"The BBC Is Prejudiced!" | Lisa Nandy Considers Scrapping BBC Licence Fee By 2027

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  • Опубликовано: 27 янв 2025
  • Talk's Kevin O'Sullivan reacts to Lisa Nandy reportedly contemplating the abolition of the BBC licence fee when the Corporation's current charter expires in December 2027, proposing its replacement with a new tax.
    Under the proposed plans, the Culture Secretary is said to favor transforming the BBC into a mutual organization, granting the public direct control and ownership of the corporation.
    Kevin says: "We should have the choice whether to pay for the BBC"
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Комментарии • 287

  • @johnm5889
    @johnm5889 13 дней назад +167

    Why should we pay for BBC WOKE

    • @joffey1212
      @joffey1212 13 дней назад +21

      Sensible people dont

    • @PhilipCooke-j1d
      @PhilipCooke-j1d 13 дней назад

      Go sign the petition on petition uk.

    • @3879keith
      @3879keith 13 дней назад

      and the BBC misinformation expert (Marianna Springs own words)......... BBC verify

  • @grahamsmith8091
    @grahamsmith8091 13 дней назад +92

    I dont pay for the BBC and I don't want to pay for the BBC. Let it find it's own funding method.

    • @fpvDRE
      @fpvDRE 10 дней назад

      dont lie graham

  • @frederickstjohn8069
    @frederickstjohn8069 13 дней назад +64

    "If the BBC had been doing It's job properly we wouldn't be having this argument".
    Isn't that the truth!

  • @rontaylor995
    @rontaylor995 13 дней назад +89

    Just scrap the BBC.

  • @davet4999
    @davet4999 13 дней назад +125

    Cancel the BBC

    • @REFORM_ALL_THE_WAY
      @REFORM_ALL_THE_WAY 13 дней назад +15

      If they're so good, then they can earn their crust like every other channel. There's nothing on the BBC I'll pay for. Cancel your licence fees folks and get rid of this hard left mouthpiece and nonce apologist.

    • @boots73ca
      @boots73ca 13 дней назад +9

      @@REFORM_ALL_THE_WAYcommies

    • @PhilipCooke-j1d
      @PhilipCooke-j1d 13 дней назад

      Go sign the petition on petition uk

  • @AnnieC-mc3cv
    @AnnieC-mc3cv 13 дней назад +68

    How dare she. No no more paying for woke BBC propaganda.

  • @johndean1634
    @johndean1634 13 дней назад +39

    Maybe we should consider removing Lisa Nandy.

  • @amandabell8827
    @amandabell8827 13 дней назад +77

    Many have lived without the BBC for years, why should they pay for a service they don't use?!! Would you pay bus fare but walk to your destination?!!

    • @PhilipCooke-j1d
      @PhilipCooke-j1d 13 дней назад

      Go sign the petition on petition uk

    • @PaddyWhite-n3f
      @PaddyWhite-n3f 13 дней назад +5

      Good analogy

    • @rickbear7249
      @rickbear7249 13 дней назад +1

      Unfortunately, that's actually what we already do.

    • @wjf0ne
      @wjf0ne 13 дней назад +2

      @amandabell8827
      You could argue, why do healthy people pay for an NHS they don't use?
      The answer to that would be, you never know when you may need it.
      Unfortunately the BBC isn't in that category as there will never be an occasion that we would only have the BBC to fall back on as they use the same transmission facilities as all the rest and I'm sure they are no more immune to an electromagnetic pulse than all the rest, when the proverbial hits the fan, and neither are their staff more dedicated and determined to crawl from some young boys bed to fight through the rubble to give us the news that we are doomed.

    • @amandabell8827
      @amandabell8827 13 дней назад

      @@rickbear7249 I don't.

  • @magsathome65
    @magsathome65 13 дней назад +76

    Lisa Nandy is as woke as the rest of this government. Smoke and mirrors.

    • @PhilipCooke-j1d
      @PhilipCooke-j1d 13 дней назад

      Go sign the petition on petition uk and tell you friends to do the same.

    • @jasoncooper1728
      @jasoncooper1728 13 дней назад

      What would Reform do 😂😂😂NOTHING IS THE ANSWER

  • @bill-2018
    @bill-2018 13 дней назад +58

    I chose to get rid of my t.v. 25 years ago so why should I pay for something I don't use?
    It's extortion.

    • @C2K777
      @C2K777 13 дней назад +4

      Legally you're welcome to get a new one. Just don't use iPlayer or watch anything that's a 'Live' broadcast. You don't need a license to watch TV. Just to watch the BBC

    • @g--666--g
      @g--666--g 13 дней назад +2

      @@C2K777 the point he is making is you will be taxed if you have a tv or not....probably whack it onto your council tax or something.

    • @bill-2018
      @bill-2018 13 дней назад

      @
      I got rid of one.
      Why would I want another?

  • @makalu69
    @makalu69 13 дней назад +34

    Forcing someone to part with cash against their will has a name - its called 'theft' and it used to come with a prison sentence.

  • @chrisaris8756
    @chrisaris8756 13 дней назад +41

    Not only should licence fee be scrapped but more importantly the BBC should be scrapped.

  • @AnnieC-mc3cv
    @AnnieC-mc3cv 13 дней назад +55

    Why do we have to pay for the BBC?

  • @jacobcohen-p2t
    @jacobcohen-p2t 13 дней назад +78

    The BBC is prejudiced! Is this news to anybody?

    • @vatsmith8759
      @vatsmith8759 13 дней назад

      All media is prejudiced in one way or another.

    • @spokes1018
      @spokes1018 13 дней назад

      ​@vatsmith8759 and if you don't agree with it you don't have to watch it.

    • @jacobcohen-p2t
      @jacobcohen-p2t 13 дней назад

      @@spokes1018 True, enough. However, News, especially from a state-funded source is supposed to be presented without bias It has a care of duty to ensure it remains unbiased and balanced in its reporting of 'events'.
      This is far from the case. So, why should I have to turn it off to suit the programmer's bias? I pay their wages and it's not on.

    • @spokes1018
      @spokes1018 13 дней назад

      @jacobcohen-p2t that is where I differ, I cancelled my licence nearly five years ago, I have not watched live tv since, and I feel like it was the best thing I did for my health, after giving up smoking that is.

  • @johnorourke1636
    @johnorourke1636 13 дней назад +28

    I stopped watching the BBC a couple of years ago. I use my TV for RUclips and the occasional DVD. I do not owe them any money.

  • @davet4999
    @davet4999 13 дней назад +55

    No more pretence of being an actual broadcaster.

  • @robinburn4974
    @robinburn4974 13 дней назад +26

    Labour will never damage their mouthpiece

  • @thamesmud
    @thamesmud 13 дней назад +35

    The BBC is not a state broadcaster, it is a broadcaster in a state ( of decline ).

  • @jamess6961
    @jamess6961 13 дней назад +27

    She’ll put it on council tax and they’ll end up with double what they get now 😡 pure piss take.!

  • @DavidGetling
    @DavidGetling 13 дней назад +24

    Surely being against white people, and the traditional values that once made this country great, can't be called prejudiced.

  • @cblack1green
    @cblack1green 13 дней назад +33

    The BBC will back any Government that lets them keep the licence fee going

    • @PaddyWhite-n3f
      @PaddyWhite-n3f 13 дней назад +1

      Same in Ireland, say no to this load of billix

  • @martingibbs1869
    @martingibbs1869 13 дней назад +30

    I refuse to pay for my own brainwashing thankyou very much.

  • @fish4fun84
    @fish4fun84 13 дней назад +37

    She is saving the BBC then.

  • @christophersimons9507
    @christophersimons9507 13 дней назад +24

    I tell you what I will pay the licence when the BBC start paying all their employees £30k a year like most of us have to live on. People reading autocues being paid 10 times what a GP earns !!

    • @purdi-ur3np
      @purdi-ur3np 13 дней назад +2

      £30,000 a year😮. You don't get that sort of high pay in Cornwall. We're on a lot less than that 😮

    •  13 дней назад +1

      Well said! They pay their presenters ridiculous fees. They’re not brain surgeons!

  • @michaelenglish2066
    @michaelenglish2066 13 дней назад +20

    shut it down ....problem solved !!!

  • @Stephanie-ff6vb
    @Stephanie-ff6vb 13 дней назад +27

    ‘The impartiality of Judges’ I question the very existence of this now.

  • @Dungshoveleux
    @Dungshoveleux 13 дней назад +26

    Subscription only model with delivery via iplayer for EVERYTHING. Forcing people to pay for something they do not want is not going to work.

  • @charlottedixon6052
    @charlottedixon6052 13 дней назад +11

    The thing is that i don’t particularly want to pay anyone £170 odd a year to blatantly treat me as though i am not an informed, intelligent person capable of making up my own mind.

  • @carolecole1641
    @carolecole1641 13 дней назад +61

    They should be like the ITV and the rest.

    • @Itsnotsafeandeffective
      @Itsnotsafeandeffective 13 дней назад

      @carolecole1641 The government can't programme you without BBC. Remember not just tv radio and World radio all telling you the chosen narrative.

    • @fraggit
      @fraggit 13 дней назад

      But you require a tv licence to watch any live channel, not just the BBC.

    • @robertanton1862
      @robertanton1862 13 дней назад

      ​@@fraggit this is pure (lawfully) theft
      I ONLY watch FOREIGN (as in from outside the UK) live TV, and I have to pay BBC

    • @robertanton1862
      @robertanton1862 13 дней назад

      @@fraggit this is pure (lawfully) theft
      I ONLY watch FOREIGN (as in from outside the UK) live TV, and I have to pay BBC

    • @runstyle253
      @runstyle253 13 дней назад

      ITV and the rest get their funding from advertising and receive NOT! a penny from the licence fee. The BBC keeps it all. Yes, that's shocking, although you need the licence to watch ITV,4,5, and Freeview. Doesn't make sense.

  • @yellowperilbiker
    @yellowperilbiker 13 дней назад +17

    BBC should have been made to go free trade about 30 years ago. If they are so fabulous they would pay their way. Why should we all pay a special tax for something most young people never watch.

    •  13 дней назад +1

      Well said! My 20s something grandchildren and their friends don’t watch television.

  • @rottenbeggar
    @rottenbeggar 13 дней назад +26

    Bent Broadcasting Company won't pay!don't pay propaganda tax!

  • @JackFrost-w6x
    @JackFrost-w6x 13 дней назад +38

    Scrapping the BBC licence would be a public service !

    • @tims9434
      @tims9434 13 дней назад

      But not taxing in other ways. Watch the clip before commenting

  • @andrewturner5449
    @andrewturner5449 13 дней назад +21

    Scrap licence,pay to veiw,i pay more for bbc than netflix.

  • @MyMargo111
    @MyMargo111 13 дней назад +14

    Haven’t watched the BBC for years.

  • @brundelfly1
    @brundelfly1 13 дней назад +16

    That's right Nandy; make the state broadcaster even more enthral to the Government 🙄

  • @Stevey-s2e
    @Stevey-s2e 13 дней назад +17

    The BBC shoukd be a pay per view broadcaster.
    Just lije sky tv and NOT ran on tax payers money.

  • @djmattblack
    @djmattblack 13 дней назад +11

    My big argument with the license fee is that you have to pay it just to watch ANY live TV even though only the BBC actually benefits from the license fee. Why should i have to pay the license fee if i want to watch ITV on a Saturday night even though ITV is already funded by adverts. If people are willing to pay for the BBC let them, lets see if theres enough demand for their services and if not let them find another way to fund themselves

  • @Stevey-s2e
    @Stevey-s2e 13 дней назад +15

    It will take more than scrapping the tv licence fee to pull this labour government out the Brown stuff!!

  • @David-kp5mp
    @David-kp5mp 13 дней назад +14

    Don't pay it , it never have and never will.

  • @scousiered3124
    @scousiered3124 13 дней назад +17

    That's a lot of tax from 'We won't increase tax' Labour.

  • @aspman8965
    @aspman8965 13 дней назад +12

    The independent BBC sponsored by Bill Gates

  • @nickeastonline
    @nickeastonline 13 дней назад +14

    The government will do the same thing as Sweden did when Swedish people stopped paying the license. They took the license fee from tax people pay .

  • @thamesmud
    @thamesmud 13 дней назад +18

    If it's such wonderful value just make it a subscription service and it will thrive.

  • @LeadsTheFallen
    @LeadsTheFallen 13 дней назад +20

    Just deduct the difference from your council tax

    • @timg1246
      @timg1246 13 дней назад

      I will. So, councilsvwill fight tooth and nail not to have that.
      Which is why it will go on income tax.

  • @danielryan2317
    @danielryan2317 13 дней назад +22

    Sack sack sack

  • @thamesmud
    @thamesmud 13 дней назад +12

    Recruitment to the BBC is diverse in everything apart from the requirement to a Guardian reading lefty lovey.

  • @stuartalexander1595
    @stuartalexander1595 13 дней назад +6

    We should have the choice.

  • @NobbingNobby
    @NobbingNobby 13 дней назад +6

    Just make the BBC a subscription service. They’re currently restoring the Eric Gill (who was a pdf file) sculpture fronting Broadcasting House. Why should I pay for this? I don’t pay for Sky News or ITN.

  • @jamiejones642
    @jamiejones642 13 дней назад +10

    Cancel the bbc

  • @mattanderson6672
    @mattanderson6672 9 дней назад +1

    Defund the BBC
    Fantastic discussion
    Excellent analysis Rob
    Thank you Sir
    Well said!!
    I always love listening to you Kev
    Thank You Gentlemen
    Love Talk TV!! Great show!!

  • @ExpressoMechanicTV
    @ExpressoMechanicTV 13 дней назад +2

    Nobody should be forced to pay for something they don't use. If the license fee goes it should be replaced with a subscription service of some kind.

  • @Wasssssup-3
    @Wasssssup-3 13 дней назад +14

    They could give it away for free ,I still won't watch the British Bullshitter cooperative , or sly news , channel 4 no more 🤔

  • @AndyP-b9z
    @AndyP-b9z 13 дней назад +7

    British Commy Consortium

  • @uppyraptor49
    @uppyraptor49 9 дней назад +1

    Not at all its not trust, its just i dont want to pay for something that is forced on me, i have NEVER wanted to pay. Who the hell do they think they are?

  • @richie18898
    @richie18898 13 дней назад +5

    What about the other side of the BBC outside the uk

  • @georgedavidson957
    @georgedavidson957 13 дней назад +5

    i do not want to pay hard earned money to an organization for services that I DO NOT USE. they do not supply anything I want. I will not be talked down to. I reject their lies and propaganda. Their product is shoddy and I will not pay for it.

  •  13 дней назад +2

    Good grief! What next!

  • @MrWannabeartist
    @MrWannabeartist 13 дней назад +4

    That's history!

  • @RonaldShea5680
    @RonaldShea5680 11 дней назад +1

    Millions of British households no longer pay the bbc poll tax, why should YOU?

  • @JustmeandB
    @JustmeandB 12 дней назад +1

    If I don’t watch it why should I pay for it…..? That’s extortion….

  • @petercaulf
    @petercaulf 10 дней назад +1

    It's not just the BBC though is it! We're paying for the "right" to watch all the other channels too, whilst the BBC gets all the money!

  • @RonaldShea5680
    @RonaldShea5680 11 дней назад +1

    Millions of British households no longer pay the bbc poll tax, why not join them?

  • @fuzzacker.
    @fuzzacker. 10 дней назад +1

    The TV licence is the only way we have of opting in or out. People have been campaigning for years, calling for the defunding of the BBC, making it go the way of subscription or adverts. But many have also said leave well enough alone, better the devil you know. Now it looks like we could all be paying, even if we never watch live TV or don't even own one. No licence no freedom of choice.

  • @derekashenden9789
    @derekashenden9789 13 дней назад +1

    This happened in Italy. Most Italians did not pay there TV licence so the government put the license fee into energy bills, hence every Italian now pays a tv liceine,

  • @YvonnePowell-tz7vb
    @YvonnePowell-tz7vb 13 дней назад +1

    The reason they don't want to change to a subscription service is because no one would subscribe

  • @xabre9995
    @xabre9995 13 дней назад +1

    I flat out do not want to fund the BBC.

  • @bobblehaveago
    @bobblehaveago 11 дней назад +1

    Why don't they just run ads like everyone else

  • @ep1929
    @ep1929 13 дней назад +1

    How come they class anyone who watches non bbc catchup, youtube etc as an "evader"?

  • @Michael-r2c8k
    @Michael-r2c8k 12 дней назад +2

    The BBC should pay it's own way. Too long have we had to pay for over hyped nonentities

  • @johncale7139
    @johncale7139 12 дней назад +1

    That would be just what the bbc wanted

  • @danielryan2317
    @danielryan2317 13 дней назад +7

    Demanding money with menace',against the law for the kray twins not bandy nandy

  • @ianashton1593
    @ianashton1593 13 дней назад +3

    It would be like having to pay VED if you don’t own a car. They know it won’t survive if it’s subscription based so just close it down.

  • @patricktracey7424
    @patricktracey7424 9 дней назад +1

    they will just reinstate it under another tax via the councils or broadband suppliers just change the name.

  • @marshgatelaneposse
    @marshgatelaneposse 13 дней назад +3

    What on earth is on the BBC that anyone really wants to watch just propaganda

  • @chatboy25
    @chatboy25 13 дней назад +3

    The problem with the BBC is the News and Current Affairs department. They do a good job supporting the Arts (Promenade Concerts, Orchestras, Radio 3 are examples), Drama, Sports like Wimbledon, and Natural History, Unfortunately, it's the bias in the News and Current Affairs output that overshadows everything else. They confuse reporting news with giving opinion. A senior BBC executive said he didn't know there was a difference between news and opinion., which sums up the BBC. Popular programmes would survive being subscription only, but the more minority interest output would not be viable by subscription. Whether the BBC could apply for funding from (for example the Arts Council) to make such programmes might be part of the solution.

  • @sheilak7806
    @sheilak7806 13 дней назад +3

    Can't listen to this man Robin Aitken! We don't want to pay for a licence - I never watch the BBC! But have to pay for this biased lot. The over 75s used not to have to pay, but the BBC changed this and now poor pensioners are forced to pay as TV is their only means of entertainment. Disgraceful!

  • @RonaldShea5680
    @RonaldShea5680 11 дней назад +1

    The Labour party absolutely adores the bbc and vice versa.

  • @iaindennis3321
    @iaindennis3321 13 дней назад +1

    I stopped paying my license fee, because we have taken control the government want to remove my choice. - no

  • @Mavcj01
    @Mavcj01 13 дней назад +1

    If the BBC get this tax then surely every broadcasting station should also get the tax.
    Easier to just scrap the BBC as its not fit for public viewing anyway.

  • @dominicangelone2540
    @dominicangelone2540 11 дней назад +1

    Decriminalisation is the answer. Stop making it a crime for not having a licence and watching live tv

  • @iancrossley5768
    @iancrossley5768 13 дней назад +1

    I've been waiting for this. I reckon they will add the fee to council tax so everyone had to pay for the awful BBC

  • @barbaraaimson2100
    @barbaraaimson2100 13 дней назад +3

    Scrapit and dont tax us. See how they do without our money

  • @michaelfarrow3914
    @michaelfarrow3914 13 дней назад +1

    Kevin if yoou were at the bbc I would be much happier about paying for it

  • @wjf0ne
    @wjf0ne 13 дней назад +1

    Where are the commercial channels on this matter? When people drop their TV license because of the BBC the commercial channels lose out on live transmission viewers too.
    Would anyone pay Tesco a fee to allow them to shop in Aldi. This BBC Dane geld payments must stop before they ruin what is left of TV.
    The BBC is no longer a shining star in the firmament of TV channels, it's simply the floater that refuses to flush.

    • @robtheplod
      @robtheplod 12 дней назад

      Commercial channels stay quiet as they dont want the bbc to take adverts.

  • @Jimmy-ew2xe
    @Jimmy-ew2xe 13 дней назад +2

    Maybes they could just become honest instead of biased!

    • @robtheplod
      @robtheplod 12 дней назад +1

      They cant... they are controlled by government! 😅

  • @reevessairgunningreviews5572
    @reevessairgunningreviews5572 13 дней назад +1

    BBC is a state broadcaster as is C4. Make them fund themselves by advertising, like C4

  • @mh060168
    @mh060168 13 дней назад +2

    In one of the most newsworthy week in politics the BBC News homepage seemed not to notice. If the National Press had last weeks issues on the front pages why didn't the BBC? Which is the bigger story, Meghan Markle's new Netflix series, the Rape Gangs or Economic Chaos? Guess which was considered newsworthy.
    It is insane that you need a TV Licence to watch any Live Broadcasts even if it has nothing to do with the BBC. I have a licence so I can watch things like TalkTV. We live in a time when anyone with a phone can output a Live Broadcast.
    There is already a Login for the BBC that provides extra functionality and protects Premium Content. Put all the stuff the you feel should be chargeable behind this and charge however you like, but please remove the ridiculous "Live Broadcast" criteria.

  • @chrisburton8079
    @chrisburton8079 13 дней назад +1

    Cancelled my TV license. I couldn’t stand the woke nonsense spewing out from the BBC any longer and I certainly wasn’t going to pay to have it being spewed out.

  • @PaulWrigh
    @PaulWrigh 13 дней назад +1

    Should be for the people who pay this ridiculous licence to decide. I never watch any BBC output .so many other channels offering much better programs

  • @Bindersandcash19
    @Bindersandcash19 13 дней назад +1

    Have bloody adverts like anyone else they are a fog horn for labour

  • @dscotia
    @dscotia 13 дней назад +1

    But why would you need to pay for the BBC programmes when they already syndicate them to Netflix, ITVX and others.
    The reality isn't the actual cost of the licence its the outrageous fact that you are paying the BBC to watch live TV. TV which by it's nature now is more likely to be a different channel and NOT the BBC.
    ps as for caveats🤗
    The BBC has U (formerly known as UKTV), BritBox, BBC Studios (which is claimed as independent from the licence fee) which offers TV to the rest of the World 🌎🌍 programmes that were initially produced using Licence Fee money.
    Old Terry Wogan would say satirically, "It's your BBC"
    The TV Licence is nothing more than a business plan we would all like to have, a steady income with no worries, your bank manager would love you.

  • @Galerak1
    @Galerak1 13 дней назад +1

    "Lisa Nandy Considers Scrapping BBC Licence Fee By 2027" - Well that's utter BS for a start. Their current charter doesn't expire till 31st December 2027 so there's no way she can scrap it' before that date. She may be able to scrap it on the first day of 2028.... but that aint "by 2027" is it?
    And besides, if the position of Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport is handed to somebody else before that date there'll be a whole new set of 'ideas' that will come into play and what Nandy decides won't even matter.

    • @robtheplod
      @robtheplod 12 дней назад

      Its almost like lisa nandy is irrelevent and cant make changes.... sssssshhhhhh she wont thank you for that as she struggkes to fill her time! 😅

  • @davidnichols1413
    @davidnichols1413 13 дней назад +2

    Don’t own a Television ! So would I have to pay for something I don’t have nor want ! Sell the BBC to the Chinese ! 💕

    • @LGlifeisgood
      @LGlifeisgood 13 дней назад +2

      They don’t even class it as a tv license because it counts if it’s a pc monitor or a tablet or phone , you just don’t need a tv , that’s the scam

    • @robtheplod
      @robtheplod 12 дней назад +2

      Ill informed... you can fill your house with TV's and not need a licence.... its what you use them for that counts!

  • @peterarmstrong2048
    @peterarmstrong2048 13 дней назад +1

    Never watched bbcorrupt for over 5 years there a disgrace

  • @Diane53M
    @Diane53M 13 дней назад +3

    I thought you had to pay TV licence regardless of what channel you watched?

    • @robtheplod
      @robtheplod 12 дней назад

      Only live tv.... watch catchup only and dont use iplayer and you dont need to pay...

  • @derekashenden9789
    @derekashenden9789 13 дней назад +1

    Technology is the answer if you have not paid for your TV licence it’s simple to block the BBC signal.

  • @bexhill8777
    @bexhill8777 13 дней назад +1

    not about 'impartial' 'programing'! look up the word, if we can switch-out from "the telly" we are NOT programed and we cant have our opinions "in-formed" and are free to FORM our own views. we can again 'have eyes to see and ears to hear' or 'hear no lies,see no lies,speak no lies '.

  • @Philz4p
    @Philz4p 13 дней назад +1

    As well as getting rid of the bbc tax get rid of nandy pandy as well.

  • @tims9434
    @tims9434 13 дней назад +1

    I spoke to someone the other day insisted the BBC is right wing. I don't wish to speak to stupid people who are delusional

  • @kevinjames632
    @kevinjames632 13 дней назад +5

    If I got to work to pay the bbc I will jump on to universal credit and refuse to work

    • @danielryan2317
      @danielryan2317 13 дней назад +2

      You will still pay,you still won't have a choice and you will be even skinter