Moana should have been a TV series. Imagine seeing seasons explore fleshing out the world building. I know Polynesian culture offers so much and explore
Moana 2 was supposed to be a TV show. They're doing what they did in the early 00s where they take the scrapped episodes of the show, string them together with some half-baked plot or framing device and dump it. Iger decided to make this change last minute as a Hail Mary to try and wring some profit out of the last few years of his tenure (hopefully). This why the marketing is vague and lacking. It's a Disney+ series that no one wanted turned into a movie.
A star walks into a black hole but doesn't seen phased. The black hole then turns to the star and says, "I don't think you understand the gravity of this situation."
@@ChenilleSagoe-x9hYup it was supposed to be a Disney+ show, but they changed it into a film at the very last minute, even though there's already a live action in the works
@@ChenilleSagoe-x9hthat’s also why Lin not doing the music for this because at the moment Disney ask Lin, he had no interest in making music for a tv show.
I don't know, I have to say Strange World was worse in the advertisement department. I didn't even realize it was a movie, I just thought it was like a park attraction or a museum display or something. Though I am getting very tired of movie ads (especially Disney) giving nothing for us to go on. The trailers are supposed to get us to want to see the movie, but the ads continually try to show as little of what they're selling as they can get away with. It's like the blurbs on the back of book covers!
Basically copy and paste serum of the first film injected into the Sequel 🧪💉 Moana: “How far I’ll go”🤩🤩🌊🌊 Moana 2: “What lies beyond” Me: IT’S BASICALLY THE SAME THING 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
6:27 Unpopular opinion: The Baroness from “Cruella” is the best Disney villain that we’ve had since Ernesto in “Coco”. Cunning, ruthless, and oh so fabulous lol Say what you want about Disney relying too heavily on their existing catalog for inspiration and how unnecessary a “101 Dalmatians” remake was. Whenever she was on screen, I was having a great time! I don’t know why Disney’s been so apprehensive to include purely evil villains of that caliber in their media (ya know, excluding their animated series because Emperor Bellos from “The Owl House” is easily one of the best villains of all time).
This movie should have stayed a series I guess Disney hasn't learned from Atlantis Milo's Return and Belle's Magical World, Moana 2 is a theatrical release while Atlantis Milo's Return and Belle's Magical World are direct-to-video sequels.
when i saw that they gave moana a little sister i was immediately turned off from the movie. unless moana ends up needing to save her or something, she was literally only added to be cute… and i hate that
@@jaybonn5973tbf, Barbinheimer was more successful, aside from the oppisite vibes to one another, because both are very well known figures before their movies. Like every physician and/or students knows about Oppenheimer and EVERYONE knows about Barbie since she was released
I don’t count Moana 2 as an actual Disney Animation theatrical film. This was a direct-to-streaming project (like all those direct-to-video “sequels” in the 90s-00s) that happened to get a theatrical release (also like Bambi 2 and Peter Pan 2 in certain regions). I’ll just wait until it’s on streaming, like it was originally supposed to be. I am looking forward to Zootopia 2 though.
The only thing that sounds broadway 🎭 are the songs from the Wicked movie 🎥💖💚 The poppification of Disney music The capitalismification of Disney movies 🎥 The live actionification of Animated Disney classics The sequelfication of Disney The screwification of Disney The lack of True Villainfication of Disney **The DOWNFALL of Disney**
I hate how Disney always get the pop songwriter for the musicals instead of actual you know musical writers like musicals are meant to show how a character feels when warrant is enough you use a musical number and none of these songs sound like they're doing that because these are already tread grounds like moana's already sung about wanting to go beyond in a better song how far I'll go this just feels like a repeat of a better song but made worse
That's a bit of an exaggeration, but yeah, the people on this app don't seem satisfied with anything walt disney studios does lately, so we'll get another portion of "Moana 2 is a disgrace" or something like that just like with Frozen 2, Wish, Raya, Strange world etc. (Though Raya and Strange world were actually very underwhelming)
Should have postponed it to Spring/Summer 2025 because Wicked and Sonic 3 are going to be playing tennis with Moana 2's corpse. It was a bad time to drop it especially when the hype for Wicked was growing through it's marketing. The soundtrack was Meh with no interesting songs [ That Lin Manuel Miranda energy is drying up due to overuse] Moana 2 is doom for Direct 2 Streaming
@ozvuchkibilla I'm still shocked that they're trying to salvage that. Even if the reshoots and reworking makes it an absolute 20/10 masterpiece the reception is pretty much DOA and it will need to make close to 1B just to break even after all the rework that has already gone into it, plus the marketing and press circuit.
@@declanmckenna6854 That film never stood a chance, but I'm hoping to at least seeing it because I liked the new song and the idea that Snow White wants to get her kingdom back and rule more fairly
Moana 👏🏾DIDN’T 👏🏾NEED 👏🏾A👏🏾 FREAKING!!! 👏🏾 THE ORIGINAL WAS GOOD ENOUGH ✅✅✅ Plus nobody can’t be asked with Disney anymore.... now it’s just making sequels or copy and paste animated classics recycled ♻️ Into live action remakes....I’m not going to watch Moana 2 or the live action Snow White Did Rachel Zegler caused drama or something?? 🤔 If anyone know anything please tell me Please spill the tea ☕️ 🍵
The marketing has been bad sincr "Strange World"--though it"s slowly gotten better. That said, JUST funished the movie and it was...meh. Better than "Wish," so that's something.
@rainebows Saw it, and everyone has different tastes. The new crewmembers and Simea felt more like unecessary plot devices than actual characters with depth, the music was better than "Wish" but nowhere close to the first film, and the story/message is pretty boring in contrast to the first film, imo. I'd wait.
I’m starting to think that whatever’s in the water at Disney’s offices, it’s been there since nearly the beginning… Maybe Walt’s cigarette ashes are at the base or something? *shrugs*
That’s it I can’t with Disney anymore.... I might as well become an animator and conquer Disney (**Mad at Disney plays in the background**) WHO’S WITH ME!!!! ✊🏾💫
LMM was thee secret ingredient of the original and he worked with the other two artists to make something unique. I think the one thing I rejected when it comes to the popification Disney is that a lot of Broadway songs since arguably rent are made to be contemporary sounding as opposed to the other way around. I think what makes a Broadway style song is when the music actually moves the story and tells you more about the setting and or characters. Moana 2 sort of does that but the lyrics really do make me feel like I'm less in ancient Hawaii and more so like I'm in 2024 la
Well, I saw it yesterday and really enjoyed it. The songs were no where near as good as the first, but finding out this was originally supposed to be a series explains a lot. Plus I’m still living on the high of seeing Wicked the day before, so there’s that. The songs were on par with Tangled the movie with the exception of Mother Knows Best and See the Light (the series had better songs than the movie 🤪). Now I’m actually more impressed at how well the movie turned out. All things considered I’m actually looking forward to Moana 3 now 😆
The marketing is so hilariously bad, i didn't even know it was playing in my country already. I only found out because i checked the playbill for an early wicked screening because that has the disrespect of coming out dec 12th here.
You know I wish that Disney Made the villain be inspired by a God or a story from Polynesian mythology kind of like how they made the Teka inspired by this God in Polynesian mythology who is the god of volcanoes I forgot what her name was but I do remember that she married this other God who was like a god of rain water and storms I wish I did something like that for the villain instead of making like this basic looking villain that feels like a villain who is trying so hard to be scary but it's just doing a bad job at it cuz that's like the Vibes I get from this villain just a kind of boring villain who want people to be afraid of I hope that's not all she is because I what this equal to be good or at least memorable but I'm not going to get my hopes up
I was initially excited by Moana 2 but, after watching this? I think I’ll just wait for it to come out to Disney so that I don’t end up wasting money a potentially underwhelming film
you're pronouncing matangi as matang'gi. it's just matangi. other than that, love the video! i now feel compelled to rewatch frozen 2 and check if the soundtrack is actually not as good. also debating whether or not i should listen to the moana 2 soundtrack or wait til i can watch it... which i'll probably watch it once it hits disney+.
Spoiler review: While still fun, it's just a rehash of the first film. Her urgency for the new journey is almost a copy paste of her first one but almost lacks any new character development. !!Spoiler!!Her becoming (presumably) a demigod doesn't feel as earned as her epic moment facing the lava monster. Maui also lacks any development and doesn't get to interact with Moana until I think the second half. The "villains" are just MCU-style cameos to tease the threequel. The crew is fun in their own way but I'm not exactly clamoring for them. Heihei now got twice the screen time and just gets tiresome half the time. Pua doesn't really add anything to the plot or gags other than Maui calling them eggs and bacon. None of the new songs are as memorable as from M1. The best part of the songs and score are just the callbacks from the M1 like the only memorable part of Beyond is the "I am Moanaaa!" part from the first movie. Matangi has the best new song imo but the bar isn't really high. If you watched and liked the first film back in 2016 you will enjoy this on some level but if you didn't then this is an easy skip.
OK, not really the point of the video, but I am interested to know this because I hear conflicting thoughts about it. How much of a story do you guys think should be in a trailer? Because I know some people legitimately do not want to even know the basic synopsis of a movie before they watch it because they think it "gives away the plot" but I've personally felt that I need to know at least that much or else I don't know if I'm interested.
Nah, even though I like Wish, I think the jazzy vibes of "get lost" are better than "This is the thanks I get", though, "This is the thanks I get" has more characterization
Moana should have been a TV series. Imagine seeing seasons explore fleshing out the world building. I know Polynesian culture offers so much and explore
Moana 2 was supposed to be a TV show. They're doing what they did in the early 00s where they take the scrapped episodes of the show, string them together with some half-baked plot or framing device and dump it.
Iger decided to make this change last minute as a Hail Mary to try and wring some profit out of the last few years of his tenure (hopefully). This why the marketing is vague and lacking. It's a Disney+ series that no one wanted turned into a movie.
A star walks into a black hole but doesn't seen phased. The black hole then turns to the star and says, "I don't think you understand the gravity of this situation."
“WHAT IS THAT MELODY!?”
@@Zeagods-CyberShadow Sigma from Overwatch 😂.
14:38 Eris from “Sinbad” has set the standard too high for all powerful deities in antagonistic positions lol
To be fair, Hades also had a similar power skillset with defying reality in "Hercules."
@@OpticalSorcererTrue. But the seafaring nature of this movie’s plot made me think of Eris first haha
@@Nameless_mixes NGL, Eris and Proteus were the only good parts of that movie. Hot take, I know.
Anyone excited for Schafrilla Production's movies long review on how mid the movie is, it will be his masterpiece
Hell yeah 😂
This was supposed to be a TV show
Really?
@@ChenilleSagoe-x9hYup it was supposed to be a Disney+ show, but they changed it into a film at the very last minute, even though there's already a live action in the works
@@ChenilleSagoe-x9hthat’s also why Lin not doing the music for this because at the moment Disney ask Lin, he had no interest in making music for a tv show.
I don't know, I have to say Strange World was worse in the advertisement department. I didn't even realize it was a movie, I just thought it was like a park attraction or a museum display or something.
Though I am getting very tired of movie ads (especially Disney) giving nothing for us to go on. The trailers are supposed to get us to want to see the movie, but the ads continually try to show as little of what they're selling as they can get away with. It's like the blurbs on the back of book covers!
You know, ironically, i just got a Moana 2 Ad when i checked on this video
Me too 😂
That’s not ironic, that’s coincidental 😂
I got one while watching the video
Basically copy and paste serum of the first film injected into the Sequel 🧪💉
Moana: “How far I’ll go”🤩🤩🌊🌊
Moana 2: “What lies beyond”
Me: IT’S BASICALLY THE SAME THING 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
6:27 Unpopular opinion: The Baroness from “Cruella” is the best Disney villain that we’ve had since Ernesto in “Coco”.
Cunning, ruthless, and oh so fabulous lol Say what you want about Disney relying too heavily on their existing catalog for inspiration and how unnecessary a “101 Dalmatians” remake was. Whenever she was on screen, I was having a great time!
I don’t know why Disney’s been so apprehensive to include purely evil villains of that caliber in their media (ya know, excluding their animated series because Emperor Bellos from “The Owl House” is easily one of the best villains of all time).
I've seen the ads on Disney Jr. But not anywhere else.
Which is odd since Moana was so popular.
"You will be destroyed" idk why, but that should be a meme😂
This movie should have stayed a series I guess Disney hasn't learned from Atlantis Milo's Return and Belle's Magical World, Moana 2 is a theatrical release while Atlantis Milo's Return and Belle's Magical World are direct-to-video sequels.
when i saw that they gave moana a little sister i was immediately turned off from the movie. unless moana ends up needing to save her or something, she was literally only added to be cute… and i hate that
I research about Matangi and she is the goddess of Inner Widsom and her actual skin is green and posses multiple arms! And here, she looks human.
You’re referring to the HINDU goddess.
People forgot that Moana movie had 80 BILLION minutes views on disney+
It's being overshadowed by gladiator and wicked
Just like Barbie 💅🏾💕💖 and Oppenheimer💣💣🧨🧨
@ChenilleSagoe-x9h the numbers are actually nearly 30% less which is a very interesting development in audience entertainment.
@@jaybonn5973tbf, Barbinheimer was more successful, aside from the oppisite vibes to one another, because both are very well known figures before their movies. Like every physician and/or students knows about Oppenheimer and EVERYONE knows about Barbie since she was released
Why are you lying it’s about to open bigger than both Wicked and Gladiator 😭
I....literally even forgot it was coming out anytime this week if not for this video so....wow.....
I don’t count Moana 2 as an actual Disney Animation theatrical film. This was a direct-to-streaming project (like all those direct-to-video “sequels” in the 90s-00s) that happened to get a theatrical release (also like Bambi 2 and Peter Pan 2 in certain regions). I’ll just wait until it’s on streaming, like it was originally supposed to be.
I am looking forward to Zootopia 2 though.
The only thing that sounds broadway 🎭 are the songs from the Wicked movie 🎥💖💚
The poppification of Disney music
The capitalismification of Disney movies 🎥
The live actionification of Animated Disney classics
The sequelfication of Disney
The screwification of Disney
The lack of True Villainfication of Disney
**The DOWNFALL of Disney**
Downfallification of Disney*
There better be a Schaffrillas cameo in this movie or I’m rioting
I didn’t even know this movie had a villain, I didn’t see her in any trailers until this video
I hate how Disney always get the pop songwriter for the musicals instead of actual you know musical writers like musicals are meant to show how a character feels when warrant is enough you use a musical number and none of these songs sound like they're doing that because these are already tread grounds like moana's already sung about wanting to go beyond in a better song how far I'll go this just feels like a repeat of a better song but made worse
Let's be real this movie is gonna make 2 billion or 3 billion but adults will still trash it.
That's a bit of an exaggeration, but yeah, the people on this app don't seem satisfied with anything walt disney studios does lately, so we'll get another portion of "Moana 2 is a disgrace" or something like that just like with Frozen 2, Wish, Raya, Strange world etc. (Though Raya and Strange world were actually very underwhelming)
Honestly, I'm more hyped for Sonic The Hedgehog 3.
Tbf an underwhelming Disney animated series being repackaged into an underwhelming sequel is kind of tradition
Should have postponed it to Spring/Summer 2025 because Wicked and Sonic 3 are going to be playing tennis with Moana 2's corpse.
It was a bad time to drop it especially when the hype for Wicked was growing through it's marketing.
The soundtrack was Meh with no interesting songs [ That Lin Manuel Miranda energy is drying up due to overuse]
Moana 2 is doom for Direct 2 Streaming
Snow White was already postponed to that so I'm guessing they didn't want to ruin that movie's already ruined marketing
@ozvuchkibilla I'm still shocked that they're trying to salvage that. Even if the reshoots and reworking makes it an absolute 20/10 masterpiece the reception is pretty much DOA and it will need to make close to 1B just to break even after all the rework that has already gone into it, plus the marketing and press circuit.
@@declanmckenna6854 That film never stood a chance, but I'm hoping to at least seeing it because I liked the new song and the idea that Snow White wants to get her kingdom back and rule more fairly
Dude Moana 2 will make a lot of money. More than this furry emo hedgehog.
@@Simbala-bq5vy never underestimate video game fans and kids. A lot of people are more excited for Sonic and Shadow than Moana
Moana 👏🏾DIDN’T 👏🏾NEED 👏🏾A👏🏾 FREAKING!!! 👏🏾
THE ORIGINAL WAS GOOD ENOUGH ✅✅✅
Plus nobody can’t be asked with Disney anymore.... now it’s just making sequels or copy and paste animated classics recycled ♻️ Into live action remakes....I’m not going to watch Moana 2 or the live action Snow White
Did Rachel Zegler caused drama or something?? 🤔
If anyone know anything please tell me
Please spill the tea ☕️ 🍵
The marketing has been bad sincr "Strange World"--though it"s slowly gotten better. That said, JUST funished the movie and it was...meh. Better than "Wish," so that's something.
wait did you just see it? do you think it’s worth going to theatres or just waiting for disney plus
@rainebows Saw it, and everyone has different tastes. The new crewmembers and Simea felt more like unecessary plot devices than actual characters with depth, the music was better than "Wish" but nowhere close to the first film, and the story/message is pretty boring in contrast to the first film, imo. I'd wait.
Moana 2 doesn't need marketing, it's first movie already a win for having 80 billion minutes views on disney+
yes it does. just so that people know it's happening
I’m starting to think that whatever’s in the water at Disney’s offices, it’s been there since nearly the beginning… Maybe Walt’s cigarette ashes are at the base or something?
*shrugs*
I got an ad for Moana 2 at the beginning of this video! 😂
This movie is going to prove that disney can do things with low quality and people will still go nuts for it
man... and me thinking the marketing of Transformers One was a disaster...
Would love to see your thoughts on Arcane!
What are your thoughts on arcane
Moana 2 and Transformers One are victims of poor marketing 😭😭😭😭
TIL ALL OUR ONE!!!
I wish Big Hero 6 had a sequel. Why is Disney sleeping on it?
Moana should have been a series like tangled 💀
That’s it I can’t with Disney anymore....
I might as well become an animator and conquer Disney
(**Mad at Disney plays in the background**)
WHO’S WITH ME!!!! ✊🏾💫
0:58 cutely hopes for a Tangled The Series related video
Moana 2 already won, it will be a huge hit on disney+ once it comes out plus not to mention it will broke tons of box office records
They changed the movie's name in Denmark due to it sharing it's name with a porn movie 👌
King your videos are always so good
7:18 and disney already has a very succesful seafaring franchise which nobody would complain if they just took some cues from.
LMM was thee secret ingredient of the original and he worked with the other two artists to make something unique.
I think the one thing I rejected when it comes to the popification Disney is that a lot of Broadway songs since arguably rent are made to be contemporary sounding as opposed to the other way around.
I think what makes a Broadway style song is when the music actually moves the story and tells you more about the setting and or characters.
Moana 2 sort of does that but the lyrics really do make me feel like I'm less in ancient Hawaii and more so like I'm in 2024 la
Well, I saw it yesterday and really enjoyed it. The songs were no where near as good as the first, but finding out this was originally supposed to be a series explains a lot. Plus I’m still living on the high of seeing Wicked the day before, so there’s that. The songs were on par with Tangled the movie with the exception of Mother Knows Best and See the Light (the series had better songs than the movie 🤪). Now I’m actually more impressed at how well the movie turned out.
All things considered I’m actually looking forward to Moana 3 now 😆
On Tangled, any plans to do a slower/spread out review of it like you do Winx?
excuse me i, for one, am very hype for this
My real concern is this movie following in the firsts (and Frozens) footsteps where 8 of the 9 songs are in the first act
Despite the almost non-existent marketing, the original target audience of the first movie came through and almost packed the showing I went to
The marketing is so hilariously bad, i didn't even know it was playing in my country already. I only found out because i checked the playbill for an early wicked screening because that has the disrespect of coming out dec 12th here.
Lol it gonna top Inside out 2 opening weekend this Thanksgiving. It's gonna do just fine
Chat I think we’ll be destroyed if we re-connect the people of the ocean
Yay Thomas is here!! Oh Moana 2- ....hi, I guess
You know I wish that Disney Made the villain be inspired by a God or a story from Polynesian mythology kind of like how they made the Teka inspired by this God in Polynesian mythology who is the god of volcanoes I forgot what her name was but I do remember that she married this other God who was like a god of rain water and storms I wish I did something like that for the villain instead of making like this basic looking villain that feels like a villain who is trying so hard to be scary but it's just doing a bad job at it cuz that's like the Vibes I get from this villain just a kind of boring villain who want people to be afraid of I hope that's not all she is because I what this equal to be good or at least memorable but I'm not going to get my hopes up
I was initially excited by Moana 2 but, after watching this? I think I’ll just wait for it to come out to Disney so that I don’t end up wasting money a potentially underwhelming film
I got a moana 2 ad before this video
you're pronouncing matangi as matang'gi. it's just matangi.
other than that, love the video! i now feel compelled to rewatch frozen 2 and check if the soundtrack is actually not as good. also debating whether or not i should listen to the moana 2 soundtrack or wait til i can watch it... which i'll probably watch it once it hits disney+.
I consider frozen 2 soundtrack better than the original soundtrack.
I listened to matangi's song and i thought it sounded catchy, not great, but catchy.
Spoiler review: While still fun, it's just a rehash of the first film. Her urgency for the new journey is almost a copy paste of her first one but almost lacks any new character development. !!Spoiler!!Her becoming (presumably) a demigod doesn't feel as earned as her epic moment facing the lava monster. Maui also lacks any development and doesn't get to interact with Moana until I think the second half. The "villains" are just MCU-style cameos to tease the threequel. The crew is fun in their own way but I'm not exactly clamoring for them. Heihei now got twice the screen time and just gets tiresome half the time. Pua doesn't really add anything to the plot or gags other than Maui calling them eggs and bacon. None of the new songs are as memorable as from M1. The best part of the songs and score are just the callbacks from the M1 like the only memorable part of Beyond is the "I am Moanaaa!" part from the first movie. Matangi has the best new song imo but the bar isn't really high. If you watched and liked the first film back in 2016 you will enjoy this on some level but if you didn't then this is an easy skip.
OK, not really the point of the video, but I am interested to know this because I hear conflicting thoughts about it.
How much of a story do you guys think should be in a trailer? Because I know some people legitimately do not want to even know the basic synopsis of a movie before they watch it because they think it "gives away the plot" but I've personally felt that I need to know at least that much or else I don't know if I'm interested.
I got an ad for moana for the first time watching this video xD
Moana 2, news to me
Honestly could not agree more Moana was surprisingly gods gift to mankind and somehow Moana 2 has less marketing than the live action adaptation
Make movies series but never make a series movie or a work that was ment to have the pace of a serie
Plus the summary of the story of the sequel is pretty much the exact same as the first movie.
10:03 lol now everybody hates pop 😂
Say what you will about Wish but I the villian song was better then this.🐻🧸
Nah, even though I like Wish, I think the jazzy vibes of "get lost" are better than "This is the thanks I get", though, "This is the thanks I get" has more characterization
@ozvuchkibilla Agreed while Wish isn't perfect you do remember the songs a bit better.🐻🧸