My personal favorite character on the show. Isaiah John is one of the better actors. Leon visiting Franklin in jail is still my favorite scene. His love for Wanda is one of the great storylines in the show. Great job!
Leon had the forethought to protect his family.He learned from everybody else's personal losses plus Wanda getting strung out taught him anybody too close to the product could get addicted.He was already in the streets before the business so he also knew the worst thing you can do when you're out there is to keep a real connection to your family.It's one of the many sacrifices you have to make & sadly,not doing that is what Franklin's real downfall is going to be.Leon hated Manboy from jump because he's a good people reader & because Manboy sent workers to his neighborhood that could've killed him/his friends.He is loyal & Franklin knows it deep down.He should've listened when he was telling him he's the one that really kept everything going while he was gone.He wanted respect that the family was not giving him,he didn't really care about not being in charge.Franklin came back giving Louie all the glory instead making her & Leon equals.
Me Personally, I Think He A Lot Smarter Than What People Give Him Credit For Especially Frankin, He Just More Emotional Than Logical, When Leon Got Shot, He Told Saint Lenny Was By Himself & Franklin Ass Still Thought RayRay Was With Him 🤦🏾♂️ Which Is An Underlying Theme In The Series He Read ManBoy’s True Motives The Minute ManBoy Came Around In Season 3 And In The Brick By Brick Scene He Told Saint ManBoy Wanted To Take Over As We See Louie Didn’t See ManBoy For Who He Truly Was Until Season 4 When She Had To Start Dealing With Him More Wise Move To Advise Saint To Stay Out Of The War Between ManBoy & Skully As Well, Also At The Hospital You Could Tell His Spidey Senses Was Tingling When Tonasse Was Around & His Advice At The End Of Season 4 About Louie & Jerome Was On The Money Too
7:20 that part kills me everytime. I understand Jerome's reasoning to not want to hear Khadija but she needed that closure. I felt her speech, she minded her business and she lost her baby. She was my favorite side character because I feel any parent can relate to her pain and reaction to losing her daughter.
Minding your business is not even dealing with a drug dealer who's been doing dope as long as you've been alive.But you definitely do not get pregnant by that drug dealing junkie,live in the trap house with the baby & ride around in cars with your drug dealing dopefiend baby daddy gang bangin drug dealing homeboys.And if you do choose to do that dumb shit,you absolutely do not take your innocent baby outside while there's a whole as war going on in the streets that you know your drug dealing dopefiend baby daddy is directly involved in🤷🏿♀️
Do you ever stop to think the turf war was why she was riding in a fully armed vehicle yea she manboys sister but did every crip know that our did some just know her as skully’s girl
Franklin is a lost cause. I love the show and like the fact that the character (Franklin) is a smart Black man who takes charge of his own destiny but if his character is not killed in the end is somehow "redeemed" then this show is a complete moral failure. This show is [unfortunately and maybe even unintentionally] about Black people destroying themselves -- even more than about the government destroying the Black community -- and I refuse to make the protagonist (Franklin) in anyway a hero. The character of Franklin is literally a Black man who decided to destroy his own community for money. And by the way, I am a Black man. Great show, I do enjoy it, but you're getting the wrong message if you don't think Franklin is evil and, yes, a lost cause.
@@williamthomas1811 The CIA destroyed the black community not Franklin your giving him way to much credit if it wasn’t gonna be him there would be another to take his windfall I mean snowfall
@@simplymarvelous4983 that is simply ignorant. Yes, the CIA provided literally tons of cocaine but Franklin made it into cheaper and more addictive crack, and then initially handed it out for free to get as many people as possible addicted. The character literally said (and did) that on screen. He is literally peddling addiction and death to his own community. Plus, he literally kills or orders the death of several other (mostly Black) people. How are you justifying and trying to makes excuses for that? Indeed, like I said, even though I think the character of Franklin is despicable and evil, I do give credit that the character is the master of his own destiny. But being the master of one's own destiny also means you are responsible for the evil you cause. And Franklin, more than anyone else on the show, is responsible for the destruction of his own community in LA.
New subscriber your channel is an amazing breath of fresh air God bless you for taking the initiative to put this out for us wishing major success and love for you sister ✊🏽
Why they didn't go after his family? Because this is T.V. I got memories from this time when ppl were after us for things other family members did. Also his prints is all over the gun he dropped at the scene.
Yeah, it can be hard to determine where our suspense of belief is supposed to stop. If you analyze any fictional world long enough you'll find loopholes/inconsistencies like that.
@@JaneforShort If you into firearms watching movies you will be catching inconsistencies ALL THE TIME!!! Ex. Narcos it was the 80s and 90s and they were using the Galil ace. Problem is the galil ace wasn't invented until 2014! The time correct gun for the Colombian army would be the galil arm or indumil G3.
That's why I try to go for shows that really take their time and try to make things as accurate as possible. If the show isn't gonna be accurate, it shouldn't be realistic. At least that's my opinion lol
Leon didn’t leave his family to drown he bought them a house and left them money what it was representing is that his mom got a taste of money and wanted more so took the money out of the yard that’s why he said there was 20,000 out there In 1983 that’s like 100,000 now she just wanted money not saying she was wrong she just thought that it would be ok
Ummm, no. Leon's mother took the money to pay for medical bills. She says it in the scene. This is one of the only scenes that she appears in. She isn't living lavish, or cashing in on materialistic things. She lives in that same house, works and takes care of his siblings. She even gives him the little bit of money that she has to help him flee. The scenes in that episode are clearly framed to show that Leon is on his own. Has nothing to do with his mother being money hungry.
@@JaneforShort I know she wasn’t rich but if you look at his reaction when she says it how he kinda gives her that look there was 20,000 out there in sure you remember 1983 and how much money 20,000 was in 1983 it was a lot of money Dialysis is something that has to be done they wouldn’t expect the money up front they would make payment arrangements for a child especially if someone without a way to show the money would be looked at funny for paying it up front i don’t want to argue I actually thought your videos are one of the only ones that caught some of the things John was trying ti represent in the show maybe I’m wrong and I know that was one of her only scenes I’ve watched entire series 4 times looking for one thing that I can’t find again i truly think it might be the saddest television and one of the most important even though it’s fiction in some ways it’s realer then a documentary
I still disagree with your characterization of the scene. A payment plan, sure. But how much do you think dialysis payments cost? I'm aware of inflation and how $20K would be like $60K today or something, but medical bills are expensive. It's not far fetched to think that she could have spent a lot of that on dialysis (which is meant to keep a person functional while awaiting a kidney transplant). It also isn't common to have dialysis and no other health ailments. Also it being something that "has to be done" doesn't mean much. There are people dying because they can't afford the insulin they need to live. Big pharma is and always has been money hungry. She also had to get Leon's sister treated for a dog bite and to get the kids things they needed for school. The scene wasn't about Leon's mother or her desire for money. The scene was about how Leon had gotten so caught up in his obligations to Franklin and the projects that he'd lost his way. He'd just killed a little girl while participating in a turf war he knew they couldn't win. After that, he took a critical look at all of his actions up until that point (including leaving his family to drown, also remember that we never see them again) and that's why we see such a huge change in his development. We don't have to argue at all. I just reply to comments for the algorithm ❤️
Leon Is my man and i Really want to see then Leon Doing Alsooo the samee That Aunt Louie and Uncle jamming Jerome then Don't Working with Franklin no more and then hold Franklin Family Going Turn on Franklin
I've gotten a similar comment, but when I listen back on different devices, I hear myself fine. Regardless, I'm working on it. Thanks for your comment :)
Leon got his mom a house what are you talking about let his family drown he was smart to stay away from his family so his enemies can’t use them to get to him
Having a house is great, but his family was still struggling financially. One of his close relatives needed dialysis and Leon was not there to help. That's what I mean.
But he expected them not to spend it, that's my whole point lol. He expected for his little sister to be bitten by a dog and his relative to deal with kidney failure while they left his money buried in the yard. If your daughter needed urgent medical care you couldn't afford and there was $20K buried in your yard, would you leave it there and let her get a nasty infection in the name of loyalty?
My ex wife says he reminds her of me....I think it's the walking contradiction and the range of thoughts and emotions....She was like...",Yea that too..."😂😂😁😁😂😁😂
I no longer have my notes from this video, so I'm not sure. I quickly Googled it today and I think the general consensus is that he's a former Crip because of his association with Karvel and his people (also because he mostly wears blue and because of his living in the projects where a certain group of crips lived), so I stand by classifying him that way in that part of the video. I believe it was said in the series, but I'm not 100% sure, so my bad about that. I don't wanna put out info that's straight up incorrect.
@@JaneforShort , no worries and I am not trying to press you for that. I honestly was just curious about it because that to me is a nuance on the show I'd be interested in. You do a great job on these thanks for providing them.
That's an interesting take. To me, it seemed like they were trying to tell us 1) Leon is like a second son to Cissy and 2) Leon had no one else to turn to. He was isolated after taking a life and having everything crumble around him as a consequence of his own actions. He couldn't break down and cry in front of Franklin, let alone let Franklin know how much things were affecting him. Just me though 🤷🏾♀️
Franklin went from community oriented to individualist and capitalist, while Leon had a vise versa evolution by the end of the latest season.
Yesss. I talked about this in my most recent video. Franklin is quickly becoming a nihilist, while Leon responding to trauma with solidarity.
My personal favorite character on the show. Isaiah John is one of the better actors. Leon visiting Franklin in jail is still my favorite scene. His love for Wanda is one of the great storylines in the show. Great job!
You can tell Karvel was his first but he was ready like alotta young brothers sadly
Leon had the forethought to protect his family.He learned from everybody else's personal losses plus Wanda getting strung out taught him anybody too close to the product could get addicted.He was already in the streets before the business so he also knew the worst thing you can do when you're out there is to keep a real connection to your family.It's one of the many sacrifices you have to make & sadly,not doing that is what Franklin's real downfall is going to be.Leon hated Manboy from jump because he's a good people reader & because Manboy sent workers to his neighborhood that could've killed him/his friends.He is loyal & Franklin knows it deep down.He should've listened when he was telling him he's the one that really kept everything going while he was gone.He wanted respect that the family was not giving him,he didn't really care about not being in charge.Franklin came back giving Louie all the glory instead making her & Leon equals.
Leon is the main reason I love Snowfall. Plus Isaiah is beautiful.
This comment right here❤. Isaiah is charismatic and beautiful q
Leon does definitely remind me of my best friend.... reminder where I came from Low key wise AF .... And Loyal
Me Personally, I Think He A Lot Smarter Than What People Give Him Credit For Especially Frankin,
He Just More Emotional Than Logical,
When Leon Got Shot, He Told Saint Lenny Was By Himself & Franklin Ass Still Thought RayRay Was With Him 🤦🏾♂️ Which Is An Underlying Theme In The Series
He Read ManBoy’s True Motives The Minute ManBoy Came Around In Season 3 And In The Brick By Brick Scene He Told Saint ManBoy Wanted To Take Over As We See Louie Didn’t See ManBoy For Who He Truly Was Until Season 4 When She Had To Start Dealing With Him More
Wise Move To Advise Saint To Stay Out Of The War Between ManBoy & Skully As Well,
Also At The Hospital You Could Tell His Spidey Senses Was Tingling When Tonasse Was Around & His Advice At The End Of Season 4 About Louie & Jerome Was On The Money Too
great video, nobody analyzes snowfall so this is real tight
On the first watch, I thought Franklin sent Cissy to kill Leon right before she began to braid Leon’s hair.
That would’ve been wild!! Lol
Cissy love Leon like a son.
Leon definitely one of my favorite characters
Leon is not scared of a lot but it also makes him reckless. He is calming down but not much still a firecracker in season 5
I didn't officially become Team Leon until the jail scene with Franklin and him.
7:20 that part kills me everytime. I understand Jerome's reasoning to not want to hear Khadija but she needed that closure. I felt her speech, she minded her business and she lost her baby. She was my favorite side character because I feel any parent can relate to her pain and reaction to losing her daughter.
They shot first leon had no choice he should've killed khadija too as harsh as that sounds
Minding your business is not even dealing with a drug dealer who's been doing dope as long as you've been alive.But you definitely do not get pregnant by that drug dealing junkie,live in the trap house with the baby & ride around in cars with your drug dealing dopefiend baby daddy gang bangin drug dealing homeboys.And if you do choose to do that dumb shit,you absolutely do not take your innocent baby outside while there's a whole as war going on in the streets that you know your drug dealing dopefiend baby daddy is directly involved in🤷🏿♀️
Shit it’s her fault . She put that baby in harms way riding with those bloods like LA wasn’t piping hot
She owns the loss of her baby. She drove around with in a fully armed vehicle in the mist of a turf war
Do you ever stop to think the turf war was why she was riding in a fully armed vehicle yea she manboys sister but did every crip know that our did some just know her as skully’s girl
Absolutely love ya analysis! Not just on this video but overall, you go!!!! Def subscribed & lookin fwd to ya subsequent vids 🥳
Thank you! You should check out The Golden Knowledge if you haven't already. He has a couple of great videos about Franklin.
Saying franklin a lost cause, this the same person saying drew the good guy😂
Franklin is a lost cause. I love the show and like the fact that the character (Franklin) is a smart Black man who takes charge of his own destiny but if his character is not killed in the end is somehow "redeemed" then this show is a complete moral failure. This show is [unfortunately and maybe even unintentionally] about Black people destroying themselves -- even more than about the government destroying the Black community -- and I refuse to make the protagonist (Franklin) in anyway a hero. The character of Franklin is literally a Black man who decided to destroy his own community for money.
And by the way, I am a Black man. Great show, I do enjoy it, but you're getting the wrong message if you don't think Franklin is evil and, yes, a lost cause.
@@williamthomas1811 The CIA destroyed the black community not Franklin your giving him way to much credit if it wasn’t gonna be him there would be another to take his windfall I mean snowfall
@@simplymarvelous4983 that is simply ignorant. Yes, the CIA provided literally tons of cocaine but Franklin made it into cheaper and more addictive crack, and then initially handed it out for free to get as many people as possible addicted. The character literally said (and did) that on screen. He is literally peddling addiction and death to his own community. Plus, he literally kills or orders the death of several other (mostly Black) people. How are you justifying and trying to makes excuses for that?
Indeed, like I said, even though I think the character of Franklin is despicable and evil, I do give credit that the character is the master of his own destiny. But being the master of one's own destiny also means you are responsible for the evil you cause. And Franklin, more than anyone else on the show, is responsible for the destruction of his own community in LA.
@@williamthomas1811 CIA tore down the black community by design. This and welfare destroyed black families.
New subscriber your channel is an amazing breath of fresh air God bless you for taking the initiative to put this out for us wishing major success and love for you sister ✊🏽
My favorite character. Most relatable and the only character that didn’t change when the money came
Isaiah as Leon is gorgeous ❤. Love Leon's personality and style and loyalty
Kevin had to leave to work on Raising Kane wit 50 Cent
I lovvvvvve your break downs
“Ain’t that fucked up!” Hahaha you hate Franklin lol
Nah fr lol
Thanks I love the show.you should be hired to explain the charters
Why they didn't go after his family? Because this is T.V. I got memories from this time when ppl were after us for things other family members did. Also his prints is all over the gun he dropped at the scene.
Yeah, it can be hard to determine where our suspense of belief is supposed to stop. If you analyze any fictional world long enough you'll find loopholes/inconsistencies like that.
@@JaneforShort If you into firearms watching movies you will be catching inconsistencies ALL THE TIME!!! Ex. Narcos it was the 80s and 90s and they were using the Galil ace. Problem is the galil ace wasn't invented until 2014! The time correct gun for the Colombian army would be the galil arm or indumil G3.
That's why I try to go for shows that really take their time and try to make things as accurate as possible. If the show isn't gonna be accurate, it shouldn't be realistic. At least that's my opinion lol
Leon didn’t leave his family to drown he bought them a house and left them money what it was representing is that his mom got a taste of money and wanted more so took the money out of the yard that’s why he said there was 20,000 out there In 1983 that’s like 100,000 now she just wanted money not saying she was wrong she just thought that it would be ok
Ummm, no. Leon's mother took the money to pay for medical bills. She says it in the scene. This is one of the only scenes that she appears in. She isn't living lavish, or cashing in on materialistic things. She lives in that same house, works and takes care of his siblings. She even gives him the little bit of money that she has to help him flee. The scenes in that episode are clearly framed to show that Leon is on his own. Has nothing to do with his mother being money hungry.
@@JaneforShort I know she wasn’t rich but if you look at his reaction when she says it how he kinda gives her that look there was 20,000 out there in sure you remember 1983 and how much money 20,000 was in 1983 it was a lot of money Dialysis is something that has to be done they wouldn’t expect the money up front they would make payment arrangements for a child especially if someone without a way to show the money would be looked at funny for paying it up front i don’t want to argue I actually thought your videos are one of the only ones that caught some of the things John was trying ti represent in the show maybe I’m wrong and I know that was one of her only scenes I’ve watched entire series 4 times looking for one thing that I can’t find again i truly think it might be the saddest television and one of the most important even though it’s fiction in some ways it’s realer then a documentary
I still disagree with your characterization of the scene. A payment plan, sure. But how much do you think dialysis payments cost? I'm aware of inflation and how $20K would be like $60K today or something, but medical bills are expensive. It's not far fetched to think that she could have spent a lot of that on dialysis (which is meant to keep a person functional while awaiting a kidney transplant). It also isn't common to have dialysis and no other health ailments. Also it being something that "has to be done" doesn't mean much. There are people dying because they can't afford the insulin they need to live. Big pharma is and always has been money hungry. She also had to get Leon's sister treated for a dog bite and to get the kids things they needed for school. The scene wasn't about Leon's mother or her desire for money. The scene was about how Leon had gotten so caught up in his obligations to Franklin and the projects that he'd lost his way. He'd just killed a little girl while participating in a turf war he knew they couldn't win. After that, he took a critical look at all of his actions up until that point (including leaving his family to drown, also remember that we never see them again) and that's why we see such a huge change in his development.
We don't have to argue at all. I just reply to comments for the algorithm ❤️
I Loved This
Thanks for being here 🙂
Love your videos
She took his money…. Then kicked him out… ok
Kevin just made the wrong bed to lay in Damn family or business who would have chosen business over family
Leon is exactly my best friend
That's Shirley from 'What's Happening!'.
Nah. Shirley Hemphill died in the 90s.
whats the name of the beat you used for this video?
I like Leon too.......but, when it comes to the Thug Life... _There's no such thing as Honor amongst Thieves_ !
Leon not a lost cause like Franklin? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 That hurt right there girl.
I'm sorry :(
leon is kind of the hood version of tommy from goodfellas
He’s not that crazy. Leon has a conscious to a degree, Tommy was a complete psychopath with zero amount of empathy
Franklin is from London doing a Cali accent
love your vids, but please turn your mic up!
Thanks! Audio is better in the newer videos 🙂
Leon Is my man and i Really want to see then Leon Doing Alsooo the samee That Aunt Louie and Uncle jamming Jerome then Don't Working with Franklin no more and then hold Franklin Family Going Turn on Franklin
Re do this video, the volume of your voice is very low at times.
Not gnna lie I wanted Leon and manboy to win
I can barely hear you, maybe a external microphone would help with intonation and inflection in your voice.
I've gotten a similar comment, but when I listen back on different devices, I hear myself fine. Regardless, I'm working on it. Thanks for your comment :)
I thought it was just me! I couldn't hear on the "Franklin is an anti-hero" video, either, but the Manboy vid was better.
leon reminds me of frodo... actin stupid for no reason and franklin is sam wise always havin to save the day
Ronda was Gollum for a while tripping on that crinnack.
An LotR fan, huh?
If that's the case, this show needs a Gandalf. Or is that Franklin's mom?
Leon got his mom a house what are you talking about let his family drown he was smart to stay away from his family so his enemies can’t use them to get to him
Having a house is great, but his family was still struggling financially. One of his close relatives needed dialysis and Leon was not there to help. That's what I mean.
@@JaneforShort but his money was....
But he expected them not to spend it, that's my whole point lol. He expected for his little sister to be bitten by a dog and his relative to deal with kidney failure while they left his money buried in the yard. If your daughter needed urgent medical care you couldn't afford and there was $20K buried in your yard, would you leave it there and let her get a nasty infection in the name of loyalty?
The pic reminds me of GTA
can u talk about Jason’s Lyric? the ending?
I haven't watched that movie in awhile. I'll be sure to revisit it to see if any topics jump out at me. Thanks for commenting :)
Are you gay?
My ex wife says he reminds her of me....I think it's the walking contradiction and the range of thoughts and emotions....She was like...",Yea that too..."😂😂😁😁😂😁😂
Thwarted
I don't think he's an "ex-crip."
Why? He says he used to be a crip in the show.
@@JaneforShort , which episode is that?
I no longer have my notes from this video, so I'm not sure. I quickly Googled it today and I think the general consensus is that he's a former Crip because of his association with Karvel and his people (also because he mostly wears blue and because of his living in the projects where a certain group of crips lived), so I stand by classifying him that way in that part of the video. I believe it was said in the series, but I'm not 100% sure, so my bad about that. I don't wanna put out info that's straight up incorrect.
@@JaneforShort , no worries and I am not trying to press you for that. I honestly was just curious about it because that to me is a nuance on the show I'd be interested in. You do a great job on these thanks for providing them.
Oh, no worries on my end either! I appreciate it!
The scene where cissy was comforting him was really cringey to me, I was like "what is going on here that's your friends mama this is weird"
That's an interesting take. To me, it seemed like they were trying to tell us 1) Leon is like a second son to Cissy and 2) Leon had no one else to turn to. He was isolated after taking a life and having everything crumble around him as a consequence of his own actions. He couldn't break down and cry in front of Franklin, let alone let Franklin know how much things were affecting him. Just me though 🤷🏾♀️
Cissy even says that franklin & leon are no different to her
I mean read your comment. "Cissy comforting him was really cringey to me". She was comforting him not anything weird.
@@orionpavlos4479 I might be the problem yeah, I just can't imagine basically cuddling with my friends' mother
Shows That They Brothers For Real, After She Went Over There She Told Franklin,
I See Him No Different Than You