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I love your passion for the project but at the moment, both Minas Tirith and Helms Deep are far too grindy and difficult for a casual experience on medium. The game plays fine overal at the post of this comment on every mission besides these two. If you guys could tweak the difficulty to be slightly less on lesser difficulties, and perhaps focusing on the scale of both armies for a fun experience instead of buffing the AI to unfair levels. Fixing this would make me want to continue playing the game. It would be better if with every wave the armies get more and more challenging instead of starting at 200%. Basic orc archers one shotting fully upgraded gondorian archers? Seriously? I get you guys want a challange but dont make it unplayable. At the current state of the game you have to cheese and play like a sweat to win.
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this is so freaking good
I played the newer version with 1000 command points on hard and beat it after 6 tries. It was far too hard and annoying, I didn't have any fun playing it. The catapults range was retarded and the level 10 orc archers and constant armies of trolls were just too much. I had to cheese by camping on the second level and got lucky with some gondor knight raids on the cata and some snipping for gandalf from the second level to even have a chance.
Helm's deep was the same I had to camp in the keep.
EXACTLY! I am still trying to beat minas thirit, but the catapults just murder EVERYTHING! My knights always get completely demolished from the nazgul and the trolls, and even while camping on the second wall I eventually got destroyed by the army of trolls and archers. I also feel like my trebuchets are killing more of my own troops, than enemies (if you look at value), but that might just be me being stupid with trebuchets.
I think the AoD power should become available after Aragorn arrives
Epic rework for sure! I think the duration of the AoD should be extended to make it more like the films because it barely has time to kill the mumakil army. Also the orc spam is maybe a bit too insane after AoD. As a detail it would be sick if the witch king would charge for theoden at some point. Thats it for feedback! Amazing job! Can't wait to play it:)
That's Mordor's Call the Horde ability. It doesn't last long.
"It was to easy"
Not me needing Like 6 tries for this Mission, wondering If i even understood the Game 😂😂😂
That one was pretty easy for me. But the battle for Isengard when you play as ents was pain in one famous place.
we all think that in a same way
@@dexplacid431That was one of the most easiest mission If you Bit your ents into the water and throw stones
I can't wait to play this, although it looked like the most stressful experience in videogame history!
I really wish you'd carried into the stats screen though just to see the number of orcs you'd hit like a truck
While I like that it is so much harder overall, I do believe that when you survive to getting Aragorn and AoD it should then be a sweep, just like in the movies
The thing is, I agree that the campaigns were a bit too much on the easy side, and it make sense to have it be more challenging so you actually have to use your brain this time.
But this is just absurd, it's like they're trying to gatekeep the casuals out and expect only the most hardcore veterans to be playing. I used almost every single strategy to beat this mission and it just wasn't possible till I looked up these videos on how to do it.
Placing all your rangers in a pile just seemed counter intuitive to me, isn't it more strategic to place them on both sides? This would make sense if they didn't spam infinite troops who can 1 hit kill you, so you gotta pile them in 1 spot. They also stop you from attacking their base in the beginning, sorry for using strategy in a strategy game I guess...?
Orcs are basically pikemen, they do massive damage to my knights for even attempting to trample them, and are always accompanied by high level trolls who absolutely waste my caverly and can 4 shot Gandalf. Sorry for making use out of units other than rangers I guess...?
What's the point in having Grond if you're just gonna spam a gazillion trolls to attack my gate and eventually destroy it?
Seems to me like they are trying to force you to play a certain way, and I really don't like it at all. I want to beat it my way, not your way.
I prefer the base game.
You wanted feedback, Shanks, so here you go :)
I liked the idea of the difficulty increase and I liked the knights from Osgiliath thing.
The AI remained almost the same - orcs still couldn't board the siege towers after the initial push and remained around them, like when you lose your Gandalf or when you summon king Theoden. They only attacked one side really, and even ignored the farms on the left side. The orcs generally seem to ignore the buildings and instead will run through the whole city to kill a single unit within the castle. The mumakils just stood outside too. The majority of the Mordor base is useless as the AI does not produce out of siegeworks. Whatever you kill in the base, the AI just stops completely. They ignore their own troll pens too.
AOD: Aight, let me fulfill my oath and kill less orcs than there are ghosts, kekw.
I don't like it that powers are disabled. Is it going to be the same in the campaign? What is the point of a player trying to unlock a power only for the game to forcefully block this mechanic? Don't forget, powers are unique mechanics of this game, blocking them means turning the game into a very old RTS.
all true apart from the subjective part about the powers. AOD is just too OP imo. Maybe some other powers could come back, but having a Gandalf is already decent imo
@@BATTLEFIELD897 well it is supposed to be OP... look what happened in the movies..
Is their anyway you can change the campaign? I would love a map before Minas Tirith where you control the Rohan Army again, maybe the Battle of Dunharrow where you as the Rohirrim get to recharge the army and prepare it 1 final time before the battle of MT.
Thoughts? I think this would be an awesome addition to the campaign. You can control Eowyn, Eomer, Theodon and his riders level up / get prepared to max unit count etc. I think this would make fine campaign mission!
u can do that before this and fight to reclaim dunharrow
@@gengarpokemon7731 Yes but with this, I was hoping more of a Act mission, not something we can chose but is in the timeline, make it a mission like Osgiliath etc where It's an event
I don't like trebuchet's most of the time. Too easy to damage your own units and buildings. I used archery towers which helped take out the nazgul and trolls.
Will there be remastered versions for the evil campaign eventually?
Yes, when - we dont know yet
I usually not leave comments because noone is reading them. But since its not so many and you said you read all i ll give my time to write. First of all congratulation to your work. It shows dedication and love and its highly appreciated. I am not a pro player and started the campaign on easy since my time is limited with my family and i play the game to have fun. I am stuck in this mission because even on easy its too hard. Watching your video i can tell that even as a pro player as you, knowing the keyboard shortcuts and playing so super fast, you almost lost the game. And if a pro player as you is almost lost, what chance do i have? I agree with you that in the original campaign this mission was too easy but here we went from 0 to 100. How about making it to 50 to be also friendly to the players that are not experts? or in easy difficulty to make it, you know, easy? you could have some options for the players that are not too good to make it more fun for them, like let the player decide to destroy or not the camps in the beginning. If the player wants a challenge he can leave both or one standing. If the player finds the mission too difficult he could destroy both. Or the powers that are disabled. or the ghosts could last longer or permanently. I understand that many players like a challenge, but many also dont like a mission that is almost impossible to win if not being an expert in the game. Again congratulations for your amazing work :)
I wonder what makes this mission "fun" tho. Also helm's deep... it's the same thing. It makes no sense to have orc archers be level 10 so a single unit can kill two rangers of mine. I mean, look at gameplay here. It's basically a gimmick mission where you repeatedly use glorious charge. Yes, i'm playing on hard, so i guess i should have seen that coming, still, it's more annoying than hard. In helm's deep for example i had the reinforcing rohirrim ride around the remaining isengard wave as i was trying to pick each unit off one by one. Here it is basically the same thing, but with glorious charge. I think a much cooler approach would have been countless enemies and limited resources instead of just overpowered enemies that can only be beaten by theoden gimmicks.
One of the best player of this game is having a hard time playing this mission but you expect casual players who come back after years of not playing it to be able to clear this mess? If I wanted to play hell like difficulty I wouldn't have selected medium at the start of my campaign. Helm's Deep was a lot easier than this one btw. All you had to do is stack your archers in the inner walls and you just win off of that.
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We all saw that. Those units were just running around and not doing anything. You should have focused on the two catapults that were shooting him.
I also think the mod should be changed so the orcs don't spawn at level 10. Maybe level 6 or 7. And enable the oathbreakers once Aragorn shows up.
Just place your archers on the second level and you can afk the entire mission... also when AOD spawns the game just completely freezes.. i have a high end pc aswell
Same problem here
Would you consider making this easier for people om easy mode? I really want to beat the good campaign but no matter how hard I try I can't win. I always get pushed into a corner and that it. It's GG. So how do I fight back? I tried to do everything you did as well. It's such a bummer. I'm going to have to stop and play the dark camping instead and then move on to BFME2
Hey, yesterday i completed Minas Tirith without using Rohan Army. first Step is to build armory to get it to lvl 2 for banners and a marketplace for grand harvest. Build farms on every Spot except the last ring. You will Camp like in the Video one the right side upper ring with Rangers/banners/fire arrows. Place two wells on the building Spots and the third place doesnt matter you can Place a tower or another archer building. On the other side[left upper] you will just Place Towers only aswell on the outside Walls because catapults will take aggro of the Mobs and they will no more push you from only the right side. Sometimes they attack you from the left side but the Towers will help you. Keep an eye about the ramms they will sometimes sneak on the left side and destroy all your Towers and the citadel. You can take care of them with gandalf on horse He will two hit them with Basic attack. Also put boromir and pippin in Front of the right side Camp Spot, faramir on Walls and all catapults with Fireballs in the right side of the second ring. You can delete all units also the horseman at the beginning they are useless also the tower guards on both Gates second ring they are high lvl but i did not need them after i won i Player with them lvl 10 on the small maps and they just die. Rangers are better and i didnt even use them in minas tirith. Just Camp it out on the right side the whole time you dont need Rohan army and when Aragorn arives just use AOD on many as you can. After the last wave arives and already killed from your Camping Rangers in City you can summon rohan to kill Camps without any army attacking you. Aragorn,gimli,legolas you can take them into the City by destroing tower left side and place hidden path but you dont need them they are too late.
Hope that helps, currently working on Black gate but it is no fun at all. Iam not sure if i play the evil campaign because everything is grindy and takes so long. They should make the easy maps harder and the big maps more enjoyable like the movies lvl 10 armys are a pain in the ass. Hope that helps if you have any questions just ask for it
hey mate, i did what you said but when the gate is destroyed, like 10-20 cata's are going in and destroying the whole army from the centre of the first ring, yet there is a major attack intenisty form the left side, i think i'm obsessed with this one...@@sven6138
i played this mod with 'INCREASED Command points mod" and this patch 2.22 and hd edition, mannnnn this mission is impossible , even tho with 1000 command points the mission is hard , i think with increased command points the enemy also has duoble amount of units its crazy, havent won this mission yet, did 7 tries so far, and i have been playing bme for many years and i consider myself prety good. PS: Yes playing on hard difficulty
First of all, I appreciate your work. Not only the rework but also the videos. Since you're asking for some input I'd like to say that I played this game for 20 years now (!) and this is way too hard. I had to play it several times, kind of ruined the experience. Helm's Deep rework was harder and better, but easier than this. Minas Tirith is just annoying. Grond becoming useless or Mumakils inside the base says it all.
Also, my heroes aren't as leveled as yours. I can't even know how to get to level 5 with Faramir after Osgiliath.
The difficulty of the campaigns of this patch is ridiculously hard. I spent almost 20 years playing this game and even I can't stand the army of mordor on easy. No matter what I do, before the rohirrim arrives, everyone dies and every building collapses. The orcs don't hangout outside the city like in your gameplay for me. 10 minutes before the rohirrim, catapults clear up the city. In your gameplay, they hit unusable buildings but in my gameplay, they kill my army instead. There should be a fix for the difficulty. Easy should be easy not impossible...
Maybe its just a skill issue, but the version i played now was different from this video already, and it felt to unfair, every orc max leveled all my rangers in the wall die to archers even if i take down every catapult, i think the rework is awesome and clearly a lot of passion went into it, but that if even in easy mode i get overwhelmed way to fast and my rohirim get one taped by the insane ammount of enemies outside
Gandalf vs Nazgûl at the start of the mission is pure LOTR fan candy. 😁
I got my ass kicked so hard I had to look up a guide for this lol glad I found your video I'll give it another shot today. Still got my ass kicked lol it may be a little too hard I won't lie.
There are no trebuchets on my second ring. How do you get those?
a cool feature to this missio would be to make gate invincible to dmg until grond will show up or to make him be albe to deal dmg to the main gate
i think thinks like aragorn´s Elendil, Cloudbreak, horn of gondor shall work even when are armies level 10
I would sell my soul to see new missions for this game
Maybe less trolls in the beginning or having the gate with way more HP so Grond can arrive and he can have is big moment
Horrible horrible micro. It was painful to watch
Is it possible to make a map where you and opponent had started with an outpost only and standart 1000 in a bank, and in the middle of the map there would be a castle which anyone can buy for 5000. I think this format can be very entertaining, forcing players to fight very hard. What do you guys think?
I think its a little unbalanced. For most the game the gameplay is super slow, one little base rush killes you, the castle can not be afforded and when somebody can finally afford the castle, holding it, its emediatly over.
Possible iprovements: 6 Settlements, 6 Outposts, 1 big castle.
Every player gets 2 Oupposts with 2 to contest at top and bottom and the castle in the middle. Then you could live on 5/6 outpost, holding against the castle. What do you think
Just give 2 castles in the middle of the map. That will resolve the crisis
@@dertodeshorst6294 I agree that game should not be slow. I mean 2 outpost for each side, 1 setlment behind each outposts, 2 setlements in front each outpost ( so 6 setlements on a map ) and a castle in a centre. Also resourse income could be higher in general in compare to normal 1v1.
The point is that the first player who bought the castle usually should win. And cause of that both players in general will fight fo centr pretty hard. Cause if you let your opponent buy a centre Castle it is gg for you. I think games in general would be really fun
Great video like always. Though a small correction, nerd to nerd. Gandalf is the wielder of the flame of Anor, not Arnor. Anor is the sindarin name for "sun"
Yeah, this is a lot haha AOD should def be usable after Aragorn arrives. That unlimited orc spam is near unstoppable unless you get a lucky window to go destroy the orc pits. Looks like fun though, agreed the og version is way too easy.
Game dies after AOD arrive. It is impossible to play with 1 fps per minute.
AoD should be permanent. Otherwise it has no impact.
The challenge is over by that point.
@@appleogod Yes, if you want to finish Mordor with the units.
Much much harder than the last time! Not as hard as Helms Deep (THANKFULLY) but only because I felt safe on the second level. I only made it through because I maintained good production. I was able to pump out tons of archers to shoot down as the orcs came up.
Used the army of the dead to their fullest potential too haha
Great remix of it, thank you!
Did you play it on hard, medium or easy? I'm stuck right now on this level on hard and is being way more difficult than Helm's Deep 😢
@@pablocorbar i agree, it's harder than than helm's deep. But i got it on the second try by just defending the second circle, it makes no sense to try and defend the whole wall. It becomes much easier to resist until the rohirrim arrive and you can cheese your way out with glorious charge. if i'm being honest i didn't have fun in these two missions. they were just annoying.
The reworking of the map is great and the video too! ... but I ask if it is possible:
The existence of Postern gate (from the beginning) at the ends of the wall so that the knights could enter and leave the battlefield.
Speaking of which, would it be possible that from time to time a group of non-player knights would spawn to hit Mordor's catapults?
Apart from that the second line of defense only has units such as archers or soldiers to defend the bottlenecks at both ends. Is it possible to add something like the second line of Hornburg (similar) or make one of the entrances to the second line of defense unusable?
Lastly, Heroes die very quickly without using their abilities. Can there be a trigger for their certain abilities if they lose a certain amount of life?
How can I download this game with these patches?
I think AoD should have an extended duration, so you can clear a bit more, but otherwise a great job!
I would have set up an engagement area right inside the gate with statues on both sides and made my stand there with all rangers and leadership. Then had trebuchets auto fire to their front. Then have knights screening in the field for catapults and siege towers. You could have held them there. You had a hard time because you didn’t control the catapults - you let the AI own you with catapults for far too long. You didn’t even clean up the catapults on your initial charge when Rohan arrived.
Grond is very powerful impossible to destroy. And without the gate you have to regroup to the second level with Wells and heroic statues also when Rohan arrives also at the second level to help the Gondor army. That thing with the survinors of Osgiliath was very cool. In the original game of bfme you can destroy Grond by opening gate bombarding it with flaming stones and ent summoning with throwing rocks 🪨. This patch is a lot more challenging the fact that you can't get workshop is a huge problem mate
EPIC w. epic on top !!
What a map ... brilliant work you guys :)
Probably needs be a little easier ... if anybody but Shanks is to have any fun on it :D
Lmao Theoden and Eomer just became the Kings of Rohan and Gondor cause they’re the last ones left.
I've played this map during the Good Campaign on Hard (Gold?) difficulty, Bfme 2.22, March 2024
I'm up for a challenge, I liked Helms Deep and Black Gate very much (sometimes too many saves/loads, but it's just my way to have some fun)
But Minas Tirith seems like unplayable, I've just moved my camera to focus on the knights to deal with Mordor trebuchets, the next thing I see that I have no archers left on the wall lvl 10 orc archers just blasted them away in no time.
Part of it because our archers are level 2-4, because you have to recruit them in the city and Faramir and Boromir are arriving alone.
Tried to use the Gondor Statues and Boromir's For Gondor, that kind helps, but not for long.
Tried to use the trebuchets to bombard the area in front of the wall, helped a little bit.
I think the greatest thing would be "higher" camera option to observe a wider area to be able to control more things at once
So, I've been reading the comments on here and I highly agree with them. I tried Helms Deep multiple times and one simply by cheesing it and keeping everyone in the hornburg instead of attempting to defend anything. I've tried Minas Tirith upwards of 20 times now. It's difficult, and you've completely ruined the mission. I don't know how, but you've made one of my favorite missions from my childhood absolutely busted. I started on medium difficulty as I've beaten every game recently (except this one) on medium. I really don't want to have to switch to 1.03 or another previous patch just to replay the campaign at a halfway decent difficulty.
It feels ridiculous. The hordes are never ending. Even you (in a 50 minute video) barely ended up winning. As a lot of the other comments have said: it feels like you're alienating the casual player who wants some difficulty, but not a never ending horde. You've said you read every comment, which is likely true, but I get the feeling that you're not actually *listening* to any of the comments. You enjoy the difficulty, so you simply keep stuff the same. It's ridiculous the amount of trolls that spawn, and level 10 orcs everywhere. Heroes die in no time whatsoever.
If you truly do listen to us, please, for the love of all that's fucking holy, turn down the spawn rates and lower enemy levels so they're not constantly one-tapping you. You took a fun mission that was a bit easy in the base game and cranked it up passed 100 up to 200. Please please *please* consider adding in an option within the game that would allow us to turn on/off powers, and decide just how hard we want it. I can't even imagine what this patch would look like on hard mode, and I'm not even tempted to start the game over on easy as I bet it'll feel exactly the same as Medium.
please play my old ROTWK custom map - Dwarrowdelf :)
I get that you want to make it a challenge, but this is just dumb and un-fun. Too many catapults, with too long range, and unless you perfectly planned your armies and heroes in the levels prior (i.e. leveling theoden for glory charge and gandalf for WoP) you're just screwed. Sucks because I will literally never beat the campaign because of this level here.
This difficulty is beyond standards man. I've seen comments of people complaining about Helms Deep but that one was easy for medium difficulty, only failed once cause i didnt implement my tactics as good as i did in the second time. The orcs on the other hands are extremely powerful and way too many and there are also trolls level 5/6 and the catapults shooting at every direction like chaotic. Even with Gandalf and Gondor Knights you can cause a temporar solution but thats not enough to balance it a bit. Currently sitting at 6 failed attempts. :(
Hope there is a patch out to nerf a little bit of the chaos or maybe a posibility that will make this mission easier in a way.
Maybe make it so that the Gate of Minas Tirith can only be broken by Grond
Just so you won’t be overwhelmed from the gate being broken
Let me correct my self from good job to phenomenal job brother. It just looks like in the films, you can feel the powerlessness like you do while watching the return of the king 😍😍🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝
Is this on easy? I beat it on easy without too much trouble. But I'm trying medium now, and I feel like I'm facing way more enemy units than in this video. I also notice that in your video, the catapults have a lot of wasted shots on the first level, when I play their shots overwhelm the second level and I can't keep anything alive with the rain of catapults.
If they wanted to be as lore as possible why so few of oathbreakers? More of them when coming to help and no timer. Also why AI just stopped?
Is it possible to let the gate only be broken by Gronk ? Just to make it more realistic to the limit 😂
Sieht wirklich mega aus soweit, ich fände es gut wenn ihr die Command Points noch etwas erhöhen würdet, so das man neben den notwendigen Bogenschützen auch mehr Soldaten auf die Mauern packen kann ohne auf die Ersteren zu verzichten 🙏🏼
Liebe Grüße und weiter so !
Does anyone has the same problem once Aragorn and his gang arrive, the frame suddenly drops like 1 per minute @@???
Also, definitely would like to see a rework of the map with more stages, with gates in between just like the movies :D
When teoden and eomer arrive
You should destroy orc houses and will be easy to win. Moreover, you take rohan eorlings from ring power
I was thinking, maybe could be cool to add an ability to the Mûmakil in BFME that they blow the horn (like in the films) and then the Haradrim on top of the Mûmakil get a temporary buff maybe. I would just love to see the Horn of the Haradrim implemented somehow because it sounds so awesome, but it shouldn't be unbalancing Mordor so it's of course up to you
Thanks for you feedback
i played it on normall and it is really hard :D never lasted till rohan reinforcements :D gonna try it on easy and improve my gandalf...
Such dificulty might push back some gamers from playing it.
I agree, the first version of BFME was too easy. But this is too much, the army of the dead was a joke
who want to play that is pro about that . patch is bad for the fans.why dont u make it hard and realistic
MY FRIENDS: how do i get BFME 1 on my laptop???
You say "reforged". What's reforged about this?
Nice game. Will you do the video for the edain mod?
Makes my game crash, never ending orcs and siege towers after AoD
got oblitterated 2 mins before Rohan arrived on my first try
Finally won that shit. It took me a while , but it was worth it. What a great campaign you have made guys!
Population cap has to be increased please on both sides.
long time fan of bfme, pretty much played it once a year every year since it came out. I absolutely agree the vanilla game is too easy once you get a hang of it.
i've just played up until Minas tirith in patch 2.22 for the first time and am thoroughly enjoying the spike in difficulty. The one suggestion I would have is to buff the heroes health, to counteract the AI targeting and maybe perhaps introduction of Knights of Dol Amroth as units to give Gondor in this mission a much needed pack a punch. (perhaps a tier 3 and heavy armour pre-requisite )and a standing fiefdom of Gondor army to join Aragorn to counter weight the fact that the AoD isn't permanent anymore Plus it would be faithful to the books, having them sally out of the city would be a great sight to behold and join the Rohirrim and Aragorn on the battlefield. I have no real criticisms. Maybe i'm far past the point of any further additions being made to the patch but yeah. It does feel like the AI is weighted too heavily to win, we don't want it easy but even introduction of dol amroth knights wouldnt make it even, would still be difficult.
Anyway, great mod.
Looks very sweet. Thank you for your hard work and dedication.
This didn't come with my patch, how do I get this one?
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I was able to spawn ents and kill the first camp at the start
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Where i can buy this game? :(
thanks for this man, great work
wow, awersome, and this catas wow
How do you play this version? I'm on patch 2.22 using the launcher and just got to Minas Tirith but pretty sure it wasn't as hard as this, even though it had the osgiliath knights, for example. Is there some option to toggle that makes it easier or something that I accidentally pressed? like the BETA thing? (I played lothlorien & helm's deep and they were both more difficult than usual)
To play it you need to have the basic BfME 1 installed right? I'd love to join and help you but unfortunately my current pc doesn't have a rom drive anymore so I can't install it.
With the 2.22 patch when Aragorn and the Ghost army turns up my frame rate drops considerably and the game freezes. Think there is too many units on the Battlefield
What difficult is this on? I ask cause the AI only takes 2 of the 4 campls, will that be changed on hard or is that the hard difficult setting?
If this is not a legit reason to take a break from work and setting your phone to "occupied", I don't know what is.
Far to hard for a casual
Do You know, that if you had unlocked AOD in this mision in 1.06 and if you summoned them they had unlimited time, and you could actually summon multiple army of the deads :D
i understand eliminating the cheesing but i feel like stripping out powers just cuz also takes away from the game
I was hoping you'd scream, "Retreat! TO THE SECOND LEVEL!!!"
I’ve tried 3x now. Pretty sure heroes are limited to not be even lvl 9 by this point in the campaign. Otherwise I must not have the patience to grind their lvls, I play my campaigns on hard so that must affect exp gain rate. Helms deep was hard enough, but this is impossible. I can’t even make it past the 8 minute mark for Rohan army, not that they’d make any difference at all. Must have nerfed the income as well, because I run out so fast. I’m gonna try again at some point, but I might have to start over and turn down difficulty just because of this mission. I remember the black gate being the hardest in vanilla, I cannot imagine it now. Also I’m using a more cp mod, even then it doesn’t help
same... idk if its because i only have lvl 2 units from osgiliath battle or what but man... I just cant hold the door for even 5 minutes. Helms Deep or even Isengard I got it at 2nd - 3rd try but this... almost impossible! And my upper trebuchets only make it worse killing my own units
@@chaamanI used a “more cp” mod. Increased both good and evil (it applies mostly for non-scripted missions). Then I unfortunately did what everyone else does for this I guess. I sat in the right corner of the upper level. I had a couple trebs I made at osgiliath show up with faramir army, as well as an extra 3 Gondor knights, so 6 in total. The rest were rangers. I had faramir and Gandalf with the knights the whole time. Boromir stood near the stairs where the fountain guard and rangers were. I move all of the trebs from the upper level to one side except the two facing the gate (put this on bombardment where they hit outside the gate, should kill the first two waves of trolls) and just put them on bombardment up and down the stairs. I had 5 trebs hitting the stairs. And with ranger support you should manage to keep 3-4 alive. Micro tf out of those knights, put them in a control group (crtl+ 1). Once your first set of buildings are destroyed, just build wells everywhere, don’t worry about training more army. Keep as many knights alive as you can. I liked to lure when I could. As in, send them out one postern gate, and they were aggrod hard. Then send them all the way around, even using upper level if I had to, to the other side. And rush out and destroy catapults. I focused catapults and archers. I lost Gandalf and faramir twice each before AoD showed up. I didn’t call Rohan until after AoD was used up and Mordor stopped spawning. I let out a loud relief of “oh my ducking god finally”. I played that mission like 8 times to finally beat it. If you are going to use the more code mod, it is fairly simple to install, I recommend starting over. If you want more than what the mod changes, you’ll need a software that allows you to change BIG. files, notepad does not work. I set it at 1k for good and 2500 for evil. By the time of Minas tirith you’ll have about 1270 cp. but are limited for the scripted missions like Minas tirith and helms deep. There are about 15-16 other maps you can go to after Minas Tirith to rebuild your armies and upgrade units and rank up heroes. Do it. Black gate is no joke. Hope this helps
Can you only play this game and it’s sequel if you have the CDs? As it’s not on steam.
İ did cheat at the start with trebuchets. Dont need to reach mordor base with knights. But still i lost 4 times🤦♂️ gandalf starts level 9 in your game but my gandalf only level 5 he never reach level 10 at this mission. Nearly impossible to win. Mordor catapults so annoying man🤬🤬
Deleting gondor siegework is bad idea
Same problem here, gandalf doesn’t have the istari light. So I can’t push the first wave of nazgul! How did you do it??
I have a question. Will You remove in new version of campaign limit of leveling up units per 1 mission? It is a little bit annoying, and it will be even more annoying if missions will be harder :)
This is too hard…
I have played that but it was so easy u should make it hard next time.
BFME on Unreal Engine!!!!!! DO ITTT
your enthusiasm & joy are really contagious! Thanks mate! ✌💪🙏
I've finished this Mission without ever losing the main gate.
I gave up from the start the left side of the wall and gathered all my archers and Faramir on the right.
I put guards of the tower near the entrance with Boromir, protecting the stairs, since orcs will come from the left wall (no need to kill those siege towers).
I used Gandalf and the cavarly to kill all catapults (also used ents and sometimes sent out the guards from the entrance).
Once Rohan arrives it's pretty easy.
You CANNOT lose the main gate or you're screwed. Couple of rams and Grond are the main threats; to kill Grond you just charge with cavalry when he spawns at the corner of the map. I also spawned ents at the entrance, opened the gate and focussed Grond with archers and guards, basically with almost everything (also if you open the gate he bugs for some time)
Of course you never stop recruiting guards, cavalry and the elite archers (don't remember their english name).
This was my main strategy, there are also a lot of small things and micro which help a lot. THIS NEW MINAS TIRITH VERSION WAS REALLY REALLY FUN! Thx for the experience guys!
Ents are not allowed so that was not THIS battle. You probably playing vanilla or 1.06
where is your install guide for witch king on gameranger I cant find it bro
not me having to test this mission over a 100 times XD
Looks like mordor will stop making units after 45 mins. That is a bug or is that meant to be?
At some point their command points are reduced to 0 as far as i know
Evil campaign minas tirith is extremely hard do you have any advice or video on how to beat it?
I played it on normal difficulty and won after a long time. Before you make your big push, wait to defend against the Army Of Death and Theoden.
1)After that use catapults with an fast ground hero against the catapults and destroy with them all defenders on the first wall. You can use your catapults to make big gaps into the wall with big firepower.
2) Use the two troll types suported with Naskuls (esp. Witch King), the Eye, range and darkness. Destroy everything in the first ring and then concentrate all your troops on one side the second ring. You need about 4 production building for the trolls and non stop reenforements. You should also sometimes hold and wait to attack with enough troops. Let the trolls attack first and then with the Naskuls!