The Private Dirk Bogarde - Part 1 (2001)
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- The first part of a televisual life of the film actor who died in 1999, drawing on new video footage from the archive of Bogarde's long-term partner and manager Anthony Forwood.
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The most beautiful speaking voice of his generation of actors. His narrations are treasures.
He was Cinema what Harry Stiles is to Modern Music
@Bailey2006a: - and - he had the greatest laugh.
A superb actor and wonderful writer. His private life is none of our damn business.
I couldn't agree more. Thank you.
@@elainemagson213 I could not disagree more. Millions of biographies have been written since the dawn of literature, about all kinds of people, mostly famous sometimes not, to feed the perfectly legitimate interest of the public in individual lives - in life in general, indeed (combined with great achievements in the case of famous people). Do you think that the private lives of Louis the XIVth, Picasso or Thomas Jefferson are uninteresting subjects? The argument of privacy is most often used about gay people, because, as a not-so-benign remnant of a homophobic past, gayness is OK provided it remains "private".
But you’ve watched this to find out his business…….Really?
It was a typical 20th century tragedy that he had to hide from people like you.
@@kimtopp5984 I agree it WAS none of our business when he was alive. We are fortunate, though, to find out more about him once he died. I adored him on screen and read all his books. So, very happy to see this excellent, fascinating, sweet film.
“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”― Tennessee Williams.......
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Loved the mention of my favourite Dirk Bogarde film...The Singer not the Song. The music, is mysteriously beautiful and so was,,,Dirk.
A unique man! Loved his books as well as his films !
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Me too.
Such an extraordinary actor - whether he was playing good guy or villain, butter wouldn't melt.
I recall going to the cinema in Manchester when I was 9 yrs old to see Doctor in the House...I enjoyed him enormously as an actor and found him terribly handsome and somewhat enigmatic...even at such a young age. Remained a faithful admirer of his work, especially Death in Venice, The Night Porter, Darling and The Servant. Thanks for this documentary.
Thank you for posting this video. He was such a visually beautiful yet enigmatic man.
fantastic for those of us over a certain age.
Dirk told us that if we knew how to read between the lines we would know all we needed to know
He owed nothing to the public of his private life.
agree. i hate when ppl say he should’ve been more open about his sexuality or any other aspects of his life. ppl aren’t owed anything, even from celebrities…
He didn't have to open up about his private life but a more permissive society would have allowed him to be a bit more open. He would have been able to purge any guilt he felt. Dirk, unfortunately, grew up in a time when it was literally a crime to be homosexual.
Unfortunately, it's the public that decides whether you're star or not, and if they decide you're wonderful - you're trapped. So he did owe them something, because they gave him the dazzling career, the servants, the houses, the pools, the ponies, the hired drivers, and the huge money the Americans paid him to star in a terrible movie. He was a wonderful charismatic actor, and I loved him in everything, and he was a very good writer - but a very complex man, who was trapped by the fact that at the time, he was virtually forced had to lie about big chunks of his authentic life. For all of his life.
I'm afraid I can't agree. His position gave him a voice to defend the powerless which he chose not to use. Homosexuality was decriminalised in Britain because some people spoke up and fought for their - and other people's- human rights.
@@fido652 I think he was very brave just by making the film Victim, especially in 1960. Victim went a very long way to sway public opinion that the persecution of gay men was cruel and wrong, well before the Wolfenden Report was finally published and made into law. The film definitely had some sway in the final decisions.
Can’t believe he burned all that. What a treasure trove was destroyed. Well he had the right to do it.
Can’t believe that I have something in common with Dirk Bogarde. I adored my childhood and would give anything to go back. Dirk Bogarde was such a charismatic and handsome man. Loved/love watching him in movies.
He had every effing right to burn whatever he wanted. Are you seriously thinking that he committed some kind of criminal act? Do you not have the right to burn your stuff? Is your life anyone else's business? His private life is NONE OF OUR BUSINESS.
@TheVlandsberger: Can’t you read ? I commented that he had every right to do it. - and where did I say or even imply that “he committed some kind of criminal act” ? Get help.
@@TheVeek192A film star is open to publicity, so I'm saying I disagree.
@@lilybond6485Agreed
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Perhaps calm thyself a bit, mate.
What an incredibly fascinating documentary - I like the fact that it includes discussions with his relatives which helps us understand his character. Thanks for uploading it.
Many thanks. He is the most real person without affectation he presents himself so honestly. I greatly admire his best films.
Except he never came out. Understandably initially as it was illegal to be an active homosexual and would also have been career suicide, but he could have come out later in life but didn't. Because of this I believe you have to seriously question his honesty.
@@ViN-kr3ri I agree. It is puzzling that he remained so closed in that respect and does raise at least some concerns about the accuracy of what he chose to reveal about his life. He must surely have been aware that he was widely regarded as gay. Had he come out in the 90s, I suspect he might have become truly iconic in his final years. As it is, I can’t help thinking of him as rather repressed.
@@ViN-kr3ri In my own personal opinion, he probably had to live in that fear for so long that he still didn't trust society and I for one don't blame him one iota. And in any case, do we not all have a skeleton or two in our closest?! It is up to each individual just how much of ourselves we share. I definitely wouldn't want all of my life known to all and sundry.
I think of him as a great actor, no more no less. RIP Dirk Bogarde 🙏
@@brendonmcmorrow3886 and Vi. I think it is like somebody who came from a very poor background. - they always remember their earlier years and fear they might return, in the same way somebody who knew he was "a criminal" for the first 46 years of his life, it was understandable he would carry on guarding his privacy. Though making "Victim" in 1961 - still six years before the law changed, was brave - several other actors turned the role down of Melvyn Farr. His wife was layed, as you know by Slyvia Sims, and she too, accepted the role after several other actresses turned it down. Given the hostility even AFTER the law chaanged, for many years in the 70s and as late as the 1990s - the horrible camp coedy stereotypes of the times, can you really blame hi for keeping his private life private?. I can't.
It was widely known that he was gay. He didn't really have to "come out".
Powerful piece. 🔥
What a talented yet contradictory character. An action packed life with his beloved Tony. 💞
And what a dish!! 💋
Yes, he was both handsome and charming
Very poignant betrayal of this extraordinary actor, I had watched all his films an found him so charismatic
Betrayal or do you mean PORTRAYAL ... although it could be the first since the truth about him finally came out
I was travelling abroad when this was first televised and have never seen it, despite searching; it doesn't disappoint! Thank you very much indeed for posting this and Part Two!
Parts 1 & 2 ?
@@sophiasumar8497The second part should pop up in your feed after this, as is the way of RUclips. 😊 Enjoy.
Arena together with Russell Harty..... We were so spoilt with such great arts programmes and interviewers with such flair and talent. Than you for uploading this fascinating look at Dirk Bogardes life.
Wonderful, so pleased this has been uploaded again.
Excellent documentary.
Thanks for uploading this.
I am friends with Dirk's family (brother, nieces, nephews, etc.) and they are the nicest people you could meet. A truly loving and wonderful family.
Is it possible to know whether his sister is still with us? Would be close to 100 if so.
Dirk Bogarde was excellent in every film he was ever in. This is fascinating. Thank you. Hope my name icon doesn't come up 2x. Some sort of computer glitch.
Thanks and appreciation for uploading this insightful documentary of a fascinating genius. "Death In Venice", a particular favourite for me, a beautiful portrayal of longing conveyed without words, just his eyes and stance. An impressive and memorable body of work following the "pin-up" years. You have added to my enjoyment of retired life led in a small cottage in a remote village in the Manawatu area of New Zealand, receiving gems bounced off a satellite on youtube given by the kindness of others.
Loved him in that movie!👍
Well done. Every time this is uploaded, it’s taken down. Thank you so much.
We've all paid for it to start with & viewers outside GB can only tune into more BBC work when it was still too Educate, Inform & Entertain M'Lord. We don't expect to pay for the World Service do we!
so sad that this man, who lived with the man he loved, found it necessary to burn all his private letters, papers, diaries when the end was near to hide how he was towards the end.
What a hypocrite.. He was...!!!!
@@charlottejune5997 you might call it that way. But in those days, your had no chance of a career in acting when you came out. Doing that ment it was over. And even now - there are a actors who have come out. But not many. Remember Jodie Foster... She came out when she was in her fifties and her acting career pretty much over. Everything changes and evhing stays the same.....
@@charlottejune5997 Charlotte - Mr Bogarde was born 101 years ago as I write. In pre-internet/social media days people didn't share every detail of their private lives. Certanly actors liked to remain private -can you imagine Grace Kelly having an Instagram page or Noel Coward on Twitter?. Now people share the most intimate details of their lives - and you sometimes have to wonder why.
What this generation forget, or don't fully understand, it that when he was a huge star in the UK it was illegal to be gay. You could potentially be jailed. Great actors like John Gielgud for example, was entrapped by an undercover police officer, and narrowly missed out on prison time - and this was in the 70's. Back then gay men were persecuted, blackmailed and worse. He wasn't just a regular actor - he was a huge, bankable star who was making massive money for the British studios, and pretty much followed everywhere by hysterical girls.
@@jochenstossberg5427 I know. But apart from beeing a step away from jail, not so much has changed. There are no major starts who came out of beeing gay. Jodie Foster said she was lesbian when her career was more or less over. There are many other who will never come out because then your career is over. Still. In 2023.
Arena is quite possibly one of the best shows ever. The three part series on Evelyn Waugh was my introduction and I've enjoyed the program ever since. It never disappoints.
Excellent documentary, thanks for the upload 👍
I have watched every movie here on you tube that stars Dirk Bogarde. It’s a shame he destroyed so much of the history of his life but at least some survived
Thank you so much. Have tried to view this before to no avail.
What a gem. Thank you for uploading.
He loved to embellish and so much of what is written must be taken with a pinch of salt..he truly was his mothers son.
Don't we all...
So beautiful I Hope they were happy together, such a beautiful man
Hello how are you doing?
Thank you for putting this up.
Absolutely amazing . The man was pure class and an unbelievable Actor. Where's the music from that starts at 1:35 pls?
the music at the very start is "Another Green World" by Brian Eno
Mahler: Symphony N°5 Adagietto. It's the same iconic piece from Death in Venice
Loved him, him and Kenneth More. My favourite actors of that era.
Father was also secret recon..his records are still mostly sealed. He also was very closed and his family was everything. A wonderful father
A person of depth and great talent and a brave pioneer of the freedom of his own sexuality.
Part 2 has been uploaded and should be working now
We saw A Song Without End on TV in the late '60's. We liked it!
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I absolutely loved it. I knew it off by heart as i saw it 14 times at various cinemas. It was instrumental in developing my love of serious music.I just wish I could download it. Impossible it seems. He was brilliant at the Hay-on-Wye festival in the early 90s. Extremely pleasant to each person who queued for the book signing. I said to him that I must be unique in that I'd adored Song Without End. He smiled and told me he'd heard many couples got "engaged to be married" after seeing it. He actually laughed when I replied "Yes and probably lived to regret it". A precious memory of a great evening in Hay.
it took a great intellect to play Death in Venice, a film with very little dialogue but so many classical allusions. A great actor and a remarkable film.
Such a pity there is such an emphasis on his sexuality he was a great actor a decent harmless man who lived a very private life
Why is it a pity?
A well-made documentary, aside from the slight confusion as to what is real footage and what is film excerpt, but really, this bogus sense of uncovering secrets is such a lame horse. Bogarde was magnetic as a performer, but it is his writing that I love most. I cannot think of another writer who seems to allow such access to his inner mind, and with such casual ease.
If Dirk Bogarde consigned letters, scrapbooks, his wartime diaries and other evidence of a life which was in crucial respects very different to the one he presents in his 7-volume autobiography. How does the narrator know that, if everything was burned?
Not all was burned and the accounts of friends , family and known associates differ somewhat from his.
@@ravarga4631 Of course they do. So would yours, and mine. One's siblings are the last people to give an accurate account of you! The BBC are trying to imply they have some dirt on Dirk, but they haven't. So sad that because a person protects his privacy after death some people think there must be something dirty there.
Really enjoyed he made some good films thank you
At 9:36 ... such good quality film ( Kodachrome ? ) and look at how young and handsome Dirk was ... and with this flip-flops and his hair it looks like it could have been 1966 .... instead of probably at least 22 years earlier ... right ?
Didn't bogard live in the era of treating homosexualty as a crime. Plus he usually played the handsome ladies man. This image had to be maintained for the fans. I personally felt he was a very good actor, always appeared slightly disdainful and effeminate but very handsome.
His private life was his business and no one else's thats why its called a private life it's that simple,
When he was alive yes . I think he was a great actor and I am happy to learn about his life . I like him .
A beautifully made film: Arena at its best.
Think Glynis Johns was so beautiful and a gifted actress
Dirk Bogarde was a fabulous actor and writer and a complex and private man.
We can not understand his complexity and we should respect his privacy. We are all actors with different public and private selves
No matter what or who we are we have a right to our private life,unfortunately it's hard for people of fame it's hard with paparazzi 24hrs a day clicking those cameras even when you think your on a break,but been a person of the lime light eyes watch you were ever you go,and pry into your private like for a few coolers more,love you Derek and your acting ,r,I,p,at least your at peace now ,God bless you amen,🌹🌈😘💖💏
He was an excellent actor.
Glynis Johns, Forwood's wife for six years, is still alive. (July '23) She was born in the year 1923.
Wonderful actress. I share the same birthday!
I met her a few times, lovely woman, GlynisJohns.
Can’t you see Glynis in Gareth Forwood?!?
Ms. Johns died last month, January at age 100.
Always thought dirk was very handsome and wonderful actor.
Beautiful eyes and voice.
Death in Venice is/was my favorite movie.❤
What a gorgeous cottage...i lived in sussex as a child
'A Postillion struck by lightening' , my favourite autobiographies. Of ten re-read to thi day.
Brilliant Bogarde!
I can understand why he done it, but it’s such a shame her burnt his diaries and records of his life.
Nobody wants strangers picking over your intimate secrets when you're dead and can't argue your case.
I really liked him as an actor but could never take to him personally…I always felt there was something cruel and dark about him…I think his brother felt the same…..He was an actor and that was how he lived his life ….He always seemed so very cold to me……
True !!!!!
That comes across in his autobiographies. I rather empathise with that sense that he lost touch with his real self somewhere along the way and was looking for it in his acting and writing.
it was probably traumatic growing up in a homophobic country, you even could go to prision. He probably shut off all his emotions, became cold to protect himself
Love and miss Dirk Bogarde
have never seen this. had no idea that Dirk Bogarde had lived in Bishopbriggs. My father also went to Allan Glen's. He was only a few months older than Dirk so they must have been contemporaries.
@stablefairy9437: I was at Allan Glen’s too, in the late 70s. Amazingly, Bogarde was never mentioned as one of our distinguished alumni. Were they ashamed of him? The one we kept getting dinned into us was whoever it was designed the QE2. Another one was my uncle, Sir Lindsay Bryson, once he’d been made Admiral of the Fleet. But no Dirk!
I don’t agree that his 7 volumes of autobiography (which I loved) hide aspects of his life; nor do I believe he “hid” behind his books. That is nonsense. It was obvious from the beginning that he and Forwood had a relationship post-war, which was genuine and lasting. Everything in Part I is in his books, and of course there is far more in those written works than there can be in a documentary. Seems as though it is a type of click-bait to state at the beginning that his autobiography is not quite true. It is very true. Also, Bogarde owed nothing to anyone with regard to his personal life, as someone else has stated in these comments. He was amazingly open in his writing, when one compares it with the nonsense churned put by some of today’s celebrities.
What is the music to this? I’ve never heard it before so beautiful
Mahler, the parts they used in the Death in Venice film.
Dirks sister dismisses his romance with French Actress Capucine with a terribly flippant almost mean “ so he said’. According to Gareth Forwood in a twenty minute film called Legends,Dirk Bogarde” Dirk was very much in love with (Capucine “ so was I but Dirk stood a much better chance than I did”. “ In the end I think that Dirk did propose to her and had she said yes,they probably would have gone on and had children. I believe the fact Dirk had no children became a source of profound sadness in his life”. According to Dirks own autobiography Capucine Tony Forwood, and Dirks own father were decorating the tree Christmas Eve when old friend Director Basil Dearden sent the script for Victim 1961. Dirk was the only actor in Great Britain brave enough and mentally strong enough to take on the role of Barrister Melville Farr!!!!
Thank you...I didn't know about Capucine before.
His sister came over very snobbish if he said he loved Capucine who is she to rubbish it
Sorry I forgot one thing. I would argue that no man would leave a woman as heartbreakingly beautiful and lovely as Glynis Johns unless there was more to the relationship between Tony Forwood and Dirk than Agent/ Manager and Actor /client. Remember this was 1948 being a gay man in Great Britain was illegal. Had Dirk and Tony came out as a couple/ partners they both could have been arrested and Dirks incredible career in Films would have ended before it really started!!!
No wonder he turned out gay with that upbringing. His uncle insisting on watching him in the bath, his mother an alcoholic etc. Good grief the poor guy. I'm glad he found happiness with his long term partner. The school bullying itself can break a person (Jeremy Clarkson one day it will come out as public information why you got expelled from Repton Public School you made many schoolboys lives a misery). I still rate They Who Dare as a great war film. RIP Mr Bogarde.
He was ok unless he was doing a Cockney accent, that is one of the reasons Micheal Cain took up acting
Fine actor, fine man.
Beautiful...excellent actor.
Does anyone know the name of that beautiful, poignant piece of music? It is so evocative, sort of ‘a la recherche du temps perdu’ set to music. I respect Dirk’s privacy as he wished, bless his dear, gentle heart.
Mahler's 5th symphony.
@@andrewpowell3932 Oh my goodness that was quick Andrew. Thank you so much, it is profoundly poignant. You are very kind.
Pleased to be of help. It can be irritating not to be able to identify a piece of music in a film. It also appears in part 2. The other music is also by Mahler - from symphony no. 3 I think if my memory serves me correctly. Both pieces of music , but particularly the extract from no 5 are important elements of the film Death in Venice.
Harry Styles, reborn...Such a resemblance is uncanny!
Very good actor RIP 🌷
Thank you🎉
anyone, especially the cousin, who doesn't think that the uncle was off, are clueless
Post War Harry Stiles: A timid & awkward individual who accidentally became the biggest pin up of the 50s & early 60s
he starred in 60 films wrote many books and had many appearances on tv yet says he never wanted to be a star so thats complete rubbish as its like a person that rides horses saying i hate riding horses,if he hated it so much he would not have done it
I'm always in two minds over these types of documentaries. Whilst on one hand I think it's important to acknowledge the fact that homosexuals have existed and been forced to hide throughout history, on the other hand, if someone wished their private life to remain private that should be respected. That being said Im sat here watching it so perhaps I'm a hypocrite hahaha.
Loved arena intro
At 9:21 they show the home they spent most of the time in and I can't tell if it's a row home or if that's one big long house .
If that is several houses then it doesn't look to me like they had a lot of money ... not really although I do realize taxes are very high in England .
It was one of a row of houses. Very normal for England. His father lived on his earnings as an art editor. I think Bogarde said somewhere that they didn't inherit the Van de Bogarde money.
A man of great love, the actor and writer were merely two facets....to use the all to often misused phrase __ a Real man.
Read his books but although interesting not that compelling !
"Push twit, and give the laddie a mouth wash", and was told id keep getting this untill i learnt to speak properly, lol god bless our nothern neighbours and cousins!, watching arena takes me back to a spotty teenager, a masterfull documentary series that will be hard to beat now with its sheer viewing treasure..
Oh God no, ..Malher!
The adagietto from Mahler's Symphony No. 5, which was used to great effect in one of Dirk's finest films, Death In Venice (directed by Visconti).
All his stories were almost but could be true. The Flemings of northern Belgium, Flanders, prefer to be associated with the Dutch of the Netherlands with whom they share language, ethnicity, all but religion, rather than with the French Belgians, Walloons, of Southern Belgium with whom they share only religion.
'The Victim' 1961.....
DB’s wish was always to maintain a ‘private life’ away from the screen. These interviews and this posting therefore seem totally at odds with his wishes …..
then why did he write a 7 volume biography
@@whatever4566 Sadly, I believe he needed to earn some money at that stage in his life.
Had a lot secrets
Dirk Bogarde did have a child, a daughter, Gabrielle, born in Leeds in 1953.
Errr. I think that is nonsense
Rightly so.He was an actor and gossip Is only for the pea-brained people.His private Life Is his alone.We should have more respect!
arena was great
which film came first Brighton rock or blue lamp ? some similarities
I've never heard of him.
You have now. Consider yourself rewarded.
Good actor, though like many of them not such a character actor. Snobbish to the point of annoyance, he did well through his talent to become one of the few actors to reach the pinnacle of stardom, but his refusal to take second billing caused him to lose out on a number of roles that would have cemented his career further.
Wrong. He had a perfect career. His role on A Bridge Too Far is ensemble. But top billing.
Is that Dirk pulling up his bathing trunks at 17:20?
Brando made avery similar movie , Azul, Hollywood loves to imitate and remake.
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His sister is the spitting image of Tracy Ullman.
Not sure about that. But she, her son and younger brother don't come across as nice
What is nice?
Why not just come out with it? He was a gay man with a clear idea that his sexual identity would have had an effect on his life.
He had more class and dignity to reveal EVERYTHING about himself to the public who wouldnt have understood, his close freinds and family knew,,,the people he trusted.
I too believe he was obviously gay but in his era it was illegal to be an active homosexual and it would also have been career suicide if he had come out.
It was literally illegal until he was 46 years old. And people always seem to say "Well, why not afterwards?", but I don't think the fear just magically went away the second it was (partially) decriminalized. Living in fear like that for so many years would have to stick with you. And he certainly knew that the bigotry of the world around him hadn't gone away. So I understand why he'd be afraid to make it public.
Because it was a crime to be gay at that time… That’s why he had to lead a double life… Oscar Wilde was jailed for being gay
I wonder what Jesus wld say about it.?
Don't be embarrassed.? They just have a lot of female DNA, see how pretty they are.
Bogarde always strikes me as that typically 'sour snob' type of queer all too familiar in the 'arty-farty' world of the theatre.