Its great, right? Right after you threw a giant machine in the air, Sam comes in and kicks yoir ass. And it turns out...he didn't even have enhancements. And yet Raiden had to throw half his body away to deal with him.
@@thegreathambino9561 The suit actually enhances the user's capabilities so he can compete against cyborgs. Also, he wields what is probably the best high frequency blade in the world
Wilson I dunno, the lengths Ninja Gaiden Black goes through to make sure you feel like utter worthless crap for unlocking and playing Ninja Dog Mode, lol.
I remember when I first played Ninja Gaiden Black and accidentally unlocked Ninja Dog difficulty and hearing Ayane berate me, I felt like the game just challenged me by telling me I wasn't good enough. So in my salty fury I started the game from the very beginning and beat it. Was a very satisfying moment for me.
"Red Oni is kind of stupid" *Dante destroys his office and kicks down his door and genuinely blames the demons for the condition of the building after* Yeah, checks out
Dante could actually be arguably smarter than Vergil. We're not all too sure what Vergil does off screen. We do know he tries his strength against other devils. Nelo Angelo is an enslavement of Vergil, he was used as a device to attempt to destroy Dante, just like Trish was. Mundus wasn't expecting for Dante to recognize his brother and go easy on him, which left Vergil alive but wounded. While yes, they both do develop by testing their strength against assumed stronger foes, Dante seems to go back to his tried and true Ebony and Ivory plus Rebellion/large bastard sword, while Vergil appears to sort of absorb the extra weapons he gains. Of course DMCV changes this somewhat, but again Dante seems to already know it's his brother driving the Armageddon machine (and it looked to me that he had his suspicions about V being related to the Sparda line somehow.) His assumed stupidity could be the way he crafted himself to lure in some of the worst Devil lords (excluding DMC 3), plus his attractant as one of Sparda's son and/or being half blooded. He does sort of point out that Vergil and his own human blood is what makes them stronger than what just being a devil would have. Which is true considering the near constant world ending foes they face (constant training?). Other media also shows that Dante does have at least the same amount of cunning as Vergil, just that he's not fully used to how devils of the caliper to actually hurt him act.
@@Vlad2319 In Marvel Vs Capcom 3, both Dante and Vergil have the same exact stats in terms of the power level. Except in the intelligence category, where Vergil is one point over Dante. So yeah. Canonically, Vergil has one more braincell than Dante.
@@velinaastrid4876 vergil: Dante! This time is will win because I have a power you don't even know about. Whips out quantum morpher. Vergil: it's morphine time!
Dante- doesnt care about how his hair looks so he lets it do as it naturally wants Vergil- must distinguish himself from dante so he actively does the opposite of dante They both love to fight and slay enemies in flashy ways
Wicked The Mad Hatter Another interesting thing to note is that Vergil styles his hair in the same manner of his father sparda (you can unlock Spardas human costume in DMC3) - a clear reference to Vergils obsession with being more like his father and pursuing his demonic heritage.
Vergil's not just a rival. He is also an indirect teacher of the game. He makes you discover your best tools and moves when dealing with him, and also aids in improving your reaction time and intuition. Then you apply the new found knowledge you gained when fighting Vergil on enemies on higher difficulty or tougher enemies, thus making you appreciate the gameplay more and have fun.
better yet, he knows how to punish bad behavior, its why when people call DMC3 a button masher, you know they havent played the game. vergil wont allow the player to succeed in button mashing, on the contrary, he has built in counters that will destroy dante if the player attempts to do it.
In the cutscences, Vergil beats Dante and then spares him and tells him to come back stronger. As evil as Vergil is, he guides Dante the whole time and he expected him to get to the top of the tower, knowing what demons guarded it. He really was a mentor the whole time.
DMC, Bayonetta, Metal Gear Rising, No More Heroes, other than having a badass main character for all of those games, one thing you just can't forget about are their god tier ost's. I'm a sucker for good music and soundtracks.
Just Some Guy without a Mustache yeah honestly the timing and style of the boss music in MGR:R is done amazingly well, more than most other games. Like DAMN, those lyrics starting at the climax of the battles are so exhilarating.
@@Ianadaya Yeah, it's the best shit ever. My only gripe with it is that so many people never fought Sundowner with the lyrics, who you can force into phase 2 very close to the start of the fight. He should have been stronger, and forced you to put him in phase 2. And then they flipped it on it's head with Sam and Steven with the lyrics playing from the start and only disappearing when the murasama is not in play. Pure eargasmic music. All the way through.
Vergil is not only The Rival. What makes him great is his relation to Dante, the protagonist. The emotions behind their rivalry are natural and very easy to understand. Before all they are brothers, they share the best moments of each other's life, and in the end they do love each other. I can hardly imagine any of them would make a finishing blow to the other even if they win. They are not stupid to let go of the only thing that keeps their world spinning.
Hmmm Im not sure about that, pretty sure Vergil didn't know Dante Devil Trigger would activate from being impaled by the Rebellion. Vergil's only goal in that game was to get the power of Sparda and Dante had something he needed and once he got it he didn't care about him. Also in DMC5 it was made very clear that they intended to kill each other until Nero came along to stop them. Yes they love each other but both have duties to themselves that is more important to them, Dante wants to keep humanity safe and Vergil wants power no matter the cost, making Vergil a threat to humanity(literally cause hundreds of people to die twice) and Dante the obstacle to Vergil's plans.
@@anthonyroberts7486 vergil was fully aware that would awaken dantes devil trigger as he doesnt seem at all surprised and thats how his own was awakened. Vergil goads dante into leaving the demon world and even stays inside it so dante can escape aswell as cuts his hand so dante doesnt grab him to prevent him falling off the cliff. Dante didnt want to kill vergil and vergil didnt want to kill dante in dmc5 but they are running out of options as vergil wants to prove his superiority once and for all while dante as you said cant let vergil keep putting all these lives in danger, its more a necessity than a desire which is where nero comes in, nero gives vergils life a purpose outside of a quest for power that is born from an inferiority complex and shows him another way and the end cutscene in the underworld shows this where they are fighting still but not with intent to kill. vergil and dante do care about eachother even love eachother although neither one would ever admit it but the subtext is there.
They care about each other and don't _want_ the other person to die, but paradoxically they would kill each other. It's heavily implied that the blow Nero stops would've killed either both or one of them, and in 3 Dante clearly says "I have to stop you. Even if that means killing you." Again, clearly Dante doesn't want to kill him as he cries later in the game (and has depression in the anime).
One thing I love about Dante and Vergil's relationship is that in DMC3, they're angry at each other in every scene, and even though Dante doesn't want to kill Vergil at the end, he's still willing to do it. It's such a serious scene that even Dante can't crack his usual smile. Then we see them reunite in DMC5, and Vergil, completely different from how he was in 3, actually gives Dante a chance to rest and recover. And when they showdown at the top of the tree, they actually are able to smile at each other, even if this fight will result in one of their death's once more. Even if the result is the same, I get the feeling they're happy to see each other, or happy to be back in something that feels familiar after everything that's happened to them.
Here's how to make a perfect rival: 1) Make them wear a contrasting colour (like Vergil wears blue against red, Sasuke wears violet against orange etc). 2) Give them "I don't give a damn" attitude. 3) Give them a Katana. 4) Make them extremely memeable. 5) Done.
Vergil is easily the standard by which all other rival characters are judged. Devil May Cry 3’s use of the concept is about as perfect as it gets. Each of the game’s three acts ends in a duel with Vergil. Dante loses the first encounter rather decisively, the second encounter is on more equal footing, as Dante has caught up to Vergil but ends with no clear winner, and the third encounter ends with Dante victorious after coming to terms with and fully understanding and accepting the responsibility of his lineage.
DMC 3 has been my favorite game since I was in middle school and it came out. I have played so many titles and admittedly there are many great games that have come out since this game, including DMC 5. But this games amazing story and combat always bring me back to it. Vergil is by far my favorite rival/ boss in a video game.
Not to mention how his character perfectly contrasts Dante's. It really made me want to beat his ass just to prove who was better, and it's the main reason the character sticks with me still.
@Just Some Guy with a Mustache • At this point, I've decided to like every one of your comments that I see just to encourage you to continue using whatever sorcery it is that allows you to do this.
another thing about Jetstream Sam, Raiden has a mask that covers his eyes and is very angular, while Sam has a mask that covers his mouth, and has curves on it. along with that, they both have a scar on their eyes, the difference being: raiden lost his eye with the attack, while sam didnt, i personally think this has an effect of "i went through the same thing as you, but I did better." if that makes sense
And also the fact that Sam is fully organic with very few cyborg enhancements whilst Raiden on the other hand removed almost all of his organic parts in favor of a fully cybernetic body with the only exception that is his face
16:56 "what would be the point of hyping out your rival through out the entire game only to have their fight be an absolute cakewalk" *Batman: Arkham Knight:* 😨
Yea it was pretty underwhelming. Not that I'd imagine if we did get an actual proper hand to hand boss fight with him it'd be anything to do backflips over as I suppose it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say the Freeflow combat system was never really built for for one on one battles, hence why Deathstroke's fight in Origins was more or less abit of a QTE fest.
Bully also suffers from this. By the end of the game, you're facing Gary, the guy who almost single-handedly took over Bullworth and put everybody against you. The problem is that when you get to face him, you are so Overpowered that the final boss of the game, is easiest than the first one. btw english is not my first lenguage so sorry any grammar errors :(.
@@HardRock17 Nah, you got your point across just fine, and I actually agree with you. Even after the game takes away your weapons, by the time you have your final battle against Gary you're already so beefed up from training CQC with the homeless guy that you beat him in less than two minutes.
The color decisions with Bayonetta and Jeanne are really interesting. Having their color scheme be inverted versions of the same colors rather than opposing colors is an excellent way to foreshadow... *SPOILERS* That they are not truly opposed at all.
DMC3 was the first game that made me want to grind, train, and power up as much as I could. Find all the Blue orbs, Max out the DT gauge, unlock all the combos. All so you could have that final showdown with Vergil in style. Being able to stay in Devil Trigger as long as he, the Final Boss can, was some hype shit for me.
I feel exactly the same, except for that I found the Killer Bee method to negate the difficulty of the last Vergil fight on my first run and felt immensely disappointed
To comment on Jeanne from Bayonetta, while her default costume and biker outfits are primarily red with black accents, once you get to her final fight or unlock her as a playable character, it's heavily implied that her umbran witch uniform is actually white with blue/purple accents.
It's partly because Umbral Witches weave their hair for their magic, and the "outfits" Bayonetta and Jeanne are wearing in their final encounter/playable form are woven from their hair, which is why using their Wicked Weaves and summoning abilities cause their suit to "unravel" off of them. They're literally wearing their hairdo as a bodysuit, and Bayo's hair is black while Jeanne's is white. There's also the additional overhang of hair/plumage off of their sleeves. Bayonetta's outfit has sharp, straight, angular strips hanging off of her outfit, while Jeanne has fluffier, fuller, and more soft looking plumage-like poofs coming off of her sleeves. There's something to be said about these differences too, as far as appearance tying into their personality.
The blue coat on Vergil is not only a thing to assume the contrast with Dante. It's a callback of the "Divina Commedia" poem where Dante is usually seen with a red vest and Virgilio (his guide throug hell) with a blue one
It reminds me of Devilhand, one of the main antagonist in Godhand: the exact opposite of the main character, but waaaay stronger and agile, making you learn to use skills and movesets you actually avoid during the first part of the game since they are harder to master (one of the game's core mechanics lets you build your combo with different style attacks, from pummeling to just kicking, fast or slow and a rage meter) forcing you to leave your confort zone in order to actually defeat him.
Oh that guy broke me, all right. It made me realize I had to fight him very differently than the others. He actually improved my dodging skills, and after that, as I got better and better at the game, I looked forward to fighting him more and more. To the point in the second fight against Devil Hand, I always prepared my ultimate finisher. The BALL BUSTER. Just to rub in the disrespect and flex my Victory.
"Better at the game than you" is my favorite motivator. In CrossCode a rival character challenges the player to a duel and their moveset is identical to the player's, no gimmicks. You literally get to see someone be better than you with your own toolset. I was astounded by the effectiveness of motivation through gameplay.
In regards to how similar protagonists are to their rival in terms of combat, God Hand hits that quite well. The rival has an exact moveset to the main character and possesses the same abilities while staying true to the game's design to its difficulty. The fight is a challenge for newcomers and veterans alike, and it feels just as gratifying to overcome.
Rivalry is something I wish everyone had. I was always good at math in school, but I never really cared to get perfect scores. Until I met someone who was just as good as me in highschool. We had a friendly rivalry and tried to see who could get better scores on tests. TLDR; some friendly rivalry can help immensely and better the two individuals
Same with me Right now in high-school There is a girl that is very very talented at drawing And when I say talented I mean it, she can draw a portrait so accurate that I couldn't tell if it was an printed picture or handrawn And I'm something of a artist myself But I'm leagues away from her lvl That made me develop an crush as well as jealousy And that inspired me to pick up on my artwork I even made a portrait of Sam and armstrong They aren't accurate but I give them a pass for proportions
Jetstream's backstory also adds, by the fact that he had a similar goal to Raiden after prologue. He tried to takedown World Marshal and Desperado in his DLC, after being critically injured by Armstrong, He knew there wouldn't be any other way to continue without Power, and that he became corrupt to Immediately at realization.
God Hand would have been another excellent game to explore those themes as well. Unfortunately it is nowhere near as popular. Great work and insight overall!
@@N0URii We need a Capcom Cult Classics Collection containing God Hand, Viewtiful Joe, and Asura's Wrath. Dang, I wanna see Asura's Wrath with a proper frame rate and non-pixel-blur textures so bad...
I am so desperate for a RE style remake for DMC 3 and a sequel for MGR-Revengeance. Vergil and Jetstream Sam are some of my favorite most boss fights ever. The power and charisma that these dudes exude is legendary. I loved your analysis!
10:35 You could say.... there's no bullshit in this fight. No minions, no shields, no Monsoon telling me about fucking, Among Us. It's just you, the sunset, and the S O I L
The *"Ocelot Effect"* is something like this: 1. A Backstabber 2. Master Manipulator 3. True Mastermind 4. The Side of either Good or Bad 5. Great Pretender 6. Testing it's Opponents (Especially the MC) 7. Pathological Liar 8. Double (Triple) Agent
Jetstream Sam is my favorite fictional character *period*. He's just the most charismatic creature in existence, it's actually impossible to hate him. I usually don't really have strong reactions to character's deaths in media but I actually cried when he died.
7:50 Ragna: HEEEEYYY IM NOT STUPID!!!!! Jin: You can call me what you like, that will not change the fact that trash will always be so... *Stares at Noel*
I know they're not video game characters, technically, but Ryuko Matoi and Satsuki Kiryuin from Kill La Kill totally fit everything you said in this video and I think are a good example.
@@Lugbzurg From Nero's pov, perhaps. But in DMC4, Dante never took Nero (or anyone else in the game) seriously; he was in another league from everyone and everything else in that arc.
Kyle: The rival makes you want to be better and discover. Me: Almost threw my controller into my monitor for like 10x times at the end of DMC3 and DMC5.
Telltale sign of a Rival: the first time you fight them, they slowly walk towards you. Works every time. An underrated personal favorite Rival character from a non-character action source: Daisaku Kuze from Yakuza Zero. He doesn't tick most of the boxes (no backstory, no relationship with your character, moveset that doesn't mirror the character's, no color coding), but his absolutely dogged determination to fight Kiryu coupled with his utterly outstanding theme (and remix thereof) have him on my list of favorites.
yakuza is a character action tho, past kiwami 1, 3, and 6. every single game has another main character take the spotlight(majima, akiyama, and all that stuff).
I think Kuze works as well as he does because he has no similarities to Kiryu. Kuze looks at Kiryu and initially thinks he is a cowardly weakling who keeps using cheap tactics to just disrespect the old Yakuza code that Kuze lives and breathes. But, as the story goes on, Kuze comes to realize that Kiryu has his own strong code of ethics that he will not compromise, and it culminates in Kuze finally ceding that Kiryu is an equal, if not better man than he is.
Loved this video. And character rivalries are my favourite thing. Specially when done right, with character designs and concepts are perfectly mirroring each other. I've seen it in games, animes and books several times now, and I love it every time. Think Alucard and Anderson, or even Naruto and Sasuke. Arjuna and Karna from Fate are also one of my favourites. There are more out there, but they are always great additions to the story.
I will say. Jetstream Sam is a Really Good Rival. His fight even Motivated me to get a S Rank against him. Took me a hour or so of just listening to "The Only Thing I Know For Real" and hearing Sam trash talk me over and over. Also me trying to Parry Perfectly each time while trying to not get hit. Also trying to Predict his Movements and what he will do. It felt amazing after getting through his 3rd Phase and actually seeing those two buttons that I needed to Press. Y and B. It felt amazing
I don't usually give likes, but this deserves it, Im a HUGE fan of MGR and Dmc, and honestly, you nailed the entire video, (I'm not English sorry) thank you so much for give this gift to the yt community :)
11:53 my favorite shot from DMC3. Virgil had no reason to point the blade at Dante but did it anyway for the hell of it... Almost as if to say "look how perfectly I landed away from you"
Also, in the case of jetstream Sam, the "out of tone design" Made him Even more compeling... What i mean is that, every enemy and Even raiden seem like an averrage japanese shonen desing... While jetstream Sam looks like a Gantz character, Even that weird smile he has feels out of those with the overall design of the Game.
You know what always made Vergil such a good rival to me? Simple, as far as I knew, Dante had no equal, ever, his power was peak, then along comes this asshole wielding the ultimate weeb sword and he kicks my ass into next week
@@stardustdragonx3612I disagree, the point is still there. And what is more weeb than an overclocked katana that cuts through stuff it shouldn’t? Like *TIME AND SPACE* The Katana isn’t a bad sword by any stretch of the imagination, but this is silly strength.
DMC3 was the first hack n slash where I was glued to the story. Its still the genre defining title that changed how they were made. It brought the genre into the next generations. We need another genre changer. MGS could have been that, but it was so specific in style nobody would want to copy it, and it being what it is, a substitute would not do
10:37 "just a dude with a katana, same as you" Isn't (after the prologue) Raidens entire body so extremely augmented to the point where he basically is just a robot with a human head?
@@winsonlu3559 actually, he has a wig that's almost identical to his original hair (hence the infinite wigs A, B and Blade Mode) I'm pretty sure that Raiden is only a brain at this point and his head (and later body) is just covered in artificial skin.
This vid allowed me to search thru many ideas just to create a character, a perfect rival for my main character. It helped me a lot and I thank you for it. This made me subscribe to your channel too. Thank you again!
19:13 "Your first fight is an introduction to the rival mechanically. They have a watered down move set to better reflect the state of your move list." Kiwami 1 Majima: Oh was I supposed to be holding back?
Great video, I realize some things that I didn't in those game related to why the rivals are so compelling, and why Vergil is so emblematic in the genre, and now I know why Devil may Cry is my favourite character action franchise.
"He is not only more powerful than you, but also, he is better at this game than you are" killed me. When I first played DMC 3, it was my first DMC experience too, I didn't die to the Hell Vanguard, but it did took like, 10 minutes to kill + the Life Star you get at the start of the mission
Great content and awesome music selection! When I heard the Va11Halla soundtrack I was sold hahaha Thank you for making this dude, I always love seeing people break down the complexity of game design and comment on what makes a game good.
I've been putting watching this off, because of all the Vergil videos I've seen, but it seems this is very special compared to all the others. I feel like I came out a lot wiser.
Trainer Red & Rival Blue from Pokemon fits this video philosophy very well. Having him be your tutorial/early battle & final boss battle makes it hard to forget that character
Hi, I think this is a really good video. Just 2 quick criticisms: I used to think the complimentary color to blue was red, but after I took a color theory class, I learned that it’s actually green. The other one is more of a matter of opinion: I don’t think that Dante is an idiot, I think he’s actually incredibly smart. I think Dante is more reactionary where Vergil is more calculated. But this was an awesome video. I learned a lot from it! And now I’m subscribed!
Don't you mean "responsive" rather than reactionary? Would you agree that Dante is more egalitarian, laid back and not caring about hierarchies in power and standing, whereas Virgil is all about ascending in a power hierarchy and looking down on those who refuse to. This makes me identify Virgil much more with the aristocracy of old (also see the long leather boots he wears) and Dante more with modern Rock stars generation. A duality "initiating a complex scheme" (calculating) versus "responsive to the surroundings" is probably a better opposition than "calculating versus reactionary".
From Wiki: Which pairs of colors are considered complementary depends on the color theory one uses: Modern color theory uses either the RGB additive color model or the CMY subtractive color model, and in these, the complementary pairs are red-cyan, green-magenta, and blue-yellow. In the traditional RYB color model, the complementary color pairs are red-green, yellow-purple, and blue-orange. Opponent process theory suggests that the most contrasting color pairs are red-green, and blue-yellow. So while red-green is complimentary that doesn't mean red-blue (well, "red-cyan" but cyan is just light blue anyway) is not.
@@Sid_Streams So many words to just say "calculating vs reactionary." Dante's character is very much reactionary in the way he lives life a point he drives home for us in the original Devil May Cry. The only time he is proactive about his job is when it specifically involves cleaning up after his father. The punk rock/metal counter culture was a reaction to the societal attempts to quash the rock and metal genres, including the people in them. To be reactionary is to be revolutionary which is why every major story of Dante is to overthrow some self-important, power hoarding, tyrant with a Sparda-boner (Arkham, Arius, Mundas, Sanctus). If that includes his own brother, which is does, then so be it.
Subscribed! My love of Vergil and final bosses has grown after this video! Very informative and the type of analization I need for my own type of stories. Thank you, DDC
This video is amazing. It lacks a highly forgotten, but good game. The godhand had an amazing rival with similar moveset, that was actually amazing to fight in that game combat system. The angle and mechanics of the combat system in that game made the fights with the rival really personal and good. Also the sa-x from metroid fusion feels so good as a rival.
Here’s another good example of a rival: the edge from furi. Although he isn’t met early on your still already aware that he will be a challenge due to his placement as one of the last jailers in the game. During the walking sequence he gets hyped up by the voice. When you enter the fight you see his colour scheme is similar to the player. He’s primarily red in energy while the main character is primarily blue in energy. When the fight begins you see he also uses a katana which shows he is similar to the player. However half way through the fight the edge shows how much better he is by using a boat oar as a weapon yet be more difficult. The fight actually pushes the players to their limit for the melee combat and rewards you by revealing that he was the strongest jailer
Thank you for that, now I'm feeling a little *motivated*. It's awesome how you point out that Vergil is the character that upped expectations. Especially due to his triumphant return in DMC 5 where he is named the "Alpha and the Omega" he really is the beginning and the end of rival characters 🤣
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Skyscraper sized Monster?
No problem.
Single humanoid figure the size of the Player?
*OH GOD NO*
That same thought was running through my mind as I watched this video lol
TheXell Jetstream Sam and Armstrong are pretty terrifying.
@@SenatorArmstrong2018 armstrong is a human-metal gear hybrid.
Yeah when said humanoid can tank skyscraper size demons lol
@@returnedtomonkey8886 no he is just a man who have nanomachines... son
Finding out Jetstream Sam never had nanomachine upgrades and was just a really talented guy in a suit after you defeat him really messed with me.
Its great, right? Right after you threw a giant machine in the air, Sam comes in and kicks yoir ass. And it turns out...he didn't even have enhancements. And yet Raiden had to throw half his body away to deal with him.
I mean the suit helps alot
@@archie6890 the suit is just armor, this man sliced a metal gear in half without any cybernetic enhancements
@@thegreathambino9561 the suit is an exoskeleton
@@thegreathambino9561 The suit actually enhances the user's capabilities so he can compete against cyborgs. Also, he wields what is probably the best high frequency blade in the world
"Easy mode is now selectable."
There are few things that feel more degrading than DMC's easy automatic mode
The biggest insult in DMC, and gaming history in general.
Wilson I dunno, the lengths Ninja Gaiden Black goes through to make sure you feel like utter worthless crap for unlocking and playing Ninja Dog Mode, lol.
2 shirtless boys fighting in the rain
I remember when I first played Ninja Gaiden Black and accidentally unlocked Ninja Dog difficulty and hearing Ayane berate me, I felt like the game just challenged me by telling me I wasn't good enough. So in my salty fury I started the game from the very beginning and beat it. Was a very satisfying moment for me.
"Red Oni is kind of stupid"
*Dante destroys his office and kicks down his door and genuinely blames the demons for the condition of the building after*
Yeah, checks out
What was he supposed to do, let his style meter drop below S?
Dante could actually be arguably smarter than Vergil. We're not all too sure what Vergil does off screen. We do know he tries his strength against other devils. Nelo Angelo is an enslavement of Vergil, he was used as a device to attempt to destroy Dante, just like Trish was. Mundus wasn't expecting for Dante to recognize his brother and go easy on him, which left Vergil alive but wounded. While yes, they both do develop by testing their strength against assumed stronger foes, Dante seems to go back to his tried and true Ebony and Ivory plus Rebellion/large bastard sword, while Vergil appears to sort of absorb the extra weapons he gains. Of course DMCV changes this somewhat, but again Dante seems to already know it's his brother driving the Armageddon machine (and it looked to me that he had his suspicions about V being related to the Sparda line somehow.) His assumed stupidity could be the way he crafted himself to lure in some of the worst Devil lords (excluding DMC 3), plus his attractant as one of Sparda's son and/or being half blooded. He does sort of point out that Vergil and his own human blood is what makes them stronger than what just being a devil would have. Which is true considering the near constant world ending foes they face (constant training?). Other media also shows that Dante does have at least the same amount of cunning as Vergil, just that he's not fully used to how devils of the caliper to actually hurt him act.
@@Vlad2319 Dante is smarter because he never hooked up.
Vergil? **Sigh** _D i s a p p o i n t i n g_
@@Vlad2319
In Marvel Vs Capcom 3, both Dante and Vergil have the same exact stats in terms of the power level.
Except in the intelligence category, where Vergil is one point over Dante.
So yeah. Canonically, Vergil has one more braincell than Dante.
@@Skallva Vergil just had to get the superiority in, even if it's not flattering
Step one: make them walk towards you in the boss fight, as if you’re not a real threat.
This. My favorite boss fights are exactly these, where the boss never runs, just walks around you, knowing you're just a nuisance to them
Senator Armstrong intensifies, like he never actually run, except for a few dash attacks to say
Eh, that's not why Vergil walks though. His fighting style is a 'focus' based moveset based on precise movements.
Oh, you are approaching me
Sekiro= "Genichiro" , Isshin , and Owl be like.
Did anyone notice Vergil is on screen every time he says "Motivation?"
Now I'm motivated
Of course he is, I wouldn’t have it any other way.
Right?! Lol
Six Peace
Vergil is the definition of motivation lol
Its his catchphrase
The funny thing is, Virgil is voiced by the same guy who is Eric, The Quantum Ranger in Time Force; who is a rival to the Red Ranger.
Only the real knew about this ⚡😎😎💯
Vergil was a power ranger the whole time.
@@willnorman-bargo I'm just ready for him to whip out the quantum morpher
@@velinaastrid4876 vergil: Dante! This time is will win because I have a power you don't even know about.
Whips out quantum morpher.
Vergil: it's morphine time!
I need more quantum POWER
Dante- doesnt care about how his hair looks so he lets it do as it naturally wants
Vergil- must distinguish himself from dante so he actively does the opposite of dante
They both love to fight and slay enemies in flashy ways
Wicked The Mad Hatter
Another interesting thing to note is that Vergil styles his hair in the same manner of his father sparda (you can unlock Spardas human costume in DMC3) - a clear reference to Vergils obsession with being more like his father and pursuing his demonic heritage.
@@RUclipsMadeMePickHandle dmc5 shows sparda and he looks fairly close to Beethoven (he also looks like a creepy perve
@@wickedthemadhatter9713 XD
Plus Vergil actually wear clothes. In the non cannon novels, they're armour underneath.
@@magicmanscott40k yeah his vest does look extremely similar to armor
You just wanted an excuse to talk about Vergil without talking about Vergil for an entire video, didn't you?
He's just a big fan of Vergil that's all 😐
@@chickenmeme_4768 don't we all are
So did I lol
@@KhoiV Aren't*
Those inferior rivalries are not worthy as his opponents
"they are cool"
*shows Jetstream Sam's shiteatting grin*
You're Goddamn right
Vergil's not just a rival. He is also an indirect teacher of the game. He makes you discover your best tools and moves when dealing with him, and also aids in improving your reaction time and intuition. Then you apply the new found knowledge you gained when fighting Vergil on enemies on higher difficulty or tougher enemies, thus making you appreciate the gameplay more and have fun.
better yet, he knows how to punish bad behavior, its why when people call DMC3 a button masher, you know they havent played the game. vergil wont allow the player to succeed in button mashing, on the contrary, he has built in counters that will destroy dante if the player attempts to do it.
no
In the cutscences, Vergil beats Dante and then spares him and tells him to come back stronger. As evil as Vergil is, he guides Dante the whole time and he expected him to get to the top of the tower, knowing what demons guarded it. He really was a mentor the whole time.
@@magicmanscott40k More of a rival that wants to prove he's better than Dante I suppose.
@@magicmanscott40k Well, they're brothers after all.
Ryu said it best:
“Face someone who is your equal. Only then can you improve“.
What's the sauce?
@@koleszgdanska7149 Street Fighter 3: 3rd strike
DMC, Bayonetta, Metal Gear Rising, No More Heroes, other than having a badass main character for all of those games, one thing you just can't forget about are their god tier ost's. I'm a sucker for good music and soundtracks.
Yeah, metal gear rising's music is very memorable. It's amazing. When I'm old and loopy, it'll probably be the only thing I know for real.
@@kinorris1709 **suplexes metal gear**
Just Some Guy without a Mustache yeah honestly the timing and style of the boss music in MGR:R is done amazingly well, more than most other games. Like DAMN, those lyrics starting at the climax of the battles are so exhilarating.
@@Ianadaya Yeah, it's the best shit ever. My only gripe with it is that so many people never fought Sundowner with the lyrics, who you can force into phase 2 very close to the start of the fight. He should have been stronger, and forced you to put him in phase 2.
And then they flipped it on it's head with Sam and Steven with the lyrics playing from the start and only disappearing when the murasama is not in play.
Pure eargasmic music. All the way through.
That's way too true
The quality of this video MOTIVATED me like it.
1.2k likes and no comments?
Vergil is not only The Rival. What makes him great is his relation to Dante, the protagonist. The emotions behind their rivalry are natural and very easy to understand. Before all they are brothers, they share the best moments of each other's life, and in the end they do love each other. I can hardly imagine any of them would make a finishing blow to the other even if they win. They are not stupid to let go of the only thing that keeps their world spinning.
Hmmm Im not sure about that, pretty sure Vergil didn't know Dante Devil Trigger would activate from being impaled by the Rebellion. Vergil's only goal in that game was to get the power of Sparda and Dante had something he needed and once he got it he didn't care about him. Also in DMC5 it was made very clear that they intended to kill each other until Nero came along to stop them. Yes they love each other but both have duties to themselves that is more important to them, Dante wants to keep humanity safe and Vergil wants power no matter the cost, making Vergil a threat to humanity(literally cause hundreds of people to die twice) and Dante the obstacle to Vergil's plans.
@@anthonyroberts7486 vergil was fully aware that would awaken dantes devil trigger as he doesnt seem at all surprised and thats how his own was awakened. Vergil goads dante into leaving the demon world and even stays inside it so dante can escape aswell as cuts his hand so dante doesnt grab him to prevent him falling off the cliff. Dante didnt want to kill vergil and vergil didnt want to kill dante in dmc5 but they are running out of options as vergil wants to prove his superiority once and for all while dante as you said cant let vergil keep putting all these lives in danger, its more a necessity than a desire which is where nero comes in, nero gives vergils life a purpose outside of a quest for power that is born from an inferiority complex and shows him another way and the end cutscene in the underworld shows this where they are fighting still but not with intent to kill.
vergil and dante do care about eachother even love eachother although neither one would ever admit it but the subtext is there.
They care about each other and don't _want_ the other person to die, but paradoxically they would kill each other. It's heavily implied that the blow Nero stops would've killed either both or one of them, and in 3 Dante clearly says "I have to stop you. Even if that means killing you."
Again, clearly Dante doesn't want to kill him as he cries later in the game (and has depression in the anime).
One thing I love about Dante and Vergil's relationship is that in DMC3, they're angry at each other in every scene, and even though Dante doesn't want to kill Vergil at the end, he's still willing to do it. It's such a serious scene that even Dante can't crack his usual smile. Then we see them reunite in DMC5, and Vergil, completely different from how he was in 3, actually gives Dante a chance to rest and recover. And when they showdown at the top of the tree, they actually are able to smile at each other, even if this fight will result in one of their death's once more. Even if the result is the same, I get the feeling they're happy to see each other, or happy to be back in something that feels familiar after everything that's happened to them.
Here's how to make a perfect rival:
1) Make them wear a contrasting colour (like Vergil wears blue against red, Sasuke wears violet against orange etc).
2) Give them "I don't give a damn" attitude.
3) Give them a Katana.
4) Make them extremely memeable.
5) Done.
I don't know man, umm.. Sesshomaru?
So edgy
Jessie Sewell the thing is shadow isn’t edgy and he’s the most iconic rival in gaming
Jessie Sewell it wasn’t until shadow the hedgehog where sega made him an emo
@@raidoukuzonoha883 Nah, the most iconic rival in gaming is Gary Oak
Vergil is easily the standard by which all other rival characters are judged. Devil May Cry 3’s use of the concept is about as perfect as it gets.
Each of the game’s three acts ends in a duel with Vergil. Dante loses the first encounter rather decisively, the second encounter is on more equal footing, as Dante has caught up to Vergil but ends with no clear winner, and the third encounter ends with Dante victorious after coming to terms with and fully understanding and accepting the responsibility of his lineage.
DMC 3 has been my favorite game since I was in middle school and it came out. I have played so many titles and admittedly there are many great games that have come out since this game, including DMC 5. But this games amazing story and combat always bring me back to it. Vergil is by far my favorite rival/ boss in a video game.
I agree!
Not to mention how his character perfectly contrasts Dante's. It really made me want to beat his ass just to prove who was better, and it's the main reason the character sticks with me still.
You said it perfectly!
Meh... I think mega man and proto man was the blueprint for dante and vergil.
Rivals are the embodiment of the "hang in there, baby" poster, but if the subtitle was "GIT GUD" instead.
I am so pity of you no one respone your comment😁
@Just Some Guy with a Mustache •
At this point, I've decided to like every one of your comments that I see just to encourage you to continue using whatever sorcery it is that allows you to do this.
Hey.... Ive seen you before... You really are everywhere aren't you?
No make it say easy mode is now selectable
I've seen you everywhere, just like your opposite twin
another thing about Jetstream Sam, Raiden has a mask that covers his eyes and is very angular, while Sam has a mask that covers his mouth, and has curves on it.
along with that, they both have a scar on their eyes, the difference being: raiden lost his eye with the attack, while sam didnt, i personally think this has an effect of "i went through the same thing as you, but I did better." if that makes sense
Sam's mask actually represents a bandana, as hes a combination of Samurai and Cowboy.
@@jadenmurray1325 you're both right at the same time
@@jadenmurray1325 Brazilian Samurai Cowboy Double Jump Jetstream Sam
And the eyes exposed show he is more human than the other bosses with their cybernetic enhancementa
And also the fact that Sam is fully organic with very few cyborg enhancements whilst Raiden on the other hand removed almost all of his organic parts in favor of a fully cybernetic body with the only exception that is his face
>playable character
>dmc5
Feels bad man
FRUSTRATION IS GETTING BIGGER
They modded Vergil playable... he's stupidly OP.
@@CornBreadtm1 vid?
@@deathbringer9893 ruclips.net/video/Wt54Vyc_2Bw/видео.html
maybe we get a SE in like 5 years
16:56 "what would be the point of hyping out your rival through out the entire game only to have their fight be an absolute cakewalk"
*Batman: Arkham Knight:* 😨
Yea it was pretty underwhelming. Not that I'd imagine if we did get an actual proper hand to hand boss fight with him it'd be anything to do backflips over as I suppose it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to say the Freeflow combat system was never really built for for one on one battles, hence why Deathstroke's fight in Origins was more or less abit of a QTE fest.
Hope they did that battle like how they did deathstroke in origins
That's a weird way of spelling modern Pokemon.
Bully also suffers from this. By the end of the game, you're facing Gary, the guy who almost single-handedly took over Bullworth and put everybody against you. The problem is that when you get to face him, you are so Overpowered that the final boss of the game, is easiest than the first one. btw english is not my first lenguage so sorry any grammar errors :(.
@@HardRock17
Nah, you got your point across just fine, and I actually agree with you. Even after the game takes away your weapons, by the time you have your final battle against Gary you're already so beefed up from training CQC with the homeless guy that you beat him in less than two minutes.
The color decisions with Bayonetta and Jeanne are really interesting. Having their color scheme be inverted versions of the same colors rather than opposing colors is an excellent way to foreshadow... *SPOILERS*
That they are not truly opposed at all.
DMC3 was the first game that made me want to grind, train, and power up as much as I could. Find all the Blue orbs, Max out the DT gauge, unlock all the combos.
All so you could have that final showdown with Vergil in style. Being able to stay in Devil Trigger as long as he, the Final Boss can, was some hype shit for me.
Funny you say that lol. After all; Might Control Everything :P
I feel exactly the same, except for that I found the Killer Bee method to negate the difficulty of the last Vergil fight on my first run and felt immensely disappointed
Who you telling I wint in on bloody palace to grind all of my skills
@@WOLVERINEDX And without strength, you can't protect anything.
"Being able to stay in Devil Trigger as long as he"
I call hax, there's no way to pull that off without a gameshark.
To comment on Jeanne from Bayonetta, while her default costume and biker outfits are primarily red with black accents, once you get to her final fight or unlock her as a playable character, it's heavily implied that her umbran witch uniform is actually white with blue/purple accents.
which is contrasting again.. black to white and red accents to blueish ones
Their contrast in shape also comes in with the hair and applies in both games: short and long
It's partly because Umbral Witches weave their hair for their magic, and the "outfits" Bayonetta and Jeanne are wearing in their final encounter/playable form are woven from their hair, which is why using their Wicked Weaves and summoning abilities cause their suit to "unravel" off of them. They're literally wearing their hairdo as a bodysuit, and Bayo's hair is black while Jeanne's is white.
There's also the additional overhang of hair/plumage off of their sleeves. Bayonetta's outfit has sharp, straight, angular strips hanging off of her outfit, while Jeanne has fluffier, fuller, and more soft looking plumage-like poofs coming off of her sleeves. There's something to be said about these differences too, as far as appearance tying into their personality.
Yeah, her actual outfit in the last fight is her white Umbra Witch uniform.
foolishness dante
foolishness
Might controls everything
without strengh you cannot protect anything
let alone yourself
*_Show me your motivation_*
The blue coat on Vergil is not only a thing to assume the contrast with Dante. It's a callback of the "Divina Commedia" poem where Dante is usually seen with a red vest and Virgilio (his guide throug hell) with a blue one
I want my harvard study essay on devil may cry....
Same essay "they're really fckin cool"
Result?
He got SSS instead of A+
It's even more amazing to think that Vergil did this in just ONE apparition.
"Fight someone that can fight your skill and performance"
Donguri and sakaki : huh, where can i find games like that
Truestyle tournament i guess.
But its been so long from the last one
Closest game design can come to that is unwinnable boss fights.
More like:
"Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of *TRICKSWORDTRICKROYALGUNSLSWORDTRICK* "
Play ninja gaiden black master ninja difficulty without using ninpo.. you will see hell 😂
Absolutely convinced Donguri is some sort of AI pretending to be a person. No mere mortal can style all over thier opponents that hard.
When I close my ears I swear I can almost hear it...
“Yes! Yes! Split it wide open!!”
Rules of Nature!
@@vergil4855 AND THEY RUN WHEN THE SUN COMES UP
It reminds me of Devilhand, one of the main antagonist in Godhand: the exact opposite of the main character, but waaaay stronger and agile, making you learn to use skills and movesets you actually avoid during the first part of the game since they are harder to master (one of the game's core mechanics lets you build your combo with different style attacks, from pummeling to just kicking, fast or slow and a rage meter) forcing you to leave your confort zone in order to actually defeat him.
Glad somebody remembered that relic. XD
Oh that guy broke me, all right. It made me realize I had to fight him very differently than the others. He actually improved my dodging skills, and after that, as I got better and better at the game, I looked forward to fighting him more and more.
To the point in the second fight against Devil Hand, I always prepared my ultimate finisher.
The BALL BUSTER. Just to rub in the disrespect and flex my Victory.
"Better at the game than you" is my favorite motivator. In CrossCode a rival character challenges the player to a duel and their moveset is identical to the player's, no gimmicks. You literally get to see someone be better than you with your own toolset. I was astounded by the effectiveness of motivation through gameplay.
I love the fact that vergil doesn't have a weak spot an exploitable weakness.
You beat vergil by simply getting better
In regards to how similar protagonists are to their rival in terms of combat, God Hand hits that quite well. The rival has an exact moveset to the main character and possesses the same abilities while staying true to the game's design to its difficulty. The fight is a challenge for newcomers and veterans alike, and it feels just as gratifying to overcome.
MinecrafterK3N yep, I just was thinking about Devil Hand and his awesome fights!
Rivalry is something I wish everyone had. I was always good at math in school, but I never really cared to get perfect scores. Until I met someone who was just as good as me in highschool. We had a friendly rivalry and tried to see who could get better scores on tests.
TLDR; some friendly rivalry can help immensely and better the two individuals
Same with me
Right now in high-school
There is a girl that is very very talented at drawing
And when I say talented I mean it, she can draw a portrait so accurate that I couldn't tell if it was an printed picture or handrawn
And I'm something of a artist myself
But I'm leagues away from her lvl
That made me develop an crush as well as jealousy
And that inspired me to pick up on my artwork
I even made a portrait of Sam and armstrong
They aren't accurate but I give them a pass for proportions
Rival fights are some of my favorite fights in these games. No gimmicks, cool moves on both sides.
This was a very interesting watch, the amount of work you put into it really shows!
Jetstream's backstory also adds, by the fact that he had a similar goal to Raiden after prologue. He tried to takedown World Marshal and Desperado in his DLC, after being critically injured by Armstrong, He knew there wouldn't be any other way to continue without Power, and that he became corrupt to Immediately at realization.
I feel like Asura’s Wrath could’ve been included here as well, with Asura and Yasha being the rivals
I think we all agree that this was just a Vergil Fancam in disguise as an analysis of video game rivals
22:40 i love how he said "motivation" as soon as DMCV vergil popped up
God Hand would have been another excellent game to explore those themes as well. Unfortunately it is nowhere near as popular.
Great work and insight overall!
ahh it needs sequel
@@N0URii We need a Capcom Cult Classics Collection containing God Hand, Viewtiful Joe, and Asura's Wrath.
Dang, I wanna see Asura's Wrath with a proper frame rate and non-pixel-blur textures so bad...
It being unpopular is the greatest injustice
God Hand? Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long while...
*Hey Hey, people*
The Fights Against Azel Are Amazing, and His Theme Is Even More so, It's Sad That The People Here are Only Talking About DMC
I am so desperate for a RE style remake for DMC 3 and a sequel for MGR-Revengeance. Vergil and Jetstream Sam are some of my favorite most boss fights ever. The power and charisma that these dudes exude is legendary. I loved your analysis!
10:35
You could say.... there's no bullshit in this fight.
No minions, no shields, no Monsoon telling me about fucking, Among Us.
It's just you, the sunset, and the S O I L
You should talk about the *"Ocelot Effect"* in Video Games.
I thought i was the only one who thought this. Metal Gear has always been known for it's characters in this way and the dmc story is so similar to MG.
Could you give me a quick explanation?
Could you explain the effect, please?
The *"Ocelot Effect"* is something like this:
1. A Backstabber
2. Master Manipulator
3. True Mastermind
4. The Side of either Good or Bad
5. Great Pretender
6. Testing it's Opponents (Especially the MC)
7. Pathological Liar
8. Double (Triple) Agent
@@joseurbina3835 you forget being really good at spinning revolvers
22:41 Vergil: Did someone say...motivation?
The VA-11 HALL-A soundtrack in the back is just the best.
Damn dude that's some clever editing at 17:44, I love it
This channel is criminally underrated.
Jetstream Sam is my favorite fictional character *period*. He's just the most charismatic creature in existence, it's actually impossible to hate him. I usually don't really have strong reactions to character's deaths in media but I actually cried when he died.
7:50 Ragna: HEEEEYYY IM NOT STUPID!!!!!
Jin: You can call me what you like, that will not change the fact that trash will always be so...
*Stares at Noel*
I know they're not video game characters, technically, but Ryuko Matoi and Satsuki Kiryuin from Kill La Kill totally fit everything you said in this video and I think are a good example.
Sam: "Just a dude with a Katana and a cyber arm"
Raiden: "A dude almost a robot with a Katana"
The best part about Vergil being a rival is that his moves aren’t exactly the same as the main character.
Nero and Dante in DMC 4. All the time I felt like I'm battling two protagonists.
But it isn't a rival relationship. It's a mentor student relationship.
@@tannertadlock7741 It's rivalal at first. Initially, all Nero sees is this "Dante" guy going around committing murder.
@@Lugbzurg From Nero's pov, perhaps. But in DMC4, Dante never took Nero (or anyone else in the game) seriously; he was in another league from everyone and everything else in that arc.
Kyle: The rival makes you want to be better and discover.
Me: Almost threw my controller into my monitor for like 10x times at the end of DMC3 and DMC5.
Telltale sign of a Rival: the first time you fight them, they slowly walk towards you. Works every time.
An underrated personal favorite Rival character from a non-character action source: Daisaku Kuze from Yakuza Zero. He doesn't tick most of the boxes (no backstory, no relationship with your character, moveset that doesn't mirror the character's, no color coding), but his absolutely dogged determination to fight Kiryu coupled with his utterly outstanding theme (and remix thereof) have him on my list of favorites.
yakuza is a character action tho, past kiwami 1, 3, and 6. every single game has another main character take the spotlight(majima, akiyama, and all that stuff).
I think Kuze works as well as he does because he has no similarities to Kiryu. Kuze looks at Kiryu and initially thinks he is a cowardly weakling who keeps using cheap tactics to just disrespect the old Yakuza code that Kuze lives and breathes. But, as the story goes on, Kuze comes to realize that Kiryu has his own strong code of ethics that he will not compromise, and it culminates in Kuze finally ceding that Kiryu is an equal, if not better man than he is.
Was looking for somebody to mention either Kuze or Goda.
MGR:- Parry
Bayonetta:- Dodge
DMC:- Hehe *R O Y A L G U A R D*
Loved this video. And character rivalries are my favourite thing. Specially when done right, with character designs and concepts are perfectly mirroring each other. I've seen it in games, animes and books several times now, and I love it every time.
Think Alucard and Anderson, or even Naruto and Sasuke. Arjuna and Karna from Fate are also one of my favourites. There are more out there, but they are always great additions to the story.
I will say. Jetstream Sam is a Really Good Rival. His fight even Motivated me to get a S Rank against him. Took me a hour or so of just listening to "The Only Thing I Know For Real" and hearing Sam trash talk me over and over. Also me trying to Parry Perfectly each time while trying to not get hit. Also trying to Predict his Movements and what he will do. It felt amazing after getting through his 3rd Phase and actually seeing those two buttons that I needed to Press. Y and B. It felt amazing
I don't usually give likes, but this deserves it, Im a HUGE fan of MGR and Dmc, and honestly, you nailed the entire video, (I'm not English sorry) thank you so much for give this gift to the yt community :)
11:53 my favorite shot from DMC3. Virgil had no reason to point the blade at Dante but did it anyway for the hell of it... Almost as if to say "look how perfectly I landed away from you"
And don’t forget the amazing boss fight music!
When you knock the Sword out of Sams Hand and He just doesn't give a fuck and Fights you without it, that's so badass
Okay but this analysis? Really great work man
“Be quick and ruthless” *Dante uses quicksilver*
This video made me feel MOTIVATED into developing my own fiction and Characters. Thanks for educating 👍🏻
Also, in the case of jetstream Sam, the "out of tone design" Made him Even more compeling... What i mean is that, every enemy and Even raiden seem like an averrage japanese shonen desing... While jetstream Sam looks like a Gantz character, Even that weird smile he has feels out of those with the overall design of the Game.
Can you explain what you mean by a ghantz design?
@@derpfluidvariant0916 Google it dude, its not that hard.
11:25 ok so just small correction, Dante has proven time after time he is actually pretty intelligent, as he was a private detective.
You can be both wicked-smart and super stupid. Believe me, I've seen it.
@@bluethunderbolt9631 I am living proof of that statement
There's a fine line between genius and stupidity~
and Dante is moonwalking on that "fine line"~
@@DianaProudmoore Underrated comment.
You know what always made Vergil such a good rival to me? Simple, as far as I knew, Dante had no equal, ever, his power was peak, then along comes this asshole wielding the ultimate weeb sword and he kicks my ass into next week
LOL
This is hilariously true😂
Saying weeb deflats your comment impact.
@@stardustdragonx3612I disagree, the point is still there.
And what is more weeb than an overclocked katana that cuts through stuff it shouldn’t? Like *TIME AND SPACE*
The Katana isn’t a bad sword by any stretch of the imagination, but this is silly strength.
DMC3 was the first hack n slash where I was glued to the story. Its still the genre defining title that changed how they were made. It brought the genre into the next generations. We need another genre changer. MGS could have been that, but it was so specific in style nobody would want to copy it, and it being what it is, a substitute would not do
I always liked “villain” characters. They have their own atmosphere and personality. No wonder that one of my favourite
"Where's your motivation?"
The amount of “POWER” and “MOTIVATION” in this video motivates me.
10:37 "just a dude with a katana, same as you"
Isn't (after the prologue) Raidens entire body so extremely augmented to the point where he basically is just a robot with a human head?
Sorry to necro this, but it’s not even a full head. It’s literally just his brain, hair, and like, 1/2 of his head’s skin.
@@winsonlu3559 actually, he has a wig that's almost identical to his original hair (hence the infinite wigs A, B and Blade Mode)
I'm pretty sure that Raiden is only a brain at this point and his head (and later body) is just covered in artificial skin.
@@VeraVemaVena that would explain why his head doesn’t get popped like a balloon against Armstrong
22:29 *fighting shirtless in the rain
Also did this video get recommended to everyone on youtube yesterday?
i was reading the comments expecting to see someone write that at some point, and i was not disappointed lol
appear today when I watch Chinese anime lol
SupermewX300 I mean Dante was the only one shirtless
@@Wildcard-Jack-47 it's an inside joke between fans of a beloved, albeit now dead, channel. RIP Super Best Friends Play.
This vid allowed me to search thru many ideas just to create a character, a perfect rival for my main character. It helped me a lot and I thank you for it. This made me subscribe to your channel too. Thank you again!
14:30
No, the vanguard demon had just 3 HP left, that's all
This was a pretty grest video. Being the starfox fan that I am, my favorite rivalry is Fox McCloud vs Wolf O' Donald
Really good archetype video game analysis video. Anything with Devil May Cry in it can NEVER go wrong
I love the halo music in this automatically 10/10
19:13 "Your first fight is an introduction to the rival mechanically. They have a watered down move set to better reflect the state of your move list."
Kiwami 1 Majima: Oh was I supposed to be holding back?
Dante makes fun and the one that makes the jokes
Vergil is the one that returns it by making a sarcastic or clever reply
Great video, I realize some things that I didn't in those game related to why the rivals are so compelling, and why Vergil is so emblematic in the genre, and now I know why Devil may Cry is my favourite character action franchise.
"He is not only more powerful than you, but also, he is better at this game than you are" killed me. When I first played DMC 3, it was my first DMC experience too, I didn't die to the Hell Vanguard, but it did took like, 10 minutes to kill + the Life Star you get at the start of the mission
Great content and awesome music selection! When I heard the Va11Halla soundtrack I was sold hahaha
Thank you for making this dude, I always love seeing people break down the complexity of game design and comment on what makes a game good.
Virgil in DMC 5 is probably one of my favourite fights in any game I've played this gen.
Vergil is the Jordan of rival characters. There I said it...
I've been putting watching this off, because of all the Vergil videos I've seen, but it seems this is very special compared to all the others. I feel like I came out a lot wiser.
Trainer Red & Rival Blue from Pokemon fits this video philosophy very well. Having him be your tutorial/early battle & final boss battle makes it hard to forget that character
Very good video man! Thx for the advise and showing how awesome videogame rivalries are
I'd like to imagine a Pokemon Rival based on the Virgil effect
Hi, I think this is a really good video. Just 2 quick criticisms:
I used to think the complimentary color to blue was red, but after I took a color theory class, I learned that it’s actually green.
The other one is more of a matter of opinion: I don’t think that Dante is an idiot, I think he’s actually incredibly smart. I think Dante is more reactionary where Vergil is more calculated.
But this was an awesome video. I learned a lot from it! And now I’m subscribed!
Endless Road Good call!
Don't you mean "responsive" rather than reactionary? Would you agree that Dante is more egalitarian, laid back and not caring about hierarchies in power and standing, whereas Virgil is all about ascending in a power hierarchy and looking down on those who refuse to. This makes me identify Virgil much more with the aristocracy of old (also see the long leather boots he wears) and Dante more with modern Rock stars generation.
A duality "initiating a complex scheme" (calculating) versus "responsive to the surroundings" is probably a better opposition than "calculating versus reactionary".
Sid Lukkassen Sure. Responsive works. And yeah, I absolutely agree.
From Wiki:
Which pairs of colors are considered complementary depends on the color theory one uses:
Modern color theory uses either the RGB additive color model or the CMY subtractive color model, and in these, the complementary pairs are red-cyan, green-magenta, and blue-yellow.
In the traditional RYB color model, the complementary color pairs are red-green, yellow-purple, and blue-orange.
Opponent process theory suggests that the most contrasting color pairs are red-green, and blue-yellow.
So while red-green is complimentary that doesn't mean red-blue (well, "red-cyan" but cyan is just light blue anyway) is not.
@@Sid_Streams So many words to just say "calculating vs reactionary." Dante's character is very much reactionary in the way he lives life a point he drives home for us in the original Devil May Cry. The only time he is proactive about his job is when it specifically involves cleaning up after his father.
The punk rock/metal counter culture was a reaction to the societal attempts to quash the rock and metal genres, including the people in them. To be reactionary is to be revolutionary which is why every major story of Dante is to overthrow some self-important, power hoarding, tyrant with a Sparda-boner (Arkham, Arius, Mundas, Sanctus). If that includes his own brother, which is does, then so be it.
Vergil is so powerful, he even effects the real world. Does that mean that real life is just another world in the Vergilverse?
Step One: make him not pay child support
Step two: Plastic chair enjoyer~
Subscribed! My love of Vergil and final bosses has grown after this video! Very informative and the type of analization I need for my own type of stories. Thank you, DDC
3:05 "Don't want the to feel over powered 8n the late game"
Me playing as Vergil in Dmc 3 and 4: oh no, anyway
This video is amazing. It lacks a highly forgotten, but good game. The godhand had an amazing rival with similar moveset, that was actually amazing to fight in that game combat system.
The angle and mechanics of the combat system in that game made the fights with the rival really personal and good.
Also the sa-x from metroid fusion feels so good as a rival.
Here’s another good example of a rival: the edge from furi.
Although he isn’t met early on your still already aware that he will be a challenge due to his placement as one of the last jailers in the game. During the walking sequence he gets hyped up by the voice. When you enter the fight you see his colour scheme is similar to the player. He’s primarily red in energy while the main character is primarily blue in energy. When the fight begins you see he also uses a katana which shows he is similar to the player. However half way through the fight the edge shows how much better he is by using a boat oar as a weapon yet be more difficult. The fight actually pushes the players to their limit for the melee combat and rewards you by revealing that he was the strongest jailer
Thank you for that, now I'm feeling a little *motivated*.
It's awesome how you point out that Vergil is the character that upped expectations. Especially due to his triumphant return in DMC 5 where he is named the "Alpha and the Omega" he really is the beginning and the end of rival characters 🤣