+UndyingWladeslaus I actually love the attention to detail in young Chirin, his structure seemed looking cute and ticklish before he became a very wolflike ram. I have no Idea how hard I'd be crying if I saw this as a young kid because I've never seen it in my early life.
@@fer_nanda4509 Lack of self discipline, lack of personal responsibility, lethargy, content with being unprepared in body and mind for the harshness of the real world, needlessly being dependent on other people, I could go on.
@@smh9902 Sounds like you have a basic and sh 1/tty mind. The world is complex, and that kind of discipline is for people with basic ways of acting. Nobody needs rules like that if they want a good world where there are plenty of complex things.
This is the classic tale of starring into the abyss, and the abyss starring back into you. Become a monster to keep worse monsters at bay, but in the process get rejected by those who you wanted to protect.
It's also symbolic. When chirin was an lamb it serves as a way to find him by his mother but when he's an adult it serves as an warning that the killer demon ram is coming.
I love how this children's movie doesn't have a happy ending, because it's kind of cliche. I also like how this children's movie doesn't shy away how harsh, sad and tragic the real world is.
I would also like to add that there was a book and Takashi Yanase’s books also have at least some unhappy endings. Take The Kindly Lion for example, it ends with the lion and his dog mother dying.
Well I agree with you except the part where you say that happy endings are a cliche because this is simply not the case and there is nothing such as that
@@YourFoodIsBland I mean, Woe killed both of them, if I wasn't understandable enough. From the moment where Woe killed his mum, he destined Chirin to never become a normal sheep, but a monster like him.
Is anyone else amazed how it starts off so fluid like a western cartoon of Disney's caliber, and vontrasts with its rough nature of anime at the second half?
That is do to, a lot of Early Anime, and Later Early "Slice of Life/Children" Anime were Inspired by Western Anime, and a lot of the Animator , went over to the USA an leadned from the Disney team or later Commissioned by Disney to do a few Carroon short. But of course Japan come up with their own style later.
@@puterboy2 I'm afraid I've never watched any of the Star Wars films. There are a lot of movies that share these themes. I just named some of the ones I've seen.
Idea for an alternative ending that also fits the narrative: Chirin seeks out revenge after training with Woe by trying to become a guardian to his old pasture (or maybe wanders until he finds a new one), defending them from a wolf pack, only to hear the scream of a wolf puppy after he kills its mother that was only trying to hunt for food for her cubs. The realization that he has both doomed the cubs to be motherless like him (and also likely starve to death) shakes him to his core. The puppies are too terrified of him to allow him to help them or apologize, and the flock fears him as well. Accepted by neither wolf nor sheep, just a killer.
This would have been a beautiful ending, I dare to say even better than the ending we actually got. The anime treats this wolf like an individual but your idea shows that neither would accept him, nor other wolves
It's a good way to put it toobut lacks the shock value of destroying the last being who cared for him and his father figure, Woe. In your interpretation he would just return to live with Woe and in the original, he is totally helpless. No hope, nobody who wants to have anything to do with him and bearing the pain of knowing that he IS the reason why Woe died and he killed him just to impress some sheep who never cared for him and for blind revenge. They did not even comfort him after the loss of his mother nor stopped him from leaving the flock. And Woe, despite Chirin hating him at first was ironically the only one besides him mother who cared about him in his whole life, but he understood that too late and he could do nothing about it. That's why the ending is so tragic in the first place
There is an earlier version of the story where Chirin goes looking for other sheep flocks, but he can't get into any of them because they fear him. Also, do you remember the scene from Moulin Rouge where everyone just stood around watching Christian sob over Satine's corpse after she died? They were giving him space, so did the other sheep with Chirin.
40:16 the saddest and most traumatic part of the movie. this is the part where you can actually see Chirin's spirit be broken and his psyche truly crumble into dust. you can see it on his face that all the "strength" that he spent his time building was all for nothing to others. he knew his life meant nothing to him,... but now he was sure it meant nothing to others as well. it's a god damned shame. this image is burned into my mind and has been there since before I was 10. I'm nearly 40 now. it doesn't get any easier...
Thank the West for Inspiring them; and in some cases, some Japanese Animators went to the USA to learned from the Disney Team. Several of most Famous Animators talk about how it was fun learning from Disney and able to blind Western and Easter styles to make something new.
Its actually quite cheaply done, but for its era it didn't have much to go by, its not like its competing with western animation either. At this point in time in the west, Hannah Barbara is making most cartoon animation and its doing it cheaply and it notices by how low quality their animations are. There is no profit in animation at this point in the west, this will change very soon in the 80s because America's laws relax on advertising an merchandise tie-ins, giving birth to iconic franchise like My Little Pony, Transformers, Care Bears, and with the Disney resonance, western animation will take a leap ahead of Asian animation until the 2000s.
@@KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven were Disney around in 1910? Because Japan has been making anime since 1910 and its good for its era. Japanese animators are amazingly talented. Just saying...
@@erenyeagerist7681 Walt Disney was born before 1910, but he Didn't get to start his Animation Company until much later. As for Japan Animtion back then (1910 to 1918)-- Each Animtion segment was based around Folklord and done in the "WoodBlock Style" Japan in known for & had little movement. ( I have watched several and quite enjoy them). But my original comment was quoting from several official interviews, documentaries, and testimonies where it's Stated that the "Fathers of Modern Animtion" went to the USA and learned from the Diseny Team how to make more lively/colourful Characters which lead to a new style being made. And before that Japan's "Post Woodblock" animtion was said to be inspired by American Comic Strips (1907) & Felix The Cat who came around in 1918. But at the end of day all forms of Art/Film are inspired by sources from around the world & ever changing. Thank you for your comment. 🙂 And I hope you have a wonderful evening.
Disneyfan82 If only he had Vader’s redemption, but then again, this was released before Return of the Jedi was conceived. Don’t you even agree aside from everyone else that Chirin and Anakin are very much alike?
All his preparation to kill his mother's killer all goes to nothing. The wolf dies an honorable death in the hands of his student while his fellow sheep just turn their back on him way back then when he lost his mother.
Pretty chilling that at the end he's never seen again. Only the sad, mournful sounds of his bell ringing in the cold blizzard winds. Sounds similar to the story of Echo, how she died of a broken heart with only her voice remaining.
@@absolite6 Nobody deserves to be alone like that. And now I wonder if this is also an allegory of soldiers that entered the war, only to end up losing everything with no home or loved ones left.
This movie shows how you are what you choose to be. Your choices reflect you, and how you grow. You can't expect a happy ending always, you have to accept the outcome of your choices. Chirin had the chance of returning to the farm but instead he dedicated his life to avenge his mother instead of moving on, essentially becoming what he had chosen. The price to pay for all that strength and finally killing his mother's murderer was loneliness and society not accepting him for what he had become. He's somehow a tragic hero.
Yes, except that she wasn't vengeful and didn't go beyond the fence, and in the end it spared her nothing; she herself died in terror in what should have been the safety of her home. So even a "safe" life is full of risks, and every choice we make-even when we make it for the sake of another-can have unpleasant repercussions. The question is whether we consider and understand all of those repercussions before we find ourselves in the position of having to actually make the choice, and fully accept what they would mean for us over the course of a lifetime. Decisions should not to be made in haste.
Tobey Maguire: "The night Ben Died. I Hunted down the man who I thought did it. I wanted him dead. I got what I wanted. It didn't make it better. It took me a long time to... Learn to Get through that Darkness.
@matthewfox1561 Yeah, in this case, it was a little of both. Because the wolf and himself saw each other as family as well, which is sadly ironic. In the end, he couldn't even return to his herd because he chose to become something unrecognizable, even to himself.
other really sad part when Chirin realizes that he is not a sheep, he is not a wolf, he is nothing.. and all his efforts to be strongs means nothings or the others sheeps, they don't want to see him.
Wolf was never the Villain in this. He was just living his life, doing what he must and in the end. He chose to show Chirin his life so that one day his son would be the one to end it. A child cried out for his mother. Had he chose to grief without revenge in his heart he would have died. A grown adult cried out for his father figure. Knowing that in the end the only thing he ever wanted has left him forever
@@Raximus3000 It seems more like he just realized he killed the only being left who cared about him, and his soul just got crushed and lost again since the death of his mother. He continued the cycle of suffering Woe once beared, he became a wandering soul who everyone feared and knowed about but nobody wanted to even speak to, he had no place of his to stay.
Well, in other adaptations of the story, Chirin is now a nightmare legend mothers tell to their children: if they cry, Chirin will take them away and kill them.
The wolf was happy to die. He knew his lifestyle would lead to death. He was “honored” to have been killed by the lamb. The fascinating part is the lamb actually got exactly what he wanted, even though he felt bad afterward: to kill the wolf who murdered his mom. However, after achieving this, the lamb realizes he now has nobody to love. His old flock won’t accept him, and the wolf is dead; inevitably this was bound to happen simply because the lamb chose to become as his enemy. Even the wolf said he knew his lifestyle would lead to death- and if not for the lamb, he would have also lived his life in solitude. This begs the question: should the lamb have gone after and then become friends with the wolf in the first place? Had he stayed with his flock, he would have always had somebody to love. Then again, had he not “become a wolf” so to speak, he would not have been the warrior it took to kill the wolf in the end and save his old flock. But who can blame his old flock for not re-accepting him after he attacked them, and who can blame the lamb for killing his “father” the wolf? The film ended the way it should have: the lamb roaming in solitude. This was the path he chose, his “price” for becoming what it took to defeat his enemy. What an accurate depiction of life: for many of us, it seems our life experiences have been pre-determined from the start. Whether we remain with our flocks or become the enemy itself, both negative and positive things will derive either way. Either more sheep will be killed by this particular wolf with nobody there to stop it, OR a traumatized little lamb will cross over to the “dark side”, so to speak, and end up living his life in wandering solitude. The flock should be grateful for the lamb having left to join the wolf, even though I’m sure they talked bad about him behind his back. The lamb truly is a hero in this story, and it can be viewed as though he essentially sold at least a part of his soul to the ways of darkness in order to save his old flock from death. They’ll never appreciate what he did, but at least he did the right thing, in regards to saving his old flock. Even though he’s now a homeless vagabond with nobody to love, at least he did the right thing. He got what he set out to do, yet necessarily by becoming a “wolf” himself, when it come time to kill the real wolf, it was as though the lamb killed a part of himself in the process. Now the lamb lives, we can sometimes hear his bell in the distance; he’s alone, and badly scarred, but he did the right thing, so he lives. 🙏🙏
I am drowning in tears rn. You are a talented individual to put it into words. Your words are real talent that can mold the world. I will save this. Best wishes, ✌️
I was going to say what kind of dogs did he have guarding the sheep? If he really wanted to keep the flock safe, the farmer should invest in dogs that can actually stand up to wolves? Like Kangals or Caucasian Shepard's, even just 3 of them can destroy a wolf. Another idea is install better fencing and electrify it.
Sheep didn't care about Chirin, Woe didn't exactly care for him either. It's still sad that he didn't fit in anywhere, but I'm kinda glad that he became something more than all of them.
Well Woe cared enough about him to actually train him and take care of him. He could have easily killed him so many times but instead granted Chirin his wish to make him strong. In his own twisted way, I think he kinda cared for him. And was the only living thing that accepted him for what he was. Which makes the fact that Chirin killed him to save his heard all the more hearth breaking. Had Chirin allowed Woe to proceed, Woe would probably still have accepted him. But without him, he is alone.
like in 'Princess Mononoke' I have to admit that sometimes looks a bit weird when some animals moves their lips at the same time they talk. I usually prefer this kind of animation, it's really intense!
Really? I thought it was a play on words, with Chirin screaming Uou's (the Japanese spelling if I recall) name symbolizing him literally being a wolf, howling alone in the mountains. Since well, it sounds like Uwoooo! Like a howl :)
Chirin saying that he’s a sheep felt like someone claiming that they’re still human. After all he’s done, all he’s been through, he still sees a part of himself, who he was, in there. Its even more tragic when he’s rejected by others cause he’s become something completely different. The message of the story hits even harder when you look up how the authors as a soldier in WW2 and how he hated what he had done, what he’d become, the friends and his brother that died but he lived. Chirin is an allegory for the soldier that comes back home, and is no longer the person they were. No longer feeling like they belong. I get sad every time I think about this story. Its wonderfully tragic and mature for a kids story.
Fun fact: this short was based on a book by Takashi Yanase, the creator of the popular children’s series “Anpanman.” Also, adult Chirin was voiced by Akira Kamiya, better known for voicing Kenshiro from “Fist of the North Star.” Woe was voiced by the late Seizo Katoh, best known as the Japanese voice of Megatron.
@@jessiewilkinson520 No. It was called Ringing Bell. It was released on VHS by RCA Columbia Home Video and it featured the voices of Barbara Goodson and Gregg Berger.
I'm glad I found this, it seems like a (relatively unknown) gem. It's a fascinating story, very thought-provoking and complex (not to mention dark) for a kids' movie. I think what I find especially sad about Chirin is that at the end, he remembers who he really is and sees the error of his ways, but this realisation comes too late. He's burned too many bridges, done too many things that can't be undone, gone too far down Bad Choice Road, and there's no coming back for him. In such a scenario we as audiences are conditioned to expect to see such a character go through a redemption arc, but Chirin never gets one. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but I do like a story that refuses to pander to the audience in this way. I love the soundtrack to this film too, it's so haunting and atmospheric, and it makes the whole thing that much more memorable and emotionally impactful.
_"Revenge is never a straight line. It's a forest, and like a forest it's easy to lose your way... to get lost... to forget where you came in."_ --Hattori Hanzo, _Kill Bill: Volume 1_
I have a better one. "Revenge is like a poison, it can take you over and before you know it, it can turn you into something ugly." -Aunt May, Spider-Man 3.
Some may interpret this story as a typical revenge plot, with the underlying moral that vengeance is unsatisfying. To me, that aspect of the film seemed secondary to the message that one should try to find the good in the hand you are dealt. Yes, the sheep are basically helpless and live on borrowed time, but they find comfort in their lambs and their pasture while it lasts. Contrariwise Woe is an absolute badass but the loneliest creature in the film. He doesn’t even seem to enjoy doing what he does, attributing all his actions and routines to nature’s plan for him. Chirin’s inability to acknowledge or accept things about himself that he simply cannot change led him to fall between two worlds, having the skillset of a wolf and the mindset of a sheep (specifically, the ability to feel empathy).
Woe was a lone wolf; a miserable being. Quite possibly, he may have had some empathy with the sheep. Wolves live in packs like sheep live in herds. That might be one of the reasons why he took Chirin in. Chirin was a "lone sheep" like he was a "lone wolf". Perhaps Woe was a happy little lamb like Chirin at one time but lost his pack to tragedy and he had to strike it on his own and learn to face the savage world by himself. Or maybe he was banished from the pack and he became callous and cold. We don't know _Woe's_ story, only Chirin's. So we can't know for sure Woe's intentions. We do know that he's aware of the natural order; he's a predator, he kills to survive. He didn't kill the bear, for example, and he only killed one deer in that herd. He killed Chirin's mom on accident when attacking Chirin, who got too close to his kill. Likely the attack on Chirin's old pasture was a challenge and a test. We also know he's a cold and callous creature, whether that's because of his solitude or what caused his solitude is unknown.
Chirin running through the black smoke and crossing the bridge as it crumbles behind him shows that he’s crossing a line and there’s no going back… they don’t make them like they use to
Looking back, I think if Chirin stayed on the farm, he would have been killed for meat. Because the only grown sheep shown on the farm were ewes and not a ram in sight, neither was Chirin's biological father discussed. So he would have had to leave for his freedom and face harsh reality of being someone's food, regardless of whether or not Woe killed his mother. Either way, he would have never been able to stay on the farm for life.
Gosh there’s so much I love about this movie... I think part of what I love (I realized) is how it really isn’t a “talky” movie. It allows the visuals to convey as much as the dialogue. And even moments that are more limited in movement are still super detailed and expressive!!
I think worth noting is that Chirin has a very human looking face at the end, which is a very interesting decision. I know that there are folks pointing out how physically he is also very wolf-like, but his face is what is so surreal by the end. Let alone how demonic his horns are, what feels so tragic is that to me you don't think about what the world around you is doing to you as you make your decisions in life. But Chirin's life from the start is marked by tragedy, so it makes it feel unfair for him to realize what is going on. It's a pretty dense, overdetermined image that is tapping into quite a bit about how people end up in life. If there's anything I can appreciate it for, it's for not valorizing learning to just hurt people relative to how most people normally go about their lives. The ability to hurt or kill others, for the sake of it, is not something most people will welcome into their lives.
I cried when Chirin realized his mother was dead, I'll admit it. I don't cry often in media. They all follow the same cookie-cutter pattern so I know what to expect. You know, the rain, sad music, dark tones, blah blah. But this was so violent, so horrible, so _childish_ it killed me. Very well done. I've never seen this movie before. I'm glad I finally have! Revenge is a dish best not served. That's a motto I love. Just the idea of "You slay the monster you work so hard to defend against only to become it" is horrifying and amazing. It's underutilized and when it's done well, it's just... AMAZING. The whole time I was silently hoping for a happy ending. Some part of me knew that this _couldn't_ have a happy ending, but also... it's a movie; likely a kid's movie. They always have happy endings. Right? Wrong. And I'm SO GLAD I was wrong. His journey was heartbreaking and looking back at how happy he was as a lamb to now is a real journey. Sheep rams have curled, sturdy horns for ramming into each other. They could break bones! The fact his horns were curled _forward_ for stabbing and shadowed his eyes spoke a lot about his physical, predator-esc design. He built himself for killing. Unlike the soft sheep, he was frazzled, feral, _murderous._ Even after killing Woe, he certainly didn't endear himself to the fluffy sheep. He'd made too many mistakes, scratched too far into the stone, to turn himself back. He'd made himself into a wolf wearing a sheep's wool, and wolves didn't live in sheep flocks.
A beautiful masterpiece. It'd be nice if they remade it. This was touching to my heart, and it almost made me cry. In this movie, the lesson is that vengeance can't give your heart freedom. It only cracks it until your heart becomes the only one broken... Chirin had his innocence taken away from him. Sadly, some people now days suffer vengeance or pure heartbreak. This is an example of how some people can become like Chirin. A broken soul...
Living to please someone is not good, and the opposite end, living to prove someone wrong, is not good either. Both instances your intentions are sourced from relying on another person, and not yourself.
Precisely zero people expected Sanrio, the creators of Hello Kitty, to produce a deeply adult, profound tragedy, and as a cartoon no less. Arguably one of the better Animes of the late seventies.
Okay, here is what i learnt.. I heard a quote from American Sniper where the dad teaches their son about that there is sheep, wolves and sheep dogs.. Sheeps are the common people enjoying their freedom of living, wolves are those that preys on common people and sheep dogs are the ones fighting the wolves so that the sheeps may live in peace.. But this movie changed everything in my perspective... Chirin's life was a mix of all three animals.. He was a innocent sheep, learned the way of wolves, became a sheepdog by protecting the flock... The wolf felt pride during his death, the sheep felt relieved that they lived to see the sun another day, but what Chirin felt is unexplainable emptiness.. The story made us audience feel that emptiness too which is reality..
makes me think of a post i saw about tragedies that said, “a really good tragedy is one in which it simultaneously seems like there are a million and one moments in which a single character could’ve made a different choice and everything could’ve ended up better, and like nothing could ever have averted this terrible end. knowing the characters could have made a different choice, but also knowing those particular characters never would have.” chirin, woe, the sheep all could have made choices at any time that would’ve changed the outcome of the story, but in the end, you know there’s no other way for this story to play out. chirin would seek to cope with his circumstances, woe would live by his beliefs, and the sheep would value safety above all else. there’s no other way for chirin’s story to end, but that’s the great thing about tragedies; it tells us this story still matters, even though it didn’t get to have a happy ending. chirin did everything he could given his circumstances and his character, and even though it ended sad for him, his story still matters.
I cried soooooo much. Expecially because i have a strange connection with lambs. I loved them when i was little because of a song that my mom used to sing me everytime. Now that i saw this, it broke my heart
Ive always wondered if Chirin and the beast of japan myth Kirin are one in the same. Kirin was known as a legendary hooved beast that has existed in asian culture for thousands of years. The description isnt too far off from Chirin as an adult and his location in the end fits with the myth of where it is said you can find Kirin. I wouldnt be suprised if the author had some intention of this being the origin story of the myth.
@@andrewgan557 nice idea, but that would make more sense if Chirin was an actual wolf and was frightful and meek like a sheep, rather than being a sheep that was fierce and bloodlusting like a wolf
Hm... I'm curious if the wolf knew his student wouldn't be able to go through with killing the sheep and would then turn on him?.. Because between how he talked about the fate of the lone wolf, being proud, and how he really didn't try all that hard to dodge Chirin's last attack. It really seems like the wolf may not have only knew it would happen, but may have purposely givin Chirin the task of attacking his old home just for that very reason.
Of course it was planned, i think from the very beginning. The wolf knew better than anyone that training that sheep and taking it with him would only be to corrupt it, he saw through Chirin's soul, still that couldn't convert him into a traitor to his blood, specially when the reason he even went with the wolf was, as he said, to kill him; to protect his relatives from something he thought was injust, the intentions of his heart were pure, not really vengeance. But as the wolf told him, that's just how this world is supposed to be. And the sheep had to go through that to understand it. The wolf decided his fate when he didn't kill Chirin as a lamb. He choose him to be the one to end his life. He took him to attack the sheeps to finally show him what is like to be a "wolf", which was what Chirin wanted, but could never be; so he could complete the mission of his childhood, kill him. The wolf was proud that the lamb couldn't have his heart corrupted, that he finally understood his place, his nature, even if he, now, was something else: not a wolf, not even a sheep, and with no home. The movie is pretty much symbology. A lot of times we let the world corrupt us so we can "overcome" it, to be tougher than it, but the only who overcomed the world is God. He uses trials and sorrow to teach us. It gets to a point where God puts you to reveal your heart, and if you have learned, then it's time for the wolf to leave.
@@bardendi6399 you have understood. The wolf could have easily evaded chirins second attack, instead he didn't even move. Chirin was for him like a son. Chirin mattered more for him than his own life did in the end. The wolf, born as a lonely killer, had no other purpose in life than surviving, but he recieved the one thing that gave meaning to his life. A friend like a son. One he could trust. One that even when he killed him, never betrayed him. Wolf basically triggered his inevitable fate and gave himself the best outcome. One with which he could die in Peace.
Quincy Crump Do not take the censorship in this film too seriously, even if he did eat Chirin’s mother, she would have had a large hole in her stomach and a puddle of blood that Chirin somehow ignored, which doesn’t make much sense unless if Wor scared her to death.
actually predators tend to kill every single animal inside an enclosed space, so it's inaccurate that the wolf only killed a couple of sheep. Realistically they should all be dead. And predators don't eat everything they kill, when they see a large number of defenseless animals in a small space they go on killing frenzy and just kill everything even if they only eat one. Foxes and weasels do this all the time, that's why farmers don't like these animals, because if they attack, they just kill everything in sight. Check videos of predators attacking poultry, they just leave everything dead behind.
On reflection, it's a metaphor for feudal Samurai practices. It was common for the Samurai and local lords to sometimes just attack the peasantry, sometimes to test out a new sword, othertimes just for the sake of it. A lot of pieces of Japanese fiction, including this, dicuss this traditional reality of the culture, of the strong preying on the weak out of a sense of duty.
I love it how Chirin's wool is slowly getting pointy, if you compare him to the other sheeps, the other sheeps' wool are more round and soft looking, while Chirin's wool looks more pointy and sharp looking.
Reminds me of The Dark Knight: “Don't talk like one of them. You're not! Even if you'd like to be. To them, you're just a freak, like me! They need you right now, but when they don't, they'll cast you out, like a leper! You see, their morals, their code, it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these... these civilized people, they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve.”
Theres wolf's rain its a bit similar with the Concept of only animals being the Main characters , but as you, japan is not like this anymore and it only wants do hentais now.
I don't remember the last time I cried this hard while watching a movie... This is great, this is awesome... I have always loved Japan for anime and it's culture... I didn't know it was possible for me to love Japan harder but here I am...
"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster...for when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” Friedrich Nietzsche
I think the moral of the story is 'be careful what you wish for'. Eventhough Chirin had good reason for wanting to become more like the wolf, by doing so, he also ended up feared and alone just as the wolf was shown in the beginning.
Sheep: doesn't try to comfort Chirin about his mother's death Chirin: grows up trained by his mother's killer, killing him afterwards, freeing the sheep from him Sheep: avoid Chirin Damn, and I thought the elephant ladies from Dumbo were assholes...
Maybe they no longer recognized him? The last time they saw him, he was a tiny lamb running after the powerful wolf that killed his mother, they more than likely thought he was killed.
So did you do it?
Chirin: Yes.
And what did it cost you?
Chirin: Everything.
Starseeker87 mi familia
So true 😢
Okay I’ve been seeing something like this in the comments of other videos. Now can somebody explain to me the origin of this recurring joke?
dragonstorm12 its a line from Avengers infinity war
Starseeker87 the whole movie summarised through a meme XD
I love the attention to detail in adult chirin. His structure has become very wolflike in his vengeful pursuit.
+UndyingWladeslaus I actually love the attention to detail in young Chirin, his structure seemed looking cute and ticklish before he became a very wolflike ram. I have no Idea how hard I'd be crying if I saw this as a young kid because I've never seen it in my early life.
I guess you could say that he became a ram version of Darth Vader.
+@@puterboy2 Well, Do you know who killed Anakin's mother in the Star Wars movies?
Masse0706 I do. The Tusken Raiders.
+@@puterboy2 Okay, If you ask why because I wanna say that Woe is a wolf version of a Tusken Raider. 😄😁
“Why do the weak always die?”
Chirin, your mother wasn’t weak; she was strong. Her last decision was to protect you.
Being weak is not bad, being strong is just a word
@@fer_nanda4509 Being weak is not bad, choosing to _remain_ weak is the greatest of sins.
@@smh9902 what is being weak, define it, because it has a lot of themes and meanings.
@@fer_nanda4509 Lack of self discipline, lack of personal responsibility, lethargy, content with being unprepared in body and mind for the harshness of the real world, needlessly being dependent on other people, I could go on.
@@smh9902 Sounds like you have a basic and sh 1/tty mind. The world is complex, and that kind of discipline is for people with basic ways of acting. Nobody needs rules like that if they want a good world where there are plenty of complex things.
Believe it or not, but this was made by the same company that created Hello Kitty. Yeah.
If I remember well the same people made Agrettsuko
@@satoshi1435 indeed they do.
Shocking, isn't it?
Aggressive sheep to cute little cats
SANRIO
This is the classic tale of starring into the abyss, and the abyss starring back into you. Become a monster to keep worse monsters at bay, but in the process get rejected by those who you wanted to protect.
That's my favorite kind of character.
Truth
I hope Guts doesn't get that last part, but if it is going to happen it is for a reason.
Sam Beck well he did try to kill the other sheep first
@@cristinasandoval8541 its ok, Guts has the right to either path. because he chooses for himself.
that bell just grew with him
Could be an elastic band
Seems logical for the owners of the sheep to put on a bell around them that is flexible so that they don’t have to change it every time.
It's also symbolic. When chirin was an lamb it serves as a way to find him by his mother but when he's an adult it serves as an warning that the killer demon ram is coming.
not to mention he grew into the anatomy of a wolf and grew large, pointed horns from ramming a tree
And I wonder why cuz he would just let his prey now he was comin! Chirin’s mother: That’s a bad predator for sure.
I love how this children's movie doesn't have a happy ending, because it's kind of cliche. I also like how this children's movie doesn't shy away how harsh, sad and tragic the real world is.
Vvadoicurbal Vvadoicurbal If only Big Hero 6 ended like this...maybe Kingdom Hearts III will end like this.
I would also like to add that there was a book and Takashi Yanase’s books also have at least some unhappy endings. Take The Kindly Lion for example, it ends with the lion and his dog mother dying.
Well I agree with you except the part where you say that happy endings are a cliche because this is simply not the case and there is nothing such as that
@@puterboy2 I wouldn't bet money on that!
Is like try to make spongebob serious.
How Chirin yelled for Woe at the end eerily reminds me of how he cried for his mother when she died, after Woe murdered her instead of Chirin.
Kinda like with Elphaba after she thought she lost Fiyero? If you’ve seen Wicked, you understand me better?
Well be did admit he saw hin as a father
Honestly, he killed both of them...
@@doczirebeka8312 that was deep
@@YourFoodIsBland I mean, Woe killed both of them, if I wasn't understandable enough. From the moment where Woe killed his mum, he destined Chirin to never become a normal sheep, but a monster like him.
Is anyone else amazed how it starts off so fluid like a western cartoon of Disney's caliber, and vontrasts with its rough nature of anime at the second half?
switched from modern Disney to early Pixar damn quick
That is do to, a lot of Early Anime, and Later Early "Slice of Life/Children" Anime were Inspired by Western Anime, and a lot of the Animator , went over to the USA an leadned from the Disney team or later Commissioned by Disney to do a few Carroon short. But of course Japan come up with their own style later.
Garuu popka it just seems that way to you it is just art mate
This is powerful for many reasons. This is a fusion of Bambi, Watership Down, and The Count of Monte Cristo.
Peony Rose What about the Star Wars prequels?
@@puterboy2 I'm afraid I've never watched any of the Star Wars films. There are a lot of movies that share these themes. I just named some of the ones I've seen.
with a pinch of lion king
And a dash of DBZ
I’ve never heard of The Count of Monte Cristo, what’s that?
Idea for an alternative ending that also fits the narrative: Chirin seeks out revenge after training with Woe by trying to become a guardian to his old pasture (or maybe wanders until he finds a new one), defending them from a wolf pack, only to hear the scream of a wolf puppy after he kills its mother that was only trying to hunt for food for her cubs. The realization that he has both doomed the cubs to be motherless like him (and also likely starve to death) shakes him to his core. The puppies are too terrified of him to allow him to help them or apologize, and the flock fears him as well. Accepted by neither wolf nor sheep, just a killer.
This would have been a beautiful ending, I dare to say even better than the ending we actually got. The anime treats this wolf like an individual but your idea shows that neither would accept him, nor other wolves
I'd love to have seen it
It's a good way to put it toobut lacks the shock value of destroying the last being who cared for him and his father figure, Woe. In your interpretation he would just return to live with Woe and in the original, he is totally helpless. No hope, nobody who wants to have anything to do with him and bearing the pain of knowing that he IS the reason why Woe died and he killed him just to impress some sheep who never cared for him and for blind revenge. They did not even comfort him after the loss of his mother nor stopped him from leaving the flock. And Woe, despite Chirin hating him at first was ironically the only one besides him mother who cared about him in his whole life, but he understood that too late and he could do nothing about it. That's why the ending is so tragic in the first place
There is an earlier version of the story where Chirin goes looking for other sheep flocks, but he can't get into any of them because they fear him. Also, do you remember the scene from Moulin Rouge where everyone just stood around watching Christian sob over Satine's corpse after she died? They were giving him space, so did the other sheep with Chirin.
Oh that's incredibly sad :(
40:16 the saddest and most traumatic part of the movie.
this is the part where you can actually see Chirin's spirit be broken and his psyche truly crumble into dust.
you can see it on his face that all the "strength" that he spent his time building was all for nothing to others.
he knew his life meant nothing to him,... but now he was sure it meant nothing to others as well.
it's a god damned shame.
this image is burned into my mind and has been there since before I was 10.
I'm nearly 40 now.
it doesn't get any easier...
Chirin's Story Is Alot Sadder As Heart Of Ice, The Story Of Mr. Freeze
Yankeezcap it really makes one think... powerful story writing for sure
he took a path of vengeance, which lead him into a dark path, and now, after all that, he lost everything....
All that work just to become the very thing he swore to destroy....Really sad if you think about it
This is kinda reality if we had someone more powerful then us we would shut him down just like chirn
Japanese animation back then had that nice fluid animation. I'm impressed.
Thank the West for Inspiring them; and in some cases, some Japanese Animators went to the USA to learned from the Disney Team. Several of most Famous Animators talk about how it was fun learning from Disney and able to blind Western and Easter styles to make something new.
You didn't know it? In that case you have to munch to see! probably you are gonna enjoy it
Its actually quite cheaply done, but for its era it didn't have much to go by, its not like its competing with western animation either.
At this point in time in the west, Hannah Barbara is making most cartoon animation and its doing it cheaply and it notices by how low quality their animations are. There is no profit in animation at this point in the west, this will change very soon in the 80s because America's laws relax on advertising an merchandise tie-ins, giving birth to iconic franchise like My Little Pony, Transformers, Care Bears, and with the Disney resonance, western animation will take a leap ahead of Asian animation until the 2000s.
@@KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven were Disney around in 1910? Because Japan has been making anime since 1910 and its good for its era. Japanese animators are amazingly talented. Just saying...
@@erenyeagerist7681 Walt Disney was born before 1910, but he Didn't get to start his Animation Company until much later.
As for Japan Animtion back then (1910 to 1918)-- Each Animtion segment was based around Folklord and done in the "WoodBlock Style" Japan in known for & had little movement. ( I have watched several and quite enjoy them).
But my original comment was quoting from several official interviews, documentaries, and testimonies where it's Stated that the "Fathers of Modern Animtion" went to the USA and learned from the Diseny Team how to make more lively/colourful Characters which lead to a new style being made.
And before that Japan's "Post Woodblock" animtion was said to be inspired by American Comic Strips (1907) & Felix The Cat who came around in 1918.
But at the end of day all forms of Art/Film are inspired by sources from around the world & ever changing.
Thank you for your comment. 🙂
And I hope you have a wonderful evening.
I felt so bad for Chirin at the end, my sympathy for him never leaves.
Disneyfan82 If only he had Vader’s redemption, but then again, this was released before Return of the Jedi was conceived. Don’t you even agree aside from everyone else that Chirin and Anakin are very much alike?
it's been killing me inside for over 2 decades now.
saw this before I was 10 years old, now I'm over 30...
so damn sad. :(
All his preparation to kill his mother's killer all goes to nothing. The wolf dies an honorable death in the hands of his student while his fellow sheep just turn their back on him way back then when he lost his mother.
Pretty chilling that at the end he's never seen again. Only the sad, mournful sounds of his bell ringing in the cold blizzard winds.
Sounds similar to the story of Echo, how she died of a broken heart with only her voice remaining.
@@absolite6 Nobody deserves to be alone like that. And now I wonder if this is also an allegory of soldiers that entered the war, only to end up losing everything with no home or loved ones left.
やなせたかし先生は、アンパンマンだけでなく、こういう心に沁みる様な作品まで描くからなぁ
やはり天才だ
This movie shows how you are what you choose to be. Your choices reflect you, and how you grow. You can't expect a happy ending always, you have to accept the outcome of your choices. Chirin had the chance of returning to the farm but instead he dedicated his life to avenge his mother instead of moving on, essentially becoming what he had chosen. The price to pay for all that strength and finally killing his mother's murderer was loneliness and society not accepting him for what he had become. He's somehow a tragic hero.
An ending or maybe a new begining. He learned endurance he will survive.
Life isn't always what you choose it to be. Some things are out of your control
I think Mafia III has that quality of storytelling.
Similar to Illidan Stormrage from World of Warcraft.
I saw the English version first but this one seems way more serious and the voice acting is way better
This version knows when to not say anything and let the silence of the scene envelop you.
Fun fact: Chirin's adult voice actor is the same guy who voiced Kenshiro
Felicity Richards ikr! Its perfect
*I AM A RAM!*
@@randomcomment7078 in japanese: i am an sheep.
Vengeance will only end in sorrow...there is no eternal peace in it. He couldn't let it go and went beyond the fence. She made him promise...
Yes, except that she wasn't vengeful and didn't go beyond the fence, and in the end it spared her nothing; she herself died in terror in what should have been the safety of her home. So even a "safe" life is full of risks, and every choice we make-even when we make it for the sake of another-can have unpleasant repercussions. The question is whether we consider and understand all of those repercussions before we find ourselves in the position of having to actually make the choice, and fully accept what they would mean for us over the course of a lifetime. Decisions should not to be made in haste.
It’s like the Sith Code: Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Tobey Maguire: "The night Ben Died. I Hunted down the man who I thought did it. I wanted him dead. I got what I wanted. It didn't make it better. It took me a long time to... Learn to Get through that Darkness.
Even love may end in sorrow
@matthewfox1561 Yeah, in this case, it was a little of both. Because the wolf and himself saw each other as family as well, which is sadly ironic. In the end, he couldn't even return to his herd because he chose to become something unrecognizable, even to himself.
Saddest part when chirin realizes that he killed woe
other really sad part when Chirin realizes that he is not a sheep, he is not a wolf, he is nothing.. and all his efforts to be strongs means nothings or the others sheeps, they don't want to see him.
Not to mention he became what Elphaba was to the Ozians.
IMainAhri 😭😭😭😭
laubrig 0 And in the Lyrica comic, he visits a herd of sheep after he kills Wor, but they’re still frightened of him.
@@_shino__ "He is no longer Jedi, nor Sith, nor man. He has become something..More."-Revanite quote in SWTOR.
生まれてから今まで観た映画のなかで、私が最もココロ動かされた作品です。世界の皆んなに見て欲しい！
私もです。もちろん、小学生だったからというのもありますが、激しい衝撃を受けて、映画館に入る前と出た後で脳が、思考が変わったような思いをした作品です。
@@pearloyster9148I have never seen this movie I wish I had it in the us
初見です。
チリンが母親の死を乗り越え、強くありたいと獰猛な山羊になったのは、私の人生に奇しくも似ている…
今日、このチリンの鈴に出会えた事に感謝、これからは生き方を変えろとの啓示かもしれません。
Wolf was never the Villain in this. He was just living his life, doing what he must and in the end. He chose to show Chirin his life so that one day his son would be the one to end it.
A child cried out for his mother.
Had he chose to grief without revenge in his heart he would have died.
A grown adult cried out for his father figure. Knowing that in the end the only thing he ever wanted has left him forever
And the question is what he did afterwards. Did he died or did leave to find smth else?
I belive he left, it was not in his nature to give up.
@@Raximus3000 It seems more like he just realized he killed the only being left who cared about him, and his soul just got crushed and lost again since the death of his mother. He continued the cycle of suffering Woe once beared, he became a wandering soul who everyone feared and knowed about but nobody wanted to even speak to, he had no place of his to stay.
Well, in other adaptations of the story, Chirin is now a nightmare legend mothers tell to their children: if they cry, Chirin will take them away and kill them.
I think something else worth noting is that Woe sought companionship as well. If he didn't, why not just kill Chirin early on for an easy snack?
Way to cut me deep in the time span of only 45 minutes.
What he didn’t realize is that the eggs were good as dead when the bird died
That's what I thought. 🤔
The wolf was happy to die. He knew his lifestyle would lead to death. He was “honored” to have been killed by the lamb. The fascinating part is the lamb actually got exactly what he wanted, even though he felt bad afterward: to kill the wolf who murdered his mom. However, after achieving this, the lamb realizes he now has nobody to love. His old flock won’t accept him, and the wolf is dead; inevitably this was bound to happen simply because the lamb chose to become as his enemy. Even the wolf said he knew his lifestyle would lead to death- and if not for the lamb, he would have also lived his life in solitude. This begs the question: should the lamb have gone after and then become friends with the wolf in the first place? Had he stayed with his flock, he would have always had somebody to love. Then again, had he not “become a wolf” so to speak, he would not have been the warrior it took to kill the wolf in the end and save his old flock. But who can blame his old flock for not re-accepting him after he attacked them, and who can blame the lamb for killing his “father” the wolf? The film ended the way it should have: the lamb roaming in solitude. This was the path he chose, his “price” for becoming what it took to defeat his enemy. What an accurate depiction of life: for many of us, it seems our life experiences have been pre-determined from the start. Whether we remain with our flocks or become the enemy itself, both negative and positive things will derive either way. Either more sheep will be killed by this particular wolf with nobody there to stop it, OR a traumatized little lamb will cross over to the “dark side”, so to speak, and end up living his life in wandering solitude. The flock should be grateful for the lamb having left to join the wolf, even though I’m sure they talked bad about him behind his back. The lamb truly is a hero in this story, and it can be viewed as though he essentially sold at least a part of his soul to the ways of darkness in order to save his old flock from death. They’ll never appreciate what he did, but at least he did the right thing, in regards to saving his old flock. Even though he’s now a homeless vagabond with nobody to love, at least he did the right thing. He got what he set out to do, yet necessarily by becoming a “wolf” himself, when it come time to kill the real wolf, it was as though the lamb killed a part of himself in the process. Now the lamb lives, we can sometimes hear his bell in the distance; he’s alone, and badly scarred, but he did the right thing, so he lives. 🙏🙏
How does this not have hundreds of likes?
dragonstorm12 aww thank you ❤️😃🙏
I am drowning in tears rn. You are a talented individual to put it into words. Your words are real talent that can mold the world. I will save this. Best wishes, ✌️
It was not the rigth thing, it doesn't make sense, these are just the character choices, but are obviously wrong
@@izzyroses242 Are you serious? He just justify everything repeating the same words in this bibble xD
I think the real lesson is that the farmer should’ve invested in better security for their sheep.
I was going to say what kind of dogs did he have guarding the sheep? If he really wanted to keep the flock safe, the farmer should invest in dogs that can actually stand up to wolves? Like Kangals or Caucasian Shepard's, even just 3 of them can destroy a wolf.
Another idea is install better fencing and electrify it.
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl elec gate? Nah just stronger and more aggressive dogs.
@@amirferdhany3177If the farmer just secured the fence better or had guard dogs, The movie's events would've never happened
Sheep didn't care about Chirin, Woe didn't exactly care for him either.
It's still sad that he didn't fit in anywhere, but I'm kinda glad that he became something more than all of them.
The sheep were like the Jedi. Wor was like Palpatine who understood Chirin/Anakin better than them.
Well Woe cared enough about him to actually train him and take care of him. He could have easily killed him so many times but instead granted Chirin his wish to make him strong.
In his own twisted way, I think he kinda cared for him.
And was the only living thing that accepted him for what he was. Which makes the fact that Chirin killed him to save his heard all the more hearth breaking. Had Chirin allowed Woe to proceed, Woe would probably still have accepted him. But without him, he is alone.
jm somville At least that didn’t happen to Red Harlow...because unlike Chirin, he had allies.
@@puterboy2 i feel revan would be more comparable to chirin than anakin
Gusty How?
I enjoy that the mouths do not move when they speak, it makes it seem like humanity is the only one unable to speak to every other species
They are and it's because of our arrogance
like in 'Princess Mononoke'
I have to admit that sometimes looks a bit weird when some animals moves their lips at the same time they talk. I usually prefer this kind of animation, it's really intense!
Before embarking on a journey of revenge dig two graves one for your enemy and one for yourself
Let me guess? Mr. Miyagi.
@@puterboy2 Confucius actually
少年時代のチリンの声の松島みのりさん、ご冥福をお祈りします。
少年時代のチリン、かわいかったです。
the wolf's name is literally WOE .
woewō/nounhumorousnoun: woe; plural noun: woesgreat sorrow or distress.
Really? I thought it was a play on words, with Chirin screaming Uou's (the Japanese spelling if I recall) name symbolizing him literally being a wolf, howling alone in the mountains. Since well, it sounds like Uwoooo! Like a howl :)
UWU
Don't ruin the word please
In Beauty And The Beast for example Belles name means beauty in French so American media uses foreign words as names for characters all the time too.
Oh woe is Chirin...
Can't believe a cartoon with such great deep meaning and unhappy ending was made almost 40 years ago.
Chirin saying that he’s a sheep felt like someone claiming that they’re still human. After all he’s done, all he’s been through, he still sees a part of himself, who he was, in there. Its even more tragic when he’s rejected by others cause he’s become something completely different. The message of the story hits even harder when you look up how the authors as a soldier in WW2 and how he hated what he had done, what he’d become, the friends and his brother that died but he lived. Chirin is an allegory for the soldier that comes back home, and is no longer the person they were. No longer feeling like they belong. I get sad every time I think about this story. Its wonderfully tragic and mature for a kids story.
Isn’t it also similar to how Elphaba was treated by the Ozians in Wicked?
You have such ways to ruin one’s childhood
子供の頃は無邪気で可愛らしかっチリンなのに、強くなるために修行や経験を重ねた結果他の羊と違って怖い見た目になってしまったなんて。そして、子供の頃のことを思い出してウオーをやっつけたけどウオーを慕い始めていたから辛い思いをして故郷にも戻れない状態になってしまったなんて辛すぎる。
Fun fact: this short was based on a book by Takashi Yanase, the creator of the popular children’s series “Anpanman.”
Also, adult Chirin was voiced by Akira Kamiya, better known for voicing Kenshiro from “Fist of the North Star.” Woe was voiced by the late Seizo Katoh, best known as the Japanese voice of Megatron.
Was there an English dub called Rambell or Rambo or something because I swear when I was a kid that’s what it was calles
Called*
@@jessiewilkinson520 No. It was called Ringing Bell. It was released on VHS by RCA Columbia Home Video and it featured the voices of Barbara Goodson and Gregg Berger.
I read that book. There are other versions.
@@jessiewilkinson520 You know that would've been a better title
I'm glad I found this, it seems like a (relatively unknown) gem. It's a fascinating story, very thought-provoking and complex (not to mention dark) for a kids' movie. I think what I find especially sad about Chirin is that at the end, he remembers who he really is and sees the error of his ways, but this realisation comes too late. He's burned too many bridges, done too many things that can't be undone, gone too far down Bad Choice Road, and there's no coming back for him. In such a scenario we as audiences are conditioned to expect to see such a character go through a redemption arc, but Chirin never gets one. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but I do like a story that refuses to pander to the audience in this way.
I love the soundtrack to this film too, it's so haunting and atmospheric, and it makes the whole thing that much more memorable and emotionally impactful.
I say it is the superior Star Wars Prequel Trilogy or Vinland Saga.
@@puterboy2 Yep, definitely superior.
Chirin is a true tragic villain that had nobody to turn to. If only Unico or Sailor Moon were around to reach into his shattered soul.
幼年期チリン役の松島みのりさんが2022年4月8日にお亡くなりになりました。
ご冥福をお祈りいたします。
Ms. Matsushima Minori who acted young Chirin's voice died April 8th 2022.
R.I.P.
1981年頃のある日の昼間、このアニメのテレビ放映を偶然見て、幼い自分には衝撃的で、ずーっと印象に残っていました。20年ほど前、ネットが普及しだした頃、覚えていたストーリーをもとに検索し、「チリンの鈴」と作品名を知ることができました。今、37年ぶりに見ることができ、感激しています。ありがとう。
_"Revenge is never a straight line. It's a forest, and like a forest it's easy to lose your way... to get lost... to forget where you came in."_
--Hattori Hanzo, _Kill Bill: Volume 1_
I have a better one.
"Revenge is like a poison, it can take you over and before you know it, it can turn you into something ugly." -Aunt May, Spider-Man 3.
i like how the original japanese version doesn't have as much voice over as the english dub. it adds a lot more emotion to the film.
Some may interpret this story as a typical revenge plot, with the underlying moral that vengeance is unsatisfying. To me, that aspect of the film seemed secondary to the message that one should try to find the good in the hand you are dealt.
Yes, the sheep are basically helpless and live on borrowed time, but they find comfort in their lambs and their pasture while it lasts. Contrariwise Woe is an absolute badass but the loneliest creature in the film. He doesn’t even seem to enjoy doing what he does, attributing all his actions and routines to nature’s plan for him.
Chirin’s inability to acknowledge or accept things about himself that he simply cannot change led him to fall between two worlds, having the skillset of a wolf and the mindset of a sheep (specifically, the ability to feel empathy).
And if you are hopeful you will assume he left that littel world for smth else.
Woe was a lone wolf; a miserable being. Quite possibly, he may have had some empathy with the sheep. Wolves live in packs like sheep live in herds. That might be one of the reasons why he took Chirin in. Chirin was a "lone sheep" like he was a "lone wolf". Perhaps Woe was a happy little lamb like Chirin at one time but lost his pack to tragedy and he had to strike it on his own and learn to face the savage world by himself. Or maybe he was banished from the pack and he became callous and cold. We don't know _Woe's_ story, only Chirin's. So we can't know for sure Woe's intentions. We do know that he's aware of the natural order; he's a predator, he kills to survive. He didn't kill the bear, for example, and he only killed one deer in that herd. He killed Chirin's mom on accident when attacking Chirin, who got too close to his kill. Likely the attack on Chirin's old pasture was a challenge and a test. We also know he's a cold and callous creature, whether that's because of his solitude or what caused his solitude is unknown.
Chirin running through the black smoke and crossing the bridge as it crumbles behind him shows that he’s crossing a line and there’s no going back… they don’t make them like they use to
Looking back, I think if Chirin stayed on the farm, he would have been killed for meat. Because the only grown sheep shown on the farm were ewes and not a ram in sight, neither was Chirin's biological father discussed. So he would have had to leave for his freedom and face harsh reality of being someone's food, regardless of whether or not Woe killed his mother. Either way, he would have never been able to stay on the farm for life.
Or they just moved the male ones to another fenced area and let the males and females mate when the time is right, then out back in there places.
His dad is in the kamishibai version of the story.
Sure glad I didn’t see this as a kid,
It would’ve scarred me for life.
Me too
Same with me probably
Gosh there’s so much I love about this movie... I think part of what I love (I realized) is how it really isn’t a “talky” movie. It allows the visuals to convey as much as the dialogue. And even moments that are more limited in movement are still super detailed and expressive!!
I think worth noting is that Chirin has a very human looking face at the end, which is a very interesting decision. I know that there are folks pointing out how physically he is also very wolf-like, but his face is what is so surreal by the end. Let alone how demonic his horns are, what feels so tragic is that to me you don't think about what the world around you is doing to you as you make your decisions in life. But Chirin's life from the start is marked by tragedy, so it makes it feel unfair for him to realize what is going on. It's a pretty dense, overdetermined image that is tapping into quite a bit about how people end up in life.
If there's anything I can appreciate it for, it's for not valorizing learning to just hurt people relative to how most people normally go about their lives. The ability to hurt or kill others, for the sake of it, is not something most people will welcome into their lives.
Kinda like Darth Revan’s story?
I cried when Chirin realized his mother was dead, I'll admit it. I don't cry often in media. They all follow the same cookie-cutter pattern so I know what to expect. You know, the rain, sad music, dark tones, blah blah. But this was so violent, so horrible, so _childish_ it killed me. Very well done. I've never seen this movie before. I'm glad I finally have!
Revenge is a dish best not served. That's a motto I love. Just the idea of "You slay the monster you work so hard to defend against only to become it" is horrifying and amazing. It's underutilized and when it's done well, it's just... AMAZING. The whole time I was silently hoping for a happy ending. Some part of me knew that this _couldn't_ have a happy ending, but also... it's a movie; likely a kid's movie. They always have happy endings. Right? Wrong. And I'm SO GLAD I was wrong. His journey was heartbreaking and looking back at how happy he was as a lamb to now is a real journey. Sheep rams have curled, sturdy horns for ramming into each other. They could break bones! The fact his horns were curled _forward_ for stabbing and shadowed his eyes spoke a lot about his physical, predator-esc design. He built himself for killing. Unlike the soft sheep, he was frazzled, feral, _murderous._ Even after killing Woe, he certainly didn't endear himself to the fluffy sheep. He'd made too many mistakes, scratched too far into the stone, to turn himself back. He'd made himself into a wolf wearing a sheep's wool, and wolves didn't live in sheep flocks.
This hit harder than infinity war.
Peter Huynh What about Revenge of the Sith?
@@puterboy2 My vote's gonna go to revenge of the sith. Chirins bells doesn't hold a candle to revenge of the sith.
@@puterboy2 Wait until you Watch Endgame.
🤣🤢🤮
@@KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven still wins over end game for me
A Classic Samurai Film, Told with the Use of Animals. Love it.
Edit: also a bit of Star Wars vibes mixed in.
Kaegan Thornhill that’s the beauty of it
Star Wars has a lot of Japanese samurai influence! Death Vader’s design is based on samurai armor
Exactly! I got the exact same vibe watching it
Fun fact: Chirin chirin is japanese onomatopoeia for the sound of a bell.
最終目標であるウォーを倒したことでチリンの願いは終わってしまった。チリンはその後の事を考えていなかったのだろう。
復讐が成功しても亡くなった母は帰ってくるはずもなく、最後は全て失う。
復讐はどちらかというと良いものではないが、絶望した者の生きる糧になるのなら良いのかもしれない。
A beautiful masterpiece. It'd be nice if they remade it. This was touching to my heart, and it almost made me cry.
In this movie, the lesson is that vengeance can't give your heart freedom. It only cracks it until your heart becomes the only one broken... Chirin had his innocence taken away from him.
Sadly, some people now days suffer vengeance or pure heartbreak. This is an example of how some people can become like Chirin. A broken soul...
Yum Tacos I am exactly like him
@@wyattcleveland2461 Me too
if i could i'd kill my abusers i'll never forgive those fucks
Living to please someone is not good, and the opposite end, living to prove someone wrong, is not good either. Both instances your intentions are sourced from relying on another person, and not yourself.
Why does it need remaking? It's fine as it is.
The scene with the bird and eggs hits hard for me. Such a short yet amazing movie
If it makes you feel any better, it wasn’t in the book.
Precisely zero people expected Sanrio, the creators of Hello Kitty, to produce a deeply adult, profound tragedy, and as a cartoon no less. Arguably one of the better Animes of the late seventies.
It was also written by Takashi Yanase, the creator of Anpanman.
やなせたかしさんはアンパンマンで有名ですが、残した作品たちには悲しいものも多いですね。
その一つをサンリオが制作した事には驚きました。
まさにこのストーリーは時代を先取りしたものと言えるでしょう。
somebody on instagram said its bambi cousin from the hood😂😩
lmao
Bambi? You gotta be shitting me. He is nothing like Bambi. I say more Darth Revan really.
Okay, here is what i learnt.. I heard a quote from American Sniper where the dad teaches their son about that there is sheep, wolves and sheep dogs..
Sheeps are the common people enjoying their freedom of living, wolves are those that preys on common people and sheep dogs are the ones fighting the wolves so that the sheeps may live in peace..
But this movie changed everything in my perspective... Chirin's life was a mix of all three animals.. He was a innocent sheep, learned the way of wolves, became a sheepdog by protecting the flock...
The wolf felt pride during his death, the sheep felt relieved that they lived to see the sun another day, but what Chirin felt is unexplainable emptiness.. The story made us audience feel that emptiness too which is reality..
This is a heartbreaking story of how the first mountain goat came to be...
makes me think of a post i saw about tragedies that said, “a really good tragedy is one in which it simultaneously seems like there are a million and one moments in which a single character could’ve made a different choice and everything could’ve ended up better, and like nothing could ever have averted this terrible end. knowing the characters could have made a different choice, but also knowing those particular characters never would have.” chirin, woe, the sheep all could have made choices at any time that would’ve changed the outcome of the story, but in the end, you know there’s no other way for this story to play out. chirin would seek to cope with his circumstances, woe would live by his beliefs, and the sheep would value safety above all else. there’s no other way for chirin’s story to end, but that’s the great thing about tragedies; it tells us this story still matters, even though it didn’t get to have a happy ending. chirin did everything he could given his circumstances and his character, and even though it ended sad for him, his story still matters.
The same applies to any other character with a tragic mistake.
狼はとても愛情深かった…彼を越えたことでチリンは本当に彼の息子となった。
幼少期にビデオで観てたけど、見る度にカーテンの裏に包まって泣いてた記憶。
I cried soooooo much. Expecially because i have a strange connection with lambs. I loved them when i was little because of a song that my mom used to sing me everytime. Now that i saw this, it broke my heart
小さい頃、なぜかすごく好きで何回もビデオで見てたな、、懐かしい、、
やなせたかしって天才だね…
今更だけど
Ive always wondered if Chirin and the beast of japan myth Kirin are one in the same.
Kirin was known as a legendary hooved beast that has existed in asian culture for thousands of years.
The description isnt too far off from Chirin as an adult and his location in the end fits with the myth of where it is said you can find Kirin.
I wouldnt be suprised if the author had some intention of this being the origin story of the myth.
ウォーが優しくて泣けてくる。 そして成長チリンかっこよすぎｗ そして・・・切ない。
I guess you could say Chirin is a wolf in sheep's clothing
that joke was so bad that when i liked the comment it removed a like
@@xXobama0Xx ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Or an sheep in wolf's clothing.
@@andrewgan557 nice idea, but that would make more sense if Chirin was an actual wolf and was frightful and meek like a sheep, rather than being a sheep that was fierce and bloodlusting like a wolf
@@JackofArts or the animal might look like an wolf and act like one but it's foot got hooves on it's toes
Hm... I'm curious if the wolf knew his student wouldn't be able to go through with killing the sheep and would then turn on him?..
Because between how he talked about the fate of the lone wolf, being proud, and how he really didn't try all that hard to dodge Chirin's last attack.
It really seems like the wolf may not have only knew it would happen, but may have purposely givin Chirin the task of attacking his old home just for that very reason.
Of course it was planned, i think from the very beginning.
The wolf knew better than anyone that training that sheep and taking it with him would only be to corrupt it, he saw through Chirin's soul, still that couldn't convert him into a traitor to his blood, specially when the reason he even went with the wolf was, as he said, to kill him; to protect his relatives from something he thought was injust, the intentions of his heart were pure, not really vengeance.
But as the wolf told him, that's just how this world is supposed to be. And the sheep had to go through that to understand it.
The wolf decided his fate when he didn't kill Chirin as a lamb. He choose him to be the one to end his life. He took him to attack the sheeps to finally show him what is like to be a "wolf", which was what Chirin wanted, but could never be; so he could complete the mission of his childhood, kill him. The wolf was proud that the lamb couldn't have his heart corrupted, that he finally understood his place, his nature, even if he, now, was something else: not a wolf, not even a sheep, and with no home.
The movie is pretty much symbology. A lot of times we let the world corrupt us so we can "overcome" it, to be tougher than it, but the only who overcomed the world is God. He uses trials and sorrow to teach us. It gets to a point where God puts you to reveal your heart, and if you have learned, then it's time for the wolf to leave.
@@bardendi6399 you have understood.
The wolf could have easily evaded chirins second attack, instead he didn't even move.
Chirin was for him like a son. Chirin mattered more for him than his own life did in the end. The wolf, born as a lonely killer, had no other purpose in life than surviving, but he recieved the one thing that gave meaning to his life. A friend like a son. One he could trust. One that even when he killed him, never betrayed him.
Wolf basically triggered his inevitable fate and gave himself the best outcome. One with which he could die in Peace.
what the heck kind of wolf shows up, kills some sheep and then just leaves without eating them or taking them with him?
Quincy Crump Do not take the censorship in this film too seriously, even if he did eat Chirin’s mother, she would have had a large hole in her stomach and a puddle of blood that Chirin somehow ignored, which doesn’t make much sense unless if Wor scared her to death.
actually predators tend to kill every single animal inside an enclosed space, so it's inaccurate that the wolf only killed a couple of sheep. Realistically they should all be dead. And predators don't eat everything they kill, when they see a large number of defenseless animals in a small space they go on killing frenzy and just kill everything even if they only eat one. Foxes and weasels do this all the time, that's why farmers don't like these animals, because if they attack, they just kill everything in sight. Check videos of predators attacking poultry, they just leave everything dead behind.
On reflection, it's a metaphor for feudal Samurai practices. It was common for the Samurai and local lords to sometimes just attack the peasantry, sometimes to test out a new sword, othertimes just for the sake of it. A lot of pieces of Japanese fiction, including this, dicuss this traditional reality of the culture, of the strong preying on the weak out of a sense of duty.
Solid point. Thanks.
Damn, I wasn't aware of that. That explains a lot about The Rape of Nanking and Unit 731.
That turned out differently from what I expected, and how. Now I know where Black Waltz #1's chiming bell in a snow storm theme comes from.
I love it how Chirin's wool is slowly getting pointy, if you compare him to the other sheeps, the other sheeps' wool are more round and soft looking, while Chirin's wool looks more pointy and sharp looking.
I think bc he is male
The opening song playing at the end makes it so much sadder... damn
なんか凄い！
言葉では言い表わせない感情が
残りました。
深すぎます。
Reminds me of The Dark Knight: “Don't talk like one of them. You're not! Even if you'd like to be. To them, you're just a freak, like me! They need you right now, but when they don't, they'll cast you out, like a leper! You see, their morals, their code, it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these... these civilized people, they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve.”
Funny you should mention that. I think Chirin is a bit like Batman…in a way.
ヴィンランドサガ見た時これ思い出しました
重くて切ない
変わり果てたチリンの声が明さんということに驚きを隠せない自分がいる。
キン肉マンとミートくんがチリンの声の方です
I miss this kind of Japanese anime. Japan doesn't make anime like this now anymore
Hi no tori 1986
ruclips.net/video/pFvB2YhKvEM/видео.html
Theres wolf's rain its a bit similar with the Concept of only animals being the Main characters , but as you, japan is not like this anymore and it only wants do hentais now.
@@Zxtormy_Fox ikr. It is disappointing indeed.
What has Japan fallen into? Have they been consuming drugs?
Time changed, old anime and modern anime shows that quite a lot actually.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?
What's that?
You mean the tragedy of Darth Chirin the Ram-Wolf.
Pathetic.
@@puterboy2 Wow amazing
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I don't remember the last time I cried this hard while watching a movie... This is great, this is awesome... I have always loved Japan for anime and it's culture... I didn't know it was possible for me to love Japan harder but here I am...
子供とポケモンで遊んでいる時ポケモンが進化して強くなるのをみて「チリンの鈴」を思い出し、たしか弱っちい山羊か羊がめっちゃ強くなったっけなぁ〜って検索したらまさかRUclipsで見れるとは！！
ありがとうございます❤
今これのアンソロジーを描いてますが本当に辛いお話です。
"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster...for when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” Friedrich Nietzsche
That is also what happened to Anakin Skywalker.
Also "Revenge is like a poison. It can take us over. And before you know it. It can turn us into something ugly." --Aunt May
I'm getting mad Sasuke vibes from chirin. the only difference is there is no sharingan
same haahaha, Sasuke??
I just commented saying this is naruto 😂 uchiha madara vibes from woe
Chirins reaction to his mom death is too realistic and gut wrenching ugh
All that is lacks is her stomach ripped open.
I think the moral of the story is 'be careful what you wish for'.
Eventhough Chirin had good reason for wanting to become more like the wolf, by doing so, he also ended up feared and alone just as the wolf was shown in the beginning.
これのぬいぐるみが大好きで、気になって映画見たけど一日涙が止まらなかった…本当に可愛い
R.I.P Minori Matsushima
Japanese voice of Young Chirin.
原作絵本の重さを更に重く悲しくしたエンドですね......
Kids now: Aw man, puberty sucks!
Chirin: *You think?*
I mean, what the hell was those proportions at 32:45 he killed his prey by droping his head on them
@@isaahWii No you don't understand, he's showing them the crushing truth of being a disturbed adult.
31:01 the moment Chirin went full emo
You mean...”Chirin has turned to the dark side”
Nah, an emo would've quit at that point, he's on beast mode
Twitterから。
なにこれ切ない…
Whoever did the music for the film did an amazing job for the ost. Especially Chirin's leitmotif as the story progresses
The sound effects are so evocative. I guess this a parable of a Samurai legend of some sort.
Sheep: doesn't try to comfort Chirin about his mother's death
Chirin: grows up trained by his mother's killer, killing him afterwards, freeing the sheep from him
Sheep: avoid Chirin
Damn, and I thought the elephant ladies from Dumbo were assholes...
Not as much as the Jedi were assholes to Anakin?
I hate them so much. at least the child lambs were willing to engage
Maybe they no longer recognized him? The last time they saw him, he was a tiny lamb running after the powerful wolf that killed his mother, they more than likely thought he was killed.
The most beautiful movie I’ve seen.
内容が壮絶すぎる！
子供の頃に見てたなぁ…懐かしい
It's okay Chirin...no one's ever REALLY gone.
And people say Simba realizing his dad is dead is the saddest 😭
Simba? Are you fucking kidding me? What about Eren from Attack on Titan or the Vinland Saga?
@@puterboy2 wait what about Eren??
@@numberone2676 Eren lost his mom too and he became the thing he wanted to kill just like Chirin.
What an adorable main character, i'm sure this will be a wholesome feel good story i can show to my children
An timeless sweet tale with an sad and emotional ending 😢 as well
This is truly a masterpiece.
Not surprised a furry is saying this
@@BobbiHiru I am *not* a furry! It's just something a friend drew for me