Carter 😂
You would think that Luna is irredeemable but if Sheila is Luna can be too I suppose. Luna did make a fascinating serial killer & I wouldn't mind having her back. Steffy is a stoned bitch but even so I can see her point when she sees Hope in a negligee all over her husband seeing as that Hope did kiss Fenn at that party and Steffy gave Hope an out by asking if it isn't Fenn who was she expecting and Hope deciding to protect Carter doesn't say anything. That presents a problem for Hope. I understand that Brooke did not tell Ridge about Carter & Hope because Hope begged her not to and she said she would keep her secret so she should and she did. It is ironic that tonight Hope is tellling Carter she loves him after a New York Minute of being together yet Thope fans waiting for the longest time and only heard it when Thomas was breaking up with Hope as a desperate means of keeping him with her. BELYNDA THOUGH CALLED IT RIGHT WHEN SHE PREDICTED THAT CARTER WOULD BE WITH HOPE AND I CAN'T LIE, I DIDN'T LIKE IT AT FIRST BUT I AM WARMING UP TO IT, CARTER IS MORE INTERESTING WHEN HE IS WITH HOPE BECAUSE HE SEEMS TRULY INTO HER AND SHE DOES SEEM INTO HIM TOO, I THINK THEY ARE HOT TOGETHER! I miss Thomas too but the frustration the writers caused ruining Thope repeatedly makes me okay with having Hope with Carter, if Thomas would return and fight for Hope that would be interesting but so far he isn't even returning. Oh and Will and Electra make an absolutely gorgeous couple!!
I agree I just wait on your videos Belinda I don't even watch 😮
I keep getting this feeling that Heather Tom whose character is a Logan and Lawrence who character has been loganized are writing for the show and they are about to write it for the Logans to take over FC. That’s why Carter just told Hope that FC is her legacy and Brooke told Ridge that Hope deserves a seat at the table. Carter told Hope that the Logans will no longer be second to the Forresters in that company and he promised that. Which means the writers either Bill Bell leading them is about to rewrite the show history to take down the Forresters for the Logans. I saw something on Google last week that Lawrence said the Carter character isn’t going anywhere and he’s not getting fired from FC. Things aren’t looking good for the Forresters future.
No we just going to skip over other Logans with stocks in the company, Thomas could b CEO not to mention other Forresters
Carter about to start a strike 😂😂 or Bill going to back them if Brooke gets on board
Get rid of katie and donna bring a alexis carrington type character to rival brooke....somebody to shake sosp up x
I’m not sure what I feel about Luna, except that she needs to STAY in JAIL (Prison)!!
Carter is officially Logantized Ladies and Gentlemen I truly believe that my friends all hope had to say to Steffy and Ridge that she was waiting for Carter not Finn end of story period something tells me that Brooker is going to go to Bill about what is going on she always runs to her ex's im so ready to see Lisa aka Luna this week im so done with the Hope for the future storyline to be honest Jacqui aka Steffy my girl and Annika aka hope is killing it in the storyline why is Will at Forrester he clearly not working just flirting with the ladies I want Electra to cause problems for Katie and Will
Happy Birthday Beylnda 🩷 I hope you have a wonderful Month Celebrating you all month long!!
Thank you so much! 🎉
@@SoapDirtyou bet!! Celebrate your month with lots of love and laughter with your hubs!!
Steffi and Taylor: "Don't let the Logans manipulate you." Also Steffi and Taylor: "It's our job is to manipulate you and everyone else.".
HFTF was not losing money. That was said. The projections were bad which means they expected a downturn. Maybe the economy is bad in soap opera land too.
I'm excited to see how Carter will go at FC.
Hope is using Carter. Remember when Hope told Steffy when Thomas left Steffy would pay? I think that plan is unfolding before our eyes.
I am blown away how Hope and Brooke don't throw the fact into Ridges face how many times stank Steffy his daughter went after Liam while Hope and Liam was together. Nothing is ever mentioned.
It's Tali Carter should not fight with Steffy he is not part of the family he is a close friend and there lawyer. How can Brooke plead her case for Hope if she dosen't tell Ridge the truth? That Hope & Carter are seeing each other. It will get messy as usual Thans for the Spoilers Belinda
Carter is such a fool! He has no clue that he is being used. Hope is pretty good at conniving and manipulating Carter. All the fake tears, and playing the victim, and pushing Clueless Carter to get even with the Forresters. And making him believe that they don't appreciate or respect him, that he should do something to get back at them. And look at how fast she was alright as soon as Carter took his shirt off and jumped her bones! She immediately started stripping too. Carter is just going to get himself in trouble and Hope doesn't really give a damn. She is just using him for sex and in her fight with the the Forresters!
I wonder if Hope will marry Carter
Think Bill would love to back Carter and Hope on a venture going against Forrester Creations!
Stoned hippie who is gold digger took me out Belinda 😂😂😂😂😂
Happy birthday Belynda. ❤
Happy birthday Belinda
I do not know what's going on with this show, but writers r HORRIBLE!!!! this Hope n Finn scene was dumbest ever!!! why would Finn go there to give stephy her tablet??? And why would Hope be in lingerie in the office???? have the rendezvous in bedroom. I feel bad for actors for their scripts! They have turned Stephy into a bully power freak. As far as Brook and Ridge let em split up sooo sick of Ridge!! Finally if they wont bring back Thomas hav actor to go to General Hospital he'd make a terrific Spencer!!!!!!
I hope this is the last we see of Luntic Luna and Poppy as for Hope and Carter I like them together
Hope have problems, she néed to sèe a phÿchartic. Carter has lost his mind letting Hope manipulate him into trying to take Forrester public. Brooke need to stay out of Bill life. Bill need Katie. Lets see Brooke and Shelia fight over Deacon, you know she can't be alone for long.
Brooke is always wanting Ridge to support and side with her. If she cares so much about him, why not tell him that Hopeless was putting on the lingerie for Carter? Then Ridge can have a reason to "support" Brooke and Hopeless. I think Brooke will run to Bill and end up in bed with him and Katie will find out about Hopeless and Carter.
I'll be honest.... I'm over Thomas and Hope.... once they do this to a soap couple - separate them to the extent that viewers think one's been fired - people move on. I think Bell is bringing back Thomas for Hope because the ratings are tanking.... I don't think Bell wants Thomas and Hope - for whatever reason - together.... so now we will have Carter, Hope, Brooke, Katie, Zende and possibly RJ and Rick starting a new company (SpencerLogan) to rival Forrester - only their company will be under the Spencer Umbrella!
While I'm still here for Thope, I can't blame fans for bailing. The years of fans being frustrated w/some of Bell's decisions-hell, it's flat out mistrust at this point-if fans need to let go to find peace/relieve their frustrations, they gotta do what they gotta do. I'm keeping the faith but I don't have that history w/Bell-just started resuming watching B&B about 2 yrs ago.
Still, even my current frustrations with this show is impacting how much I watch the old episodes. I can't watch Season 16 because of Sheila because, to me, Sheila's presence, currently, emphasize that Bell has no clue what to do w/her but pay KB to hang around.
Meanwhile, Matthew Atkinson, who is a draw, has been MIA & TPTB are not saying what's going on. MA's interviews in June seem to imply Thomas is coming back but I HATE that the suspense of that is in real life, not in the damn scripts!
Carter is being a douche this past week!!
Agreed. Carter's a MAJOR backstabber!
Agree
Carter is an idiot.
Why because he's standing up for injustices against the high and mighty entitled arrogant all about dominance and controlling the narrative according to their fragile egos...All the Forrester's are full of double standards and hipocracy at it's best ..Im assuming you are one of those flying 🐒 monkeys rooting for the wicked and twisted...
@@rosieplayer5226The flying 🐒 monkeys rooting for the wicked witch of Malibu are idiots...All the Forrester's are full of double standards and hipocracy at it's best... Carter can take his pitch elsewhere with ease instead of remaining in a stagnated company that rarely have fashion shows ..
Nobody don't give a 💩 about Luna tha truth is tha beep is really crazy so bye Luna
She was a bit much Steffy but she's proving firing Hope was justified. In a real world that couldn't be done. Lol
Hey Belynda, what did Matthew A. had? Was it boy or girl?
True
Carter you next 🎉
I wasn't watching the show at the time but would anybody explain to me the sentence, "Eric gave licence to Carter to bang his wife as a favor to him" because I find this quite baffling.
What if Cater leaves to be on The Gates?
What if Carter & Hope both go on The Gates?
I read something on Google last month that said Lawrence got hired for Beyond the Gates. So I wonder is this the reason why his character has changed and is going against the Forresters for Hope.
Hope shouldn't want to be there
Sick of STEFFY AND HER WIMPY HUSBAND
And he definitely is a wimp.
Finn is a putz.
I like Luna and Poppy, Zende not RJ are the greatest designers
Please bring Thomas back already
Brook will tell Ridge no more Brooke bedroom until Hope comes back
I can see that, it’s just HOW she acts about anything that has to do with Hope, so sorry Brooke your Daughter is and has been in the wrong on so many occasions, she can’t stop lying and now she’s brought Carter into her mess, I am certain she is lying 🤥 about her feelings for him too, it seems forced on both sides
why can't Hope go to her mom and steff can go to her mom and dad and cry nothing for that some of you are fake you all up on hope and Brooke head .
Right now I don't like Finn. Coward.
Hope should go to Eric to let her line no ties to Forrester
Steffy is lacking a lot of confidence in this "totally committed marriage". She acts like she can't trust Finn around Hope! Can she?? I know if she says "my husband " one more time I'm going to scream!!! She said it 7 times in an episode this week🤨 We know he's your husband Steffy! Come on writers. Expand your dialog.
@@jlynnwarner8170 this entire dialogue lately is so juvenile and I really love Steffy but I need her to stop being mean to everyone else except her Mom and Rigid (he’s a clown 🤡 always coward when it comes to Brooke, does he even know what she has been up to this week)!! Doubt she told him she went to DeCON and filled him in on everything that Happened at Forrestor this week, yet she went Straight to the CON and let him know everything that she (Hope) has been doing
But I highly doubt that she even let Rigid know that piece of information ℹ️ no she’s going to keep her secret to herself so she can keep ridiculing him and for her daughter that’s the problem at the office first and foremost!! Hope hasn’t been doing anything to save her OWN line, except now trying on night gowns for a man that she doesn’t want ANYONE else to know about!!
Thank you amen...thanks for saying!!! Enough of my husband, etc....😢😢😂