The DNA hasn’t matched ANYONE they’ve tested! The DNA is touch DNA and is useless. How much do you wanna bet it’s from some manufacturer who made the underwear?
I lived with a guy who had schizophrenia and was similar to Gary. This guy I lived with had no education and used to be homeless. At the same time, he would continuously write letters, full of rambling but also using vocabulary way beyond his education and how he would talk in person. I have no idea how he wrote what he did, without reading up on the subject, which he didn't as he never read books.His writings was full of movie quotes, music lyrics and scientific literature, and all from his head. So i totally believe Gary could write the letter, no question.
[Vinnie Voice] Of course he didn't write the ransom novel. Gary O. has never heard those words, never mind used them. [Vinnie Voice] But here's the thing: there's no longer any money in saying "XYZ happened_John and Patsy covered it up." That dried up when it became clear to everyone -- including the truly dim-bulb dullards who couldn't possibly come to the logical conclusion you did -- that the inside-the-house crew will simply never suffer legal consequences. [Vinnie Voice] So, instead, we spoon feed them "the KILLER might still be OUT THERE ... and he's GOT A NAME." [Vinnie Voice] Because if he's still out there and he's got a name, then we still got a case. And if we still got a case, then we still have a shot at justice. And if we still have a shot at justice, then we still have reasons for people to click. [Vinnie Voice] Money over sincerity all day, every day. That's what I say.
@christopherallsup4260 well, if what you believe is actually true, then they probably should test Michael Vail's DNA don't you think? I mean why else would this man be so invested in proving Gary's guilty?
Wtf am I watching? Is this even worth discussing. All I see is a guy who certainly has some mental health concerns and substance abuse issues, being messed with by some pos all while filming it and egging him on. This is bs, I’m angry I even spent the time to make this comment let alone the 15 mins of it I watched before I had to tap out 😂
@@SpicyBeautifulDisaster I agree, son/brother did it. Patsy wrote the ransom note. The parents wanted to protect the mentally ill psychopath son at all costs.
My only issue with the brother doing it is he was a tiny boy, like 70 pounds wet. I don’t think he was capable of the brutality committed against poor Jon Benet
I agree. I hate these people that just want to make money off of this while an innocent little girl lies in a cemetery for nearly 30 years and no one has been held accountable yet. I think it is appalling to say the least, and it only serves as a distraction if not an outright impediment.
This guy doesn’t strike me as the perp in this case. That ransom note is something I can’t get past. How did they know the dad’s exact bonus amount? The investigation was bungled from the moment the police arrived at that home
Yes it is strange that the dad's bonus amount was what the writer of the ransom note requested. That made me feel like it was someone who knew the father/family.
John Ramsey's pay stub was sitting on the desk in the kitchen where the pads of paper and the pens were. Every paycheck that year had the amount of the bonus, which was paid to John in January 1996. Whoever wrote the note might have thought he got the bonus for Christmas.
He’s not gonna confess on camera to the world because he doesn’t wanna be killed. He doesn’t know the guy in the next motel room is watching and won’t come over and end him, so he’s not gonna admit anything on camera. Not like he did in those letters. Whether he did it or not or was involved is a different story. He should not be on the streets he is a danger to children. Stop releasing these pedos. They can’t be fixed.
Just another nutcase looking for attention, he's not the 1st one. There was no intruder. True Crime Rocket Science has dozens of in depth vids (and 12 books) on the matter
I give John a lot of respect for still doing whatever he can to help the case. I would be very tired of exposing myself and Patsy to unwarranted criticism.
He needs case closed to protect son before he dies . They been hiding him in his dads basement for over 30 years, no gf, no collage buddies .. come on he’s 40 by now .
Sorry I rattled someone’s cage I know no FACTS of Burkes mental health. Same as we don’t have facts of JonBene’s medical records .. parents locked that stuff down . Again, so sorry but I do know he’s been tucked away (with the exception of Dr Phil) ever since this happened. Kinda his own private prison of sorts huh? We know nothing for sure as what any of their diagnosis do we?
At this point this guy is just harrasing his clearly, mentally ill "class mate" ... ive never had someone i called just a classmate who i go to resturants with and have endless videos of. This guy cant even admit he is friends with Gary, everything seems dishonest. In fact, have they investigated HIM? Cause he seems to have a bizaare interest in pinning it on Gary and has a bunch of theories...
Stop grouping pedophilia and perversion in with mental illness. That guy is not crazy, he’s acting crazy… he’s not mentally ill either, he’s a sick child predator who should be in prison.
I thought he may have mental health issues too. It sounds to me he's been fed information which he could be regurgitating. Basically, telling them what they want him to say.
We only have Michael Zorn's word on that and he seems sketchy AF. He's not Gary Oliva's friend and he doesn't give a crap about JBR. He's using Oliva and taking advantage of the guy's obvious mental illness. I'm not saying Oluva is a good guy, but he was investigated and his DNA wasn't a match.
@@jennam9226 It never occurred to me that he might be a paid shill for the Ramseys. I can maybe see Oliva trying to make himself relevant, I can definitely see Zorn trying to make a buck.
What is actually going on with Colorado PD & this case? BOTH Jonbonet's parents & ENTIRE family were ruled out with DNA, so was this dude so WHY keep focusing on them? RUN THE DNA THROUGH CODAS!!!!!!!
A lot more to this and odd in itself that the police ever said they were cleared. Too much to go into but listen to the case somewhere like The Lore Lodge. Don't rely on msm and certainly not netflix if you wish to know the ins and outs with no bias reporting.
This was a waste. There was no discussion of the evidence and any connection to,the circumstances of the murder. Michael vail offers nothing of value. Vinnie, what are you doing??
Theres no way it wasnt the mother who wrote the note. The type of people who would put their kids in a beauty pageant and take it very seriously are the type of people who are capable of much worse
I think he did it ..I think he stayed hidden in that huge A$$ house and possibly JB knew of his intrusion and was afraid to get out of bed...hence the bed wetting. This man is supposedly mental and claimed he loved JB..possibly why she was covered up when they found her and maybe explains the heart drawn in her little hand... idk 🤷♀️
It's either her dad accidentally hurt her bc she wet the bed, or her brother accidentally killed her and their parents didn't want to lose both their children. One to death and one to prison.
@mindovermatter0000 He would not have gone to prison. It is clear that Burke has some type of learning difficulty, there would be a strong defence for him ending her life accidentally.
Simple exclusion of Gary O. is the $118,000.00 ransom mentioned in the ransom note. It doesn't seem like Gary O. traveled in the same circles that the Ramsey's did so how would he come up with that amount? $118,000.00 is the exact amount of John Ramsey's Christmas bonus. Doesn't add up.
Idk? The whole Gary O thing sounded really good initially when I first heard it... But watching this episode and Gary's so-called friend trying to get him to confession by weird manipulation tactics actually just creeps me out. I think Gary is very mentally ill. At this point I wouldn't be able to trust anything he said on those videos because he is being lead.
They are chasing someone who clearly is mentally ill. The reason the crime hasn’t been solved is because the one who committed the crime has died. It was Patsy. The note makes no sense if you want to blame Gary, it makes all the sense in the world that Patsy wrote it.
Disagree. I was typing a reply expressing my thoughts was pretty long. Then good old YT did the ad shite & erased my reply. Not gonna try to say it all again. YT & it's ads, will happen again. This needs to be solved!! So many that need to be solved. 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Vinnie politan put out a video a year ago that was about handwriting analysis. "The coupon" letter vs. the ransom note. I can tell you right now that the "confession letter" was not written by the same person that wrote the "coupon letter."
Everything about Linda struck screamed "psycho-cop" to me. She did not handle that crime scene properly, no way should the father been permitted to roam around the house looking for the child while the police were there and no way should father been allowed to touch the child once her body had been located. That is just police work 101 and Linda got a big fail on all of that.
I think her instinct is correct. John Ramsey knew JB was there. He put her there. And to contanimate evidence he took here and brought her upstairs, An innocent person unaware of her injuries would never grab her up, a innocent person would scream for help first.
@@skychaser5591 So old JR outsmarted the Boulder police because he knew they were dumb and wouldn't do their job properly. Sorry, I don't buy that. DNA didn't match JR or his son so that dog don't hunt.
In my opinion, the Ramson note may have been written by some teenagers at that time. I believe that having a three-page note is input by multiple people who are inexperienced but have seen TV crime programs. I believe that the teens may have been living near the residence of the Ramsays and maybe even know about the house layout. The reason why DNA was not able to be matched to anyone was because these teens may have some relation to the Police or hierarchy in that particular town. I think it is a police cover-up.
Patsy wrote the letter. Party would know details and since she was so close to the crime she took the time to write such a long letter. Both parents know the son did this.
@audreydaleski1067 I agree and the house was so huge who knows if this guy was possibly hiding somewhere in there!! Who's to say JB didn't see this man in her room at night possibly why she wet the bed afraid to get up out of bed !!! I threw out the brother theory when the autopsy said a thumb print the size of a mans thumb in her skull.. But..We don't know who did it..we just know this little girl needs her day of Justice!!
I see this as a public stunt. The guy just wants attention along with his friend, his theories don’t make sense. If the note was written after her death and her death was an accident then why even write it as kidnapping and not take the body dead or alive, and leave it there knowing someone would find her. This is a 5 year old body not a grown man’s body, it wasn’t hard to move it. This whole case has been botched from the beginning. Makes no sense, not a valid statement.
Patsy wrote the note!!! There was no intruder!! Does anyone really think that Gary Olivia looks like the type of person to use the word “attaché”??? Come on… all we can hope for is a death bed confession from John Ramsey, at this point.
Those are my views as well, although I sense there are more than two individuals (that are still living) that know exactly what happened that night. But I highly doubt that any of them will ever step forward.
I think it would be worthwhile to compare what is known about Gary Oliva’s child crimes to see if any there are any similarities to what happened to JonBenet.
I may be crazy but i feel like that Micheal Vail guy has something to hide, seems like he's to obsessed with that Gary guy taking the fall very suspicious to me
Bc there’s evidence she was being assaulted /abused up to 10 days prior to her death. So the DNA might identify who was abusing her but won’t necessarily reveal who did this without a shadow of a doubt. And Boulder Police are likely terrified of getting it wrong or getting sued.
They did test Gary Oliva, suprise suprise The DNA didn't Match 😌 Gary Oliva has been ruled out AGES AGO, I don't understand why they bring him up again. Yet they keep chewing on this same turt 💩
If he was really his friend he wouldn’t do this. I’m so upset Court TV would do a story like this. I thought this video would actually have some REAL UPDATES. Shame on anyone who takes advantage of people for a pay out.
I don't believe this guy for a second. What a bunch of crap. This case is so easy. People are overthinking this and have for nearly 30 years. My theory: The killer (not murderer) was in the house for sure... and there were only 3 people in that house other than that poor little girl. It wasnt a murder. It was a second of jealous, out-of-control rage by a spoiled boy... then covered up by unbelievably distraught and emotionally overwhelmed parents. I believe they attempted to make it look like a murder to put great distance between the boy and this crime. In some ways, I can't blame them. As a parent, I can't imagine being forced into making that decision. The smoking gun has ALWAYS been that ridiculous "ransom" note. No one broke into that house. People, use your heads and stop blaming the boogeyman for this one.
If your daughter is kidnapped, why would you then call 4 sets of friends to immediately come over? Any one or 2 of these friends could be the culprit!! How did John know to exclude them from suspicion? Also, if we assume an intruder broke in while the Ramseys were away at a dinner party and wrote the note while he waited for them to return, he then decides to strangle her instead - but also decides to change her underwear by going upstairs and just happening to find a new package of female underwear 3 sizes too big for JB, and dresses her in it. He also decides to cover her with a blanket and her favorite nightgown ( which he happens to know about) opens the dryer, and just so happens to find both items there. Makes zero sense.
There is no reason other than either official corruption or incompetence why this case cannot be solved in 2025 if they really wanted to solve it but they don't.
The parents have been exonerated for years now, over and over again. That’s the reason they didn’t catch the actual killer, police had tunnel vision on the parents from word go and the real killer got away because of it. And they have been exonerated with dna. The authorities already sent the father an I’m sorry letter. The mother passed away years ago from cancer. The parents didn’t do it.
@@rifleman522 thank you....that was my point....nice there are still people out there with common sense when it comes to this issue. These parents were put through hell and the mother is dead thanks cancer, as I said. Leave the parents alone already. For anyone else who would think about liking the original comment, before you do, just try using that lump about three feet (give or take) above your rear end and think first.
His friend is leading him, I think this guy is vulnerable and clearly has issues. He maybe obsessed with her but he was impacted by this crime. His DNA doesn't match and unless their is evidence of more people involved how can it be him? Lots of circumstantial but need more than this.
IMO....this should have been solved long ago!! The "investigation " was a joke!! F'd up from the start !! The note was suspicious, I agree. But the more I have looked into it, & thought about it. The family was away for hours, at Christmas party. I could see someone getting into the house. Possibly found paperwork about dad's bonus?? A lot of things not tested for DNA. No doubt this guy (Gary) has some emotional & mental issues. Does not prove he's guilty, not saying he isn't, just saying. The DNA testing John is trying to have done, needs to be done. I've followed this case from the start. I really think this can be solved. The DNA testing would be a good start. It is very unfortunate how this crime was handled when it happened!! Allowing so many people into the crime scene, doing things that contaminated the house, evidence so much. 😢😢😢
Also because the parents decided to call their friends and “luckily” the dad found the body. Oh” he checked his mail while waiting for the kidnappers call which by the way they never received and they even forgot the call never came in 🤔
I don’t hear this guy confessing. I hear a sick lonely man who’s fixated on an unsolved case. Now he worked in the area. Okay so maybe that makes him more obsessed. Now this other guy is pulling his answers which aren’t even answers. Let alone confessions. This guy is looking for $. Hope you didn’t pay him
The crime scene was botched by the Ramsey family who filled the house with people, then "found" jonbonet's body and carried her upstairs before the police even got there.
I'm sorry but Gary Oliva just seems like the "perfect Patsy" so to speak. They need to blame someone to keep everyone's attention diverted from the sickness that goes on in that town.
If someone got in my house while I was out they would be able to find financial information. They could find my last bank deposit. What’s so difficult about that?
Also, what evidence do we have that this “friend” didn’t write this confession letter himself and blame it on the easy scapegoat, Gary Oliva? Who obviously has mental health issues and is a recidivist child predator, so can easily be blamed for this. I want to know if this “friend’s” DNA has been tested too.
Are Gary's fingerprints on that "confession letter?" Are there any finger prints on it? I do agree that the handwriting looks similar to the writing on the RANSOM NOTE. Albeit disguised by using all caps. But that looks more like Patsy wrote both letters, than Gary wrote both notes. Just saying
@ Bingo! Anyone with a working brain knows that there was no intruder. It’s really pointless at this point unless John just wants to get it off his chest.
This isn't very believable. Sounds a lot like this guy is trying to push this deranged man into a false confession. I really hope they find out what happened to her but I don't think this theory holds water. 🤔
High school friend is lying I'm sorry because why the hell with this man call you about this specific little girl but he didn't call you when he R-worded the other little 7 year old girl before "Jon Benet?" Boy bye😒
This is shameful. Clearly exploiting a mentally I'll person for notoriety/money/clicks. Does Gary have anyone in his corner representing him? If not, this is all deeply immoral.
@kathylelong3348 Recent?! No. ADT and many other security agencies go back a long way. Security is a personal choice. They failed. Granted this scruff is telling the truth, the mom obv covered for the son and covered it up w props. Thus, the bsmnt window...open. The ransom note. No DNA evidence.
You have to realize the time in which this happened. Smaller, safe town. People didn’t lock their doors. Heck, the town I grew up in people didn’t lock their doors until a girl I went to school with was murdered because her husband left one Saturday morning to get some supplies and left the door unlocked.
JonBenet was murdered by a sophisticated killer. Consider this a "Hit" by experienced assassin who knew layout of house, who was familiar with JonBenet's father's business dealings - eventhough ransom letter, inexplicable (handwritten?).
Please ! I the friend tryna profit of it and he is. He’s probably got a book deal and all, the tv appearances bout start rolling in . And I wouldn’t be shocked if Gary o and the friend is/ use to date
10:55 if that man answers ‘yes’ I’m disregarding everything he says thereafter because that dude is unwell, to put it politely. The bit where he repeatedly says “she is God, she’s GOD” sent chills across my body. No one in their right mind would feel safe in that room with that guy. Lol
Stop talking about Gary O. The DNA didn't match, and it was not an accident.
The DNA hasn’t matched ANYONE they’ve tested! The DNA is touch DNA and is useless. How much do you wanna bet it’s from some manufacturer who made the underwear?
They tested his DNA??? That is what I am trying to understand.
@@mimismegalife4976Yes
How do you know it wasn’t an accident? You think you know, but you don’t….you don’t
God….. thank you for saying that😃😃😃😃xx
No way this guy wrote the ransom note. He would not use words like hence and attache.
@@grandizer4531 have you read his poems
The exact same thing I said when this first came out. Ridiculous!
I lived with a guy who had schizophrenia and was similar to Gary. This guy I lived with had no education and used to be homeless. At the same time, he would continuously write letters, full of rambling but also using vocabulary way beyond his education and how he would talk in person. I have no idea how he wrote what he did, without reading up on the subject, which he didn't as he never read books.His writings was full of movie quotes, music lyrics and scientific literature, and all from his head. So i totally believe Gary could write the letter, no question.
[Vinnie Voice] Of course he didn't write the ransom novel. Gary O. has never heard those words, never mind used them.
[Vinnie Voice] But here's the thing: there's no longer any money in saying "XYZ happened_John and Patsy covered it up." That dried up when it became clear to everyone -- including the truly dim-bulb dullards who couldn't possibly come to the logical conclusion you did -- that the inside-the-house crew will simply never suffer legal consequences.
[Vinnie Voice] So, instead, we spoon feed them "the KILLER might still be OUT THERE ... and he's GOT A NAME."
[Vinnie Voice] Because if he's still out there and he's got a name, then we still got a case. And if we still got a case, then we still have a shot at justice. And if we still have a shot at justice, then we still have reasons for people to click.
[Vinnie Voice] Money over sincerity all day, every day. That's what I say.
@christopherallsup4260 well, if what you believe is actually true, then they probably should test Michael Vail's DNA don't you think? I mean why else would this man be so invested in proving Gary's guilty?
B.S. guy didn’t do it, this guy in the suit is just using him .
If it was really him, he’d be in jail right now.
Agreed
Can't argue with that tbh
Agree. I think the guy talking, Michael needs to have his DNA tested
@@BloomByCC Yes I was wondering if that happened!
Facts
Wtf am I watching? Is this even worth discussing. All I see is a guy who certainly has some mental health concerns and substance abuse issues, being messed with by some pos all while filming it and egging him on.
This is bs, I’m angry I even spent the time to make this comment let alone the 15 mins of it I watched before I had to tap out 😂
It makes 0 sense that he wrote that ransom note. I still think the son killed his sister
@@SpicyBeautifulDisaster I agree, son/brother did it. Patsy wrote the ransom note. The parents wanted to protect the mentally ill psychopath son at all costs.
My only issue with the brother doing it is he was a tiny boy, like 70 pounds wet. I don’t think he was capable of the brutality committed against poor Jon Benet
@ one would be surprised what an enraged male family member is capable of. Males can be strong and rage fuels that strength.
@@SpicyBeautifulDisastersince when do killers make sense?
They better do something to close this case. Been waiting my whole life!
1000%
He did it
@@melissadavis4436 if it wasnt the dad it was vail.
This is weak clickbait. Sounds like this “friend” wants to write a book and profit off these video tapes.
I wonder if the friend gave his DNA
I agree. I hate these people that just want to make money off of this while an innocent little girl lies in a cemetery for nearly 30 years and no one has been held accountable yet. I think it is appalling to say the least, and it only serves as a distraction if not an outright impediment.
I agree sounds like he set up this mentality ill man for money .
@@ananimity7332that’s a good point ! The friend keeps feeding him information!
This guy doesn’t strike me as the perp in this case. That ransom note is something I can’t get past. How did they know the dad’s exact bonus amount? The investigation was bungled from the moment the police arrived at that home
Yes it is strange that the dad's bonus amount was what the writer of the ransom note requested. That made me feel like it was someone who knew the father/family.
John Ramsey's pay stub was sitting on the desk in the kitchen where the pads of paper and the pens were. Every paycheck that year had the amount of the bonus, which was paid to John in January 1996. Whoever wrote the note might have thought he got the bonus for Christmas.
@@kathylelong3348 Oh ok..I never knew that
Mother wrote the ransom note to protect her psychotic son.
@@kathylelong3348patsy wrote the note
He’s not gonna confess on camera to the world because he doesn’t wanna be killed. He doesn’t know the guy in the next motel room is watching and won’t come over and end him, so he’s not gonna admit anything on camera. Not like he did in those letters. Whether he did it or not or was involved is a different story. He should not be on the streets he is a danger to children. Stop releasing these pedos. They can’t be fixed.
Just another nutcase looking for attention, he's not the 1st one. There was no intruder. True Crime Rocket Science has dozens of in depth vids (and 12 books) on the matter
Yes!!! I just posted something similar! Nick takes a real deep dive. He's the best!
@@karendesalva7674agreed! Been following Nick for a long while, he’s outstanding .
Agreed!
True Crime Rocket Science is just another armchair detective that makes money by clickbating on monetized videos.
True Crime Rocket Science is a nut job.
I give John a lot of respect for still doing whatever he can to help the case. I would be very tired of exposing myself and Patsy to unwarranted criticism.
Best way to hide , also !
He needs case closed to protect son before he dies . They been hiding him in his dads basement for over 30 years, no gf, no collage buddies .. come on he’s 40 by now .
@yobubbs7374 He is on the spectrum plus he is traumatized by all the press and his sister dying. Stop blaming him ffs
@@Ana_Sor4everyou are so clever
Sorry I rattled someone’s cage I know no FACTS of Burkes mental health. Same as we don’t have facts of JonBene’s medical records .. parents locked that stuff down . Again, so sorry but I do know he’s been tucked away (with the exception of Dr Phil) ever since this happened. Kinda his own private prison of sorts huh? We know nothing for sure as what any of their diagnosis do we?
At this point this guy is just harrasing his clearly, mentally ill "class mate" ... ive never had someone i called just a classmate who i go to resturants with and have endless videos of. This guy cant even admit he is friends with Gary, everything seems dishonest. In fact, have they investigated HIM? Cause he seems to have a bizaare interest in pinning it on Gary and has a bunch of theories...
I would like to know if they tested the DNA of Michael the friend
Stop grouping pedophilia and perversion in with mental illness. That guy is not crazy, he’s acting crazy… he’s not mentally ill either, he’s a sick child predator who should be in prison.
Totally agree, a very sinister character💀
I thought he may have mental health issues too. It sounds to me he's been fed information which he could be regurgitating. Basically, telling them what they want him to say.
I don’t think he did it but the fact that he made the phone call crying and confessing before it was made public just doesn’t make sense?
Do you really believe that?? Bs, he'd have been locked up yrs ago, he probably rang him afterwards, that guy is preying on a mental headcase🤢
We only have Michael Zorn's word on that and he seems sketchy AF. He's not Gary Oliva's friend and he doesn't give a crap about JBR. He's using Oliva and taking advantage of the guy's obvious mental illness. I'm not saying Oluva is a good guy, but he was investigated and his DNA wasn't a match.
@@kathleent3749 hearsay is far from evidence
@@BuzzyStreet yeah that guy shady AF and just another that j.ramsey was able to pay to try and shift the obvious opinion
@@jennam9226
It never occurred to me that he might be a paid shill for the Ramseys. I can maybe see Oliva trying to make himself relevant, I can definitely see Zorn trying to make a buck.
What is actually going on with Colorado PD & this case? BOTH Jonbonet's parents & ENTIRE family were ruled out with DNA, so was this dude so WHY keep focusing on them? RUN THE DNA THROUGH CODAS!!!!!!!
That's what i do Not understand...they have had DNA this whole time but never tested it?? I'm beyond READY for the Truth to come out! It's ridiculous
Codis won’t work has to be familial testing.
A lot more to this and odd in itself that the police ever said they were cleared. Too much to go into but listen to the case somewhere like The Lore Lodge. Don't rely on msm and certainly not netflix if you wish to know the ins and outs with no bias reporting.
It’s so obvious that there is no intruder
This was a waste. There was no discussion of the evidence and any connection to,the circumstances of the murder. Michael vail offers nothing of value. Vinnie, what are you doing??
Don't know who's the craziest, Oliva or his friend Michael
This can’t be a serious episode.
How come John didn’t mention any of this in his Netflix documentary
Theres no way it wasnt the mother who wrote the note. The type of people who would put their kids in a beauty pageant and take it very seriously are the type of people who are capable of much worse
How did he know she was dead though before anyone else did?
Exactly. No one seems to get the importance of this.
I think he did it ..I think he stayed hidden in that huge A$$ house and possibly JB knew of his intrusion and was afraid to get out of bed...hence the bed wetting. This man is supposedly mental and claimed he loved JB..possibly why she was covered up when they found her and maybe explains the heart drawn in her little hand... idk 🤷♀️
Gary has the same theory as me. Sad to say.
Gary has issues but dont think he did it.
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Poor Mr Ramsey and patsy the Colorado police put them thru hell they blew the investigation sloppy
It's either her dad accidentally hurt her bc she wet the bed, or her brother accidentally killed her and their parents didn't want to lose both their children. One to death and one to prison.
@mindovermatter0000 He would not have gone to prison. It is clear that Burke has some type of learning difficulty, there would be a strong defence for him ending her life accidentally.
@@mindovermatter0000😂He never did it. A 9 year old in prison?
@@mindovermatter0000 The DNA doesn't match anyone in the Ramsey family.
Simple exclusion of Gary O. is the $118,000.00 ransom mentioned in the ransom note. It doesn't seem like Gary O. traveled in the same circles that the Ramsey's did so how would he come up with that amount? $118,000.00 is the exact amount of John Ramsey's Christmas bonus. Doesn't add up.
Handwriting doesn't seem to match, DNA doesn't match...but ok
I’m halfway through. This is bizarre, if anything this confirms that this looney toon didn’t do it. Did you guys screen this at all?
Idk? The whole Gary O thing sounded really good initially when I first heard it... But watching this episode and Gary's so-called friend trying to get him to confession by weird manipulation tactics actually just creeps me out. I think Gary is very mentally ill. At this point I wouldn't be able to trust anything he said on those videos because he is being lead.
They are chasing someone who clearly is mentally ill. The reason the crime hasn’t been solved is because the one who committed the crime has died. It was Patsy. The note makes no sense if you want to blame Gary, it makes all the sense in the world that Patsy wrote it.
Dude is creepy AF!! I only question how he couldn’t be responsible for her death. What a freak
Thank you. Cannot be just "an intruder" due to the infamous ransom letter.
Disagree. I was typing a reply expressing my thoughts was pretty long. Then good old YT did the ad shite & erased my reply.
Not gonna try to say it all again. YT & it's ads, will happen again.
This needs to be solved!! So many that need to be solved.
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Its very, very, hard for me to believe the parents were not involved in the death of their daughter.
Load of nonsense why give it air time 😮
Vinnie politan put out a video a year ago that was about handwriting analysis. "The coupon" letter vs. the ransom note. I can tell you right now that the "confession letter" was not written by the same person that wrote the "coupon letter."
Linda arntd had such a strong instinct about the father and it seemed to be ignored.women should trust these instincts. Cant always be explained
Everything about Linda struck screamed "psycho-cop" to me. She did not handle that crime scene properly, no way should the father been permitted to roam around the house looking for the child while the police were there and no way should father been allowed to touch the child once her body had been located. That is just police work 101 and Linda got a big fail on all of that.
I think her instinct is correct. John Ramsey knew JB was there. He put her there. And to contanimate evidence he took here and brought her upstairs, An innocent person unaware of her injuries would never grab her up, a innocent person would scream for help first.
@@skychaser5591 So old JR outsmarted the Boulder police because he knew they were dumb and wouldn't do their job properly. Sorry, I don't buy that. DNA didn't match JR or his son so that dog don't hunt.
She also felt sorry sorry for her evil interview and apologized to Patsy before she passed
Why does Micheal Zorn sound so freaking gleeful when discribing his theory of the case to Gary Oliva? He sounds like a sick twitch.
In my opinion, the Ramson note may have been written by some teenagers at that time. I believe that having a three-page note is input by multiple people who are inexperienced but have seen TV crime programs. I believe that the teens may have been living near the residence of the Ramsays and maybe even know about the house layout. The reason why DNA was not able to be matched to anyone was because these teens may have some relation to the Police or hierarchy in that particular town. I think it is a police cover-up.
Patsy wrote the letter. Party would know details and since she was so close to the crime she took the time to write such a long letter. Both parents know the son did this.
Solid take. Yeah why do they not want this solved?
Omg please, your imagination has run riot🙄
There is no way her family desecrated their little girl. Before or after. An intruder hot in.
Yes I agree, it was someone they knew or someone who started stalking them. There’s no way the family did it.
So niave
@audreydaleski1067 I agree and the house was so huge who knows if this guy was possibly hiding somewhere in there!! Who's to say JB didn't see this man in her room at night possibly why she wet the bed afraid to get up out of bed !!! I threw out the brother theory when the autopsy said a thumb print the size of a mans thumb in her skull.. But..We don't know who did it..we just know this little girl needs her day of Justice!!
@@NayNayNTn50I never heard about the man’s thumb print! Very interesting.. kind of rules out the angry brother theory
Cant beat a bit of vinnie!!!!
I suspect this Vail character is going to write a book at some point to cash in.
So disappointed in you Vinnie!! My God! I've lost all respect for you.
Same.
Stop putting a label on this poor child 😢calling her a beauty queen my god .
Exactly! She was just a little girl. She deserved to live her life, not have it be taken. 😢❤
Patsy wrote the ransom note?
I see this as a public stunt. The guy just wants attention along with his friend, his theories don’t make sense. If the note was written after her death and her death was an accident then why even write it as kidnapping and not take the body dead or alive, and leave it there knowing someone would find her. This is a 5 year old body not a grown man’s body, it wasn’t hard to move it. This whole case has been botched from the beginning. Makes no sense, not a valid statement.
Vinnie, I totally believe in the Lou Smit theory but this is wack a doo stuff man!!! This guy isn’t the perp
Weird dad never mentioned any of this in his Netflix documentary, so who is lying vinnie ❓❓❗️❗️❗️❗️
Patsy wrote the note!!! There was no intruder!! Does anyone really think that Gary Olivia looks like the type of person to use the word “attaché”??? Come on… all we can hope for is a death bed confession from John Ramsey, at this point.
Those are my views as well, although I sense there are more than two individuals (that are still living) that know exactly what happened that night. But I highly doubt that any of them will ever step forward.
I think it would be worthwhile to compare what is known about Gary Oliva’s child crimes to see if any there are any similarities to what happened to JonBenet.
That’s mental illness, not a murderer. This is a massive stretch
I may be crazy but i feel like that Micheal Vail guy has something to hide, seems like he's to obsessed with that Gary guy taking the fall very suspicious to me
Just test the DNA!!!! Why won’t they do it!
Yeah I wish they would quit talking about it and just do the testing already.
Bc there’s evidence she was being assaulted /abused up to 10 days prior to her death. So the DNA might identify who was abusing her but won’t necessarily reveal who did this without a shadow of a doubt. And Boulder Police are likely terrified of getting it wrong or getting sued.
They did test Gary Oliva, suprise suprise The DNA didn't Match 😌
Gary Oliva has been ruled out AGES AGO, I don't understand why they bring him up again.
Yet they keep chewing on this same turt 💩
I thought they did.
@@brutallyhonest9218 It seems his friend Michael wants to convince people it's Gary Oliva
If he was really his friend he wouldn’t do this. I’m so upset Court TV would do a story like this. I thought this video would actually have some REAL UPDATES. Shame on anyone who takes advantage of people for a pay out.
I agree
If they have DNA I don’t understand why it hasn’t been solved?? 🤷🏼♀️
Because it has nothing to do with DNA
Waste of time. You disappoint with this garbage.
I don't believe this guy for a second. What a bunch of crap.
This case is so easy. People are overthinking this and have for nearly 30 years.
My theory: The killer (not murderer) was in the house for sure... and there were only 3 people in that house other than that poor little girl.
It wasnt a murder. It was a second of jealous, out-of-control rage by a spoiled boy... then covered up by unbelievably distraught and emotionally overwhelmed parents. I believe they attempted to make it look like a murder to put great distance between the boy and this crime. In some ways, I can't blame them. As a parent, I can't imagine being forced into making that decision.
The smoking gun has ALWAYS been that ridiculous "ransom" note. No one broke into that house. People, use your heads and stop blaming the boogeyman for this one.
I have to say I agree with you
Check the DNA of the business partners that were at the party earlier that night you will find the killer 😮
If your daughter is kidnapped, why would you then call 4 sets of friends to immediately come over? Any one or 2 of these friends could be the culprit!! How did John know to exclude them from suspicion? Also, if we assume an intruder broke in while the Ramseys were away at a dinner party and wrote the note while he waited for them to return, he then decides to strangle her instead - but also decides to change her underwear by going upstairs and just happening to find a new package of female underwear 3 sizes too big for JB, and dresses her in it. He also decides to cover her with a blanket and her favorite nightgown ( which he happens to know about) opens the dryer, and just so happens to find both items there. Makes zero sense.
We may never find out who did this crime
There is no reason other than either official corruption or incompetence why this case cannot be solved in 2025 if they really wanted to solve it but they don't.
Thanks to Boulder PD incompetence.
There was no intruder .. if there were we wouldn’t be talking about a paint brush handle it be something else. Js staged 💯!
Wrong, her brother did it and the parents covered it up
@@FrankieLanetteso where did the family obtain this foreign DNA?
Court TV I can't believe you take these 'smoke curtains' serious. Please dig into the parents.
The parents have been exonerated for years now, over and over again. That’s the reason they didn’t catch the actual killer, police had tunnel vision on the parents from word go and the real killer got away because of it.
And they have been exonerated with dna. The authorities already sent the father an I’m sorry letter. The mother passed away years ago from cancer. The parents didn’t do it.
I completely agree!!!!!!
Are you serious?? The parents have been dug into for 28 years. That’s why this case is still unsolved.
@@rifleman522 thank you....that was my point....nice there are still people out there with common sense when it comes to this issue. These parents were put through hell and the mother is dead thanks cancer, as I said. Leave the parents alone already. For anyone else who would think about liking the original comment, before you do, just try using that lump about three feet (give or take) above your rear end and think first.
They were MOT exonerated
Vinnie you can do better than give time to this guy. Can't finish watching this episode.
Oh god. Gary didn’t kill her. These two goons want to be the ones who are famous for figuring out who killed her.
We all know who did it.
His friend is leading him, I think this guy is vulnerable and clearly has issues. He maybe obsessed with her but he was impacted by this crime. His DNA doesn't match and unless their is evidence of more people involved how can it be him? Lots of circumstantial but need more than this.
IMO....this should have been solved long ago!!
The "investigation " was a joke!! F'd up from the start !!
The note was suspicious, I agree. But the more I have looked into it, & thought about it.
The family was away for hours, at Christmas party. I could see someone getting into the house. Possibly found paperwork about dad's bonus??
A lot of things not tested for DNA.
No doubt this guy (Gary) has some emotional & mental issues. Does not prove he's guilty, not saying he isn't, just saying.
The DNA testing John is trying to have done, needs to be done.
I've followed this case from the start.
I really think this can be solved. The DNA testing would be a good start.
It is very unfortunate how this crime was handled when it happened!! Allowing so many people into the crime scene, doing things that contaminated the house, evidence so much.
😢😢😢
It will be solved when John decides to tell us what happened
Also because the parents decided to call their friends and “luckily” the dad found the body. Oh” he checked his mail while waiting for the kidnappers call which by the way they never received and they even forgot the call never came in 🤔
I don’t hear this guy confessing. I hear a sick lonely man who’s fixated on an unsolved case. Now he worked in the area. Okay so maybe that makes him more obsessed. Now this other guy is pulling his answers which aren’t even answers. Let alone confessions. This guy is looking for $. Hope you didn’t pay him
He confessed 8 hours before the story broke to the press.
Blah blah blah shut the front door. The intruder theory is hilariously dumb.
No it is not. It makes more sense than anything else
It’s not the theory that’s dumb.
I hope this poor baby finally gets justice ❤. The PD completely botched the case and crime scene.
The crime scene was botched by the Ramsey family who filled the house with people, then "found" jonbonet's body and carried her upstairs before the police even got there.
Thank you Vinnie!
For nonsense
I'm sorry but Gary Oliva just seems like the "perfect Patsy" so to speak. They need to blame someone to keep everyone's attention diverted from the sickness that goes on in that town.
How did he have ransom note info specifically mentioning John’s exact bonus amount. Not making sense at all.
If someone got in my house while I was out they would be able to find financial information. They could find my last bank deposit. What’s so difficult about that?
That’s not feasible. Who would kill a child and stick around to look through deposit slips and stay also long enough to write a three page letter⁉️
If the note had specifically mentioned John's exact bonus, then the amount of $118,117.50 would've been stated.
What about the ransom amount how would he would of known??
Sick and attention seeking all the way around. I dont mean disrespect but what a bunch of crock.
Seems like this “friend” is doing this for clout
Also, what evidence do we have that this “friend” didn’t write this confession letter himself and blame it on the easy scapegoat, Gary Oliva? Who obviously has mental health issues and is a recidivist child predator, so can easily be blamed for this. I want to know if this “friend’s” DNA has been tested too.
@@kaiceylasher290 I want to know that too
Definitely 4 Clout because Gary's DNA 🧬 was indeed tested against samples from the crime scene and Gary Oliva was ruled out so... 😏
Pay attention people. He confessed before the story even broke to the press.
Are Gary's fingerprints on that "confession letter?" Are there any finger prints on it?
I do agree that the handwriting looks similar to the writing on the RANSOM NOTE. Albeit disguised by using all caps. But that looks more like Patsy wrote both letters, than Gary wrote both notes.
Just saying
This is all BS, This guy is trying to sell a book
I don’t think Gary did it. I think he wishes he did and what’s to take credit.
Enough of these nonsensical discussions and videos. When John is ready to come clean and tell us what happened, then we’ll know.
Imo, as long as both John and Burke are alive, no one would dare to try to solve this case! Too many law suit threats attached to solving it.
@ Bingo!
Anyone with a working brain knows that there was no intruder. It’s really pointless at this point unless John just wants to get it off his chest.
This isn't very believable. Sounds a lot like this guy is trying to push this deranged man into a false confession. I really hope they find out what happened to her but I don't think this theory holds water. 🤔
why is it impostant for Michael to keep repeating "he (Oliva) knows, I know'?
* PATSY *
Somebody on court tv needs to do an interview with frank and jim zell
Yes!!!
Was the DNA taken of the friend Michael?
I can't. We know who is responsible.
High school friend is lying I'm sorry because why the hell with this man call you about this specific little girl but he didn't call you when he R-worded the other little 7 year old girl before "Jon Benet?" Boy bye😒
This is shameful. Clearly exploiting a mentally I'll person for notoriety/money/clicks.
Does Gary have anyone in his corner representing him? If not, this is all deeply immoral.
So reckless not to make sure your home is secure. It all seems too convenient. She was not protected, their investment died.
People were not obsessed with home security 25-30 years ago. That is a much more recent thing.
@kathylelong3348 Recent?! No. ADT and many other security agencies go back a long way. Security is a personal choice. They failed. Granted this scruff is telling the truth, the mom obv covered for the son and covered it up w props. Thus, the bsmnt window...open. The ransom note. No DNA evidence.
@@kaemarie1605I bet you blame the other little girl in the area that was attacked too. Sad
You have to realize the time in which this happened. Smaller, safe town. People didn’t lock their doors. Heck, the town I grew up in people didn’t lock their doors until a girl I went to school with was murdered because her husband left one Saturday morning to get some supplies and left the door unlocked.
@mrnt1257 well that's my point, it only takes once.
In my opinion it was Burke and Patsy covered it up and John is unaware and innocent
Same kind of botched initial investigation in Sebastian Rogers case. People in n out of crime scene. That kind of thing
JonBenet was murdered by a sophisticated killer. Consider this a "Hit" by experienced assassin who knew layout of house, who was familiar with JonBenet's father's business dealings - eventhough ransom letter, inexplicable (handwritten?).
Written by Patsy
Brother did it. He lived in the home and patsy wrote the letter to protect her psycho son
@@FrankieLanette
I'm sure you shot your wad when you wrote that.
Dr Garry is amazing. Professional, knowledgeable but with a big ❤
Thank you
12:09 12:10 has anyone tested Michael's DNA?
Wondering the same thing
This guy did not do it. I don’t buy this story for one second. This poor little girl deserves better than all this.😢
Please ! I the friend tryna profit of it and he is. He’s probably got a book deal and all, the tv appearances bout start rolling in . And I wouldn’t be shocked if Gary o and the friend is/ use to date
No way did he do it. Imo. Those 2 guys chat rubbish 🗑
I’m not trying to be rude but could Gary really write a 3 page letter ? With perfect punctuation?
I feel sorry for the family knowing creeps like this have JonBenét’s photos. How sickening.
Vinnie, your excellent 😊😊😊😊love your videos xx
What the hell is this, nothing to do with the case.
How can this so called classmate continue to say that it's sad because this man is known to have S/A'd a little girl in Oregon. Weird!
Unbelievable
10:55 if that man answers ‘yes’ I’m disregarding everything he says thereafter because that dude is unwell, to put it politely. The bit where he repeatedly says “she is God, she’s GOD” sent chills across my body. No one in their right mind would feel safe in that room with that guy. Lol
Very off topic but Vinnie is looking VERY good! ❤❤
Agree!
@annmc-t7p 😍😍 xxx much love from the uk 🇬🇧 xxxxxxx
Yup he’s Hunky😊
Any friend of this sick person needs to be checked also… that fact he wear a suit doesn’t make him a good person
My daughter and granddaughter danced, wore makeup.