crucial point here is that the mix is already very clean, crisp and balanced before going into the analog chain (massive props to you dude), it's not a way to fix issues if the mix is unbalanced/muddy/flat etc.
Pretty funny how that stuff happens! Nice work, the tracks are really cool. One of my artists must have got the track through you guys :) I didn’t use the vocals in the demo as it’s not released yet.
Sounds great. A little bit goes a long way, compounding from one unit to another in the chain really adds up. It's so obviously different when bypassed. Every time you hit the bypass on the whole chain, the whole life of the song got sucked out and was immediately apparent. It's something that is hard to tell for the average listener when it's there, but obvious when it's not. Found this because looking at adding in the 542 stereo pair for my mix bus. Great video, thanks!
Really enjoyed the vid. I’m currently looking to add more 500 series pieces to my Mixbus processing chain and came across your channel. Love your chain and the character and tone it gave the sound examples.
Solid mix - great clarity and definition in the mids/upper mids - without being harsh or fatiguing. It sounded good going into the chain - even better with the outboard. Nice job!
I use AD800 tape on my mix bus but I've been saying lately the style of what I'm mixing I will use when needed but stick to using everything else I mix with. Thanks for this video it is very helpful.
I definitely want to invest in some 500 series gear. It seems like such a great way to get a compact and relatively affordable analog chain. Obviously you have to get a chassis, but even those don't seem too pricey. I was listening to a Nashville producer, and he was talking about how he records in the box but sends the whole mix out through a pair of linked preamps. I'd love to do something like that just to get some coloration on my mixes. I'm not going to do any of that until I perfect the acoustic treatment in my room, though.
500 series is great, I had a whole bunch more but ended up selling off a bit of gear over the last 2 years, culled it back to what I use often. I’ve heard a few people talk about running mixes through preamps for some Colour. It’s not a bad idea at all, would give it some console vibes.
You're missing out not using Mid/Side mode on that insert! It can be magic. I actually put my 542's and EQ in there. Amazing the character you can impart (if you want). For the most part, I have a very similar setup as you. The Elisia filter 500 sometimes goes at the very end of my chain or before (I'm always fiddling). In addition, I run a SPL BiG for my widening/cool Bass circuit. I also run my entire mix first through a tube pre-amp. Great demo. Thanks for sharing!
Cool breakdown! I have something similar going on. The 542's going into the fusion, with maag eq4's on the inserts so i can try both stereo or m/s, often put them pre eq to sort of massage some of the highs with the hf com when boosting that air band. From the fusion i run into wes audio dione or the rhea. Depending on the material i might pop in the drawmer 1974 before or after the comp for the filters ( i find the ones on the fusion a bit too drastic) or some high mid boost to open things up
Thanks for a great detailed video. Do you do this process to finalise a mix before getting your track mastered? Or do you do this process to finalise your mix as an in-house style master?
That sounds huge. Do you mix into those pieces and settings or is it something you add after you have your mix "done"? I thought the SSL Fusion was to be used for mastering :)
Sometimes I mix into them, other times I will have a plugin chain and swap to my outboard chain later in the mix if I feel it’s missing that secret sauce haha The fusion can be used however you like! For me it lives on the mix bus!
Does your audio level at unity when using the i/o plugin? I always need to increase the input when using the i/o plugin in order to get the level at unity gain
Greetings, Amazing video, but I have a few questions. Is there a reason you eq and comp prior to the ssl fusion? Most people would use the eq (in midside) using the ssl fusion and comp after the ssl. Do you find that you get a better sound with your workflow? Did you wire the units to a patchbay or do you have them wired in series directly into each other as a fix chain?
Thanks! Each unit is sent to my patch bay, but I have them set to half normal and cascading into one another so I don’t actually have to patch them in to each other every time I want to use my mix bus, but I can also then use each unit individually if desired. I think of the ssl fusion as a finisher/mastering style processor, which would come after my standard mix bus EQ/comp. This arrangement has worked really well for me and I have never felt the need to place the ssl earlier in my chain! I’m sure it would sound fine earlier though! Thanks for watching mate!
@@spinlightstudios thanks. I just purchased the SSL Ultraviolet EQ + SSL G Comp 500 to fit into my API lunchbox . I don't have enough inputs into my Apollo x6 so am wondering which order to piggy back with patch cables.
They aren’t fed into each other at the box, each piece has its inputs and outputs being sent to a patch bay - where I set the order of the signal chain
These ‘rules’ may work for you, but I suspect you are making great mixes to be so confident about the buss processing. For any mix, by anyone, done poorly, the buss process will do absolutely nothing to fix it. Certainly some of your viewers will fall in that category and end up thinking the right piece of gear is all that is stopping them making a living.
Hey man! I mean, you could say the same about anything - plugins too! I’m not trying to sell anyone on hardware here, just sharing what I use on my mix bus - I didn’t own any hardware for years, definitely recommend getting confident with plugins and mixing and then dive into the hardware world when you’re ready. Crap in - crap out - doesn’t matter about the gear.
@@spinlightstudios I didn’t for a minute think you’re selling anything, hardware or software. But you’re promoting an idea that the inexperienced may think is their solution. I’m just making conversation. I’m not a RUclips crank. You’re clearly an experienced and gifted mixer. I wish we could show others how they can accomplish that.
@@artysanmobile oh for sure. I wasn’t annoyed at your comment, I agree that it’s not about using crazy gear to get a good sound as it’s more about your skills and knowledge :)
@@spinlightstudios There is a narrative here that “fill in blank” reliably fixes “fill in problem” in music making. I’m not dumb to how the marketplace functions but the comments reveal a large watching audience who clearly isn’t understanding.
Don’t forget to hit that Like button guys! Always, drop a comment and let us know what you’re using on your mix bus!
crucial point here is that the mix is already very clean, crisp and balanced before going into the analog chain (massive props to you dude), it's not a way to fix issues if the mix is unbalanced/muddy/flat etc.
Thanks Casey! For sure! The mix bus is not a “fix bus” hehe
Awesome tips! Thank you! I'm VERY SLOWLY starting to add hardware to my setup, nothing fancy, but this is encouraging.
Thanks mate! Yes it can be a slow journey! But worth it!
The dream setup ... Love your stuff bro! This channel is going to BLOW UP !!!
Hybrid set up all the way! Best of both worlds :) thanks man!
Was just browsing RUclips looking at converters and found your vids and heard your using our beat for the demo. Awesome man glad to contribute!!
Pretty funny how that stuff happens! Nice work, the tracks are really cool. One of my artists must have got the track through you guys :) I didn’t use the vocals in the demo as it’s not released yet.
Sounds great. A little bit goes a long way, compounding from one unit to another in the chain really adds up. It's so obviously different when bypassed. Every time you hit the bypass on the whole chain, the whole life of the song got sucked out and was immediately apparent. It's something that is hard to tell for the average listener when it's there, but obvious when it's not.
Found this because looking at adding in the 542 stereo pair for my mix bus. Great video, thanks!
Thanks mate! Exactly, little bits of Colour added by each unit makes a huge difference when stacked up! Couldn’t live without my mix bus chain 🥰
Thank you for this.
👍🏻
Really enjoyed the vid. I’m currently looking to add more 500 series pieces to my Mixbus processing chain and came across your channel. Love your chain and the character and tone it gave the sound examples.
Cheers legend!
immediate like, my guy. Keep ‘em coming!
Thanks Matt!
Solid mix - great clarity and definition in the mids/upper mids - without being harsh or fatiguing. It sounded good going into the chain - even better with the outboard. Nice job!
Thanks Scott! Outboard was the icing on the cake!
I use AD800 tape on my mix bus but I've been saying lately the style of what I'm mixing I will use when needed but stick to using everything else I mix with. Thanks for this video it is very helpful.
Absolutely! Glad you found it helpful man!
I definitely want to invest in some 500 series gear. It seems like such a great way to get a compact and relatively affordable analog chain. Obviously you have to get a chassis, but even those don't seem too pricey.
I was listening to a Nashville producer, and he was talking about how he records in the box but sends the whole mix out through a pair of linked preamps. I'd love to do something like that just to get some coloration on my mixes.
I'm not going to do any of that until I perfect the acoustic treatment in my room, though.
500 series is great, I had a whole bunch more but ended up selling off a bit of gear over the last 2 years, culled it back to what I use often. I’ve heard a few people talk about running mixes through preamps for some Colour. It’s not a bad idea at all, would give it some console vibes.
You're missing out not using Mid/Side mode on that insert! It can be magic. I actually put my 542's and EQ in there. Amazing the character you can impart (if you want). For the most part, I have a very similar setup as you. The Elisia filter 500 sometimes goes at the very end of my chain or before (I'm always fiddling). In addition, I run a SPL BiG for my widening/cool Bass circuit. I also run my entire mix first through a tube pre-amp. Great demo. Thanks for sharing!
Sounds like an awesome mix
Bus chain you have going on! I’ll have to get some of that midside magic going 🪄
Superb bro
I always like your videos it’s really useful 👍 keep going keep rocking ittttttt
Thanks mate! Appreciate you checking them out!
Cool breakdown!
I have something similar going on. The 542's going into the fusion, with maag eq4's on the inserts so i can try both stereo or m/s, often put them pre eq to sort of massage some of the highs with the hf com when boosting that air band. From the fusion i run into wes audio dione or the rhea. Depending on the material i might pop in the drawmer 1974 before or after the comp for the filters ( i find the ones on the fusion a bit too drastic) or some high mid boost to open things up
Sounds great!
beautiful content, thank you very much!
No problem! Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video man! Could you do a tutorial for how you've set up your Neve R6 and 500 modules as your mixbus with logic?
Thanks mate! Yeah I’ll definitely consider doing something like that! Thanks for the idea :)
Thanks for a great detailed video.
Do you do this process to finalise a mix before getting your track mastered?
Or do you do this process to finalise your mix as an in-house style master?
For me, this is still part of the mixing process, just getting your mix to sounds as finished as possible.
Super subtle
I disagree immensely!
Question: If you're producing your own tracks, but not mixing them (because you're not a mixer), is it best to NOT have a mix bus? Thx bro
If you’re not planning on mixing the tracks, I wouldn’t worry about mix bus processing. Let the mix engineer add those herbs and spices
That sounds huge. Do you mix into those pieces and settings or is it something you add after you have your mix "done"? I thought the SSL Fusion was to be used for mastering :)
Sometimes I mix into them, other times I will have a plugin chain and swap to my outboard chain later in the mix if I feel it’s missing that secret sauce haha
The fusion can be used however you like! For me it lives on the mix bus!
@@spinlightstudiosThanks for replying. Cheers!
Does your audio level at unity when using the i/o plugin? I always need to increase the input when using the i/o plugin in order to get the level at unity gain
I always have to tweak the input and output to get a matched level when bypassing the I/O plugin
Greetings,
Amazing video, but I have a few questions. Is there a reason you eq and comp prior to the ssl fusion? Most people would use the eq (in midside) using the ssl fusion and comp after the ssl. Do you find that you get a better sound with your workflow?
Did you wire the units to a patchbay or do you have them wired in series directly into each other as a fix chain?
Thanks! Each unit is sent to my patch bay, but I have them set to half normal and cascading into one another so I don’t actually have to patch them in to each other every time I want to use my mix bus, but I can also then use each unit individually if desired. I think of the ssl fusion as a finisher/mastering style processor, which would come after my standard mix bus EQ/comp. This arrangement has worked really well for me and I have never felt the need to place the ssl earlier in my chain! I’m sure it would sound fine earlier though! Thanks for watching mate!
Have you tried using the Neve in mid side? Blue silk on the mid and red silk on the sides?
Oo I haven’t, Im sure that would sound pretty nice!
So on the mix bus do you put the Elysia EQ BEFORE or AFTER the Stam 4K Comp? .. thanks !
Before! :) but you can definitely do it after, whatever sounds better
@@spinlightstudios thanks. I just purchased the SSL Ultraviolet EQ + SSL G Comp 500 to fit into my API lunchbox . I don't have enough inputs into my Apollo x6 so am wondering which order to piggy back with patch cables.
Hi dude, just a quick tech questions. Are your speakers Yamaha HS5's? How do you like them? :)
Hey mate! Mine are the HS8’s. I think they are pretty decent!
@@spinlightstudios awesome. I'm getting good prices on used HS7's. I might get one. Thanks a lot!
How is your 500 series chain going from right to left instead of left to right?
They aren’t fed into each other at the box, each piece has its inputs and outputs being sent to a patch bay - where I set the order of the signal chain
@@spinlightstudios Ahhhh... Thank you.
Can you please do a video with plugins
I think that can be arranged!
@@spinlightstudios yeah, specially recreating the 542's, maybe utilizing Plugin Doctor?
Seems like mastering moreover.
Not really, you can do as much or as little mix bus processing as your heart desires, whatever gets the result you want to hear.
I think I bought your Drawmer 1978
Yeah dude! How’s it going?!
@@spinlightstudios It's great, I really like it. Usually sits on the drum buss but I use it for other stuff too like stereo vocals and percussion etc
@@clintonmaher6930 that’s great :) I used it predominantly on drums!
These ‘rules’ may work for you, but I suspect you are making great mixes to be so confident about the buss processing. For any mix, by anyone, done poorly, the buss process will do absolutely nothing to fix it. Certainly some of your viewers will fall in that category and end up thinking the right piece of gear is all that is stopping them making a living.
Hey man! I mean, you could say the same about anything - plugins too! I’m not trying to sell anyone on hardware here, just sharing what I use on my mix bus - I didn’t own any hardware for years, definitely recommend getting confident with plugins and mixing and then dive into the hardware world when you’re ready. Crap in - crap out - doesn’t matter about the gear.
@@spinlightstudios I didn’t for a minute think you’re selling anything, hardware or software. But you’re promoting an idea that the inexperienced may think is their solution. I’m just making conversation. I’m not a RUclips crank. You’re clearly an experienced and gifted mixer. I wish we could show others how they can accomplish that.
@@artysanmobile oh for sure. I wasn’t annoyed at your comment, I agree that it’s not about using crazy gear to get a good sound as it’s more about your skills and knowledge :)
@@spinlightstudios There is a narrative here that “fill in blank” reliably fixes “fill in problem” in music making. I’m not dumb to how the marketplace functions but the comments reveal a large watching audience who clearly isn’t understanding.