Testing Abloy 342
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- Update 2017:
ATTENTION ! Our video review of Pragmasis 13mm chain is no longer safe! A current video from the year 2017 shows how the Pragmasis (securityforbikes.com) 13mm chain is easily cut with a bold cutter !
Pragmasis 13mm bolt cutter test:
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Testing the Abloy 342 padlock and a Protector 13mm Chain from www.securityforbikes.com with a 900mm bolt cutter that cost us more than 300€ ;)
Wir testen das Abloy 342 Vorhängeschloss und eine 13mm Kette von www.securityforbikes.com mit einem guten 900mm Bolzenschneider.
![[916] Abloy 341 “Enforcer” Padlock Picked and Gutted](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/oxfUmcMzx08/mqdefault.jpg)
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![[593] Gallium vs. Titalium - Abus Padlock Meets a Gruesome End](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/jeghGhVdt9s/mqdefault.jpg)
He still had to use the key to remove the shackle,,the shackle will not spin when cut once so would have to be cut twice to remove the chain,, so would be difficult to find enough space on the shackle with those cutters to make two cuts
I'm sure one can turn the cut shackle to the side by using 2 large pipe wrenches. This puts a lot of leverage on the ball bearing locking mechanism, and will most likely deform it enough to turn the shackle. But making a second cut may be faster, and I see plenty of space for making 2 cuts.
Nice bolt cutter's, He still used the Key to open the padlock.
yes but you have 2 choices depending on how this is "mounted" or used.
Do another quick cut on the top, or wiggle them sidewayes to get the chain loop out and your done.
Either way the lock is bypassed.
This did however require a MASSIVE boltcutter.
Nobody will run around with this to steal things found on random.
This would be "i am taking that specific bike!" and then it dont matter what security lock you put on, there is a "bypass" either with violence or finess.
Time and opportunity are the only factors that matter.
Note that the cutting head of those cutters was already damaged after the first cut. In addition, you would need to be do two cuts to actually release the lock. And neither of those cuts could be at the middle.
I think we have to take into account them bolt cutters are real big and they also used the leaverage of the ground to apply enough force to cut it. even then it wasn't easy I would still use that lock and i would make sure it was off the ground.
Hello
excuse my English translation
It was so easy to the cut that I with my breast would have to make.
It would have been difficult, but I have tweaked it through.
It was amazing how easily it went out of the ground.
well so we are kidding :)
René
And wrong size chain. A proper chain would protect the shackle.
I have cut the Pewag 10mm security chain, much easier to cut in the air with 42” Irwin Record bolt cutters, because it is easier to use your weight on the chain. Small bolt cutters may not be good when the chain is in the air.
Bullshit my friend. The chain is good the padlock is not good for this chain, a Squire with 10mm closed shackle is better. But to be honest if the chain could fill the gap it would be better. So use Squire not Abloy. The padlock should be closed, a chain can not protect the chain.
Thanks for your review Adrian :) we appreciate it! We were quite convinced that we could have opened the padlock if we had cut it a second time. Just as you said, it should have worked, because the shoulder protection actually isn't protecting the lock from a bolt-cutter as the one we used.
Always a pleasure to work wit you guys! As soon as I have my Anchor Las padlocks here I will send you detailed pictures and let you know whether I believe the shackle is reachable or not!
+WeTestIt You could've cut through this within 3 seconds, for cheaper, b y using an electric portable hydraulic bolt cutter. Like butter. And the chain too.
isnt a good one of those able to cut this like 2500$
I think they were trying to be semi-realistic... when I go out to steal a bike, I dont bring my jaws of life/acetylene torch/portable grinder. Most idiots bring hardware store bolt cutters and ruin the jaws on the first try. Would be cool tho.
Hvguy
I just mean, they make portable electric hydraulic bolt cutters that are pretty much smaller and just as portable as normal bolt cutters, and for a thief, they will pay for themselves insanely quickly, as people can steal super expensive bikes.
I have a abloy enfourcer Lock and been useing it for my shed now for a while and it's the best Lock I've ever owned
lol
Cuts lock, uses key to free it.
/smh
I'm thinking it would have required a second cut to actually defeat the lock.
Lower down in comments they suggest snipping through a PL362 with its 15mm boron carbide shackle! This would be a world first if it could be done. As the 362 is known the world over as totally bolt cropper proof and thats a fact I believe.😎
I will eveluate the Anchor Las padlock and let you know whether the shackle is reachable or not. I have just talked to Steve from Pragmasis and will sent him the link to the video and also the detailed pictures I just took of the Abloy padlock. To free the chain from the padlock however you would have to cut the shackle on two spots but seeing how wide open the shackle is exposed this would have been no problem at all. Keep up the great work guys and thanks for the destroyed padlock!
So what's the conclusion? The chain is stronger than the lock? Why don't they make the lock from the same metal and of the same size as the chain? I've never understood that...
The diameter of the chain is 16mm and the diameter of the padlock's shackle is just 10mm.It makes a world of difference.The material used on the shackle of the padlock is in fact stronger than the chain even at 15mm diameter instead of the 16mm that the chain has.
@@giannistsoukatos4205 I cannot offer a professional engineering opinion on this, but from what I have researched, I do believe this statement is accurate.
Great work guys! This clearly prooves that design actually matters. I was always the opinion it would but others did not shar my opinion. Abloy concentrated very much on the cylinder with this padlock and also its drill protection. I myself believe that drilling on a padlock is very unrealistic because it would be difficult to hold it in place. Both the Squire SS50CS and the Anchor Las 833-3 have a thicker shoulder protection. The Squires shackle is impossible to reach when attached to the chain
Why would you test a lock when grading says it won´t take this kind of violence? It´s like saying toyota can´t accelerate as fast as ferrari. This test makes absolutely no sense.
It was great that he tested it. We saw what type of effort it took.
Let him try to cut the 362 model.The 342 that he cut down has a 10mm diameter shackle which is not considered as heavy duty or highest grade of security. The 362is a totally different animal with 15mm shackle diameter.He would need at least 5 times more force applied which is impossible.Even if he could somehow apply that level of force, i guarantee you that the bolt cutter will get destroyed first with a 2-3mm nick on the shackle of the padlock at best.
@@giannistsoukatos4205 don't trust too much in boron alloy shackles. They are hard but tend to shatter when attacked with sledgehammers for instance
Nice demonstation,
so I guess if we lock a bike in a way that the thiefs cannot exploit the leverage
using the ground (e.g. padlock high above ground), then we can secure ourselves
at least from thiefs using bolt cutters to steal bikes.
And if we combine a non expensive bike with this, they most certainly are not
going to destroy their expensive tools to get low cost bike, which would not
repay the cost of "destroyed" tools.
It would be also nice if Abloy made padlocks using the same material
as some of high end security chains are made out of.
Vielen danke für die video, mein herr. I am impressed with the chain, especially. Less so with the Abloy, but the 342 model only has a 10mm shackle. Perhaps the larger shackle on the 350 and 362 models would fare better in your test?
I can understand his wallet taking a pounding. That is a $200 lock in Australia to buy. Plus the loss of his bolt cutters. Perhaps you could go with the big boy abloy PL362 and pewag 10mm chain. A thief would have to be pretty keen to get through that. Angle grinder only I would say. And makes a lot of noise.
I am a little guy. With 42” Irwin Record it is not that hard to cut the Pewag 10mm security chain. It has a weakness when cut, you just cut it in the same place and it is gone. Try it and don’t believe american sellers of Pewag.
Try the 362 next time it is much bigger. And is a grade 6 padlock. Also, in regards to the 342 you can try it again when you dont have the ground advantage. (Where you can't use the ground for providing stable foundation.)
Nice test. I only miss information about type of (three-edged reversible) blades used. As it was said before the Bolt cutters are KRENN, model BA 020-K 12 (900mm). For those one you can use spare blades: "4 Chrome-Special, Hardness: HRC 57, 2.200 N/mm²" (KRENN part no. 00040). Good chains are case hardened (not through hardened) to around 61-63 HRC. I only miss information if those blades allow to cut HRC 57 steel rods (less likely but possible) or is it the hardness of the blades (most likely).
KRENN also offers blades "4 extra Hardness: HRC 62, 2.300 N/mm²" (Part no. 00050). Maybe those could fit to BA 020-K 12 bolt cutters (the same dimension?). According to KRENN site the HRC 62 blades are only for RI series of KRENN bolt cutters.
Maybe some other tool producer offer tungsten Carbide blades (HRC 78-80) of three-edge reversible construction as this becomes standard now. Anyway 13mm chain is overkill for most bolt cutters (too big diameter).
Steve mentioned that there is also a 110mm bolt cutter! But I believe the difference would not have been significant. He said in is own video "Pragmasis Protector Security Chains - Overview" that he is not able to cut it with these big bolt croppers but someone twice his size may be able to do it. I have never seen anyone achieving it though. The 11mm chain can be cut of course because it is just to thin to be 100% bolt cropper proof no matter how good the quality is!
A Real Thief Would Have To Cut The Lock In 2 Places To Get The Chain Off,
And Would Most Likely Not Have Expensive Bolt Cutters.
> It Would Be Easier To Grind The Last Link Of The Chain Off On Each Side,
So You Could Sell The Stolen Chain Too (missing 2 links)
Shaking my head at these idiots calling the lock bad just because it failed the exceedingly tough test. No lock is unbreakable if you have strong enough tools for it.
0:59 LMAO... note the towel on the ground, this guy cares more about the bolt cutter than the lock xDD
for not slipping?
That bolt cutter has rubber grips :)
Nox Noxx
translation Bing
Hi nox noxx,.
No, I have the towel for the bolt makers grips used so that the handles are not dirty :).
do not towel :).
wetestit
I was a bit upset when my Abloy lock ruined my 30 inch Record bolt cutters.More money down the drain.
This video came up because I recommended this lock to someone in a comment in another video. Here's my defense:
While it's disappointing that you were able to easily cut the shackle, the following points are worth considering:
1. I'm not sure most criminals would be using such a large expensive bolt cutter. I could be very wrong.
2. The scenario you used the lock in made for very easy access to the shackle. Not every scenario is like this. If you use this padlock on doors with a well-shielded hasp, you're probably not getting in very easily. So context matters.
3. As @MikkoRantalainen noted, you wouldn't have necessarily been able to access it after your cut without the key.
They must be good bolt cutters. I lost the key & my son used my 30 inch Record bolt cutters to try & cut an Abloy lock with about a 9-10mm shackle. The jaws of the bolt cutters broke with about a 6mm chunk taken out of the jaws. A 5 inch angle grinder cut the lock.
With the possibility of breaking the actual bolt cutter jaws, Abloy locks & similar quality locks of 10 mm & greater diameter probably are best cut with angle grinders in a non -criminal need to open occasion where noise & sparks don't matter.
I've just purchased a Protector 19mm chain & an Abloy 362 for my Fiancée to keep her Yamaha 600 safe.
Protector chain 2.. Bolt cutters 0.
Will the 19mm chain fit in the shackle clearance of the Abloy 362? I think no? Can you confirm, please?
Да я его болгаркой пильну за 5 секунд !
Sadly, in 2014 very few serious thieves would go around with boltcutters at all. A mains diamond grinder would do the job in a few sec.
menemme the noise factor though..
I have a Pewag 1/2 inch chain and a Abus Rock padlock...hopefully slows the criminals down, giving me time to load my shotgun!
Will the Abus 37 RK/80 lock the 1/2 inch Pewag chain? That would by my choice it it will close & lock.
England people are allowed to have shotguns?
@@josephtucciarone6878 I think the shackle guard might be too high for that combination; you'd probably only be able to get one link in. I do know that online sellers in the US offer that same chain in combination with the ABUS 37/70, however.
NOPE.
The 13mm Chain is not " easily cut". in the mentioned succeeded try, it is fastened against a heavy-duty workbench, same as the ( way bigger than your ) Bolt Cutter thats breaking it - which is again worked almost down to its grasp by a heavy-duty tension belt, and not human hands. under no street conditions will you be able to break it, especially the afforded 2 times per chain link.
That Guy himself admitted that you would have a hard time keeping even an angle grinder in position without a fastened chain link, thus enlonging the needed time to get through it substancially, to a point where your grinder disk would possibly break.
If you update, do your research properly - Pragmasis are way worth the price.
If it's the shackle you guys want protected, hidden and not exposed, why not just use a shutter/straight shackle lock, like the ones from Viro, Abus or Mul-T-Lock? Those should be a lot harder to crop.
Put a NUT on the Abloy Padlock to fill the gap between the links and it will be impossible for the Bolt Cropper to get at it... You know have a Bolt Cropper Proof Abloy with the simple addition of a large NUT.
That is an excellent idea, mate. Thank you. However, one would need a nut made out of very hard steel. I'm not sure where to get one.
IDK why people think those abloys are the best padlocks.. they all can be cropped by hand even the 362. Given the wide shackle clearance and the short guards, that leaves enough room for a high tensile 42 incher or a 49 inch Krenn to crack the shackle even if it's locked to something
So the chain is of better quality than the padlock? What is the hardness of the padlock shackle vs the hardness of the chain?
Lol 342 is small...u can use 350 above
I dont know how anyone could expect a 10mm shackle to resist the highest quality long bolt cutters with brand new blades. It is just too thin no matter how high the quality is. To resist boltcutters you 13mm+ ideally 16mm which is the only chain pragmasis & almax claim to be crop resistant. And remember that ALL chains/padlocks, even the 22mm chain that weighs 1kg per link. Can be cut easily with powertools, and with a little patience using a hacksaw with a quality blade. Locks are only deterrents, that buy you some time when a thief attacks. Just a few minutes if the thief is skilled. But never underestimate the value of a visual deterrent. Our houses have only glass windows, yet no one breaks in and steals your stuff when all it would take is a pebble to smash a window.
Also for a crop resistant padlock, the 10mm shackle would be fine if you had shackle protection, which is what padlocks designed for use with chains usually have, even low cost ones.
@@dfpguitar That is indeed why the Abloy PL350 and PL362 were made...
So a hardened chain can be cut with a hacksaw? What kind of blade are you using? It should not be cut even with quality blades.
Hey, weis nicht ob du noch aktiv bist, aber kannst du mal dieses Texlock Schloss mit nem ordentlichen Bolzenschneider, Zange, Säge, Flex testen??? Die versprechen sehr viel aber deren Tests überzeugen mich nicht...
Der Bügel hätte aber ein zweites mal durchschnitten werden müssen, um die Kette vom Schloss zu befreien. Der Bügel ist aber so frei erreichbar, dass dies gar kein Problem dargestellt hätte...
No matter what you buy , the thief WILL find away of taking your valuables. If you can deter,slow them down and make it awkward for them, you stand a greater chance of them leaving your valuables alone and picking off someone else's items who didn't bother trying or made a vain attempt of securing them.
Chain like this is typically just cut with a portable angle grinder or a abrasive chop saw... Have never seen a chain or lock that could withstand the grinder for more than 2 min. I have even watched my friend who is a firefighter cut a serious lock off a hasp with a gasoline powered abrasive saw.
De que material sonlos eslabonesde tu cadena, que marca o tienda vende esa cadena???
Probiert das mal beim abloy 362, musst aber immernoch den Schlüssel benutzen ;)
Und das ein 2tes mal schneiden hätt ich gern gesehen mit deinem verzogenen bolzenschneider, mal abgesehen davon ist es keine Option für einen Dieb so einen langen Bolzenschneider mit sich herumzutragen.
what padlock you recomend for this chain?
i think abus granit 37/55 would do better
He could have tried Kreen- Bolt cutters series R1 BA-240-R1 16 with series 3 edged reversible blades for series R1 with a hardness of HRC 62 for the R1 cutter blades and 1,250 mm handle length for the bolt cutters.... .Would be interesting to see if that would have worked lol
Vielleicht, sollte hier mal ein ABUS GRANIT 37RK/80 getestet werden?
Es würde mich sehr interessieren, ob der Bolzenschneider hier auch so ein leichtest Spiel hat?
Vielleicht, wird das hier mal veröffentlicht?
wird es von meiner seite aus nicht mehr geben da der kosten aufwand zu hoch ist;)
Google translator:
Hello
I try nothing more because the much money costs;)
Why so complicated? An portable grinder opens everything and is quite cheap, maybe 80$. Noise may be a problem, but quickness helps.
nice video....
continue testing !? how about abloy 362 and abloy 350 ? :)
hello,
my english is very bad.
i try it with translater.
So to the abloy 362/350:
I have the abloy 362 not tested but I'm sure the abloy 362 with a bigger bolt cutters can be cracked.
It doesn't matter whether 10mm or 15mm.
I cut it with a bigger bolt cutters easily.
Since I am with the bolt cutters use an other greater schneidehärte(HRC).
which I will not name because it would be easier for the thieves.
but it doesn't matter because you simply flex can use one and thus you get each material :).
in our video, it's gone very very easy to cut the abloy.
I have am beginning thought that it will be very hardly but it was very easy.
I have this little power it used.
I think you may be a padlock build it all bolt cutters can withstand but there were not many people buy because it too expensive at the market would be.
forget about the brand.
but inform yourself better to the material the companies (brands) use for the padlock.
Farrell
and if you have the material then ask a specialist with stealing are all kinds auskennt.und ask whether this material against one resists bolt cutters.
Until now is me no padlock known that a bolt cutter can withstand.
Well we are screwed shut by many manufacturers just
ABUS is known for his shit :).
Really find out more about the material and then ask a specialist who knows so :)
so I did it :)
so, you don't sure much money friends :).
René
:)
what do you think about the Xena XSU Lock - 18mm - Chrome Steel U-Bar lock with alarm?
translator google:
Hello,
it's a joke concluded this;)
no security and the alarm does not deter the predator.
wetestit
Why use PL342 which only has 10 mm shackle if you're going to use 13 mm chain? PL352 would have had 14 mm shackle and PL362 would have 15 mm shackle.
How will this test handle against the Abloy PL362?
hello,
my english is very bad.
i try it with translater.
So to the abloy 362:
I have the abloy 362 not tested but I'm sure the abloy 362 with a bigger bolt cutters can be cracked.
It doesn't matter whether 10mm or 15mm.
I cut it with a bigger bolt cutters easily.
Since I am with the bolt cutters use an other greater schneidehärte(HRC).
which I will not name because it would be easier for the thieves.
but it doesn't matter because you simply flex can use one and thus you get each material :).
in our video, it's gone very very easy to cut the abloy.
I have am beginning thought that it will be very hardly but it was very easy.
I have this little power it used.
I think you may be a padlock build it all bolt cutters can withstand but there were not many people buy because it too expensive at the market would be.
forget about the brand.
but inform yourself better to the material the companies (brands) use for the padlock.
Farrell
and if you have the material then ask a specialist with stealing are all kinds auskennt.und ask whether this material against one resists bolt cutters.
Until now is me no padlock known that a bolt cutter can withstand.
Well we are screwed shut by many manufacturers just
ABUS is known for his shit :).
Really find out more about the material and then ask a specialist who knows so :)
so I did it :)
so, you don't sure much money friends :).
René
WeTestIt
Wie wird dieser Test gegen den Vorhangsschloss "Abloy PL362" gehen?
WeTestIt
Sorry...I just saw you answered it :)
WeTestIt
Ich frage immer Adrian Weber, ein Sicherheitsspezialist, über die verschiedenen Vorhängeschlösser und ihr Material. Er sagt, dass 15mm Fesseln/Bügelen kann nicht mit jeder Art von Bolzenschneider durchtrennt werden! Ist das so in Ihrer Meinung nach??
Ben Dover Hello
Yes adrian weber is right.
You can not tweak with each bolt cutter 15 mm through.
because there are enough fucking bolt cutters.
also my bolt cutters to 300 euro was no good quality because he was poorly welded to seed after my investigation.
But if I have a bolt cutter which can cut up to 16 mm then I'm short shrift 15 mm bracket from an ABLOY.
but just because I cut the real HRC hardness use :)
My bolt cutters was suitable only for 8-10 mm.
Furthermore you need to cut a certain hardness (HRC) so you clamp the ABLOY can tweak through.
René
can you fit a 16mm or a 19mm chain on this? i mean 2 links.
I have no idea what you're saying, but the video is great. Thanks for sharing.
With a 13mm chain and a nut in the middle cutting with boltcutters is not possible. Also this would need 2 cuts as the padlock locks by ball bearings on both sides
Wow!
Interesting video! Thanks for sharing your test!
For me this tool is thing from the past.... 3 uses and the dents are damaged.. and where I get replacement.. better a simple angle grinder
Please, test de ABLOY PL 362 with the same method.
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Hello,
I'll abloy not tweak or test with a bolt cutter 362nd
that costs a lot of money.
wetestit
He said no, the PL362 costs a lot of money.
Abloy have their own testing facilities to ensure they achieve the highest standard ratings in lock strength. I doubt they will hand out free padlocks just because you have a RUclips channel.
I don't belong to WeTestIt, but you seem to belong to Abloy...
I don't mean to sound like that, I don't work for them. I have premises I wanted to secure with a bunch of Abloy padlocks; about 10 of them keyed-alike. It cost a lot so I did my research on their products before I chose them. I'm pretty happy with them. :)
I wonder if you could cut a 362?
Bing Translator:
You can also cut Abloy 362.
Abloy 362 is only slightly thicker than the Abloy 342.
The material from the Abloy 362 is the same as that of Abloy 342.
The material used for Abloy is absolute bullshit!
The 362 is 15mm. The 342 is 10mm. That is 50% thicker.
@@rsilvers129 He would barely scratch the 362 if his bolt cutter does not get destroyed in the process.He would have to apply many times more force and even if he could somehow do it he would have his bolt cutters destroyed and good only for scrap.
@@wetestit2759 Really? It is absolute bullshit?The carbide insert on your bolt cutter was heavily dented after the attack on a 10mm shackle.Bullshit?That is why you are using your hole body weight as a leverage and carbide interchangeable jaws on the cutter, because it is bullshit?Try more 10mm diameter padlocks and tell us which one will not be cut at that diameter against this cutter.We can also hear you panting from the effort buddy.You have enough money to buy a 250+€ bolt cutter, a 60€ padlock for this supposed test, but you somehow could not afford another 100€ for an upgrade on the pl362 model, right? Haha.You can go to ebay right now and get a pl362 for about 80-90€total cost together with shipment and that is the biggest amount you could get it for. I got one last year for a total of 45€.Less than the 342 model is sold on locksmith shops.In other words, no excuses, get the real deal that you should use for this test and upload it so that we can all see your bolt cutter get destroyed live from a supposed bullshit padlock.
@@wetestit2759 Nein, ich denke nicht, dass dies die richtige Schlussfolgerung ist. Ein dickerer Schäkel kann in der Tat alles sein, was in diesem Fall benötigt wird.
Klasse Video Leute! Das werde ich gleich mal etwas bekannter machen und in einem gängigen Forum posten. Steve und ich erwähnten ja am Anfang bereits unsere Bedenken beim 342 von Abloy. Dies ist eindeutig ein Design Fehler und beweist das Design auch sehr wichtig ist und nicht nur der Kern eines Schlosses. Sicherlich ist der Kern (Protect 2) immer noch spitzenklasse, aber Abloy konzentrierte sich bei diesem Schloss rein auf die Verbesserung und den Bohrwiderstand des Kernes.
Try that against the "ABUS 37RK/80 KD Granit".
Would you be so kind as to let me have the cut lock and key?
tough ass lock steel if it took bolt cutters that size and about 20 seconds of good work to actually get the thing cut
and the key...
With that much leverage its never gonna be an issue
Dies ist aus meiner Sicht ein großer Fehler gewesen, reicht doch die Bügel Protection nicht weit genug nach oben und deckt den Bügel damit nicht genug ab! Dies kann einem mit dem Squire SS50CS Grad 4 mit sehr starkem Bügelschutz, nicht passieren. Ein erreichen des Bügels ist bei diesem unmöglich (siehe mein Präsentationsvideo). Bei dem Anchor Las 833-3 Grad 4 Schloss dürfte dies auch nicht möglich sein, dies muss ich mir aber erst genauer einsehen!
what did he use a bolt cutter name ?? who can tell me ?
с такой штукой ( болторезом) по улице ходить и даже в рюкзак не поместиться ... откусить и уехать с ним , адже не знаю как болторез на себе или на велосипеде можно закрепить. а если я повешу замоку на высоте 50 см от земли тогда не сможешь упереться всем телом и откусить. Тобишь навесные замки обычно не лежат на земле а висят на какой-то высоте попробуй откусить на высоте 45 см от земли ? не откусишь :)
Awesome. The shackle was hard enough to fracture the carbide bit at least. That's a big chain. Adrian was right, you need the Anchor Las. Please film that one when you get it! Well done!
hello,
thank you:)
rene
Can you tell me exactly how would the same grade Anchor Lås differ from Abloy? Also exactly how this test in your opinion is truly practical in any way? They knew from the very beginning that protection level is not enough for those huge bolt cutters.
google tranlater:
hello,
Please ask the Lord adrian weber when it comes to the anchor read and abloy.
he can ask them to answer this :) better than me.
Besides others, he speaks very good English and German :).
ruclips.net/user/diceman1367
no I did not know whether the bolt cutters with this hardness can tweak by iron.
believe me, I was surprised and then very disappointed as butter easy it is gone :).
wetestit
Wie erwartet, ging das Schloss durch wie Butter. Eine 19 mm Kette hätte eigentlich geknackt werden müssen-
Enttäuschend ist die Qualität vom Bolzenschneider. Bei dem Preis hätte ich mir eine besseres Ergebnis erhofft-
Danke, für das Video....👍🤘
stimmt es war ein sehr schlechter bolzenschneider um viel geld ;)
eher ein marketing bolzenschneider war das mehr nicht.
ich hatte mir auch gedacht umso teuer umso besser.
heute weiß ich das die geometrie von diesem KRENN bolzenschneider so konstruiert wurde das dieser durch zu hohen druck schnell zerstört wird.
also ein tipp von mir ja keinen KRENN bolzenschneider kaufen.
andersrum mit einem STUBAI bolzenschneider hätte ich das bügelschloss und die kette mühelos durchgeschnitten. weil der stubai eine sehr massive geometrie aufweist. und selbst wenn die stahlhärte der schneidebacken ein wenig schwächer als beim KRENN aufweisen hätte ich beide durchgeschnitten weil man mit einem stubai extrem viel druck ausüben kann. diese tolle erfahrung habe ich einmal mit einem kleinen STUBAI bolzenschneider gemacht und bei einem bügelschloßdurchmesser was für den stubai viel zu groß war angesetzt und versucht durchzuzwicken. habe es eh nicht geschafft und der bolzenschneider war hin. doch wieviel druck ich ausüben habe können war schon faszinierend. und das liegt an der guten massiven geometrie die stubai hat.
Hallo, und guten Abend. Ich hätte niemals vermutet, dass ein so teurer Bolzenschneider sich derart verbiegt. Vielleicht hätte hier mal einen Knipex 910mm Bolzenschneider testen sollen. Das Teil liegt bei ca 130 Euro.
Beim Bügelschloss würde ich es mal mit einem Abus Granit 37/ 80 probiert.
Hier liegt die Bügelstärke bei 14 mm.
Vielleicht machst du bald Video? Da bin ich gern dabei...
Mit freundlichen Grüßen 🤓🤘
Can a diamond wheel grinder cut Abloy 341 shackle does anyone know, tnx.
Beide Schlösser, dass Abloy und das Squire haben auch einen integrierten Bohrschutz, jedoch halte ich ein Anbohren bei einem Hangschloss als sehr unwahrscheinlich, da dieses ja von nichts gehalten wird, würde sich ein anbohren als recht umständlich erweisen. Das Anchor Las 833-3 L hat sogar den Bügelschutz an vier Seiten genau wie das Squire. Eine detailierte E-Mail ist auf dem Weg und sobald das Anchor Schloss da ist werde ich dich weiter auf dem Laufenden halten. Super Video!!! :)
Teste mal das Squire ss50cs ist krass. Gibt es auch als 60 oder 80 oder 100cs.
lol aloy 340- 10mm chain with 13mm need ploy 350
They should make the lock shackle out of the same material as that chain!
+artgoat Magic word "sledge-hammer" ;) . I would like to see, what sledge-hammer makes that very hard steel chain.
22hadis Maybe, but high moly-content steels can be VERY tough without being brittle like high carbon steels.
+J.L Hoffy Good point. motorcycles should be parked in trees away from the ground.
Interessant, eigentlich sollte das Abloy Schloss gehärteter Stahl sein... Denke ich jedenfalls.
Den Bolzenschneider hätte ich zurück geschickt... Ich kenne das eigentlich nur von den Billig teilen...
interessant ist es nicht denn wir werden von den meisten hersteller ja von vorn bis hinten belogen damit die firma überleben kann:).
abloy ist damit aber nicht gemeint doch das es nichts mit sicherheit zu tun hat wissen wir jetzt:).
abloy schreibt ja auf deren seite nicht das es gegen bolzenschneider standhält.
zumindest habe ich nichts davon gelesen.
doch das Ihr video von abloy für mich eine verarschung ist ist klar zu sehen:).
ruclips.net/video/Yh46F3we1-M/видео.html
was glaubst warum die firma BODEPANZER(adrian kennt sich mit der firma aus:) nicht lange überlebt hat.
weil die teuer waren und somit sich nicht über wasser halten konnten doch ihre zylinder sind unpickbar.
siehe selbst:)
www.google.at/search?q=bode+panzer&espv=2&biw=1046&bih=638&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=hCk0VLGuDcj3O5TagfAP&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=MT9OqVlhCXYugM%253A%3BNKrP_nzHYBrmiM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fsavepic.org%252F113868.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.dverizamki.org%252Fforum%252Findex.php%253Ftopic%253D10747.0%3B580%3B425
schreib mal den Adrian weber an der kann dir einiges über solche sachen schreiben.
hier der link: ruclips.net/user/diceman1367
wetestit
Die Einbrecher haben ja auch alle so ein Bolzenschneider dabei, meisten sind es die kleinen teile... Ist dennoch interessant!
ZiIkon ist schon ein sehr guter Hersteller genauso wie BKS und Kasp.
Abus verdient sein Geld nur mit dem Namen...
What bolt cutters are they ?
translation BING
Hi ryan chalk,.
I give no tips with what bolt cutters you can crack security locks: :).
wetestit
Harbor freight........ kidding.
www.bnproducts.com/tools/bnbc-36-bolt-cutter/
That is one tough lock!
a carbide rod saw or a grinder with a cut off wheel should get through that chain.
and wake up everyone in a big radius in the process.
i think that, if a thief ends up using a grinder, the chain has done its job perfectly
use a bunnings portable grinder with cutting disks
Why can't Abloy make the padlock as strong as that chain. Lame. Amazing chain!
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Hello
that was our first test.
I'm not sure.
wetestit
They Do Make One > > > It Is Called An
ABLOY PL362N
You are comparing apples and oranges mate.The chain has a 16mm diameter while the pl342that is used in this test is of 10mm diameter in shackle.The pl362is the padlock for this application and he would barely scratch it with a bolt cutter as it has a 15mm diameter in the shackle.
@@giannistsoukatos4205 Apples and watermelons.
Where is your eye protection?
Warum haben die den Schlossbügel so dünn/schlecht gemacht.... kompletter fail das Teil
Just use a cordless grinder , with a zip disk.. on the pole, 15 to 20 sec's max..
Title in English, video in German. Why?
War aber ein teurer Test 😊
Schade um den Bolzenschneider.
8mm vierkantkette von Abus hatte den bolzenschneider meines Vaters auch zerlegt😁
ja ich weiß ;)
Woah, 300EUR bolt cutters. Amazing what you can pay for a good tool.
Норм защита, цепь не пролезет через разлом, один хер открывал замок ключом. а для второго разлома не подлезешь. А если еще цепь будет на весу а не на земле- еще трудности
Warum?
very small plasma cutters out there that would have cut that really fast and with very little noise and light.. just saying
Bolt cutters KRENN, model BA 020-K 12
He ruined the cutting edge of that California Credit Card and that lock snapped under pressure, it looked like a bad casting in the shackle, grainy in the middle, porous. I think the shackle was defective or the lock was bought off ebay.
Try it on abus and onguard chains 🖐️🖐️🖐️🖐️🖐️🖐️
Abloy should make the shackles out of chains like this !!!!
Nice video WeTestlt this video must have cost you at least $350? I think its a very kind deed to sacrifice your money in order to break the myth that there is a magic cut proof lock combo. I hope some of the people watching this reconsider their parking. It really seems to suck ass when you wake up and your shit is gone. Again thank you sir I will share this video and hopefully send some views your way.
Hello my friend testing molybdenum.pad lock.
A60 schlage molybdenum.....
Ok, so WHO is carrying around croppers like that to burn a bike?
a bike lol ? That lock alone would cost more than your bike
@@badhero88 Actually, it would depend entirely on your bike. My bike cost 10 times what the lock cost...
Probably not many. Especially when battery-powered angle grinders are available.
Strong padlock i would rather cut the chain rather than cutting the padlock. 🤔
the best lock is "NO lock"
locking things gives false security
I have seen a boat anchor cutter (Hydo) go through any chain or lock in seconds
4 pumps on the handle and the chain etc is cut , not strain and little noise
Hello
excuse my English translation
well so we are screwed.
René
U ruined a perfectly good lock! :O
Excellent!
20 volt grinder will take care of that in no time.
and wake up everyone in the process.
if it gets to a grinder, its a win for the chain, since it will alarm everyone, including the owner.
ok deleted from the list...fuck i cant find a strong padlock with a good antipicking mechanism. Most of the locks are picked in 30 seconds from guys on youtube. I thought maybe this was the one. Thia was cut like butter. 362 is expensive as fuck.
Size of those bolt cutters ... No padlock in the world will survive them.
oh don't worry, if they let me design one it would survive it.
👍👍👍👍👍
Ok, well- he had the key. Even when he snipped it= still wouldn't have done anything. You'd need to cut from each side or the shackle would still remain in the body. Also= look at the size of the fucking cutters? Nothing is Impenetrable. Period. That, being said, I wouldn't be upset if someone defeated my padlock if it was that.