ORVIS - Fly Fishing Lessons - Setting The Hook And Fighting Fish
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Peter Kutzer of the ORVIS Fly Fishing School in Manchester Vermont is back to help you set the hook and fight your first fish. Peter shows you the differences between fishing for trout and other small fish and when you're stripping a fly for saltwater species or freshwater big game.
The way you set the hook makes a huge difference in your success rate, so knowing the correct motion for a given situation is important. Many a flats angler has been ridiculed by his guide for losing a fish to a "trout set."
Next, he moves on to fish-fighting technique. Although the classic fly-fishing pose involves the rod tip held high above the angler's head, this is actually an inefficient use of the fly rod's power. Instead of fighting a fish off the tip of the rod, you want to bend the butt section. Phil Monahan joins Pete to use the scale on a BogaGrip to demonstrate how much more force you can generate by fighting "off the butt section."
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“You might send it into the next county” 😂😭 too funny, love the videos guy!
I actually did this spinner fishing once. I was at Meadow Lake in Idaho. Just got stocked a day or two before. I knew I was gonna get a bite, so I was waiting while reeling in. Think I was actually using a fly, too. I felt a bite and set the hook. Hard. Went from horizontal to vertical in fractions of a second. This little four inch rainbow came out of the water and had to hit 30 or 40 feet before bouncing off the tree behind me. Whole family saw it, and I was young enough I didn't need a license. Needless to say, I did not live that down for a long time
what a legend most fishermen with any kind of rod need to learn the basics of setting a hook, if its not a freakin 50 lb tune u dont need that much momentum and leverage
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This guy has the smoothest voice on youtube
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Like Bob Ross had an amazing midlife crisis and turned to fly fishing.
I remembered your side pressure tip and landed the biggest trout of my life. Thank you!
Thanks. Finally getting into fly fishing after 12 years of having my rod ,haven't touched it due to sentimental reasons but I figured its about time that those reasons get it out on the water
Rod position depends on tippet strength. I agree with you when fighting fish with heavy tippet but say five pound pound trout with 5 or 6 x you need to use the soft part of the rod and keep the butt 90 degrees to to fish.
Absolutely, well stated!
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Thank you! I am new to the sport and advice like this just gives me a real boost.
I've just picked up my first fly kit. Your videos have been really helpful. Thanks.
I'm probably missing something but I thought the purpose of using the flexible tip portion of the rod was to absorb the force from the fish's fighting so as to not exceed the tensile strength of the line? For instance, if you are generating 1-2 lbs of force using the rod tip and the fish jerks generating another 5 or so lbs, your 6-8 lb line will probably be fine because some of that force will be absorbed by the rod tip bending more and transmitting that bend down the rod, or no?
Such a great video! As a beginner, there are all these videos showing casting & landing... but mysteriously almost nothing about the actual fighting of the fish. In hindsight it seems self-explanatory, but hookset to landing was just a black hole of zero knowledge prior to this video. Thanks!
Thos whole orvis series is really good. I went to see a casting instructor and o watch these videos to keep the lessons fresh in my mind. They are bang on. Thumbs up
Thanks for the video. This one is great. I think alot of people need to learn to set the hook.
Excellent video Peter. Super informative and helpful for me since I am a beginner. Thanks for sharing!
Excellent .. Love to hear of ANYONE picking up a fly rod.. Trust me , you'll be a pro in no time and you'll never look back.. Good luck friend and tight lines..
I love this era of videos
This was a great tip...especially the last part on rod angle to fight the fish with the butt of the rod as opposed to the tip by lowering the rod. This will minimize rod breakage. Thanks
Great instruction! Thank you for making this.
Great video! Thanks for the info!!
wow good information i did not know that pressure tension increase tip, by lowering the rod "Down and Dirty." i was always told to keep the tip of the rod up. thank you for the tip and next time im on the river ill play around with that advice.
Excellent video. Thanks!
Thank you..im still pretty new to it..im lookin foward to fly fishin more this year
Great instruction - thanks for the video!
Very helpful info especially about the big game techniques. I have been bass fishing with spinning and baitcasting tackle for years and am just recently getting into fly fishing for bass. This video.helped answer some questions thanks
Great tips!
wish i had this kind of support when i started.. great job
Great video
Thanks for all you guys do.
Awesome. Im new to fishing. Ive lost so many fish because of not being able to strike properly. Many thanks from the UK 👍🍺
Awesome video, getting into fly fishing and this was helpful
subscribed, always wanted tot start fishing but never had the opportunity. Really liking fly fishing!
Fantastic! very well done.
Thank you been watching a lot of your videos
Thanks I fly fished as a kid, just got me another one, 15 ish years later, going to go after some stump knockers and bass soon.
Awesome video, this helps a lot especially for a new fly fisherman!!
Cool video i will use this next time i go out
Awesome tips!!! I will use them next I'm out fly fishing. Thank you for the video. Hope to see many more like it
Great video! Much needed info as I am going to be fishing for trout here at Bennet Springs, MO soon. I'm a beginner and I've only caught small Bluegill fly fishing.
I got two important point for me, Thanks a lot Peter..
Very well explained, thank you !
Great video, thanks!
As a fly fishing rookie, my biggest question is where to put my finger when setting the hook. Just clamp my right index finger onto the line, give the rod a trout lift, then work the fish side-to-side and keep the stress in the rod butt?
What a fantastic lesson!. Thank you so much!
This is a great video. Thanks.
Really good information thank you
verry helpful, thanks for another great video
Hermoso video , estoy aprendiendo mirando , muy bueno
im just starting in fly fishing and i hope this will help
Thank you so much! Subscribed.
amazing and simple
Lapatassa
You are vary correct
That is the propore way but if your fishing larger trout buy stronger leader and tippit and then your set
Excellent display by Peter, so many people out there I wish could watch this. Just hated to watch idiots fight fish with the rodtip and then, after breaking, use their warranty over and, probably, over again....
Great vid.
I rolled my eyes, then realized there are beginners out there that have to learn this stuff. Great instructional video fellas..
Thank you for some great videos :)
Side pressure is important but don't forget about rod tip up when the fish is diving for cover. Nice vid overall. Free internet tips are great. Most importantly..patience, time devoted, get your nymphs deep, and try new techniques. You'll catch fish..and serenity
Just lost two bass today because I keep thinking of that trout set or conventional bass set. I try not to but it's in my subconscious so it's hard to break the habit.
Nice vid!
Great video! What about when there is a current?
thank you
nice video
Nice
Now I was just wondering, since you apply more pressure when fighting with the butt of the rod, will that break your line if you are using light tackle and are fighting a decent fish? In this case, does that mean if you are using light leaders and tippet that you should fight a decent fish with the tip of the rod? Any help is appreciated, I was just wondering.
DKOutdoors this is why it's important to match your lines and tippets to your rod. Lighter tippets? Lighter rod. That's why we have different weights. If you're using 6x tippet you're getting 3lbs max and you'd be right on the edge with the pull displayed here. Obviously you should adjust your technique as well if you're going lighter than that but if you've got a good hook set, solid knots, don't be afraid to muscle a fish a little bit when you have to.
Also, if you get the fish on the reel, just make sure you have it set correctly.
Doesn’t increasing “pressure on the fish” really mean increasing pressure on the line and the knots? Doesn’t that make it more likely to snap off, lose a fly and lose a fish?
intresting and nice info, so u gotta have ur hand on the line when u have slack so the fish doesnt unhook its self correct?
No I'm no expert... but that pressure would be different in the water as well...very good demonstration. Helped a lot.
BennyCriss12 it's just to prove that when the rod is down there is more pressure so the fish will get tired faster
Hello, thats so far one of the best vids I've seen, and it doesn't only apply to fly fishing, I use the same method (going sideways) when lure fishing, it just seemed natural and I lost way less fish due to becoming unhooked compared to fighting with the tip when fighting fish like that. One thing that remains unclear to me- how do you recognize a take? Do you feel it on the rod, or do you observe the fly line like some lure fisherman when jigging with high-vis braid? (mostly interested in fishing a sinking or moderate lines) Thank you very much :)
11 years ago still relevant today.
Useful video :~)
thx for the tips I've done that same movement in the past but once or twice a bass has pulled my fly line all the way and now all I had left is the backing line to use and when I got to that I started to fight back like basic fishing like for catfish I still got him but should I do that or should I just let him keep pulling the line then pull back when he relaxes next time I go fishing.
great video, and I did the same thing to the first and only tarpon I've ever hooked. One question, do you have a video that might show different flies and if they're good for different fish. New to fly fishing.
Your awesome I subscribed :P
When the fish bites and starts pulling, whether you use trout or strip setting, the line will keeping reeling out.... Guy here says to not fight it and wait for the line to stop automatically... isn’t the spool going to run out of line or if you hold the line it will cut your fingers from the fish pulling and the line going between your fingers and rod?
pull the fly line out, it can pull out on its own but your drag has to be waaaay down.....so pulling it out will be the best, as you learn to cast out you'll know how much to pull out for different distances.
Does the drag system on a reel kick in when the fish takes line?
I came to find this video because I sent a few little ones flying behind me today 😂
If I hold the rod to the side how do I avoid slack line when the fish turns to swim in the opposite direction?
Ok so I just got my first fly fish rod and I have two primary questions if someone can please help
1) The line is constantly in free spool so it gets dragged without resistance. If there is a fish on it how do you fight it since they can just take all the line? I see the videos show theres a locking mechanism but I havent figured out how to do that.
2) My reel lever is on the left side and im right handed...how do I switch it? Any advice?
Would appreciate any help
I just started fly fishing too, but I might be able to help a little. 1. Try to see if there is any drag knob on it at all. It will probably be on the opposite side of the reel knob. Also, if you are coming from regular fishing, there is obviously no cast so pulling out line with the drag set is ok. 2. I recommend that you have the retrieve knob on the opposite side of the hand you cast with. That means if you cast with your right, then put it on the left. This is the best way since you have the same hand on the rod at all times and the same one on the line/reel knob. This is good for fly fishing since you probably cast more frequently than normal fishing
Will the fly not give you any type of rope burn/fly line burn while youre holding the line as the fish takes off? Im used to tuna fishing where the reels start screaming when theres a big fish on and taking line
When getting ready to cast,how much line do you pull out for the fly to take out or does the fly pull line from the reel it self?
When you are fighting the fish and drags to left or right, why dont the line go of the reel? Sorry im am new to the sport. Probly a stupid question
Does the same technique on fish fighting apply to standard rod and reels?
I suppose I simply use the trout set for grayling?
Interesting 🤔 I was taught to avoid setting the hook straight up because the way the hook is angled and you’re not putting so much pressure on the fish. I guess you could set the hook straight up but then switch to the side ?
My reel does not spin to let line out it can only reel in. It is a start set reel so it’s not very expensive or complex. Am I doing something wrong or can my reel just not do that?
Sometimes when Im watching fly fishing videos, the fisherman will fight the fish by stripping only, they dont use the reel at all. Other times they will reel up all the slack and fight the fish with the reel. How do you know when to fight using only stripping or reel up the slack fast and use the reel?
+jacob lahr I'm no expert but I think sometimes when you have a big fish you'r more confortable fighting it with the reel because then you can walk around without snagging your line. But on the other hand if the fish is coming towards you very quickly you might need to stripp in the line very fast in order to keep the tension on the fish.
you strip for smaller fish and reel for bigger ones. it is usually pretty easy to tell which you need to do in which situation by just feeling how strong the fish is
Hey I trying to learn fly fishing why do you have that line lose and dripping down? When your seeking the hook
I was dying with the second and third setting of the hook
Thanks Peter, now I know why I lost that giant stripper a few weeks ago. Lol.
Trout aren't largemouth. Very tender mouths compared to them. Crappie fishing hookset is a good way to describe them?
What kind of hook set should I use on a grass carp
A big one
Phill reminded me of king of the hill instantly 💀
why do you have that loop of line hanging off your reel?
In my 20 + years of trout guiding experience. I teach the complete opposite of this video.
Once you have a fish on keep the tip high (statue of liberty high) let the bend of the rod absorb ALL of the pressure of the fighting fish.
Fish are lost because once the tip is dropped and pointed at the fish you’re relying on nothing but the strength of your knot and with a big fish that’s nothing….
A pound isn’t a unit of pressure, Pete Kutzer.
What are the best flys for bluegill?
Dude, everything. Foam ants and beetles, attractor dry flies, poppers...
anything with a smallish sized hook
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i dont kno this is a very hard sport and without someone here telling me if im doing it right i dont kno this is just pissing me off do you have any ideas off how i can learn?
Don’t Catapult The Poor Baby Trout😅
that is slack my good friend! if you don't already know by now!
i always got taught to keep my rod tip high when fighting fish. oh well....
you won't do that much fishing light tippets for trout in spring creeks and tailwaters. Not a good tip for beginners because the low rod points the rod tip right at the fish, fish takes off, angler fails to give line, fish breaks off. In the East using 5-7X is common, particularly during late summer and autumn.