What are we saying then? 🤔 Are you choosing the: $349 Seestar S30 ( collabs.shop/evuvxj ) or the $499 Seestar S50? ( collabs.shop/9shogd ) 🌟🔭 🗣🗣👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼
Reckon the S50 will be on my Xmas list, prefer the longer focal length so you can get closer without cropping but still use the mosaic mode for wider shots, it’s also now £485 in UK so closer in price. Wish it had the newer sensor though.
My daughter asked me what l would like for my 70th birthday, without hesitation the ZWO Seestar 50. l enjoy astrophotograpghy and have my own self built observatory, the Seestar will be ideal for when we go on holiday abroad.
I’ve had the S50 for 9 months and have been delighted with the results, and I feel like I’ve got to know the night sky like never before. I’m interested to see the S30 but not interested in getting one, I think it is aimed at newcomers, not people who already have an S50. I hope ZWO are working on EQ mode, and I am sure they will be working on a bigger, higher resolution scope yet to be released. What a great time for astronomy and astrophotography!
As someone who isn’t a beginner in astrophotography but limited in time; the S50 has been a revelation. The accompanying software is well designed and very usable. Not always the case in astronomy. The game now is how much performance can I squeeze out of the little unit and pix.
I may wait for the s100, i havent decided. if I was to buy one right now it would probably be the s50, mainly because I think bigger is better. maybe paired with a 10" dob for the grandson to star hop with. UPDATE : Found a S50 at the local pawnshop, looks new in the box, $250 out the door. Going to give it a run tonight!
I saw a post on another video that someone had a friend that heard that ZWO Seestar are thinking of making a S70 version. I expect that will take a long time to come out if they decide to do it.
I have a S50. Seriously easy to setup and use! Been using it for a few months. Great fun but I do miss looking through a lens but then that progress I reckon. Great for newcomers to astronomy as it gives you a visual reference to what you're looking at and where in the night sky it is.
Just got my s50 in the mail today since the s30 isn't available yet. But apparently there is now a mosaic feature available for the s50 so I'm excited to get a night off work and clear skies!!! Thanks for putting all the work into such informative content.
I was about to get an S50 which would be the first telescope I've had since i was a kid, 55 years ago, but then the S30 came out so I ordered that instead.. Won't be here for 2 months so hopefully it's worth the wait.
Thank you very much Damon for your benchmark and comparative videos, that guided me in the choice of a smart telescope! I followed your affiliate link to thank you.
Thanks for the side by side comparisons. I was wondering how their results compared. I didn't see anything that made me think I needed to buy the S30. Now if ZWO comes out with a better sensor and a bigger FOV without having to do a mosaic mode. ( I spent 2 hours to capture an hour of M31 in Mosaic mode.) I would probably buy it.
You say around 5:40 that Dwarf Labs are working on a successor to the Dwarf 2. But this video was published in November 2024, and the Dwarf 3 was released some time ago, and has been extensively reviewed. I wonder if the S30 offers anything not possible with the S50 and the Dwarf 3?
A week or two ago, I decided to get the S50. It arrived 3 days ago, and all I can do is take scenery pictures with it. It's been overcast since the day it arrived and there doesn't look to be any clearing of the skies in the near future. No, rain and snow coming.
Thanks Damon. I'm 62 and my first scope was a Tasco 60mm refractor which has pretty bad optics but I learnt the night sky with it. My second scope was and still is a Meade etx 125. My third scope will be..... The s30. The etx provides superb views of planets and I love splitting double stars but is pretty bad at viewing deep sky objects. Hopefully the s30 (when it arrives) will fill the gap. Also travelling with such a small scope will be perfect. I've been lucky to view the southern sky from Aussie and the s30 will be perfect when I hopefully head south again.😅
I just ordered the S50, but may take a few weeks before I get it. It is going to seem like forever waiting for it. I will want try it when it gets warmer out again.
Great video. Thank you. I think I'm going to go ahead and get the S50. I've only just began Astrophotography with my Google Pixel 7 Pro. And while I'm very impressed with what I can get with it, it falls very (easily predictable) short of what I truly am looking for.
I just pre ordered the S30 and I cant wait. It will be my first smart scope and my first time being able to do deep sky. I have a Celestron NexStar 4SE which is my first decent telescope, but I really want to upgrade with a Carbonstar 150 and an EQ mount. Only issue is the price difference is quite extreme for what I want now
It looks like you could take either one in carry on and because you are only looking at a 10 min set up vs 2 hours for a full on astro rig, it's totally doable on vacation and you are not going to piss off the wife\GF and because it's so autonomous it can do it's thing while you go out to dinner.
Love the videos I find them very detailed and I always learn something from them. I was at the beginning of the year saving up to buy the s50 but I broke the rear window of my car so had to replace that. I then started saving again and of course my car died and had to be scrapped. Everything s50 was put on the back boiler so I could get a new car. I am now saving up for the s30 so I'm just waiting for my new car to explode 😂😂😂. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the s30 fingers crossed 🤞🤞
Preordered the S30, but wondering if I made the right choice now. At any rate, I look forward to seeing if they come out with something larger than the s50 and will likely pick that up too if my experience with the s30 is good.
I have the S50 and love it. I have also pre-ordered the S30….not to replace the S50, but to complement it. If/when ZWO comes out with a larger version of the S50, I imagine I’ll get they as well.
Why not make a small cardboard aperture stop and place it over the S30 and S50? It will cut down the brightness for planets. I do this with my 10" DOB and it lets you see more details on a planet's surface. Now, maybe you'd need to take longer exposures due to the S30/50's smaller aperture..? It would be a fun experiment I think..
what would be the point of getting an S30 or an "old" S50 when dwarf3 is available? I really see no point on that, and i am an S50 user. However I have never used a Dwarf3, but according to reviews, it seems to be better in every aspect than S30 and S50. Any thoughts?
I just got the S50 for this Christmass and I am waiting for good weather. I have also ordered a Dwarf3 for my son and I am waiting its delivery. I think I will stop here.
Ok wow I might have to get the S50! I’ve heard this is great even in the city with light pollution which would benefit me big time as I live in the city
Nice comparison. I picked up an S50 a few weeks ago. It's convenient because I have three little kids. So, currently, I have little time and energy to set up and align a full imaging rig. The S50 helps me feel like I'm accomplishing some part of AP.
I bought the S50 last week After cancelling my order for the Dwarf 3. Dwarflabs kept putting back the release date on my order. The last email I got from them was now Jan 2025 at the earliest . Im really happy with the S50 and the first images I got out of it were amazing.
Yeah, I was a bit disappointed to hear that deliveries of the D3 had been pushed back to January. Fingers crossed that there aren't any further delays!
Have been alerted to these smart telescopes, as an astronomy teacher of over 20 years, naked eye viewing astronomy nothing digital or any post-processing, I didn't even know something like this really existed. I am definitely intrigued by them, although I think I definitely would get a sense of FOMO, I would want the larger aperture size but the smaller one has a better CCD sensor it seems(??), then the mosaic function seems a bit of a limit to doubling the FOV(?) it makes me wonder why only double? Do these telescopes not track the sky at all? And if not, then should I want to wait until a feature that actually can track the sky comes out?
The D2 has received the same software upgrades as the D3. You cannot compare with the Seestar range even just for the EQ mode supported on both D2 and D3. I suggest you maybe check the reviews of the D3 that's already been published. The mosaic mode released for the Seestar just made the scope much slower than before. It was an afterthought that wouldn't have been implemented if it weren't for users' noise about it. Without EQ mode the S30 is IMO not worth even its low price.
I've had the S50 for 9 months and have had a great time with it. As telescopes go, it is already incredibly portable. Smaller and lighter was not on my improvement list. I've read up on the S30 and watched videos, but other than tracking cars and planes, the S30 doesn't do as well as the S50. For an upgrade, I'd love to see an equatorial option and/or a larger aperture. In the meantime, the Mosaic mode has been a great software upgrade.
@@Tom在加拿大 Thanks. I didn't realize that. I've only tried scenery mode a few times and wasn't trying to track anything at the time. I just looked at scenery mode again and now see the button. Vehicles might be easy. I imagine trying to catch and track a plane could be tough. Always up for a challenge. ;)
Could you make the raw files available? It would be nice to see the original images side by side on my 4K monitor. I wonder in which case the smaller objects look better and I don't want to use my phone to look at pictures taken with Seestar.
I'm sorry but I'm still a little confused. A friend of mine wants a telescope mostly for planet viewing. Do either of these scopes fill that need? Thanks.
Would have preferred the s50 resolution with a larger chip to give a wider fields but I guess I’ll be getting an S30 for cheapness, field of view and compactness.
I already have an S50, just ordered the S30. I figure I can use one for astrophotography and one for exoplanet transits, no need to choose between the two anymore 😁
I definitely want one that's better than the 50, so whatever higher number that ends up being. Bigger aperture that produces better less fuzzy pictures. I would pay $1000-1500 for it!
I saw a post on another video that someone had a friend that heard that ZWO Seestar are thinking of making a S70 version. I expect that will take a long time to come out if they decide to do it.
I’m really impressed by both the S50 and S30, but like a lot of other armature astronomers I’d really like to see an S80 as I have a Skywatcher 80 ED 600mm f/7.5 telescope and EQ6-R Pro GOTO mount and tripod. Therefore, for now, I’m hanging on to see what they come up with next year.
well its very cool for the money and all that, but both image colors are a bit off because of the filter. The nebula is not that red. I had similar results when I used a optolong l pro filter and tried to do a photometric color calibration. The star colors aren't correct and the process can't do proper color calibration.
I have the S30 on pre-order from vega vision and hoping it arrives before Christmas. I really wanted the S50 but it was out of my price range and as it’s my first step in to astronomy to encourage my space mad 7 year old I couldn’t justify the extra cost over the S30. It does look mightily impressive in its own right though. Can you recommend any other hardware/software for an absolute beginner?
I heard on Cloudy Nights that some people who initially ordered a S50 cancelled their order as there is a hype of a new and improved Seestar in the workings, having spoken to some Astronomy Shops, this can’t be proven.
You know what would push me over the edge, 60 mm, EQ option, 1.25 at the back so I can swap out the camera for the next ZWO improved camera in a few years from now. I would pay $ a grand for that.
Have the s50 and d2.took the d2 on holidays.bortle 6 Ibiza and the staff in the hotel couldn't believe how it could take photos as you could only barely make out constellations.
Both the S30 and S50 are great for beginners. Super fast setup, easy to use app to control it, and very good quality images for the price. You get a little more detail with the 50, but the wider FOV on the 30 allows imaging larger DSO without having to use mosaic mode. As Damon pointed out, you will be hard pressed to get any surface detail on Jupiter or the Saturn rings on the 30, but you aren't gonna get too much detail on either of those 2 targets with the 50 either. If I was getting into the hobby with no knowledge, I probably would go with the 30 to start off.
Looking for budget telescope would you rather have celestron star sense LT80 or the 114 one is reflector other refractor just about same specs but which would be better for moon Saturn or Jupiter all I'm really interested in right now
if choosing between 80LT & 114LT is a must. I prefer 80LT to 114LT. As 114LT with a poor bird Jones design ,you can never get a good image from it . Try to avoid all the 114 series from celestron ,they always build it with poor bird jones design and result in abnormal long focal length. If possible, try the upper version ,say 130DX , it is much better.
Ok im new to this so sorry for the dumb question. Can i open up my seestar during the day without the solar filter? Is the filter only required if im pointing directly at the sun or always in daylight? Thanks in advance 😊
I'm guessing it has the same 10/20/30 options that the S50 has, but as in the case with the 50, anything above the 10 second mark will probably have a lot of rejected subs due to star trails unless you mount it based on the eq trick people have come up with to basically give it an EQ mode.
Based only on this video, S50 hands down. With the S30 as an entry level smart scope, beginners are going to want to see the planets. Looks like the S30 is a major fail in this regard. ZWO should do an S50 with the 585 sensor for
@xchimnyx you are commenting from a place of knowledge/experience. My comment was about the S30 as an entry level device attractive to beginners, i.e. those that don't know their focal length from their aperture. Someone with no knowledge is going to buy this and the first three things they will want to see is the moon, Saturn, and Jupiter. This device fails at 2 of these 3, and there will be disappointment. Some may push on to view other objects. Others may just give up right there, thinking there is something wrong with it.
@xchimnyx I'll reserve judgment on that point depending on if ZWO puts clear pictures of the planets on the packaging, like the rest of the entry level "Christmas" scopes.
I don't own one yet. I'm waiting for a better ZWO Seastar model like 70, 80 or 100mm with better image sensor, tracking & 256 or 512gb storage or better yet takes a SD card as well for backup storage. Tracking is important to me as I only watch planets, moon, sun & so on.
I really like my dwarf 2 and the seestar s50 the quality of the image of the seestar is better but the dwarf2 could go Eq mode and for me it have least drop off picture at the end lice them both
Hy Damon, Can you make a beginner friendly setup! A idea from me: I am planning to buy Skywatcher star adventure 2i -very cheap for a mount tbh Canon t3i-very used in astrophotography (proof-astrobin) eBay used to make it cheap And then any good refractor or lens For a refractor my eyes are on skywatcher evostar 72ed also not expensive in Amazon Hope this setup suits many beginners with 1k budget!! And if you try this, then I will definitely buy this setup cause I know you will show results with this
I have the same set up when I first started but with the cannon T-7 then bought the 3i later for the flip screen and the Orion field flattener, had some great results with just a tracker
I absolutely love my Seestar S50! Fortunately, I live in a country where the skies are clear 320 days a year. Almost every night, after a long and exhausting workday, I set up my chair fixed a phone holder to it, make a cup of coffee, activate my Seestar, and then enjoy scanning the night sky. Even under a Bortle 7 sky, I’m able to observe any star, planet, to star cluster, nebula, and galaxy that I find in the sky atlas. really, I feel like I have 24-inch dobsonian telescope!
Regarding the Dwarflab comments at the end, I have the S50 and Dwarf3 and previously had the Dwarf2. IMHO, the Dwarf3 is a vast improvement on the Dwarf2. I was never happy with the very noisy (even with fresh darks) images I got from the Dwarf2, while the Dwarf3, with its optics and sensor upgrades (as well, I'm sure, as software updates) is much better quality straight from the telescope in the limited usage I've had so far. It also includes a guide to help set up in equatorial mode. Also, the Dwarf3 has a party trick that the S30 lacks - wide-angle astrophotography. ZWO has said that the sensor for the wide-angle lens on the S30 cannot take longer exposures and will not do image stacking like the main lens does in stargazing mode. That means it will miss out on Milky Way shots that I've seen a lot of questions about. With the wide-angle astrophotography on the D3, I was able to take images of C/2023 A3 next to the Milky Way back in October/early-November. I look forward to the S30, but, at this point, I think the D3 is a better compact smart telescope.
France: Seestar S30= 490€ 😡😡😡 et S50= 619€ Pour ma part je ne le commanderais pas, car les images sont inferieures a cause de la petite ouverture de 30mm. ne vaut pas plus de 250€
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What are we saying then? 🤔
Are you choosing the:
$349 Seestar S30 ( collabs.shop/evuvxj )
or the
$499 Seestar S50? ( collabs.shop/9shogd )
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Neither, can you please provide a review of the Juwei 17 please?
@@nikaxstrophotographymmm not really what this video is about and not answering the question either, but bless you, you tried.
@@forestntt72 and you are?
Dwarf 3
Reckon the S50 will be on my Xmas list, prefer the longer focal length so you can get closer without cropping but still use the mosaic mode for wider shots, it’s also now £485 in UK so closer in price. Wish it had the newer sensor though.
My daughter asked me what l would like for my 70th birthday, without hesitation the ZWO Seestar 50. l enjoy astrophotograpghy and have my own self built observatory, the Seestar will be ideal for when we go on holiday abroad.
what scopes do u have
@@Jeeprepdiaries12 RVO 72ED scope with 50mm guidescope, Zwo asiair pro, Zwo eaf,a nikon D610 dslr mounted on Skywatcher HEQ5.
@@tonydd1735 nicee have you ever tried a dobsonian???
I’ve had the S50 for 9 months and have been delighted with the results, and I feel like I’ve got to know the night sky like never before. I’m interested to see the S30 but not interested in getting one, I think it is aimed at newcomers, not people who already have an S50. I hope ZWO are working on EQ mode, and I am sure they will be working on a bigger, higher resolution scope yet to be released. What a great time for astronomy and astrophotography!
As someone who isn’t a beginner in astrophotography but limited in time; the S50 has been a revelation. The accompanying software is well designed and very usable. Not always the case in astronomy. The game now is how much performance can I squeeze out of the little unit and pix.
I ordered an S50 just today. 😀 Thanks for the excellent videos.
The Seestar app was just updated to include an intelligent denoise function. I have to admit that it does a very good job.
I may wait for the s100, i havent decided. if I was to buy one right now it would probably be the s50, mainly because I think bigger is better. maybe paired with a 10" dob for the grandson to star hop with. UPDATE : Found a S50 at the local pawnshop, looks new in the box, $250 out the door. Going to give it a run tonight!
Results?
I saw a post on another video that someone had a friend that heard that ZWO Seestar are thinking of making a S70 version. I expect that will take a long time to come out if they decide to do it.
Hi I have the S50 it's so good I can't see the point of going to the S30 and now with mosaic mode it's made it 100% better , nice video
Loved your last 3 vids. Am a S50 owner and will now be able to recommend either of these Seestars to friends for a Christmas present.
I have a S50. Seriously easy to setup and use! Been using it for a few months. Great fun but I do miss looking through a lens but then that progress I reckon. Great for newcomers to astronomy as it gives you a visual reference to what you're looking at and where in the night sky it is.
Great side by side. I appreciate it.
Just got the S50 can't wait to use it
S50 IS ON SALE TOO! Nov 20 until beginning of Jan. at Seestar.
Just got my s50 in the mail today since the s30 isn't available yet. But apparently there is now a mosaic feature available for the s50 so I'm excited to get a night off work and clear skies!!! Thanks for putting all the work into such informative content.
Want dwarf 3 comparison please
I was about to get an S50 which would be the first telescope I've had since i was a kid, 55 years ago, but then the S30 came out so I ordered that instead.. Won't be here for 2 months so hopefully it's worth the wait.
I love the scenery mode of the seestar, where you can take great footage of animals and stuff like that.
Nice results especially for the price
Thank you very much Damon for your benchmark and comparative videos, that guided me in the choice of a smart telescope!
I followed your affiliate link to thank you.
Thanks for the side by side comparisons. I was wondering how their results compared. I didn't see anything that made me think I needed to buy the S30. Now if ZWO comes out with a better sensor and a bigger FOV without having to do a mosaic mode. ( I spent 2 hours to capture an hour of M31 in Mosaic mode.) I would probably buy it.
You say around 5:40 that Dwarf Labs are working on a successor to the Dwarf 2. But this video was published in November 2024, and the Dwarf 3 was released some time ago, and has been extensively reviewed. I wonder if the S30 offers anything not possible with the S50 and the Dwarf 3?
A week or two ago, I decided to get the S50. It arrived 3 days ago, and all I can do is take scenery pictures with it. It's been overcast since the day it arrived and there doesn't look to be any clearing of the skies in the near future. No, rain and snow coming.
Thanks Damon. I'm 62 and my first scope was a Tasco 60mm refractor which has pretty bad optics but I learnt the night sky with it. My second scope was and still is a Meade etx 125. My third scope will be..... The s30. The etx provides superb views of planets and I love splitting double stars but is pretty bad at viewing deep sky objects. Hopefully the s30 (when it arrives) will fill the gap. Also travelling with such a small scope will be perfect. I've been lucky to view the southern sky from Aussie and the s30 will be perfect when I hopefully head south again.😅
definitely considering buying one next year
I just ordered the S50, but may take a few weeks before I get it. It is going to seem like forever waiting for it. I will want try it when it gets warmer out again.
Great video. Thank you. I think I'm going to go ahead and get the S50. I've only just began Astrophotography with my Google Pixel 7 Pro. And while I'm very impressed with what I can get with it, it falls very (easily predictable) short of what I truly am looking for.
I really want the seestar but I'm waiting for a bigger version with equatorial mount.
I just pre ordered the S30 and I cant wait. It will be my first smart scope and my first time being able to do deep sky. I have a Celestron NexStar 4SE which is my first decent telescope, but I really want to upgrade with a Carbonstar 150 and an EQ mount. Only issue is the price difference is quite extreme for what I want now
It looks like you could take either one in carry on and because you are only looking at a 10 min set up vs 2 hours for a full on astro rig, it's totally doable on vacation and you are not going to piss off the wife\GF and because it's so autonomous it can do it's thing while you go out to dinner.
Love the videos I find them very detailed and I always learn something from them. I was at the beginning of the year saving up to buy the s50 but I broke the rear window of my car so had to replace that. I then started saving again and of course my car died and had to be scrapped. Everything s50 was put on the back boiler so I could get a new car. I am now saving up for the s30 so I'm just waiting for my new car to explode 😂😂😂. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the s30 fingers crossed 🤞🤞
I live in Manchester England and would love to be able to buy in store somewhere. Is there anywhere you know that stock the S50 to buy in person?
Preordered the S30, but wondering if I made the right choice now. At any rate, I look forward to seeing if they come out with something larger than the s50 and will likely pick that up too if my experience with the s30 is good.
I have the S50 and love it. I have also pre-ordered the S30….not to replace the S50, but to complement it. If/when ZWO comes out with a larger version of the S50, I imagine I’ll get they as well.
Why not make a small cardboard aperture stop and place it over the S30 and S50? It will cut down the brightness for planets. I do this with my 10" DOB and it lets you see more details on a planet's surface. Now, maybe you'd need to take longer exposures due to the S30/50's smaller aperture..? It would be a fun experiment I think..
Does it matter what smart phone you have? Or does it have to be a recent model?
what would be the point of getting an S30 or an "old" S50 when dwarf3 is available? I really see no point on that, and i am an S50 user. However I have never used a Dwarf3, but according to reviews, it seems to be better in every aspect than S30 and S50. Any thoughts?
I agree, many more features to play with. EQ mode, wide angle astro and scheduled shooting to name a few!
I have the S50 and would not change it, simple to use and gets great pictures of what I wish.
I just got the S50 for this Christmass and I am waiting for good weather. I have also ordered a Dwarf3 for my son and I am waiting its delivery. I think I will stop here.
Ok wow I might have to get the S50! I’ve heard this is great even in the city with light pollution which would benefit me big time as I live in the city
Nice comparison. I picked up an S50 a few weeks ago. It's convenient because I have three little kids. So, currently, I have little time and energy to set up and align a full imaging rig. The S50 helps me feel like I'm accomplishing some part of AP.
I bought the S50 last week After cancelling my order for the Dwarf 3. Dwarflabs kept putting back the release date on my order.
The last email I got from them was now Jan 2025 at the earliest . Im really happy with the S50 and the first images I got out of it were amazing.
Yeah, I was a bit disappointed to hear that deliveries of the D3 had been pushed back to January. Fingers crossed that there aren't any further delays!
Hasn't the Dwarf 3 been out for months? Reviews on it span back to at least that time...
I tried capturing Jupiter tonight with the S50 but I can’t seem to make out the bands and it’s just a bright circle.
So Damon which one is your favorite ❓I'm new to this and (without mentioning his name) ET says it's a waiste of 💵 to Waite for prices to come down 🤷
Excellent video ... where is the link to the post edit free software you mentioned please I cant seem to see it thanks
Have been alerted to these smart telescopes, as an astronomy teacher of over 20 years, naked eye viewing astronomy nothing digital or any post-processing, I didn't even know something like this really existed. I am definitely intrigued by them, although I think I definitely would get a sense of FOMO, I would want the larger aperture size but the smaller one has a better CCD sensor it seems(??), then the mosaic function seems a bit of a limit to doubling the FOV(?) it makes me wonder why only double? Do these telescopes not track the sky at all? And if not, then should I want to wait until a feature that actually can track the sky comes out?
Hello, I am getting a telescope and maybe you could review it? That would help me alot it's the classic 8' dobsonian telescope
The D2 has received the same software upgrades as the D3. You cannot compare with the Seestar range even just for the EQ mode supported on both D2 and D3. I suggest you maybe check the reviews of the D3 that's already been published. The mosaic mode released for the Seestar just made the scope much slower than before. It was an afterthought that wouldn't have been implemented if it weren't for users' noise about it. Without EQ mode the S30 is IMO not worth even its low price.
I've had the S50 for 9 months and have had a great time with it. As telescopes go, it is already incredibly portable. Smaller and lighter was not on my improvement list. I've read up on the S30 and watched videos, but other than tracking cars and planes, the S30 doesn't do as well as the S50. For an upgrade, I'd love to see an equatorial option and/or a larger aperture. In the meantime, the Mosaic mode has been a great software upgrade.
Try your s50. It's also able to tracking truck or airplane.
@@Tom在加拿大 Thanks. I didn't realize that. I've only tried scenery mode a few times and wasn't trying to track anything at the time. I just looked at scenery mode again and now see the button. Vehicles might be easy. I imagine trying to catch and track a plane could be tough. Always up for a challenge. ;)
I know each scope has its benefits and downsides, but as someone looking to buy their very first which would you recommend in a vacuum?
How do I know this is an original image and not a fake? How do I know it's not a generated image? Is it worth the money?
I have the S50. Its a great little scope. However when Seestar started telling us something new was coming, I really hoped for a bigger version.
Could you make the raw files available?
It would be nice to see the original images side by side on my 4K monitor.
I wonder in which case the smaller objects look better and I don't want to use my phone to look at pictures taken with Seestar.
I'm sorry but I'm still a little confused. A friend of mine wants a telescope mostly for planet viewing. Do either of these scopes fill that need? Thanks.
Would have preferred the s50 resolution with a larger chip to give a wider fields but I guess I’ll be getting an S30 for cheapness, field of view and compactness.
What is the safest site to purchase? I went to the seestar store but it looked like a foreign site so I was worried.
I just got a S50 on sale for $450, waiting for clears skies to use it.
I already have an S50, just ordered the S30. I figure I can use one for astrophotography and one for exoplanet transits, no need to choose between the two anymore 😁
I definitely want one that's better than the 50, so whatever higher number that ends up being. Bigger aperture that produces better less fuzzy pictures. I would pay $1000-1500 for it!
I saw a post on another video that someone had a friend that heard that ZWO Seestar are thinking of making a S70 version. I expect that will take a long time to come out if they decide to do it.
I’m really impressed by both the S50 and S30, but like a lot of other armature astronomers I’d really like to see an S80 as I have a Skywatcher 80 ED 600mm f/7.5 telescope and EQ6-R Pro GOTO mount and tripod. Therefore, for now, I’m hanging on to see what they come up with next year.
well its very cool for the money and all that, but both image colors are a bit off because of the filter. The nebula is not that red. I had similar results when I used a optolong l pro filter and tried to do a photometric color calibration. The star colors aren't correct and the process can't do proper color calibration.
Just ordered the S30 - New to the hobby but struggling to find time to setup Skywatcher and Camera - almost always under rubbish Yorkshire skys
i want to stream the sky at night to my friends, is it possible to pull the image or video even to the pc and stream it via OBS
Have you done any more deepsky imaging with the HAC125? I received mine a short time ago, but haven't been able to try it out.
No mention of the dwarf 3 that has been reviewed and available in the uk soon?
I have the S30 on pre-order from vega vision and hoping it arrives before Christmas. I really wanted the S50 but it was out of my price range and as it’s my first step in to astronomy to encourage my space mad 7 year old I couldn’t justify the extra cost over the S30. It does look mightily impressive in its own right though.
Can you recommend any other hardware/software for an absolute beginner?
I heard on Cloudy Nights that some people who initially ordered a S50 cancelled their order as there is a hype of a new and improved Seestar in the workings, having spoken to some Astronomy Shops, this can’t be proven.
Are you going to do a review of the HC 125 you have there?
You know what would push me over the edge, 60 mm, EQ option, 1.25 at the back so I can swap out the camera for the next ZWO improved camera in a few years from now. I would pay $ a grand for that.
Have the s50 and d2.took the d2 on holidays.bortle 6 Ibiza and the staff in the hotel couldn't believe how it could take photos as you could only barely make out constellations.
do you recommend the seastar s50 for a beginner
sure man, because it does all job for you, but as you can see S30 has almost identical results, so maybe you can pay less for cheapre version
Both the S30 and S50 are great for beginners. Super fast setup, easy to use app to control it, and very good quality images for the price. You get a little more detail with the 50, but the wider FOV on the 30 allows imaging larger DSO without having to use mosaic mode. As Damon pointed out, you will be hard pressed to get any surface detail on Jupiter or the Saturn rings on the 30, but you aren't gonna get too much detail on either of those 2 targets with the 50 either. If I was getting into the hobby with no knowledge, I probably would go with the 30 to start off.
Can you please do a video on the dwarf 3 and compare it to the S30?
Looking for budget telescope would you rather have celestron star sense LT80 or the 114 one is reflector other refractor just about same specs but which would be better for moon Saturn or Jupiter all I'm really interested in right now
if choosing between 80LT & 114LT is a must. I prefer 80LT to 114LT. As 114LT with a poor bird Jones design ,you can never get a good image from it . Try to avoid all the 114 series from celestron ,they always build it with poor bird jones design and result in abnormal long focal length.
If possible, try the upper version ,say 130DX , it is much better.
I think the S30 has its place…but WOW, is the S50 better. If you have the money, i absolutely would recommend the S50…
Ok im new to this so sorry for the dumb question. Can i open up my seestar during the day without the solar filter? Is the filter only required if im pointing directly at the sun or always in daylight? Thanks in advance 😊
Yes, only need the solar filter if it’s pointed toward the sun
@RHeisey Thank you for your reply and help. I thought that would be the case, as in directly at the sun?
Can you take a second or so exposure with these scopes to capture the Trapezium in M42?
I'm guessing it has the same 10/20/30 options that the S50 has, but as in the case with the 50, anything above the 10 second mark will probably have a lot of rejected subs due to star trails unless you mount it based on the eq trick people have come up with to basically give it an EQ mode.
Please do a review imagino sesión with the HAC 125..
How can I use Registax 6 to edit some moon photos on my desktop?
I got the S50 scope for $299 from Amazon. Must be clearing them out.
How much success are y'all having seeing planet details?
5:45 - That will be the Dwarf 3, then.
Based only on this video, S50 hands down. With the S30 as an entry level smart scope, beginners are going to want to see the planets. Looks like the S30 is a major fail in this regard.
ZWO should do an S50 with the 585 sensor for
Planets need focal length and that comes with a price. If people buy tiny 250mm smart scopes and expect planets they deserve to be upset
@xchimnyx you are commenting from a place of knowledge/experience. My comment was about the S30 as an entry level device attractive to beginners, i.e. those that don't know their focal length from their aperture. Someone with no knowledge is going to buy this and the first three things they will want to see is the moon, Saturn, and Jupiter. This device fails at 2 of these 3, and there will be disappointment. Some may push on to view other objects. Others may just give up right there, thinking there is something wrong with it.
@millenialfalcon8243 not doing research on any product above $100 is foolish and they deserve the disappointment.
@xchimnyx I'll reserve judgment on that point depending on if ZWO puts clear pictures of the planets on the packaging, like the rest of the entry level "Christmas" scopes.
I'll wait for the s80
I don't own one yet. I'm waiting for a better ZWO Seastar model like 70, 80 or 100mm with better image sensor, tracking & 256 or 512gb storage or better yet takes a SD card as well for backup storage. Tracking is important to me as I only watch planets, moon, sun & so on.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, use your influence and tell them to create Windows Seestar and ASIAR app for live streaming.... PLEASE....
i think the links in the description are the same
Well now my S50 is feeling lonely...
S50 😊
Hi Damon, when Skywatcher HAF 125 and Juwei 17 review?
Just posted them both, enjoy :)
My S30 was only 329$ with coupon.
Im sticking with my s50 and not even interested in the s30 especially now that the 50 has mosaic mode.
Wonder what an S80 or S100 would be like ;)
I really like my dwarf 2 and the seestar s50 the quality of the image of the seestar is better but the dwarf2 could go Eq mode and for me it have least drop off picture at the end lice them both
Hy Damon,
Can you make a beginner friendly setup!
A idea from me:
I am planning to buy
Skywatcher star adventure 2i -very cheap for a mount tbh
Canon t3i-very used in astrophotography (proof-astrobin) eBay used to make it cheap
And then any good refractor or lens
For a refractor my eyes are on skywatcher evostar 72ed also not expensive in Amazon
Hope this setup suits many beginners with 1k budget!!
And if you try this, then I will definitely buy this setup cause I know you will show results with this
I have the same set up when I first started but with the cannon T-7 then bought the 3i later for the flip screen and the Orion field flattener, had some great results with just a tracker
@@jimcarter2092 If I can see your results , it would be great
Anyway thanks dude for commenting!!
I absolutely love my Seestar S50! Fortunately, I live in a country where the skies are clear 320 days a year. Almost every night, after a long and exhausting workday, I set up my chair fixed a phone holder to it, make a cup of coffee, activate my Seestar, and then enjoy scanning the night sky. Even under a Bortle 7 sky, I’m able to observe any star, planet, to star cluster, nebula, and galaxy that I find in the sky atlas. really, I feel like I have 24-inch dobsonian telescope!
I’m getting the S50
Regarding the Dwarflab comments at the end, I have the S50 and Dwarf3 and previously had the Dwarf2.
IMHO, the Dwarf3 is a vast improvement on the Dwarf2. I was never happy with the very noisy (even with fresh darks) images I got from the Dwarf2, while the Dwarf3, with its optics and sensor upgrades (as well, I'm sure, as software updates) is much better quality straight from the telescope in the limited usage I've had so far. It also includes a guide to help set up in equatorial mode.
Also, the Dwarf3 has a party trick that the S30 lacks - wide-angle astrophotography. ZWO has said that the sensor for the wide-angle lens on the S30 cannot take longer exposures and will not do image stacking like the main lens does in stargazing mode. That means it will miss out on Milky Way shots that I've seen a lot of questions about. With the wide-angle astrophotography on the D3, I was able to take images of C/2023 A3 next to the Milky Way back in October/early-November.
I look forward to the S30, but, at this point, I think the D3 is a better compact smart telescope.
Nicee
S50 all the way!
France: Seestar S30= 490€ 😡😡😡 et S50= 619€ Pour ma part je ne le commanderais pas, car les images sont inferieures a cause de la petite ouverture de 30mm. ne vaut pas plus de 250€