Unbelievable Deals: Electric Vehicles Go Under the Hammer at Car Auction
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First owners. Fools, money, parted🙃
They are ex lease cars. The leasing companies know the business they're in, and they tend to move 2 or 3 year old cars on, so they can refresh their stock.
Baz. I Own an EV. Have off. Street parking. &. Three phase , So it cost me £ o 7 pence a Khw .to. Charge over night giving me 170 miles. For £ 3.20 , you. Do the. Maths. @ £ 7.00. A. Gallon for. Ice cars , who’s the fool mug
Blimey who ever bought these new lost a load of money
Yes, people with pots of money and few brain cells🙃
They were probably all on lease.
Nobody *bought* them. They are ex *lease* cars. The leasing companies won't pay anything like the list price when they take 1000 cars at once. And once the leases end, they send them to auctions.
Fleet cars, real people don’t buy them..
Thanks for the heads-up on the charge ports! A mine field I didn't know about.
Thanks Tim 👍 most ICE car dealers have no idea either !
From what I have seen, these prices are hardly the cheapest. For old tech, slow charging, they are what you might expect. All of these older tech EVs are brilliant as cheap runabout / second cars. Buying an EV at £6k and saving £1,500/yr in petrol makes good financial sense.
Absolute bargains.
However, nobody considers repair costs. Just like mobile phones, you might have a bargain until it needs fixing.
On the whole there's a lot less to go wrong on these.
You can rag the socks off em and it wont do any damage unlike blowing the head gasket on a petrol or diesel.
No turbo to go wrong, clutch to burn out, engine to run dry of oil or timing belt to snap (highly unlikely with such an age car with the belt but you never know)
Plus these will all have warranties on their batteries because of their age.
A typical EV has around 25 to 30 moving parts, so repair/replacement costs are usually minimal. A typical ICE car has thousands of moving parts...with timing and fan belts, gaskets etc which need replacement. A Tesla has *no* fixed servicing requirements......
...or insurance costs...or if they can charge at home...or their ludicrous depreciation...or their poor reliability...
Poor reliability I'm on 160k gets serviced every 2 yrs and it's 10 yrs old only thing I've replaced is tyres brakes pads wheel bearing 😉@@journeyintococo6996
@@rickyjulian496Just limit your travel to 50 miles away. 2 pints of semi skimmed while you're at it.
I had one of those Vauxhall eCombi carriers from my dealership when my Ioniq was in for air con warranty work. Can I say it’s the most uneconomical EV I know! 50kw battery but motorway Dunfermline to Kinross, Kinross to Perth and return then back to Dunfermline and drained the battery from full to 20%. My 38kw Ioniq would likely be on 70% (around 120 miles left). I know there’s a huge drag coefficient difference but ong, Vauxhall could do better!
Why are people selling there ev's don't they last for years and years and cost nothing to run no maintenance don't have to even look after them and they will be better than a lce car
These are ex lease cars , drivers will be in new leased cars or opted to buy 🤔
They don't own them in the first place...
Why do people sell second hand ICE cars, after only a couple of years, if they are so amazingly brilliantly wonderful, and the best things in the entire universe?
Is my question more pathetic, than yours, or they are pretty much in the same stupid ballpark?
I reckon we are both being jerks and they are the same level of pathetic.
@robinhood4640 I don't know I can fix a ice car myself down to slipper it down to the ground and put it back again so I can keep it going for ever
@@gregchapman6056 I know how to feed some hay to a horse and shovel shit, but it didn't stop me from buying a car.
I drive a 1998 Citroen ZX, which is the limit in the technology for me to strip down entirely and rebuild. Mark 2 escorts, Fiat 132s and Austin minis and allegros were the cars i learned on.
There are a hell of a lot of people who only keep cars a few years, irrespective of make, model or fuel type.
I think once we get to understand the differences better, and iron out the creases, we will realise that EVs are generally better than ICE.
Brilliant - very educational thank you Jonathan 👍 getting closer for me to be able to afford one of these. 💴💵💶
Can you afford Insurance though?
That helped fill in a wet and windy afternoon! Thank you for an enjoyable video.
Thanks Brian, its been wall to wall sunshine today in Orkney ' just sayin' 🤣😎👍
Interesting insight to EV life..thanks. 👍🏻
Thanks for watching and your comments 🙂
Always learn something from you JP. Thank you. 🙏🏻
Great insight into current EV market thankyou
Thanks Richard 👍
Thanks for bring this to our screens Jonathan.
Thanks Rob 👍
The red 22 leaf sold at 12 200 buyer fee included . It was a techna model , it's now available @ 16, 750 on auto trader
Great 👍 so you can see what dealers 'make' 👍
@@JonathanPorterfieldused to go BCA every year or 2 to buy but since COVID sadly the private vehicle buyer has been dropped from auctions and cinch and other companies have the high ground at the auction, so since then I have to pay on average the 20% profit/ difference for a grade 1 or 2 low miler with manufacturers warranty still running.
Holy moly!! Don't they depreciate!
CHAdeMo chargers are starting to get hard to find, although a few new ones are still being installed; however for under £1,000, you can now get a CHAdeMo to CCS2 adapter, and the prices ARE dropping, expect it to be £500 ish by next year.
Chademo are easy to find in UK. They are everywhere. In fact I am trying to think of a charger location, except tesla, that hasn't got them. But outside of the UK the story is different. It would be pointless to but one of those in the UK at the moment even at £500.
@@wonderingworld119 There are lots, but many are single charger locations; very few with more than 2; and there are big gaps between locations with 2 or more; especially if you are in an older car with sub 100 mile range.
The Cotswolds only has 2 multi-charger locations right now; one at the northern end of the A417; and one off the A40 at Brize Norton - both the rare NEW installs.
There are no multi-charger locations at the M25 Motorway services after Brize Norton, all the way to Gatwick, and only a single charger between just south of Manchester and Birmingham, heading south (loads going north).
I have had a lot of issues with single charger locations; from being stuck for over an hour while an old Leaf charged to 100%; to having the charger decide it only wanted to charge at 8 KW.
I dont live in the Cotswolds, but if I want to get to London, it is the only viable safe route for a sub 100 mile EV with CHAdeMO; and I had HUGE issues when both the A417 AND A419 were closed entirely over Easter, and I needed to get to Gatwick.
I wouldn't use a DC charging adaptor that has come direct from China. Not sure if these will be legal without full UK lab tests. Potentially dangerous.
@@decimal1815 A couple of large UK EV specialists; who deal in chargers, cables etc; are selling these; I have also watched videos where the adapters are taken apart and the components/build examined, as a trained industrial electrician, it looks OK to me.
China can and does produce some good quality products; it is just they have no regulations against crap products.
Most of the Teslas, and iPhones being sold in Europe, were made in China.
Most points barring Ionity and Tesla have them and they’re still going in new. It is normal though that if there is a set of 6 units only 2 will have a 2nd cable for Chademo. Just more cars using CCS and given they have the “so debilitating range and battery life” it’s unusual to find more than 2 leafs out and about charging at the same station at the same time.
These will be 2 to 3 year old ex-Lease EV, having lost a ton of money the lease companies try to get some money back, and do not succeed because owning an EV is like owning an iceberg in the Indian Ocean...
I overheard the service adviser explaining the £250 service charge to a couple in their 80s - in front of me in the queue to pay. For a new-ish MG EV. A car with no radiator, no exhaust, no oil/air filters etc. You could tell the shame in his voice. The EV dream is based on lies, deceit and frankly outright fraud. My petrol Subaru - I service this myself for under £100.
Go to a HEVRA garage and pay a fraction for a 'health check' of any ev . Main dealers will always 'milk customers' as much as they can.
The only exception is Tesla who do not have a service schedule for their EVs.
Personally i see every MOT on my evs as the service , once a year !
I never use main dealers , and before you say it , no warranty is voided by not using a main dealer.
Look up 'block exemption' on google re car services and manufacturers warranty.
@@JonathanPorterfield thanks - HEVRA is part of the solution to this. Just felt sorry for the elderly couple being fleeced in front of my eyes. Not good for the industry.
@@robertsmuggles6871 i agree 👍 💯
Same as with most things these days, you have to shop around for better prices & do some research, people can get things done cheaper if they look - some can't be bothered & some are clueless, that's why main dealer relies on people like that - you could have had a chat with that elderly couple & informed them of a cheaper alternative for next year 😉
What this highlights is that when my Id4 PCP deal comes to an end, and my car is worth a lot less than the final payment, I cant afford to replace it with another EV. Maybe a hybrid will hold its value better. Thinking I was doing the right thing has cost me a fortune!
If you like your ID4 , return it and eco cars can see if it pops up at auction , and we can buy at trade value for you 😉
Thanks Jonathan for this. Really interesting watch
Thanks Paul 👍
Not forgetting preregistered Leafs were no mileage... we're at £12,800 from a Nissan dealership. OK they are sold now.... but these kind of deals will come around again, just keep looking for them.
3600 plus vat for env200 great. Wish i had organised you to bid on that fir me. Thanks for sharing , looks like leafs are yesterdays elecric car, my leaf 30 is down to 20kwh capacity at 125000 miles . Has been good but time for upgrade if i ever get time. That env would been perfect
Can you find me one?
Theirs one on shorham , a 21 plate , want to take a look?
79 hundred, is this America or something ?
Just discovered these auction videos, excellent! Thanks Jonathan! Any Model 3 Performances ever?
@rajanpatel65 yes , good stock of M3P at auction
There are a load going through Aston Barclay in Westbury next week. One went on Tuesday for 24,500.
Wasn’t it the early 24kw Visias that had no Chademo port, and not the 40?
Jonathan always interesting to see price of EV market at Auction I think Nov December good time to buy as not to much money about keep up the good vids of the ev market and online Auction Thankyou
Thanks Pat , yes now/dec always a good time to buy at auction too.
Thanks for your comments and watching, best regards Jp 😀
Best avoid the ones with so called rapid charge as if this was used regularly it will have prematurely shortened the battery life.
not as short as the brain lifespan of anyone who buys a ev
You can generally check battery health if you're allowed access to the keys.
I tend to think you can guesstimate if it's been rapid charged much by looking at mileage and age.
A healthy car with 250 mile range will travel about 150 miles a day Monday to Friday keeping it within the 20-80% bracket.
That would make a 1 year old car have 39,000 on the clock with just a home charger.
Also if it has a type 2 to 2 cable that looks well used. Anything above that has probably had rapid charges.
Let's not forget lfp batteries that don't mind so much being rapid charged and charged to 100%.
They're on a lot of the 2022 and beyond models.
Absolute nonsense.
@@Brian-om2hh Frequent use of faster rapid charging has been shown to increase the rate of battery degradation. A study testing two Nissan Leafs showed that exclusive DC rapid charging increased the rate of degradation by 16% when compared to AC fast charging.
@@Brian-om2hhwait and see the price of a new battery 😂and if the car goes wrong can you fix it no you carnt it will cost you a fortune
Great video thank you. Are E Niros often sold at this auction?
Yes , good supply
Hardly anything made estimate. More and more people are now learning that EV's arent the answer. The trade is also wary in the second hand market as repairs are costly....
Who would buy a unsafe and trust EV from a auction not knowing it's history you got to be mad
Is that English?
If you buy a EV and drive it home
How then do you charge it up
I genuinely dont know
Do you just plug it in to a 3 pin socket
Yes, most EV's have provision for charging via a normal domestic 3 pin socket....
@@Brian-om2hh thank you , no one ever explains, you only get shown the cars charging point, what happens if you live in a block of flats or have no driveway, so suppose these EVs ain't made for 50% of the population
@@Brian-om2hh - Which is okay if you have a drive. EV manufacturers advise against charging them in a garage, due to the fire risk.
@@journeyintococo6996
I live on the 17th floor of a block of flats if put a few extension leads together it might reach the car
The very reason that prevents the likes of me even considering one. @marineboy1964
After watch JP for around a year, and looking at 100s of youtube vids, today i took the plunge and bought myself a 71 plate KIA Niro 3. With 15k on the clock. Would have liked the 4+ but the sunroof made headroom bad for me... thanx PJ
Thanks great to hear chris , glad my videos have helped
Bid for a battery
Why would you bid for a battery? Personally i'd consider a battery pack refurbishment from somewhere such as Cleveleys Electric Vehicles in Gloucestershire. They are an independent EV specialist, who offer EV repairs and servicing. Cleveleys posted a RUclips video around 3 years ago, of a battery pack refurb they carried out on a 10 year old UK owned Nissan Leaf. The work took 4 hours, and the cost was £500. The sheer amount of utter nonsense posted about EV batteries, by people who don't have a clue, is mind-blowing.....
Top video thanks
@@MrToddy31 Thanks for watching and your comments 👍
If you want a car for local driving only.
And, with the average daily UK commute being 20.8 miles, that's most people.....
@@Brian-om2hh - Most people don't have a drive, so charging at home is out of the question for them. Over 50% of first-time EV buyers wouldn't buy another one. By big motor companies are ditching their pursuit into EV's. Look it up.
Anyone with a battery lease Zoe. The lease can easily be brought out. Apparently for very little money.
Surely rapidly becoming a liability for the manufacturer as batteries near replacement, negotiate hard.
Is it really hard for the seller to get a battery SOH?
Seems pretty essential to me.
Since I think this is a post auction edit [did you do a live show this month?] what would be nice to hear from you is an end of auction reflection on the state of the market and any notable sales in the session. Or put it at the front of the video even, as a 'what to look out for'. {Pity about the clueless Neanderthals in the comments!]
Thanks pete , i will do an overview on the next video
@@JonathanPorterfield gosh, did I have a good idea?? 🤣
@@peteglass3496 you certainly did 👍👏👏😎
That ZOE NA15WAO sold for £3,050 from the figures I have collated had a battery lease buyout costing £2,000 so only £1,050 for the car
Renault sold that zoe , and they waved the lease buy out cost
If it doesn't show rapid charging then it probably doesn't have it.
Do you think can get a 2022 Model 3 RWD with HW3 Ryzen MCU and matrix headlight for under £20k in auctions?
When you say the purchaser has to apply to DVLA what exactly do you mean and why?
The seller has lost the v5 , pop to post office and apply for a new one with proof you've bought it , dvla do a few checks with last registered keeper, then you get a new v5 in your name , takes 3 to 4 weeks max and £25 dvla fee 😉
New to your channel, fantastic content btw. I'm in the market for a 2021 Tesla M3, do many come on auctions?
1st , thanks for watching, and yes LOTS of M3 choice at trade auctions , all mostly ex lease 😀 contract the office on 01856 480008 or e mail info@reflexorkney.co.uk
It's odd I see all sorts of EV's these days but not the zoe.
surely if your see a beaten up 24 plate Toyota EV (or any other EV) with only 4K miles you would wonder if the battery pack has also been beaten up. I would not touch it.
The BMS ( battery management system ) will look after the battery fine.
@@JonathanPorterfield LOL, yeah it even puts fires out...
Bargains for EV enthusiasts for the next year or so as company leases come to an end . Companies won’t lease EVs in future without the tax break imo so you could get a lot of car for little money.
This level of EV bashing is hilarious! I'm in my 10th year of driving EVs and will never go back to petrol or diesel. Really enjoying the content, Jonathon.
LEAF is great value now and still enough CHAdeMO chargers around to make it viable for a few more years. 😊
It cracks me up when you were talking about kilowatt/hour Jesus what are doing with this Chinese driven rubbish
I dont understand your statement??
Hi can you go into detail about the Zoe battery lease auction please. Does it mean you don't need to pay the the lease anymore or you have to pay extra the cancel the lease ?
Only applies to the early zoe 22kWh , and some 40kWh zoe.
All of the 50kWh zoe are battery OWNED.
@@JonathanPorterfield sorry I already know that. The question is car you now cancel the battery lease for FREE ?
@conradknightsocksknight1590 it looks that way if Renault own the zoe and they sell via auction , without the lease attached to older zoe
Word is now, as i see it , Renault cant be bothered with paperwork , so 'may well' have no financial interest in the battery, but dont quote me on this ! 😊
Shopeham charge 10 percent fee to private buyers, wtf , LMAO
Buy through eco cars from shoreham and not pay 10% of hammer value !
The public fees are 10% of the final price , but a max of £750 so a £7500 bid will be £750, as £40k car will be £750
These are the cheapest vehicle auction houses around , BCA are easily double !
Hi, do you have any ideea if there is a chance to bid for a car inside the E.U. I am looking for a Kia e-Niro, 64 kw. Thanks
Hi Daniel, im sorry , we do not have any auction house accounts outside the uk.
@@JonathanPorterfield Thanks
MG why would you buy a Chinese car at big money?
Because like your PC / laptop / mobile in your possession, they are well made ! 👍
Isn’t the Leaf + a 62 kWh battery?
Many of the earlier Leafs had much smaller capacity battery pack.... It's just the current model that has a 62kwh pack.
59 usable
Thirsty work this.
if evs were free or i was paid to have one--- i would still refuse
Each to their own 🤣
Thanks for letting us know. Anything else you want to share? Foods you don't like or places you wouldn't visit? 🤷
So you'd prefer to continue paying one of the World's highest rates of fuel duty when you fill up, using earnings you already paid tax on? That's fine, feel free.
I wouldn't give you 11p for this EV junk, all your paying for is the battery, wake up people
Why buy a car that has a 10 year lifespan?
How can that be environmentally friendly??
There are plenty of 10+ year old EV's out there. Why might an EV suddenly no longer function after 10 years?
@@Brian-om2hh The battery will not last & cost of replacing it is prohibitive once it fails..
@@leegould5306evidence please?.....the majority of first gen leafs and Zoe's are still on the road at 10 years plus. Your just quoting someone without the data to back it up
@@Brian-om2hh Exactly! The same nonsense was said about the battery in my 2008 Prius when I bought it 2nd hand in 2013. Guess what? It's 2024, the battery is 16 years old and it still works perfectly - it's tested by Toyota every year. And that's on a 16 year old hybrid car used daily with 156k on the clock. Modern EVs will be just fine.
@@leegould5306 Absolutely untrue. 21st Century science and technology disagrees with you 100%.
Wow cheap now hey
I would like to buy an EV so i can make youtube videos about all the problems i have with it and how there a money pit
Which EV have you owned or heard about, which have had lots of problems? Are you speaking from actual experience, or just taking a guess? My Kia eNiro had one minor problem at 1300 miles from new - a faulty seat belt warning. It was sorted under warranty in less than 45 minutes. The car has now covered 34k miles, with no further faults. I still have over 4 years of the original warranty left to run. And what's this "money pit" nonsense? My last service cost me £68. You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Rubbish, if course he knows what he's talking about!
He's watched at least one MacMaster video which as everyone knows, qualifies him as an industry expert!
😂
@@Brian-om2hh
@@Brian-om2hh A driving instructor i know got rid of his Tesla because of all the problems he had with it including range, tyre wear, massive depreciation, 12 volt battery going flat so he could not even get in the car, software issues etc etc, i suggest you do more research
@@Brian-om2hh Perhaps you were one of the lucky ones
In Australia, used EVs are selling at low prices. It is stupid as they last a lot longer than petrol cars and the fuel is so much cheaper.
LOL How many 20 year old EV's are still in regular use?
Can you plug it into Ayers Rock ?
lots of milk floats for sale cant give them away lol
You should be happy people are buying EV's , every ev on the road means 1 less car at your petrol station, and when less petrol/ diesel is bought the price goes down (remember covid when diesel and petrol dropped to 99p per litre) so all the ev drivers are helping ice drivers lower the cost of motoring.
I own both an ice and ev and there is no question an ev charged at home is over 50% cheaper to run than a diesel, however I will keep a diesel (berlingo van) for ,well van stuff and emergency long drives if they pop up.
Ah right. That'll be why - according to SMMT figures - sales of used EV's are around 60% up, over the same period last year.
I'm guessing you haven't driven an EV before. But that's fine. I like driving my milk floats, which were a great British invention by the way.. ❤
@@brianiswrongwait till you need to buy a battery 😂
@@brianiswrong Depends on the global oil price. Nothing to do with the amount of cars 😂
Wouldn't touch an electric car with a barge pole. New batteries cost a fortune plus they need charging most of the time and dont go far enough and getting them fixed is a joke
I have no idea what the battery in my EV costs, as it still has over 4 years of it's 8 year warranty to run. I charge my EV around every 8 to 10 days, and that does me around 230 miles. No jokes getting my EV fixed if it needed it, as both guys at my local garage are HEVRA certified to work on electric vehicles....
Rabis
ev's scamm of the centuary
Cancer boxes
More chance of LUNG cancer from fossil fueled vehicles !
You're really struggling there mind
Sitting on a tonne of toxic batteries and smothered in Electric magnetic frequency radiation.
No wonder the WEF cult in Davos ask for strictly no EVs and unvaxxed pilots. They know exactly what these devices are designed for.