Very nice "Duckbill" regular. Too bad the serial # tag is gone, but if you had time you would see the serial number stamped into the frame rails. The serial # would include a "N" for the narrow gauge. The stamping of the serial numbers are a little bit larger the the tag that was mounted to the tool box. Fenders were optional and appear to be correct. I think the "Wide Narrow" as I call them are the coolest of the cool when it comes to the "Regular's" and Farmall "F" series
The serial on the left frame rail should show if it is an original wide front narrow tread tractor. The "duckbill" was a later feature and carried over into the F20s and F30s for a couple of years. The only thing that throws me off is the red paint. It looks original but Farmalls were gray until 1935. A dealer repaint maybe? On the fuel tank you can see a small rectangle above the Farmall decal. The regulars did NOT have that since that small rectangle was the number designation for the F series.
Later they put a sign on it stating it was a 1928 Regular. Though that doesn't make sence for the duckbill steering. I had to do some reading up on it after seeing it, it is a narrow tread, same as the F20 that replaced it. Seems they were popular in some areas depending on row spacing and irrigation practices. A very cool tractor!
Narrow tread regular... with lots of F-20 options. These two models shared alot of parts because of their similarities. Check out "Deering Dave " Regular and F20 ccomparison. Thanks for your video... never been to MN!
We asked for more and you deliver! What a lovely interesting example, hopefully some of the more 'nerdy' viewers will fill you in on the anomalies in this one. Thanks for sharing, Toby.
28 regular would have been original with the open face gears on the steering. These were a bit brittle & were prone to cracking under hard use. The duck bill front bolster is a replacement but wide fronts are a pretty rare item today, and pricey when you find one. The narrow tread width is 11 inches narrower than a standard, and the wheel spacing on the wide front only matches a narrow tread rear axle. The rear wheels were called Texas style wheels. Many pre- production prototype Farmall regulars were field tested in Texas and the wheels were an early development due to the thick gumbo clay soils here in cotton country. Lister plows were also tested extensively. Thanks for the walk around !!!
Dad had a regular. The cable brake steer wasn’t on it, so there was a set of vise grips that lived on the right side brake actuator rod. I never drove it, but my brother did. Rule of thumb was to keep the thumbs out of the spokes, especially when turning across the furrows. Pulled a two bottom trip plow.
It may be a version of a f20 I have seen them with narrow rear end before. The heisler unit may be actually a underdrive unit to slow it down for pto work they were quite fast in first gear even
@aserta my dad grew up on F20.farmall and he said on the farm they had 3 of them and no 2 were the same different tire size and one had over drive box . Then every farm auction we went to he points out all the different designs of them
Looking at that and the first thought that came to my head for the rears. Was: " That has to be a rice tractor. Rears that are in line with the front. Self cleaners that look remarkably like similar wheels found on tractors in like the Philippines and other places. Covered steering gear box, just screams Rice field tractor." Whether true or not is entirely speculation on my part. All together it's a unique unit that surely would tell a story that begins with: "Back when I was new..." If it could talk that is.
I think the front bolster has been replaced with one from an f-20. Lot of other parts seem added later. Like fenders and the rear steel wheels. Patina doesnt seem to match. Was repainted red at some point. There were no red regulars. Only the dark grey and red wheels.
Looks like a narrow tread regular that had the front bolster replaced with that of an early F20. Not terribly uncommon for parts to have been switched around in the last 80+ years. Was definitely an old repaint like the vast majority of gray IHC’s ended up getting sprayed red when they came back to the dealer on trade. The dealers also ran a red repaint special to give a makeover to the older models.
The serial number is visible at 1:25. It's in the 65000 range, so a 1929. The wide front was not available in 1929, but apparently became available as a retrofit part in 1934, the same time it was available on the F-20. So I guess there's no way to tell if it's a retrofit from back in the day, or just taken from an F-20 more recently. A narrow tread regular is much rarer than a narrow tread F20, but most of both would have still been narrow front. The wide front for narrow tread is a holy grail part even without the tractor.
I just got the feeling one of the owners saw some parts in a catalog and ordered them up to trick out his ride. The fenders appear far newer than the rest, the steering being so unique and enclosed attached to the 'Y' front .... I don't even think those were offered as options. Back then it was "buy my perfect machine! or go find some other". So.... was J.C. Whitney in play back then? I know Sears and Montgomery Wards sold a lot of tractors and farm equipment, as well as the old Hardware Stores.
Those break cables were primarily used for, plowed ground , cause narrow front will not turn in plowed ground the front end would dig in and keep going straight,they used them cables to pull the break in plowed ground because of the hand breaks, just to say that when you went to make a turn both hands had to say on the steering wheel, so they made that cable system to pull the break for you,
Like others have said in the comments, it's (likely) a narrow F20, my theory being that the owner had it respecced back at the dealer, given that it still has the original pulley wheels and bits. Regardless, very cool unit, thank you for the walkaround.
Not sure if duck bill front ends were ever put on late regulars from factory. If not, this wide front came from an F-20. Or from later replacement parts for the F-20 series. The fenders appear to be right for a regular. Not many were sold with the fender option, or left on if they were. So when fenders are seen, they just look odd because few have them. I have seen similar rear wheels. Only being different by the lug. The ones I have seen have had the cross angle bars bolted on instead of the lug option. The mag may also be an F-4 from an F-20. Hard to tell for sure being covered over by tin for rain protection. But the rear of the mag appears to be F-4. The steering cables are missing, and likely because they really wouldn't be of much use with a wide front. Probably wouldn't be able to turn sharp enough to get much turning action out of the brakes. Cool tractor. Thanks for posting. Never the less, there is some rare features here.
It’s just a manually controlled spark timing that does the same job as the centrifugal advance flyweights that I went through in the newer Farmall H on the channel here. In a nutshell, the faster the engine runs, the sooner the spark needs to fire in relation to piston position. When the engine slows back down, the spark needs to happen a little bit later - on these early tractors it was the operator’s job to manually adjust the spark timing to keep the engine running smoothly 👍
Toby try to imagine the wheels polished by usage like the sweeps and disc on a plow. You got to know that they were shinning. High tech in those days. Many a mule lost their jobs when this hit the market.
The rear wheels are interesting. You mentioned bolt on lugs to the basic wheel skeleton type frame. That means other options could have existed for "bolt on" features. The problem is that I cannot immediately think of what other bolt on features may have existed for a skeleton type wheel. Perhaps other viewers may have some ideas.
I agree, very interesting. maybe I will see it this weekend in the rice county show even though their feature I believe is MM. I might even get to go to the white pine show.
Lots of things don't add up here. Its a Regular so it would have been Farmall Gray. I'd say someone either bought the upgrades thru a dealer or it got a salvage yard upgrade. Lots of early tractors got dealer upgrades and repaints. Either way its still cool.
I was thinking the same thing - either it had a lot of later F-20 “upgrades” or somebody built a Frankenstein tractor - and did a very good job because it’s a really sharp looking unit 👍
Yes that’s the problem with those, will boost the PTO and belt speed. A lot of these Heislers were a 1:2 ratio which doubled the speed input to the trans. So more for saving time running out and back to the field rather then pto work.
That is one odd but interesting tractor. I don't think someone just out of interest hacked to tractors together this seems like a factory deal with a few additional options. The sleketon wheels are interesting usually you see full iron wheels on IH that where sold in Europe from that era.
I love the Indiana Jones outro. You just got to keep that one. Both you and Indie try to seek and save treasures and artifacts from the past. It's just you....
9 AM tuesday looks like you are getting some rain what about the white letters on frame of irregular Farmall also I would guess the extra unit in drive train is a reduction gear unit for like a cripper gear
Yep just finished recording a quick episode showing the drains in action, stay tuned! 👍 It made me a bit late getting to the morning’s computer work though, so last night’s upload is due to hit the feed shortly 😎
The next day there was an incredible F-14 that showed up right next to this one that had every factory attachment I’ve ever seen plus a few that I never even knew existed, but by then it was so loud and crowded that I couldn’t get a good walkaround of it. That one was supercool too 👍
😆 🤔 did you see a red shed in this vid? Only tractors eh 👍 But I could be wrong, may be more nefarious skulduggery afoot than my spidey senses indicating 🤷♂️😝✌️
You seem to be a magnet for magically finding such unique tractors.
Thanks for sharing.
Very nice "Duckbill" regular. Too bad the serial # tag is gone, but if you had time you would see the serial number stamped into the frame rails. The serial # would include a "N" for the narrow gauge. The stamping of the serial numbers are a little bit larger the the tag that was mounted to the tool box. Fenders were optional and appear to be correct. I think the "Wide Narrow" as I call them are the coolest of the cool when it comes to the "Regular's" and Farmall "F" series
The serial on the left frame rail should show if it is an original wide front narrow tread tractor. The "duckbill" was a later feature and carried over into the F20s and F30s for a couple of years. The only thing that throws me off is the red paint. It looks original but Farmalls were gray until 1935. A dealer repaint maybe? On the fuel tank you can see a small rectangle above the Farmall decal. The regulars did NOT have that since that small rectangle was the number designation for the F series.
This was a great find and a really interesting video.
Later they put a sign on it stating it was a 1928 Regular. Though that doesn't make sence for the duckbill steering. I had to do some reading up on it after seeing it, it is a narrow tread, same as the F20 that replaced it. Seems they were popular in some areas depending on row spacing and irrigation practices. A very cool tractor!
The overdrive could be for the PTO?
@@stevea9604hey Steve I was wondering the same thing
It was a classic, 25 years old when I was born.
Narrow tread regular... with lots of F-20 options. These two models shared alot of parts because of their similarities. Check out "Deering Dave " Regular and F20 ccomparison. Thanks for your video... never been to MN!
We asked for more and you deliver! What a lovely interesting example, hopefully some of the more 'nerdy' viewers will fill you in on the anomalies in this one. Thanks for sharing, Toby.
Thank you very much for finding the most intriguing things to share with us! ✌️
Neat tractor... this is what enjoy about your chanel, not only your knowledge, but the knowledge of your watchers.
I enjoyed the walk around. Definitely a unique machine, but very cool. Thank you, Toby! 🚜 👍
28 regular would have been original with the open face gears on the steering. These were a bit brittle & were prone to cracking under hard use.
The duck bill front bolster is a replacement but wide fronts are a pretty rare item today, and pricey when you find one.
The narrow tread width is 11 inches narrower than a standard, and the wheel spacing on the wide front only matches a narrow tread rear axle.
The rear wheels were called Texas style wheels.
Many pre- production prototype Farmall regulars were field tested in Texas and the wheels were an early development due to the thick gumbo clay soils here in cotton country. Lister plows were also tested extensively.
Thanks for the walk around !!!
Great info, thanks! 👍
I always enjoy the walk arounds on the old iron.
Another great overview from professor Squatch 👍🏻😁
It's just a narrow tread regular with an F20 duckbill front pedestal. Serial number was in front of the radiator on the left side.
Dad had a regular. The cable brake steer wasn’t on it, so there was a set of vise grips that lived on the right side brake actuator rod. I never drove it, but my brother did. Rule of thumb was to keep the thumbs out of the spokes, especially when turning across the furrows. Pulled a two bottom trip plow.
It may be a version of a f20 I have seen them with narrow rear end before. The heisler unit may be actually a underdrive unit to slow it down for pto work they were quite fast in first gear even
I was thinking the same thing that it could be a under drive makes better sense for shur.
Was gonna say, yeah. Maybe a post purchase, optioned F20, given the fact that it still has the pulley wheels on.
@aserta my dad grew up on F20.farmall and he said on the farm they had 3 of them and no 2 were the same different tire size and one had over drive box . Then every farm auction we went to he points out all the different designs of them
Irregular Regular? Could not help myself. That is really cool knowing the ins and outs of that line.
Nice video, Squatch, featuring a very unusual machine 👍
Very unique tractor Toby. Thanks so much for showing it to us. I love looking at old tractors and wish the could talk.
Looking at that and the first thought that came to my head for the rears. Was: " That has to be a rice tractor. Rears that are in line with the front. Self cleaners that look remarkably like similar wheels found on tractors in like the Philippines and other places. Covered steering gear box, just screams Rice field tractor."
Whether true or not is entirely speculation on my part. All together it's a unique unit that surely would tell a story that begins with: "Back when I was new..." If it could talk that is.
I think the front bolster has been replaced with one from an f-20. Lot of other parts seem added later. Like fenders and the rear steel wheels. Patina doesnt seem to match. Was repainted red at some point. There were no red regulars. Only the dark grey and red wheels.
Thanks again for the walk around Toby! What a meet Regular there. Would be cool to see in person that’s for sure
Looks like a narrow tread regular that had the front bolster replaced with that of an early F20. Not terribly uncommon for parts to have been switched around in the last 80+ years. Was definitely an old repaint like the vast majority of gray IHC’s ended up getting sprayed red when they came back to the dealer on trade. The dealers also ran a red repaint special to give a makeover to the older models.
Thanks for the video Toby! That is a super neat little tractor. I bet it would be scary to drive in top gear. Cheers
1:08 i've never seen that kind of a wheel before (as in with such a wire wheel construction). Neat stuff.
The serial number is visible at 1:25. It's in the 65000 range, so a 1929. The wide front was not available in 1929, but apparently became available as a retrofit part in 1934, the same time it was available on the F-20. So I guess there's no way to tell if it's a retrofit from back in the day, or just taken from an F-20 more recently.
A narrow tread regular is much rarer than a narrow tread F20, but most of both would have still been narrow front. The wide front for narrow tread is a holy grail part even without the tractor.
I just got the feeling one of the owners saw some parts in a catalog and ordered them up to trick out his ride. The fenders appear far newer than the rest, the steering being so unique and enclosed attached to the 'Y' front .... I don't even think those were offered as options. Back then it was "buy my perfect machine! or go find some other". So.... was J.C. Whitney in play back then? I know Sears and Montgomery Wards sold a lot of tractors and farm equipment, as well as the old Hardware Stores.
Those break cables were primarily used for, plowed ground , cause narrow front will not turn in plowed ground the front end would dig in and keep going straight,they used them cables to pull the break in plowed ground because of the hand breaks, just to say that when you went to make a turn both hands had to say on the steering wheel, so they made that cable system to pull the break for you,
Like others have said in the comments, it's (likely) a narrow F20, my theory being that the owner had it respecced back at the dealer, given that it still has the original pulley wheels and bits. Regardless, very cool unit, thank you for the walkaround.
Not sure if duck bill front ends were ever put on late regulars from factory. If not, this wide front came from an F-20. Or from later replacement parts for the F-20 series.
The fenders appear to be right for a regular. Not many were sold with the fender option, or left on if they were. So when fenders are seen, they just look odd because few have them.
I have seen similar rear wheels. Only being different by the lug. The ones I have seen have had the cross angle bars bolted on instead of the lug option.
The mag may also be an F-4 from an F-20. Hard to tell for sure being covered over by tin for rain protection. But the rear of the mag appears to be F-4.
The steering cables are missing, and likely because they really wouldn't be of much use with a wide front. Probably wouldn't be able to turn sharp enough to get much turning action out of the brakes.
Cool tractor. Thanks for posting. Never the less, there is some rare features here.
That was a really cool walk around.
Would very much enjoy one of your illustrated lessons on the whys and hows of spark advance. Maybe a stand alone episode?
It’s just a manually controlled spark timing that does the same job as the centrifugal advance flyweights that I went through in the newer Farmall H on the channel here. In a nutshell, the faster the engine runs, the sooner the spark needs to fire in relation to piston position. When the engine slows back down, the spark needs to happen a little bit later - on these early tractors it was the operator’s job to manually adjust the spark timing to keep the engine running smoothly 👍
@@squatch253 got it! thanks
Nice one mate thanks
Toby try to imagine the wheels polished by usage like the sweeps and disc on a plow. You got to know that they were shinning. High tech in those days. Many a mule lost their jobs when this hit the market.
The rear wheels are interesting. You mentioned bolt on lugs to the basic wheel skeleton type frame. That means other options could have existed for "bolt on" features. The problem is that I cannot immediately think of what other bolt on features may have existed for a skeleton type wheel. Perhaps other viewers may have some ideas.
Ya just never know what you'll see at the end of the video. Squatch having fun with his video editing software.
So Cool ! Thanks!
I WOULD GUESS THE FENDERS ARE FACTORY
BUILT WITH THESE VERY GNARLY STEEL WHEELS SO CLOSE ON THE SIDES!!
I agree, very interesting. maybe I will see it this weekend in the rice county show even though their feature I believe is MM.
I might even get to go to the white pine show.
LOL, NO MGM Animal roaring with the Golden LOGO.? I enjoy these field trip vids...6:38
The overdrive might be to compensate for the smaller diameter drive wheels.
Lots of things don't add up here. Its a Regular so it would have been Farmall Gray. I'd say someone either bought the upgrades thru a dealer or it got a salvage yard upgrade. Lots of early tractors got dealer upgrades and repaints. Either way its still cool.
I was thinking the same thing - either it had a lot of later F-20 “upgrades” or somebody built a Frankenstein tractor - and did a very good job because it’s a really sharp looking unit 👍
@@squatch253 I agree authentic isn't always original, tractors like this have a story to tell
The overdrive would boost PTO speed, right?
Probably used it for stationary power
Yes that’s the problem with those, will boost the PTO and belt speed. A lot of these Heislers were a 1:2 ratio which doubled the speed input to the trans. So more for saving time running out and back to the field rather then pto work.
That is one odd but interesting tractor. I don't think someone just out of interest hacked to tractors together this seems like a factory deal with a few additional options. The sleketon wheels are interesting usually you see full iron wheels on IH that where sold in Europe from that era.
A prototype? Thanks for sharing!
Is that overdrive gearbox an underdrive gearbox to take advantage of the extra traction of those spud wheels?
The tag on it said it was an overdrive 👍
AMAZING!
Good Video
Bet you also didn’t notice it didn’t have an oil filter housing!
I know whose tractor that is he has a very unique collection of early ih farmalls im sure he'd tell you everything about it
Very interesting
I missed that. Wonder if that was a early Fairway. I have heard of a narrow model. Tussen Takk.
I love the Indiana Jones outro. You just got to keep that one. Both you and Indie try to seek and save treasures and artifacts from the past. It's just you....
The IH 2+2 tractor would make a good video also.
Almost looks like 10-20 fenders and front wheels
Could it be a very early orchard tractor?
Almost set up like a rice field tractor, all the wheel speed needs more stability, and I'd bet you could run down every 4th row with that spacing.
9 AM tuesday looks like you are getting some rain what about the white letters on frame of irregular Farmall also I would guess the extra unit in drive train is a reduction gear unit for like a cripper gear
Yep just finished recording a quick episode showing the drains in action, stay tuned! 👍 It made me a bit late getting to the morning’s computer work though, so last night’s upload is due to hit the feed shortly 😎
I've got a narrow gauge f20
Interesting
I wonder if this was adapted for orchard work...
That's a rare tractor!
Why, that overdrive is for when you are going to town with your girl, and you need to pass by her old flame's house.
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That is what I refer to as a "pimped out" tractor.
The next day there was an incredible F-14 that showed up right next to this one that had every factory attachment I’ve ever seen plus a few that I never even knew existed, but by then it was so loud and crowded that I couldn’t get a good walkaround of it. That one was supercool too 👍
@@squatch253hey mate did you get any pictures
Is it an Orchard Tractor?
Would not the "overdrive" turn it into a 6? 8? speed?
Could it be an early "orchard"??
Question? Is it a heisler overdrive or is it an underdrive. Most people do no lt know they also did very few underdrive units.
I checked out the tag on the Heisler and it said “Overdrive” 👍
Famall regular, wide front.
Cool tractor but don’t have a clue what it is…. 😂
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Prototype ?
What's the difference between an S253 Production and a Red Shed Production?
😆 🤔 did you see a red shed in this vid? Only tractors eh 👍
But I could be wrong, may be more nefarious skulduggery afoot than my spidey senses indicating 🤷♂️😝✌️
The Red Shed Productions happen up on the field where the Red Shed is 👍
@@squatch253 Funny thing is that a 253 where I am from is a Holden (Chevy) V8. I thought you were a Ford man ???
The 253 comes from my M-M prototype crawler serial #X253 👍
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Mid thirties I guess