World of Warcraft’s Return To Lordaeron
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2023
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With a ton of mounting evidence (including newly uncovered things), it seems the game is making a return to one of Warcraft’s most iconic places on Azeroth: Lordaeron. It was basically wiped out undead, yet is home to the beginning of humans and some of the most important human things in WoW, including Arthas, Prince of Lordaeron, who became Lich King. There are a ton of storylines that can be carried forward and made fresh, we might see an uncorrupted Lordaeron for the first time in-game, lots of political intrigue is possible with the allegations of a forgotten true heir to the throne from an evil anti-undead cult everyone loves - the Scarlet.
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uh my tauren and bloodelf highlord of the silverhand would have something to say about joining the alliance :P
Man you didn’t mention Alterac!
I hate to say it but.....the Banshee Queen is not gone....blizz just announced they're bringing back the Sylvanas writer who was responsible for all the BS Mary Sue story writing for Sylvanas and she just tweeted she is unapologetic and has plans to bring Sylvanas back into the spot light......
in all these years the alliance never had problems between them like the horde had… like 4/5 warchiefs and allot civil wars going on, now is the perfect time to give the alliance side a war between themselves, Andwuin coming back to take hes Throne many humans in the stormwind city dont want him on the throne, now is the perfect time for them make Turalyon go away from stormwind and unite the other human kingdoms to create a new order of the light with the Scarlet crusaders ,the league of Arathor and the rest of the paladins from argent dawn and Anderhol. let Turalyon get all those light order people back together and they cleanse Lordearon from the plague and they get back undercity for the humans as other capitol city. the undeads could get that back living in the underground or along side with the humans above, sense millions of the undead are priests and warriors along side with mages from the scarlet crusade. and now its the perfect time to interduce undead Paladin class in the game! why undead can be warriors / Holy priests and they cannot be a paladin? a paladin is a warrior that uses holy magic to heal and imbue hes weapon to fight! Taurens get their paladin class from nonsense! they one day they look at the sky saw the Sun oh look sun = paladin? blizzard stop making stupid stuff without a sense!
i am not an alliance player, for 20 years i love the horde and my orc warrior! but it would be awsome to see something like this to happen! i just give an idea of a huge patch and lore that blizzard can work with. DONT destroy THE TURALYON LORE he is the most badass guy the alliance have! let him be the King of Lordearon and Rule with arthas sister.
Turalyon could create the new Order of the Light by naming it *The purifiers* and bring the Light to restore all those places destroyed by the scourge of old!
You do realize that we, The Carnies of The Darkmoon Faire, are all now officially responsible for all that has gone down right?! I mean, my dearest superior, Silas Darkmoon should have known that something like this was about to go down, right?! I mean, we DID have a literal Scarlet Crusader TERRORIST in our ranks!
As much as I like the build up for the cosmic war against de void, all this geopolitical stories are waaaay more intresting imo. That's why I really hope the next expansion brings a World Revamp.
Only concern is how would they handle it. BfA, ostensibly an entire expansion marketed around a massive geopolitical crisis, very quickly pivoted away from that
As someone who hasn't played retail since WoD having a massive overhaul of the world map and storylines would bring me back.
probably to much work for them these days
This is what I wish the focus of the story was. Instead of big bad magical baddies. I want some Game of Thrones style factions battling it out, political subterfuge.
@@michaelkovalsky4907 yeah bfa was a good idea but poor execution. People thought it would bring back old wow with orcs versus humans. But what we got was orc versus dinosaur, who saw that coming
God I hope Gilneas and Lordearon become new hubs with rebuild quests and more. It would be neat if they went into something like “druids and shamans plant trees” or something similar. I’d be so excited to cleanse it and my Worgen would love to return home
Agreed that’s be super cool kinda like the aq event but throughout it you can see the cities growing and getting more lively
Revenge time.
Burn the Forsaken
Ya, im hoping SW gets devistated by the void and the capital moves to a rebuilt Stormgarde
My Worgen Vali is definitely out for revenge for his buddy prince Liam
Why would they focud on small scale quest like that now, they never did that, they will focus more on world shattering events, intergalactic traveling, space time hopping shite continuing to bury azeroth to oblivion
I wanna see silvermoon become a fleshed out real city you can fly over, it has a really cool layout. This really needs to become a reality, the fact you cant fly in that area still, in 2023 is kind of wild.
It’s my favorite city and zone despite how out of date it is. All the colors and buildings are so unique and interesting. I hope for this too!
Yea same with exodar. Really need flying in those places
@@rosatopia5256 aw yea i love the exodar and draenei civilisation
Don't forget the eversong and ghostlands music
It is a shame but understandable. Those zones simply aren't relevant content so there's very little reason to spend the resources needed to completely overhaul them so you can fly over them unless they make them relevant like they did in Cataclysm.
Having more content in already existing zones would definitely help WoW as an mmo in my opinion. having people of different lvls doing different things in the same zone makes the world feel much more alive
My biggest wow dream is to retake Gilneas, and I think having Lordaeron and Gilneas as new capitals / hubs would be absolutely amazing. Generally, Lordaeron as a whole is my fav lore in the game, with Eastern and Western Plaguelands, Lights Hope, Quel'thalas, GIlneas, Tirisfal, etc.
You didn't even have access to Gilneas for over a decade locked behind "under construction" gates hinted that Gilneans didn't want you.
Having the Horde and Alliance have their main cities in Gilneas and Lordaeron for an expansion would be wild since they are so close to each other.
Would be super fun for world PvP @@kroneexe
The best possible next expansion would be a full revamp of everything north of the Thandol span, from Gilneas to Sunwell, Hopefully making Zul'Aman more than a hole in the wall and connecting Stratholme to Deathholme like they're so clearly meant to if they were on the same map. There's so many hints starting to point this way; Even the Silver Hand popping up in the DF Tyr questline. We must also remember The Hinterlands - with the Wildhammer Dwarves, A mix of troll clans, and even some of the only official alliance high elf NPCs, who stayed aligned with the Wildhammers (And mostly got killed by horde players in a quest). But I think that whole chunk needs some love too.
I'd like to see more local and personal stories instead of "EXISTENSIAL THREAT, WE ALL GONA DIE!!! MORE DRAGONS, EXPLOSIONS, FIRE, EPIC!!!" I really liked that little story with Shaw (armor set for Allience)
We got the "local" stories with DF. Bring back war and mayhem!
@@RandomStuff404s
“local“ stories?
On an island we‘ve never been to before, surrounded by things we‘ve never seen before, fighting bad guys who we never even heard of before. How is any of that shit local stories?
If Dragonflight is missing anything, it's a real threat. Oh no, Incarnates, this big thing we've somehow never heard of.... who cares?
Didn't they do that with bfa and everyone hated it? Most of the expansion was themed around the faction conflict.
@@ikiwyu it was the execution failure, not idea. BTW that quest line with the witches was awesome for me. The music and story was great. Nothing extrodinary but solid execution of an idea
Bruh i might not be native english speaker but it's apothecary not apochethary.
Glad I'm not the only one hearing it.
I really hope Lordearon will be one of the playgrounds in next expansion. Return of the Scarlet Crusade to Lordearon means hopefully a revamped Scarlet Monastery AND Stratholme. And if they come back from Northrend, they might need a dock somewhere and that could be in that Northern Lordearon (currently unused map space) that's fan fictioned for years.
Did you forget the return to Lordaeron quests at the end of Shadowlands, mate? You know, the one where the Desolate Council sends a message to Genn about the turning over of Gilneas?
That wouldn't make a RUclips video tho. Instead, Genn attacking Forsaken.
@@winzoln True. Unfortunately, the last few videos Bellular has put out have been full of tinfoil hat conspiracy BS and lacking on actual in-game lore. It's kinda sad.
@@Maria_Erias He needs to make filler content on his channel heh
They should just make a Suramar 2.0, a really big city available to both factions as a hub, something like Dalaran back in Legion, with some history books inside that tell the story of this place, what it became and what it is now.
This video was so refreshing. Thank you for making it. It brings back those world of warcraft feelings that have been missing for so long.
After hearing you build it up, I really hope we get a "cata-esque" old world revamp next. Another "pause" expansion before we start the war of light and void would be welcome. And reinvesting in the old world would be a great way to introduce player housing.
these lore videos are more fun than the game it self
Let’s gooo, thanks for the content. Less time to video game these days. Your videos help me stay connected to the story I still love
Your lore videos are something that are a joy to watch and I always look forward to them.
Calia might become a problem for the Forsaken eventually because that whole "bringing her back as the Light and she herself would have her be" is kinda concerning. I mean the only reason the light would want her as an undead is to control the only race that can resist its influence. Cant think of any other reason why the Naaru can suddenly bring people back as undead. So Commander Belmont has some good reasons not to trust her.
Chances are they may not have much of a choice. Their numbers keep shrinking with each war the forsaken fought in. Remember, they can't reproduce and without the Val'kyr, its gonna be harder to raise more dead.
I hope she is, and I hope the forsaken choke on it. Lordaeron for the living.
I'd love to see the zone between the Ghostlands and the Eastern Plaguelands get some use. Like, maybe there's a Scourge force there that we don't know about that's been brewing this whole time. There could be anything in that zone for us to explore.
As someone who mains a Worgen, I could soooooooooo get behind reclaiming my home city of Gilneas! I hate that it just has sat devoid of any life what so ever for so many years, not even critters have made Gilneas their home
I'm really interested how the new blood elf zones (eversong forest/silvermoon city/quel danas/ghostlands) will look like after the revamp
Apocathary? Or Apothacary
Since you asked, it's Apothecary
20:47 Dagran Thaurissan, not Thassarian. Good video btw, your prologue at the beginning gave me chills. THAT should be an expansion in itself!
Velonara, not Valiona. Valiona is a twilight dragon from Bastion of Twilight.
What makes the subcontinent of Lordaeron so interesting and so classic is that it contains so many cliché and Tolkienesque races in fantasy:
Humans, Dwarves, Elves, Orcs, Undead, Trolls, Werewolves
Compare that to the regions of Azeroth (mostly humans, trolls, and orcs), Khaz Modan (dwarves, orcs), and Northern Kalimdor (elves)
Don't ever worry about your videos "going on long enough" stuff like this is awesome. Even as speculation it's still good lore knowledge.
hey thanks for being one of the only people on youtube with a reasonable opinion on turalyon. the obsession especially wowtwt has with villain batting turalyon with extremely little reason to believe he would "go on a crazy zealous crusade" is insane to me. I like the idea of Turalyon being more pragmatic and measured than say wrath era Varian, but still more willing to go into conflict than Anduin. Completely agreed that if they do his character right, he could serve as an alliance character who can create or be involved with conflict without it feeling like an insane heel turn.
Right I just finished watching lore videos about him and it would feel so out of character for him to become a murderous nut
This sounds fascinating! I hope that Blizz does something along these lines. We need more content focused on Azeroth and the state of the world, trying to clean up some of the mess and the fall out that has on the other factions.
I had no idea about the apocathery group in WOW until this vid came out, thanks!
Lor'themar's new voicing? Sir it's been ten years since he got that VA!
If the Scarlet crusade from northrend is actually coming back, strategically they would retake strathomle so their fleet could be safe and dock properly
People want Genn to be a warlord so bad that they just ignore he refused the Stormwind throne and was recently told that the Forsaken are pulling out of GIlneas willingly so that he can reclaim it.
Bro you keep pronouncing 'apockethery' and i'm loving it lol -> 4:36 5:25
Btw great vid as always, ty
Can’t express how much I would love this. The Scarlett Heir has connotations of 17th Century Britain - secret heirs and clandestine religious orders all plotting for the throne. Great stuff
I haven’t played the game in a year but I still love bellulars videos
God ,this sounds so freaking good.They could make like another 10 expansions based on old world and lore,updated world (graphics) with updated lore in the zones...so good
it'd be perfect for the 20 year anniversary too, circling back to refreshed vanilla environments
Maiking a Vanilla+ (Like turtel Wow) bigger zones and New quests, in wow is so much empty Space and thats Sad.
The next expansion for WoW starting and expanding from Lordaeron would be an amazing way for Blizzard to say to the player base "Welcome home!" I can't think of a better way.
Oh yeah,they could literally start revamp from north to south and just updating and expanding curent lore with modern graphics
@@Popikaify I think the playerbase could care less about graphics and more about just expanding everything else.
@@BeyondDaX i disagree,think they care about both,but lets see what we getnin november
I can see Stratholme getting rebuilt as a combination Forsaken/Blood Elf city (major quest hub city, but not a capitol, kinda like the Crossroads or Menithil Harbor), and the Alliance doing the same with Stromgarde Keep, in addition to Gilneas and Lordaeron coming back and the new World Tree as a home for the Night Elves.
If done properly there is surely a story to tell. Btw i mainly play horde but would love to see gilneas reclaimed by worgen and also the menethill hint (if it ends up going into canon wow) cerainly seems very intriguing.
I'd love for there to be a whole expansion where the threat was local and "small", not some big, reality-ending god or something. The PCs have canonically taken down some very serious threats, but how do they handle it when they can't just grab some new McGuffin and pew-pew the threat without creating a lot of enemies? It's like how people say Superman is boring because he's so powerful, but then someone comes along with the "one more happy day" suicide jumper story as if to say, "He's not boring, you're just not very imaginative."
Speaking of the Hinterlands, I wonder if the Highvale elves will get any story progression. They've just sort of sat at Quel'danil since vanilla, with no real indication of whether or not they've joined the Silver Covenant, etc.
Quality writing for the intro, very flavorful.
It would be awesome for all this to happen. I'd love to real lore bits added to the game, going back to old places and renewing things there.
The "Long lost heir" Scarlet comment reminded me of a profile I saw on a RP realm years ago that summed up as "This character is Arthas' long lost black half brother". I don't know if it was a joke profile or they was legit playing that.
Blizz absolutely needs to bring back the solo scenario system.
And bring it back for classic too, so we can do dungeons in classic without having to find the rare full group
Blizzard just doesn’t understand that the the old world is what I and so many other players fell in love with all those years ago. Dragonflight is by all rights a solid xpac, but I just don’t care about the dragon isles or any of the other DLC zones for the past decade or so
I've been waiting a long time for some big moves from Genn. He needs his home back.
This would be great.
Getting back to that old world feel and lore.
I want a Renown track for every faction. Convert the old reps for new players and give old players the equivalent renown level. Thats easy, its just math.
So Horde and Alliance becomes two of many options to rep. Then you can really go nuts with Faction pvp. Encorperate the races into it and soon you got teams and leagues. Holy shit. Then you know what you can do. Have actual War in World of Warcaft. 20 vs 20 battles based on WoW history.
"Hey, do you have a BF or Undead leveled? We want to play Arthas vs Silvermoon next week"
"Shit no. Ill level one."
I hope next expansion is more of a prepare for the void invasion type expansion. Paving way for a world revamp and internal conflict within azeroth.
There's so many stories they could do with the original continents, I'd love to see lots of small factions fighting, like gilneas, the forsaken, blood elves, scarlet, silver hand, ebon blade, scourge, amani etc etc.
The only thing I'd worry about with this is how to make this an expansion that would keep people interested. One of the best parts of a new expansion is the exploration of a new unknown place. I'd love it if they could make it work, though.
My Forsaken Main: Ah crap here we go again...
Bloodelves: * conquers the Northern part of Lorderon after Sylvannas decides to go full Oppenheimer *
That half of Silvermoon city full of mana crackheads after fifteen years:
Returning Home concept would be great
We need a new revamp, rebuild Silvermoon, Undetcity and Gilneas, new Holds on Northrend and Outland, a Mega Expac would be nice
I've always thought curing the plague is an untapped storyline. I figure at least some Forsaken would be seeking a cure for themselves, and some humans would be seeking to cure their loved ones. It would make sense to have an undead Alliance offshoot to reflect this; maybe call them the Redeemed or something like that.
a cure against undeadness? That dont make alot of sense to me. Please explain?
@@desireekallenberg3235The whole concept of the undead being fully aware, with clear memories of their past lives, and politically organized into the Forsaken doesn't make sense either. They should be mindless killing machines, unable to reason. As to curing it, if it's spread by plague, then a storyline that develops a life restoring antidote to that plague is plausible. Also there could be an angle using priests and paladins using the power of the Light to restore life. Think of how many times our toons are rezzed by those classes, or simply by ghost running. 'Curing" undeadness really isn't that far fetched.
I could certainly see a weird Turalyon + Scarlet Crusade in faction war.
I was beginning to think Blizzard actually forgot they had Blood Elves as a playable race that have had no major part in the game since Burning Crusade.
It blows my mind that after all the buildup of her character, Lilian Voss is still displayed as second fiddle to a retextured human who just showed up.
This is ALL I want in this game. Lordaeron.
I wish that Annie Lansing and Gunther Arcanus got to be a part of the Desolate Council.
I also wish that we could see Alonsus Faol and Darnell as some sort of personal bodyguards, advisors or secondary generals as well as Annie Lansing and Gunther Arcanus since they aren't part of the Desolate Council.
No mention of the coolest kingdom, Alterac 😢
Listening to the description of how a new story could pan for new forsaken players. Makes me wish they overhauled all the races starting zone stories. Don't get me wrong I love Exile's Reach but I don't know. It'd be nice to see an update.
Really hope they add scarlet crusade content in the future. I've really been wanting to get the new updated scarlet crusade tabard, it would be a nice achievement or reward from mythics or a cool questline
Go to Algalon, activate the Engine of Re-Origination. Warcraft Re-Imagined.
Its still going to take eons to regrow everything after its been glassed
I might be mistaken, however, I don't thnk there is any way to create more forsaken is there.
Stromgarde and Dark Shore need to be Epic Battlegrounds. I mean, we're still running Wintergrasp...
Can....can we do something about the GIANT SWORD in the planet? I mean, that can't be healthy for the atmosphere, and the world, let alone Azeroth herself. It's like they've forgotten about it, like the did the Vindicator.
Damn... "Back Home" would be a neat Name for the next Expansion. It kinda hits different ngl.
Do you see a possibility that the Alliance will have a council like the horde, where Turalyon and Anduin will have more or less equal power? I could see that. Anduin could retain the title of King of Stormwind but it would be more like the position in the Alliance that Genn holds now. If Turalyon retains control of the Alliance united armed forces, he's essentially more powerful. I do not think that there will be a power struggle. I think that when Anduin returns, he will not want to be commander of the Alliance. It might be kind of like what Thrall did back in the day. I could see him focusing more on his priesthood and social projects and leaving the military to Turalyon.
I mean there's a heavy presence in Gilneas at this point from a lot of side stuff, like BFA's voyage table, the Gilneas heritage quest and stuff. It's just sorta on the sidelines which is annoying
I often wondered why Blizz never took advantage of with the Scourge fractioning, that there weren't more customizations given to the Forsaken like looking more like a ghoul, a geist, a san'layan, or even a mini abomination. It would fit with the Helm of Domination out of the picture, some Scourge regaining free will and going to the group who'd be more understanding of their situation. We've had undead trolls since forever so why not have them as playable since there is that undead look for elves.
14:40 i never realized abominations have some major cake on offer
0:35 what shoulder set is that on the right?
Paladin T14 (MoP)
All of this is so much more interesting than all that void stuff.
It'd would be cool if we had a suramar type senerio where we go into strat and slowly cleanse it.
When they rebuild gilneas, are they going to give the new updated worgen a new starting experience? And you can choose cata starting experience if you choose so?
They should
IF and only IF, it is a scarlet arc, I would come back to wow.
god, any lore regarding tirisfal, lordaeron, or the scarlets has always been my favorite since the beginning of wow. I would LOVE to see it all blown up in modern times. PLEASE BLIZZARD
I would love for there to be more focus on Lordaeron and the leading powers there, the Forsaken and Blood Elves.
The Desolate council needs to step into character and show just what each member can do, even more so than during the cleansing of the Ruins of Lordaeron. Belmont would stand to gain the most tbh, with Calia the fallen princess, Faranell the former medic extraordinaire, Velonara the Dark Ranger and Lillian Voss being Voss, he doesn't stand out much with a marked lack of backstory.
The Blood elves have long suffered from lack of presence in Lordaeron, yes there was a bunch of advisors suddenly popping up, but they did very little outside of that. Plenty of presence in Outland and Northrend, but not in the lands they originally settled, so for them to step up and claim more territory would be awesome. Dragging in the Nithgborne would be an interesting idea, since their homeland iss so markedly different from the Plaguelands and Tirisfal.
20:46 It's Thaurissan, Thassarian is a completely different guy
Imagine the Scarlet Onslaught sails from Northrend and takes Gilneas and we have a raid or another mega dungeon retaking Gilneas.
I think it would be interesting to see patch by patch political developments along with zone revamps especially in the Eastern Kingdoms. Imagine a reworked Arie Peak and Blackrock Mountain where the zones are then based on the respective factions establishing a hold on there Kingdoms. The forsaken creating a 'new Lordaeron' like you mentioned and i think it would set the lore up nicely for the factions of Azeroth to be fully established before we inevitably take on the Void.
might be a good chance to fix the burning crusade areas and make the map whole so there is no loading screen between plaguelands and the blood elf zone
Bellular when the Scarlet Crusade is packing: 😳
Except there is a quest you can do with Genn where you actually sign a treaty with the new council where they promised to help Genn take back his kingdom.
The forsaken forces were not the real reason gilneas was unable to be taken; the alliance could have taken it back eventually but the plague was the actual issue
Friendly reminder Trisfal is actually "Tyr's Fall".
There will be a return shortly.
Same with the wrapping up of the emerald dream and the new seed of Darnassus
I would love to see an old school style Scarlet Monastery Raid
With the current peace between the horde & the alliance I wonder if it's likely for the forsaken to offer the Gilnean help in reclaiming their land for the atrocities Sylvanas commited, maybe even team up with the paladin orders that aren't extreme to help fully reclaim the plaguelands. I know the Argent Dawn at least been working with forsaken (at least a argent dawn forskane npc) since vanilla so I could see a situation where any undead of sound mind being okay (except in the minds of the various scalets if they enter the picture, which would either put them as global enemies or just enemies of the forsaken)
I could just see the forsaken being instrumental in showing their new place in the world by helping both the humans and worgens(gilnean) dealing with both feral worgens and scourge forces.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the son of Garithos coming out of the shadows at some point to atone for his father's sins or something like that
i have a feeling that S3 will have SM as a M+ Dungeon, it would definitely explain why the dungeon got a visual makeover in the PTR.
The fact that they added dragon riding to the old continent and the whole Naxxramas transmog, probably means that there won't be a world revamp any time soon.
That revamp is going to take a very long time my guy
I hope the forsaken heritage armor links to this in its quest
12:57 Really? It’s been over 20 years. That’s a very resilient city and a very determined fire.
Blood elves have any army left? They were dying left and right, and those who didn't turned blue and turned on their own. Baffling to hear it.
I'd love a tried and true Lordaeron expansion. But I want a bigger scope. I want it to be 1-80 content. Not just 70-80.
Idea/Fan theory I always had in mind:
I remember mentioning that the Scarlets claimed that they have one of Calia’s children in their possession. Wouldn’t it be a cool idea if this was all a rouse and the current leader of the Scarlets turned out to be a Perenolde?
The Alliance not re-taking Lordaeron is the biggest travesty in the canon. The fact that alliance players are sent on a SL quest to help the council clear the plague in UC is a slap in the face. Bring on the Scarlet Onslaught. May they cleanse the land of undeath for good and all, which the weakling Anduin couldn't bring himself to do. Burn them all and salt the ashes--just as the mongrels did Teldrassil. No forgiveness, no mercy. If Blizzard actually does an Army of the Light-as-villain expansion, I hope they let us choose sides.
The problem stands. Whom are they populate this new Lordaeron with? Most of it's citizens are now Forsaken. Those who fled to Hillsbrad got rounded up later in Cataclysm or accepted Worgen curse in order to escape undeath.
Most of Lordaeron refugees lived in Southshore and Theramore which both got destroyed. Those who tried to return to Western Plaguelands also fell under Forsaken sword either during Battle for Andorhal or during guerrila warfare on the surrounding farms.
Stormwind doesn't have men to spare as they still have Westfall and Duskwood to restore. Unless Blizzard shits out magical numbers out of thin air that can rival Forsaken numbers then I do not know what else can restore Lordaeron.
Average Sin'dorei & Shal'dorei: What do you mean I can't mana nuke the alliance?
Average Sin'dorei & Shal'dorei: I can at least Mana Tap everything alive?
Average Sin'dorei & Shal'dorei: Xenedar? can i nuke it?