@@cryobyte33Hello cryobyte. I hope you're doing well. I've noticed that update 1.61 brought FSR 2.1 to cyberpunk 2077, so I was wondering if you were going to do a new performance video for the game?
As a note about the vented backplate: 1. I tested VRMs, ICs, the SSD and the RAM for temperatures with the vented backplate and saw less than 1 degree difference from the stock backplate. 2. A lot of air still gets taken in through the rear vent, even with the vented backplate, so I have very few concerns with device longevity, but wanted to be fully transparent! Edit: I used the "sensors" command for SSD and motherboard temperatures, spot checked with the other results I gathered from MangoHUD. The ICs and VRMs were a bit more difficult. I used a temperature probe wired through the back vent to measure the surface temperatures, and verified its accuracy with a backplate-off IR thermometer test. Obviously the backplate-off results are cooler, but I verified that the probe was accurate that way.
Finally bro, thank you for relieving my stress with the vented back plate. I bought it but started to think about how tf air passively cools the Ics, ram, etc
I love this video, but I wish you went into as much detail about your validation of all critical component temperatures as you did with the rest of the testing methodology. The airflow the way Valve designed it is very much needed to keep things like the charging IC and MEM4 within safe temperatures, as per GN's analysis. While I am definitely open to the idea that the JSAUX backplate could be an improvement all around and would love the performance/aucoustic gains, I would need some more details than (crudely put, I am sorry) "trust me, I did some testing and it all seemed fine to me" in a comment. It seems like you actually did some thermocouple testing, I would have love it if that was included in the video! I'd love to modify my Deck in this way, but as it stands the details as to the thermal safety of doing so just aren't enough for me to risk my Deck.
Your videos are really cool! But what about the power consumption? If the SoC has more headroom in terms of temperature and therefore keeps the clock more stable, it should also consume a little more power, right? Or is that compensated by the lower power consumption of the slower rotating fan?
Kyle. You are the gift that just keeps on giving! There is a lot of scattered content on thermal modding but the video you created has the next level of polish to it. Sincere thank you from the community.
I'd looked at thermal pads on Steam Deck to see if it was worth it, but never found any benchtest I could trust, but you went above and beyond as always! Seems like the backplate + thermal pad combo is absolutely worth it!
Would you consider making a follow up video on this when used in the long run? As you stated, there *could* be issues with removed airflow to other components, but it's probably impossible to tell in such a short amount of time. Would be interesting to see how or if it changes with time.
I might be able to later, but I might be doing other mods in the meantime so it'd be hard to isolate changes. What I can tell you, though, is that: 1. I tested VRMs, ICs, the SSD and the RAM for temperatures with the vented backplate and saw less than 1 degree difference from the stock backplate 2. A lot of air still gets taken in through the rear vent, even with the vented backplate. Hopefully this alleviates some of your concerns, thank you for watching!
@@cryobyte33 Thank you so much for taking time to respond! I ordered a backplate now, I understand it's at my own risk but I feel at ease now, regardless of how it goes
@@jhooGs Nope, not by any stretch of the imagination! You'd likely need a 8C+ difference over a long period, or 15C+ in the shorter term to make a significant difference of any sort.
It would be awesome if you did a Steam Deck OLED thermal mod including re-introducing thermal pads, thermal plate mod (to accommodate the pads contact), and PTM9750 APU instead of thermal paste, and the JSAUX back!
@@cryobyte33 the new thermal plate on the OLED unit has an insulating layer, and cut-outs in it for where the thermal pads from the heat pipe touch the metal plate. You’d have to cut the black insulation plastic layer wherever a thermal pad touches. The new OLED model doesn’t have thermal pads on most components now… It’s a cost cutting measure. You’ll see it if you look at the Gamer Nexus teardown to see what I mean.
Thank you for these tests... Unlike a certain RUclipsr that just screamed "higher temp bad" a while back, you did some great work looking into it. Amazing work!
Because of your video I also bought the Honeywell pad and the JSAux backplate. Its crazy how quiet the deck is now! Thank you so much! (Especially for cryotools!)
Thank you for watching! I'm just here to present the information, and I don't want to detract from it. Aside from trying to improve retention and make a few jokes, I'll be standing strong 😁
I just got my Vented JSAUX backplate today, and WOW the difference is instantly noticable! Any graphically intensive game would be loud as hell, but now it's super quiet, and GPU and CPU didn't go over 70c the whole time! Well worth the $30, was super easy to install too, highly recommended 👌 Thanks for this super informative video, never would have found this was it not for your awesome content 👍
Thank you so much for watching and for trying out the backplate! It's been a huge change in daily usability and I'm glad that you're getting the same results that I am 😁
Finally the Monoblock! I’m using the old jasaux backplate, new paste, monoblock and Fantastic from Decky. Temps are great with the custom fan curve. The monoblock with the back plate moves a ton of heat but boy does it get hot! Looking forward to the next video!
Geebus this video was great. We had so my opinions and "I think this or that" in the community and now finally we have this glorious comprehensive test that told us a LOT. Thank you Cryo for another amazing set of tests.
Thanks for confirming that I made the right choice to replace the thermal paste with ptm7950 when I replaced my thumb sticks last month! Now I have a reason to get a backplate. 😁 Oh and I'm excited about the results of that monoblock! Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for the very kind comparison! I love Steve's work and I aspire to be similar in some ways, but then improve in others 😁 Hopefully I'll be able to get a little more than just Steam Deck content sometime too 😉
I'd like to see the temps of the charging IC and the SSD with the new Jsaux backplate. That extra cent hole probably hurts those way more than it helps the APU
I actually did test the VRMs, SSD, RAM and ICs (and mention it in the concerns section), they were within 1 degree of stock and gave me no reason to worry whatsoever 🙂 The fan still pulls air through the back vent and the metal plate also contacts the heatsink (which is getting better cooling). Thanks for watching, I hope this helps!
@@cryobyte33 apricides for video but I must ask - how you measured temps of IC, SSD, VRMs and battery? I heard yours concerns but I have mine as well ruclips.net/video/NeQH__XVa64/видео.html With this hole above fan I treat this backplate like there is no backplate at all because negative airflow is interrupted. I wonder what temps of battery are at your tests while gaming with docked deck.
@@RetroWaveArcades While negative airflow is interrupted, it still pulls a ton of air through the back plate. The fan can pull quite a bit more air than normally gets to it. As for the temperatures, I used the "sensors" command for SSD and motherboard temperatures, spot checked with the other results I gathered from MangoHUD, and checked. The ICs and VRMs were a bit more difficult. I used a thermocouple temperature sensor wired through the back vent to measure the surface temperatures, and verified its accuracy with a backplate-off IR thermometer test. GN does really good work, and I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to argue with Steve's results. All I know is that I did the best I could to to verify that this would be safe for long-term use. 🙂
I recently fitted the 'old' jsaux back plate. I removed the thermal pad prior to installing the shell.. I wasn't after a shell to cool the deck down, more for the looks, since I opted for a transparent purple back plate. I don't notice any difference in temps... but now I feel that I maybe shouldn't of removed the thermal pad.. The reason I removed it, because I heard that the pad actually blocks the air from passing from the vent at the back to the fan.
I need more guidance about putting thermal pads on the steam deck since I can't follow the process due to editing (and because I'm a noob 😅) did you put a thermal pad on the valve chip too? An installation guide would be helpful 🙏 Which size did you buy those thermal pad?
I put the pad only on the heat spreader, which the contacts the APU that you're speaking of. It's really easy, just treat it like thermal paste using iFixIt's guide 🙂 Thank you for watching!
Jsaux new backplate with thermal pad and fan intake vent looks promising especially if you want a quieter Steam Deck, but I'm worried it cools down the APU better but removes airflow to other critical components like SSD, ddr ram memory dies, voltage regulators, battery and other components that might get too hot now and fail earlier!
I mention that concern near the end of the video, but also mention that I watched all those temperatures and that they stayed identical and have given me no reason to worry about them 🙂 Thank you for watching, I'm glad it helped you out!
when you think about it... its much like a normal desktop pc right... the only components that typically get direct contact cooling with fan assistance or water cooling are the gpu and cpu with some motherboards getting a fan on the chipset but its often not required. everything else will have a smaller heat sink that is cooled passively, as long as that original opening is not blocked then even with the fan being open to get its air supply it should still drag air in from the original opening, i just dont see it being an issue, all components should get adequately passively cooled.
I have the OG JSAUX Backplate and I also did a repaste but after watching this video I bought the thermal pad as well as the new jsaux backplate. My temps on my OC Deck have been basically always in the 80s so seeing those temps drop will be greatly appreciated
Another amazing vid and now another performance upgrade rabbit hole I find myself in. Looking around online seems like a graphene thermal pad should not be used in the deck, what's your take?
The video is mind blowingly informative and the information conveyed accurate, but for the love of God, please don't show yourself. You are ruining your hard work by doing so.
I'm sorry that you don't like how I look, but with the recent stressed I've put on quite a bit of weight. I'm working to lose it, but please remember that you don't know someone else's situation, and it's unfair to judge them like you do!
I know you just did all this work and seriously thank you, but I'd love to see some of data for TG's new kryosheet also. That is what I'm running on both my ally and deck and from some rough testing it seems to be performing quite a bit better than stock pastes for both and even the kryonaut extreme I had on the deck prior. People like you shouldering the extreme time investment and hard work to not only do all the testing but consolidate and present it to the community really drives everything forward and makes everyone's lives easier. THANK YOU
Thank you so much for watching, and for the recommendation! I can't order any more products while I;m still here in Sweden, but I'll try to order it after I'm back in to US and do another cooling test video 😉 I'm really happy I was able to help a bit, hopefully it won't be too long before I can follow-up!
Great video! I do have a gen1 jsaux plate still.. its very hot lol i added a heat sink (2 next to each other) to the back and got cooler cpu and gpu temps but of course still hot as hell to the touch. Have you heard of the thermal pad issue people had where theyve cut out a section for the air channel? If so, would you recommend i do the same if i keep my gen1 jsaux backplate?
I was thinking about getting the PTM7950 and new JSAUX backplate, but was concerned what the actual games were. This video definitely helps make my decision easier. I might just get the backplate and use some thermal paste I already have. Don’t want to setup the PTM7950 if it is all going to come out for a p3r. FYI I saw Salocin900 posted a video of an updated Steam Deck which has different mounting screw locations for the heat pipe. Might be an issue for the p3r if Valve has significantly changed the design.
something i use that you may want to check out is a graphene thermal pad. it goes over the gpu and is pretty thin. beats putting paste way deep in there.
another piece of top-notch content as usual! your dedication to thorough and fair testing is admirable, thank you so much for all of your hard work :) this info is very valuable and i'll definitely be considering purchasing at least one of these products in the future!
Amazing and thorough as always, super glad to see someone scientifically conduct testing of the PTM7950 with respect to burn in and thoughtful application. Cheers!
Man, dont think ive ever done this before but ...subscribed, hit the bell, dropped a like and even commenting. Amazing content. Thank you for the time you dedicated putting this all together.
Thanks for the video! Some dB(A) info for you: - This measurement is on a logarithmic scale - Every 10 dBA is equivalent to a doubling of sound pressure. - Example: 2.7dBA is NOT 2.7x louder - that's closer to 30% louder IF measuring the exact same tone. - Example: an 80 dBA sound is 4X "louder" than a 60dBA one. This is the difference between a normal conversation face to face and a movie theater. - dBA is a measure of sound pressure - not necessarily perceived volume, and: - Higher frequencies will generally sound much louder to us than lower ones at the exact same dBA measurement.
I knew about the logarithmic scale and the frequency thing, but not the rest, thank you so much for explaining! I'll screenshot your comment and be sure to follow up with more research where needed, I appreciate it! ❤️
To be honest, I don't follow this account, I've never seen another of his videos, I don't even have a Steam Deck, and I just accidently came across here. I'm strangely intrigued and thoroughly enjoyed the effort and thought process of this video. Keep up the good work dude!
Yes bro, just use Decky and the plug-in called Fantastic which helps you to max out the fan speed but it's still the usual speeds the fan could go if temperature goes over 80°c
Thank you for your work! Have you tested the temperature in Killswitch or Spigen cases? It feels like the temperature is increasing slightly, but I wanted to have some comparison numbers to make a decision.
In terms of the clip on fan from Jsaux which is only compatible with the stock backplat, I purchased two different versions of this, there is a kickstand built into the foot of the clip on fan which allows you to stand it. Also, there is a version which does not require the clip from Jsaux and is sold seperately as part of the ModCase, but it includes a metal stick on connector that also gives you the latch from the ModCase which lets you add other ModCase components (but not at the same time). I also tried PTM7950 and that was a total bust, in fact in some cases it made my Steam Deck hotter and definately made the standard case back a lot warmer. Maybe it depends on what model of Steam Deck you are testing on and if Valve used different paste in construction.
A friend of mine just sent me a photo of a new revision of steam deck, the CPU cooler mounting mechanism is completely different. In your and mine steam deck, we have RAM in between the fan and the SOC, the new version don't, and SOC is closer to the fan. The EMI metal shield is now painted black instead of the bare metal look.
sooooo should i just mod the old backplate i have to have vents to save some money and reap better cooling? im not worried about the heat of the old metal backplate.
I did exactly this. I stupidly bought two of the old back plates before the new one was announced. Instead of buying another I took a dermal and made my own vents/holes where the fan is. Then I bought some small heat sinks and attached them to the back plate to transfer more heat away. Also added some thermal pads inside the deck too. Let's just say it really works. The heatsinks are small enough that I can still play comfortably with almost no weight difference and the heat from the back plate was never a concern of mine. I have my deck overclocked too. A little more than what cryo has his set at and have gotten similar temp numbers.
That's definitely possible, several comments have actually said they've done this! As long as the hole is similarly sized and located, your results should be comparable to the vented plate 🙂 Thanks for watching!
Just a question about the PTM install, I noticed you used a piece wider than the die itself, I read that PTM is electrically conductive, so do you need to protect the area around the die as well? thanks
Are there any updates on your concerns with cooling? I have the backplate myself and have had it about 3 months now. No issues on my end but i am by no means running testing on it.
@@cryobyte33 Thanks for responding! I was gonna ask the same question to see if your SD spontaneously combusted or something. Based on responses from Reddit, they make it seem like all the other components will die due to increased heat. They love saying how valve did negative pressure for a reason etc.
@@cryobyte33 thank you so much for replying. Your work is greatly appreciated. Huge fan here. I also have had no issues and the lower temps have been awesome.
Can some one tell me if I took the old backplate and just used a Dremel to add similar vents to the new version backplate if that will make the heat performance be similar? I'm trying to get an all red transparent shell but they don't make the new version in red. I guess having a red and purple color transparent shell won't be a deal breaker either
I've seen other viewers say that performance will be similar if you use the same size/shape of the vent in the same location, so you're likely safe to do so. I'll try it out once I get some tools after moving back to the US. Thanks for watching!
@@cryobyte33 the fact that you of all people responded to me makes me feel really cool! thank you so much for your input! automatic sub. cant wait for your results!
EDIT: CAPS FOR CLARITY. I TESTED IT MYSELF. I FOUND THE CONTROLLER CONFIG TEST IN THE SETTINGS. PLACED THE DECK DOWN, AND IT DOES IN FACT CLICK WITH THE LARGEST BUTTONS WHICH IS REALLY UPSETTING. I AM GOING TO CONTACT JSAUX AND ASK THEM IF THEIR CASE DOES THE SAME. I AM UN SURE IF THE SMALLER BUTTONS TOUCH ON THE DECK I WILL REMOVE THE BACKPLATE AND ADD THEM AND THEN TEST THAT LATER TODAY. I know this is a long shot, but i figured you would at least maybe respond to my question. I finally got the Jsaux vented backplate. I put in the longer buttons in the back of the plate and staggered them so i could feel them more and maybe use them for gaming as i never really used them. i have now started using the back buttons more and love it. here is my question. Does the longer protruding buttons touch the back of the case when away and put added pressures on the buttons ? there for clicking the buttons?
i was having overheating issues on my steamdeck with the stock backplate on god of war i was hitting 90c and my deck was throttling and dropping FPS like crazy. I went with the Jsaux Vented backplate and my temps dropped to 70c and never go over.
I live in the desert. (AZ) It's usually no cooler than 80°F in my home. Currently have the old metal plate Jsaux that is effing HOT! I used these links to get the new back and the Honeywell pad. Liked, subscribed, and will look into your patreon.
That magsafe cooler you used they make a version of it with a teg cooler built in and I can't confirm the teg units work amazingly and probably would be a huge benefit in your situation you really ought to give it a try!!! I use the teg set up on gaming phones and it makes a huge difference in thermals but mostly it offsets the heat caused by wireless charging in my case the problem it has in my case is that the cooler doesn't sit directly above the chip and due to my camera bumps its super hard to make it work but when I did force it to work it did a great job its just not practical for my case but in your case it likely would work great!!!
Thank you so much for the kind words, and for watching! I think the Deck is great because we can do so much with it, and it's my favorite device as a result 😁
Hay, nice video :) There are even better Thermal Pads. Yours only has 8.5 w/mk. I got a cheap one with 25 w/mk. There are even better ones with nearly the thermal conductivity as liquid metal. ~65 w/mk. (liquid metal has something around 79 w/mk) Have a nice day :)= (It's made out of carbon) Edit: You can swap out the thermalpad of the backplate too. I got a mail from jsaux, telling me the W/mk of the thermal pad of their backplate pad, but i accidentally deleted it.. I compaired it to my switched pad and im sure mine was betther with 15 W/mk, but sadly i forgot what their thermalpad had :|
Thank you so much for everything you've put out here. From your videos ive installed crybytes, the jsaux backplate, and the honeywell pad. The physical instillation was fine and even sintalled a new 1tb SSD. Just finished the recovery process and have steamOS back up and running but im having trouble figuring out how to do the GTKstress test you mentioned for the pad. Any info is much appreciated. Thanks again!
I buy steam deck for high price like nine month ago is 750-850$ for 512model because my buyer want it and high demand on it ... and now the steam deck price is drop to the bottom in my Country Indonesia and my buyer dont want it anymore now the Buyer Prefer to buy Asus Rog Ally because it's more better Specks than Steam Deck... and now i Lost my Money because of it Every one now Prefer to buy 64gb model steam deck and uprgade the ssd it self to 1tb or 2tb cause is more cheaper rather than buying 512gb model of Steam Deck... it's just i Think Valve didn't give a Fair Price for 64gb and 512gb cause ssd now is more cheaper and i feel very dissapoint about it...
Again, an amazing and incredibly helpful video! Thank you so much! If it's not too basic for your channel, I'd absolutely love to see a video about how to find the perfect settings for any game on Steam Deck to guarantee steady FPS, maximise battery life while still having a decent gaming experience. I do know the basics but I have a hard time finding playing around with all the options the Steam Deck provides. Maybe with an explanation of what which feature does so viewers can easily transfer this to any game they want to play. Keep up your amazing work!
Im sad I had to return my updated internal LCD model because the temps were amazing with the PTM9750 and the stock backplate. I was given an older internals model and even with the PTM9750 pad the temperatures are high and the back gets so hot that it's worrying.
I wonder how well the thermal grizzly carbonaute thermal pad would do! That Honeywell pad only has an 8.9 watt per meter Kelvin thermal conductivity and the thermal grizzly has a 62 watt per meter Kelvin of thermal conductivity!
I was today years old when i found out the Steam Deck can be Overclocked. I wonder how well having the CPU at 4Ghz benefit Baldurs Gate 3 as its very CPU demanding. That extra 200mhz on each core surely has to have some benefit
My new RMA unit only survived for 7 hours. I would say the quality on them is shit too. Loud delta fan, muffled boot chime, trackpads set to 100% even though steamOS shows they're not. I could hear the motor struggling in the trackpad and steam support said it was normal/change it in the settings. I waited 15 days for this new unit but now im fucked since I leave for a trip in 10 days. Launch models were of higher quality, these new units are made out of cheap materials. I even said that valve should let customers know what parts have changed within the unit so people arent pissed off when they get theirs. Delta and Huaying fan for instance, reviewers and Q1/2 got Huaying and in Q3 (if you were lucky like me). After Q4 and the waiting list, people noticed that their decks were louder since valve changed the fan without warning.
I have had problems with the Noctua paste pumping out and leaving dry spots on the chip. Both on a naked die Laptop CPU and a Vega 64 GPU. The temps are good for ½ year or so and then they slowly get worse. The paste works fine on big Ryzen or intel IHS, but not on small naked die chips.
Will the old Jsaux backplate cause any damage to the deck? Or just less optimal Temps? I have the old plate and am considering holding off on the new vented plate until more is known about the open fan effects. Thank you! (Also thank you for Cryoutilities!)
While dropping ~5C is definitely awesome. This just goes to show you how well designed the Steam Deck is from the get go. Valve really has some amazing engineers on this product.
Thickness: 0.25mm sorry im confused because ive seen ppl on reddit use 2.5mm so it the 0.25 you link actually the correct one? Changing my decks shell and fugured id redo the thermal past while im at it so im trying to figure out what to use TT
Installed the vented backplate and wow what a difference, playing Fallout 4 my deck dropped from 68c on the cpu and gpu to 59c on both. I would of gotten the thermal pad but they wanted $10 shipped for a $7 pad so that was a nope.
Hey Kyle, great video. I do have one request though. Can you change the line graph style to use dotted lines for like pairs? Example: Original Stock - Green. Stock, pad and backplate - dotted green. Original stock overclocked - Red Overclock, pad and backplate - dotted red. Would make quickly seeing improvement pairs easier.
Hmmm, I'll see if I can make that happen, I'd have to do a lot of work on my code to make that possible, as the libraries don't support it outright. It _could_ also make it a little fuzzier in some areas. Regardless, I'll try it out and try to implement it if I think it clears things up, thank you so much for the recommendation!
I'm a really picky guy about my temp/db of my devices. I own mine since last friday and I tried a lot of games, really heavy and very light ones. And I can't consider it a problem to reach such temperatures on the deck keeping in mind some gaming laptops like mine with a RTX gpu that reaches almost 90º. I like to see third party projects to build aftermarket parts but in this case I think valve put so much effort into optimizing performance and temperature of this amazing device I could not find a reason to mess this up. As you said it's build like this for a reason, on the long terms messing up the stock airflow could harm the hardware.
great video! I have the old jsaux backplate. I slapped a blue anodized heatsink on it with a thermal pad and nothing gets too hot to touch. I have not overclocked. Sometimes the fans don't even run. That is when accessible parts get the warmest, but not hot enough to trigger the fan. I can even feel warmed air coming from the top vent on pure convection sometimes .
I’m curious as to how the KingPin paste would perform. Very thorough and informative video, thank you! I’ll be keeping the stock backplate but I think I’ll move up to the thermal pad 👍🏼
I’ve got an interesting question , what happens if you just ended up covering the fan hole on the new JSAUX back plate , i’ve just ordered one and I’m gonna put a Killswitch case on it
hello bro sorry to bother you, I do not know how viable it is for you but I think there is a great community that likes quake III Arena, I have searched in many forums but I can not find a definitive solution. You know the subject and my linux guru, could you help me please 🙏
Hi Cryo, my backplate just arrived, but I am a but nervous to install with all the talk about heating issues on other components. How has your performance been since? Are you still using the backplate?
At 20:26 it looks like noctua is beating honeywell on both stock clocks and OC, but your voiceover is stating “another bottleneck lifted”. I’m confused.
I am currently rocking the JSAUX Modcase which i really really like, it is compatible with a different version of the jsaux fan that clips on easier at the back and takes up less space. but the case itself interferes with the Vented backplate, You think it would be a good idea to cut a small hole in the back of the case so Half the vent is exposed and then put the JSaux fan on top of that ? or would it just block its own airflow.
Kyle, you're a legend!
Thank you so much for being subscribed and watching the video! I hope it helps out!
@@cryobyte33Hello cryobyte. I hope you're doing well. I've noticed that update 1.61 brought FSR 2.1 to cyberpunk 2077, so I was wondering if you were going to do a new performance video for the game?
@@TheRealPaul_Morphy I plan to make an update after phantom liberty releases, since they're bumping the requirements 🙂
As a note about the vented backplate:
1. I tested VRMs, ICs, the SSD and the RAM for temperatures with the vented backplate and saw less than 1 degree difference from the stock backplate.
2. A lot of air still gets taken in through the rear vent, even with the vented backplate, so I have very few concerns with device longevity, but wanted to be fully transparent!
Edit:
I used the "sensors" command for SSD and motherboard temperatures, spot checked with the other results I gathered from MangoHUD.
The ICs and VRMs were a bit more difficult. I used a temperature probe wired through the back vent to measure the surface temperatures, and verified its accuracy with a backplate-off IR thermometer test. Obviously the backplate-off results are cooler, but I verified that the probe was accurate that way.
OK that's the answer I was looking for :)
Finally bro, thank you for relieving my stress with the vented back plate. I bought it but started to think about how tf air passively cools the Ics, ram, etc
I love this video, but I wish you went into as much detail about your validation of all critical component temperatures as you did with the rest of the testing methodology. The airflow the way Valve designed it is very much needed to keep things like the charging IC and MEM4 within safe temperatures, as per GN's analysis. While I am definitely open to the idea that the JSAUX backplate could be an improvement all around and would love the performance/aucoustic gains, I would need some more details than (crudely put, I am sorry) "trust me, I did some testing and it all seemed fine to me" in a comment. It seems like you actually did some thermocouple testing, I would have love it if that was included in the video! I'd love to modify my Deck in this way, but as it stands the details as to the thermal safety of doing so just aren't enough for me to risk my Deck.
👍 Thanks!
Your videos are really cool! But what about the power consumption? If the SoC has more headroom in terms of temperature and therefore keeps the clock more stable, it should also consume a little more power, right? Or is that compensated by the lower power consumption of the slower rotating fan?
Kyle. You are the gift that just keeps on giving! There is a lot of scattered content on thermal modding but the video you created has the next level of polish to it. Sincere thank you from the community.
Thank you so much for watching another video! 😁 As always, I'm just happy to help.
I just had an idea. Drilling out vent holes in the back of the old Jsaux case would give you the best of both worlds right?
@@jackinabackpack7599 theoretically similar, but with a lot of the heat sunk into the backplate still 🙂
I'd looked at thermal pads on Steam Deck to see if it was worth it, but never found any benchtest I could trust, but you went above and beyond as always! Seems like the backplate + thermal pad combo is absolutely worth it!
100% but even good paste with back plate is worth it.
That's exactly why I wanted to make this video, thank you for watching it! 😁
Which backplate though? Stock or JSAUX?
@@rohacha9iin40 juasx v2
Would you consider making a follow up video on this when used in the long run? As you stated, there *could* be issues with removed airflow to other components, but it's probably impossible to tell in such a short amount of time. Would be interesting to see how or if it changes with time.
I might be able to later, but I might be doing other mods in the meantime so it'd be hard to isolate changes.
What I can tell you, though, is that:
1. I tested VRMs, ICs, the SSD and the RAM for temperatures with the vented backplate and saw less than 1 degree difference from the stock backplate
2. A lot of air still gets taken in through the rear vent, even with the vented backplate.
Hopefully this alleviates some of your concerns, thank you for watching!
@@cryobyte33 Thank you so much for taking time to respond! I ordered a backplate now, I understand it's at my own risk but I feel at ease now, regardless of how it goes
@@cryobyte33 would this less than 1 degree difference in internal components be enough to cause some kind of damage?
@@jhooGs Nope, not by any stretch of the imagination! You'd likely need a 8C+ difference over a long period, or 15C+ in the shorter term to make a significant difference of any sort.
I can’t believe we’re in a world where we’re able to customize our handheld gaming computers. What a time to be alive.
I never get used to it I've been mind blown from gamepass in my phone for 2 yrs just got my steam deck and it's insane . 🤯. I've learned so much lol .
It would be awesome if you did a Steam Deck OLED thermal mod including re-introducing thermal pads, thermal plate mod (to accommodate the pads contact), and PTM9750 APU instead of thermal paste, and the JSAUX back!
I haven't heard of the thermal plate mod, could you send an email with a link to the address on my about page? Thank you!
@@cryobyte33 the new thermal plate on the OLED unit has an insulating layer, and cut-outs in it for where the thermal pads from the heat pipe touch the metal plate. You’d have to cut the black insulation plastic layer wherever a thermal pad touches. The new OLED model doesn’t have thermal pads on most components now… It’s a cost cutting measure. You’ll see it if you look at the Gamer Nexus teardown to see what I mean.
Thank you for these tests... Unlike a certain RUclipsr that just screamed "higher temp bad" a while back, you did some great work looking into it.
Amazing work!
Because of your video I also bought the Honeywell pad and the JSAux backplate. Its crazy how quiet the deck is now! Thank you so much! (Especially for cryotools!)
No flashy edits, no useless padded infos, just the good stuff. Never change Kyle.
Thank you for watching! I'm just here to present the information, and I don't want to detract from it. Aside from trying to improve retention and make a few jokes, I'll be standing strong 😁
I just got my Vented JSAUX backplate today, and WOW the difference is instantly noticable! Any graphically intensive game would be loud as hell, but now it's super quiet, and GPU and CPU didn't go over 70c the whole time! Well worth the $30, was super easy to install too, highly recommended 👌 Thanks for this super informative video, never would have found this was it not for your awesome content 👍
Thank you so much for watching and for trying out the backplate! It's been a huge change in daily usability and I'm glad that you're getting the same results that I am 😁
Finally the Monoblock! I’m using the old jasaux backplate, new paste, monoblock and Fantastic from Decky. Temps are great with the custom fan curve. The monoblock with the back plate moves a ton of heat but boy does it get hot! Looking forward to the next video!
I can't wait to test it, thank you so much for watching!
Geebus this video was great. We had so my opinions and "I think this or that" in the community and now finally we have this glorious comprehensive test that told us a LOT. Thank you Cryo for another amazing set of tests.
Thank you for the kind words! I also noticed that there wasn't anything really solid out there so I wanted to do my part 🙂
Thanks for confirming that I made the right choice to replace the thermal paste with ptm7950 when I replaced my thumb sticks last month! Now I have a reason to get a backplate. 😁 Oh and I'm excited about the results of that monoblock! Keep up the good work!
Thank you for watching, I can't wait to test it and share the results! 😁
🔥 hope you're settling in well mate, loving the content!
Haven't moved back yet, but thank you!
Watching this made me think I've seen this type of presentation. Then it hit me.
YOU ARE THE GAMERSNEXUS OF STEAMDECK
Thank you so much for the very kind comparison! I love Steve's work and I aspire to be similar in some ways, but then improve in others 😁
Hopefully I'll be able to get a little more than just Steam Deck content sometime too 😉
Tech jesus 2.0!!! 👊
I'd like to see the temps of the charging IC and the SSD with the new Jsaux backplate. That extra cent hole probably hurts those way more than it helps the APU
I actually did test the VRMs, SSD, RAM and ICs (and mention it in the concerns section), they were within 1 degree of stock and gave me no reason to worry whatsoever 🙂 The fan still pulls air through the back vent and the metal plate also contacts the heatsink (which is getting better cooling).
Thanks for watching, I hope this helps!
@@cryobyte33 apricides for video but I must ask - how you measured temps of IC, SSD, VRMs and battery? I heard yours concerns but I have mine as well
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With this hole above fan I treat this backplate like there is no backplate at all because negative airflow is interrupted. I wonder what temps of battery are at your tests while gaming with docked deck.
@@RetroWaveArcades While negative airflow is interrupted, it still pulls a ton of air through the back plate. The fan can pull quite a bit more air than normally gets to it.
As for the temperatures, I used the "sensors" command for SSD and motherboard temperatures, spot checked with the other results I gathered from MangoHUD, and checked.
The ICs and VRMs were a bit more difficult. I used a thermocouple temperature sensor wired through the back vent to measure the surface temperatures, and verified its accuracy with a backplate-off IR thermometer test.
GN does really good work, and I want to make it clear that I'm not trying to argue with Steve's results. All I know is that I did the best I could to to verify that this would be safe for long-term use. 🙂
Any chance you will look into Baldurs Gate 3's performance?
Need that clip on fan. Honestly I had one of those jet airplane ps4s so I’m sure the noise won’t be anything crazy lol.
I recently fitted the 'old' jsaux back plate. I removed the thermal pad prior to installing the shell.. I wasn't after a shell to cool the deck down, more for the looks, since I opted for a transparent purple back plate.
I don't notice any difference in temps... but now I feel that I maybe shouldn't of removed the thermal pad..
The reason I removed it, because I heard that the pad actually blocks the air from passing from the vent at the back to the fan.
Jesus i literally was looking into this myself. Thanks man for always releasing that perfect video at the right time
Thank you so much for watching! I'm glad I could help a bit 😁
His name isn't Jesus.
I need more guidance about putting thermal pads on the steam deck since I can't follow the process due to editing (and because I'm a noob 😅) did you put a thermal pad on the valve chip too? An installation guide would be helpful 🙏
Which size did you buy those thermal pad?
I put the pad only on the heat spreader, which the contacts the APU that you're speaking of. It's really easy, just treat it like thermal paste using iFixIt's guide 🙂
Thank you for watching!
Could you test the game performance difference between a third party launcher like Heroic Launcher vs owning it natively on Steam?
Jsaux new backplate with thermal pad and fan intake vent looks promising especially if you want a quieter Steam Deck, but I'm worried it cools down the APU better but removes airflow to other critical components like SSD, ddr ram memory dies, voltage regulators, battery and other components that might get too hot now and fail earlier!
I mention that concern near the end of the video, but also mention that I watched all those temperatures and that they stayed identical and have given me no reason to worry about them 🙂
Thank you for watching, I'm glad it helped you out!
wondering if covering the circular fan intake with duct tape does anything to performance and temps of the SOC.@@cryobyte33
when you think about it... its much like a normal desktop pc right... the only components that typically get direct contact cooling with fan assistance or water cooling are the gpu and cpu with some motherboards getting a fan on the chipset but its often not required. everything else will have a smaller heat sink that is cooled passively, as long as that original opening is not blocked then even with the fan being open to get its air supply it should still drag air in from the original opening, i just dont see it being an issue, all components should get adequately passively cooled.
I'm curious how loud ur deck runs. I have no issues whatsoever with fan noise
How can i stop throttling power to get 20w ?
I have the OG JSAUX Backplate and I also did a repaste but after watching this video I bought the thermal pad as well as the new jsaux backplate. My temps on my OC Deck have been basically always in the 80s so seeing those temps drop will be greatly appreciated
Agreed, the stock thermal system is great but not quite up to a good OC.
Thank you for watching!
Another amazing vid and now another performance upgrade rabbit hole I find myself in. Looking around online seems like a graphene thermal pad should not be used in the deck, what's your take?
The video is mind blowingly informative and the information conveyed accurate, but for the love of God, please don't show yourself. You are ruining your hard work by doing so.
I'm sorry that you don't like how I look, but with the recent stressed I've put on quite a bit of weight. I'm working to lose it, but please remember that you don't know someone else's situation, and it's unfair to judge them like you do!
I know you just did all this work and seriously thank you, but I'd love to see some of data for TG's new kryosheet also. That is what I'm running on both my ally and deck and from some rough testing it seems to be performing quite a bit better than stock pastes for both and even the kryonaut extreme I had on the deck prior. People like you shouldering the extreme time investment and hard work to not only do all the testing but consolidate and present it to the community really drives everything forward and makes everyone's lives easier. THANK YOU
Thank you so much for watching, and for the recommendation! I can't order any more products while I;m still here in Sweden, but I'll try to order it after I'm back in to US and do another cooling test video 😉
I'm really happy I was able to help a bit, hopefully it won't be too long before I can follow-up!
may i suggest making a vid on "improving the old jsaux backplate"? i believe it would help viewers make a better buying decision
Great video! I do have a gen1 jsaux plate still.. its very hot lol i added a heat sink (2 next to each other) to the back and got cooler cpu and gpu temps but of course still hot as hell to the touch. Have you heard of the thermal pad issue people had where theyve cut out a section for the air channel? If so, would you recommend i do the same if i keep my gen1 jsaux backplate?
2.7db increase is not going to sound 2.7x louder..
I was thinking about getting the PTM7950 and new JSAUX backplate, but was concerned what the actual games were. This video definitely helps make my decision easier. I might just get the backplate and use some thermal paste I already have. Don’t want to setup the PTM7950 if it is all going to come out for a p3r.
FYI I saw Salocin900 posted a video of an updated Steam Deck which has different mounting screw locations for the heat pipe. Might be an issue for the p3r if Valve has significantly changed the design.
whats a p3r? Would like to know what you mean as im thinking of ordering the thermal pads but have some mx6 paste here? Cheers
something i use that you may want to check out is a graphene thermal pad. it goes over the gpu and is pretty thin. beats putting paste way deep in there.
Thanks for the recommendation, too! I've had one before, but I'll need to wait until I'm back in the US to get another. We'll see 😉
another piece of top-notch content as usual! your dedication to thorough and fair testing is admirable, thank you so much for all of your hard work :) this info is very valuable and i'll definitely be considering purchasing at least one of these products in the future!
Thank you for watching, I'm happy to have helped a bit and I hope you at least know all the implications of whichever choice you go with 🙂
that was great man, you put a lot of work into this. instead of filling it with fluff and bullshit like most videos.
Biggest Respect to staying real and honest ❤
Amazing and thorough as always, super glad to see someone scientifically conduct testing of the PTM7950 with respect to burn in and thoughtful application. Cheers!
Please make a baldurs gate 3 video
Man, dont think ive ever done this before but ...subscribed, hit the bell, dropped a like and even commenting. Amazing content. Thank you for the time you dedicated putting this all together.
Thanks for the video! Some dB(A) info for you:
- This measurement is on a logarithmic scale - Every 10 dBA is equivalent to a doubling of sound pressure.
- Example: 2.7dBA is NOT 2.7x louder - that's closer to 30% louder IF measuring the exact same tone.
- Example: an 80 dBA sound is 4X "louder" than a 60dBA one. This is the difference between a normal conversation face to face and a movie theater.
- dBA is a measure of sound pressure - not necessarily perceived volume, and:
- Higher frequencies will generally sound much louder to us than lower ones at the exact same dBA measurement.
I knew about the logarithmic scale and the frequency thing, but not the rest, thank you so much for explaining! I'll screenshot your comment and be sure to follow up with more research where needed, I appreciate it! ❤️
This video is why i subscribed
To be honest, I don't follow this account, I've never seen another of his videos, I don't even have a Steam Deck, and I just accidently came across here. I'm strangely intrigued and thoroughly enjoyed the effort and thought process of this video. Keep up the good work dude!
King Cryo bringing the heat (I mean cool) once again!
They don't call me Cryo for nothing 😉 Thanks for watching, I hope it helps!
Is there a way to max the fan speed?
Yes bro, just use Decky and the plug-in called Fantastic which helps you to max out the fan speed but it's still the usual speeds the fan could go if temperature goes over 80°c
@@willianmoncada1246 thanks
WindeckOs performance comparisons on your radar?
I just heard about it! I'm not a big Windows-on-handheld guy, but I'll see about testing it at some point, for science!
Thank you for your work! Have you tested the temperature in Killswitch or Spigen cases? It feels like the temperature is increasing slightly, but I wanted to have some comparison numbers to make a decision.
In terms of the clip on fan from Jsaux which is only compatible with the stock backplat, I purchased two different versions of this, there is a kickstand built into the foot of the clip on fan which allows you to stand it. Also, there is a version which does not require the clip from Jsaux and is sold seperately as part of the ModCase, but it includes a metal stick on connector that also gives you the latch from the ModCase which lets you add other ModCase components (but not at the same time). I also tried PTM7950 and that was a total bust, in fact in some cases it made my Steam Deck hotter and definately made the standard case back a lot warmer. Maybe it depends on what model of Steam Deck you are testing on and if Valve used different paste in construction.
great video, but since the PTM7950 pad is not easy to obtain in my country. do you happen to have experience with Therminal Grizzly Minus Pad 8?
A friend of mine just sent me a photo of a new revision of steam deck, the CPU cooler mounting mechanism is completely different.
In your and mine steam deck, we have RAM in between the fan and the SOC, the new version don't, and SOC is closer to the fan.
The EMI metal shield is now painted black instead of the bare metal look.
sooooo should i just mod the old backplate i have to have vents to save some money and reap better cooling? im not worried about the heat of the old metal backplate.
I did exactly this. I stupidly bought two of the old back plates before the new one was announced. Instead of buying another I took a dermal and made my own vents/holes where the fan is. Then I bought some small heat sinks and attached them to the back plate to transfer more heat away. Also added some thermal pads inside the deck too. Let's just say it really works. The heatsinks are small enough that I can still play comfortably with almost no weight difference and the heat from the back plate was never a concern of mine. I have my deck overclocked too. A little more than what cryo has his set at and have gotten similar temp numbers.
That's definitely possible, several comments have actually said they've done this! As long as the hole is similarly sized and located, your results should be comparable to the vented plate 🙂
Thanks for watching!
Just a question about the PTM install, I noticed you used a piece wider than the die itself, I read that PTM is electrically conductive, so do you need to protect the area around the die as well? thanks
Are there any updates on your concerns with cooling? I have the backplate myself and have had it about 3 months now. No issues on my end but i am by no means running testing on it.
Nothing thus far, it's still my daily driver with no signs of issues!
@@cryobyte33 Thanks for responding! I was gonna ask the same question to see if your SD spontaneously combusted or something. Based on responses from Reddit, they make it seem like all the other components will die due to increased heat. They love saying how valve did negative pressure for a reason etc.
@@cryobyte33 thank you so much for replying. Your work is greatly appreciated. Huge fan here.
I also have had no issues and the lower temps have been awesome.
Can some one tell me if I took the old backplate and just used a Dremel to add similar vents to the new version backplate if that will make the heat performance be similar? I'm trying to get an all red transparent shell but they don't make the new version in red. I guess having a red and purple color transparent shell won't be a deal breaker either
I've seen other viewers say that performance will be similar if you use the same size/shape of the vent in the same location, so you're likely safe to do so. I'll try it out once I get some tools after moving back to the US.
Thanks for watching!
@@cryobyte33 the fact that you of all people responded to me makes me feel really cool! thank you so much for your input! automatic sub. cant wait for your results!
@@TheeCapN I'm just here to help, thank you for subscribing!
EDIT: CAPS FOR CLARITY. I TESTED IT MYSELF. I FOUND THE CONTROLLER CONFIG TEST IN THE SETTINGS. PLACED THE DECK DOWN, AND IT DOES IN FACT CLICK WITH THE LARGEST BUTTONS WHICH IS REALLY UPSETTING. I AM GOING TO CONTACT JSAUX AND ASK THEM IF THEIR CASE DOES THE SAME. I AM UN SURE IF THE SMALLER BUTTONS TOUCH ON THE DECK I WILL REMOVE THE BACKPLATE AND ADD THEM AND THEN TEST THAT LATER TODAY.
I know this is a long shot, but i figured you would at least maybe respond to my question. I finally got the Jsaux vented backplate. I put in the longer buttons in the back of the plate and staggered them so i could feel them more and maybe use them for gaming as i never really used them. i have now started using the back buttons more and love it. here is my question. Does the longer protruding buttons touch the back of the case when away and put added pressures on the buttons ? there for clicking the buttons?
i was having overheating issues on my steamdeck with the stock backplate on god of war i was hitting 90c and my deck was throttling and dropping FPS like crazy. I went with the Jsaux Vented backplate and my temps dropped to 70c and never go over.
I live in the desert. (AZ) It's usually no cooler than 80°F in my home. Currently have the old metal plate Jsaux that is effing HOT! I used these links to get the new back and the Honeywell pad. Liked, subscribed, and will look into your patreon.
That magsafe cooler you used they make a version of it with a teg cooler built in and I can't confirm the teg units work amazingly and probably would be a huge benefit in your situation you really ought to give it a try!!! I use the teg set up on gaming phones and it makes a huge difference in thermals but mostly it offsets the heat caused by wireless charging in my case the problem it has in my case is that the cooler doesn't sit directly above the chip and due to my camera bumps its super hard to make it work but when I did force it to work it did a great job its just not practical for my case but in your case it likely would work great!!!
LEGENDARY. AMAZING WORK KYLE. steam deck optimization is a very hot topic. No pun intended
Thank you so much for the kind words, and for watching! I think the Deck is great because we can do so much with it, and it's my favorite device as a result 😁
That's insane. You are already creating material at the Gamer Nexus level.
I hope all the best with the channel and the new life in the US.
Thank you so much for watching, and for the kind words! I hope to continue getting better and expanding the channel 😁
Hopefully you will do a guide on the upcoming full release of Baldur's Gate 3 so I can increase performance or battery life as much as possible.
Been thinking of OC. I think it’s time ✌🏽
Thank you for watching, I hope you get good results!
Hay, nice video :) There are even better Thermal Pads. Yours only has 8.5 w/mk. I got a cheap one with 25 w/mk. There are even better ones with nearly the thermal conductivity as liquid metal. ~65 w/mk. (liquid metal has something around 79 w/mk) Have a nice day :)= (It's made out of carbon)
Edit: You can swap out the thermalpad of the backplate too. I got a mail from jsaux, telling me the W/mk of the thermal pad of their backplate pad, but i accidentally deleted it.. I compaired it to my switched pad and im sure mine was betther with 15 W/mk, but sadly i forgot what their thermalpad had :|
Thank you so much for everything you've put out here. From your videos ive installed crybytes, the jsaux backplate, and the honeywell pad. The physical instillation was fine and even sintalled a new 1tb SSD. Just finished the recovery process and have steamOS back up and running but im having trouble figuring out how to do the GTKstress test you mentioned for the pad. Any info is much appreciated. Thanks again!
what size did you cut the thermal pad to? I'm wondering if a 3cm x 2cm will be enough so I don't have to order a bigger one for no reason
I buy steam deck for high price like nine month ago is 750-850$ for 512model because my buyer want it and high demand on it ... and now the steam deck price is drop to the bottom in my Country Indonesia and my buyer dont want it anymore now the Buyer Prefer to buy Asus Rog Ally because it's more better Specks than Steam Deck... and now i Lost my Money because of it Every one now Prefer to buy 64gb model steam deck and uprgade the ssd it self to 1tb or 2tb cause is more cheaper rather than buying 512gb model of Steam Deck... it's just i Think Valve didn't give a Fair Price for 64gb and 512gb cause ssd now is more cheaper and i feel very dissapoint about it...
Again, an amazing and incredibly helpful video! Thank you so much!
If it's not too basic for your channel, I'd absolutely love to see a video about how to find the perfect settings for any game on Steam Deck to guarantee steady FPS, maximise battery life while still having a decent gaming experience. I do know the basics but I have a hard time finding playing around with all the options the Steam Deck provides. Maybe with an explanation of what which feature does so viewers can easily transfer this to any game they want to play.
Keep up your amazing work!
Im sad I had to return my updated internal LCD model because the temps were amazing with the PTM9750 and the stock backplate.
I was given an older internals model and even with the PTM9750 pad the temperatures are high and the back gets so hot that it's worrying.
I wonder how well the thermal grizzly carbonaute thermal pad would do! That Honeywell pad only has an 8.9 watt per meter Kelvin thermal conductivity and the thermal grizzly has a 62 watt per meter Kelvin of thermal conductivity!
Need Jsaux to make a backplate for the OLED. Hopefully soon, as the one featured here (and the RGB one) are all listed as incompatible with OLED
Didn't know you could replace the fans and thermal paste. Good to know. :) Saving video for future reference. Ty. :)
I was today years old when i found out the Steam Deck can be Overclocked.
I wonder how well having the CPU at 4Ghz benefit Baldurs Gate 3 as its very CPU demanding. That extra 200mhz on each core surely has to have some benefit
My new RMA unit only survived for 7 hours. I would say the quality on them is shit too. Loud delta fan, muffled boot chime, trackpads set to 100% even though steamOS shows they're not. I could hear the motor struggling in the trackpad and steam support said it was normal/change it in the settings. I waited 15 days for this new unit but now im fucked since I leave for a trip in 10 days. Launch models were of higher quality, these new units are made out of cheap materials. I even said that valve should let customers know what parts have changed within the unit so people arent pissed off when they get theirs. Delta and Huaying fan for instance, reviewers and Q1/2 got Huaying and in Q3 (if you were lucky like me). After Q4 and the waiting list, people noticed that their decks were louder since valve changed the fan without warning.
great job ! Honeywell PTH7950 Thermal Pad - size needed to cover CPU 13mmX13mm
I have had problems with the Noctua paste pumping out and leaving dry spots on the chip.
Both on a naked die Laptop CPU and a Vega 64 GPU.
The temps are good for ½ year or so and then they slowly get worse.
The paste works fine on big Ryzen or intel IHS, but not on small naked die chips.
Will the old Jsaux backplate cause any damage to the deck? Or just less optimal Temps? I have the old plate and am considering holding off on the new vented plate until more is known about the open fan effects.
Thank you! (Also thank you for Cryoutilities!)
Thank you, awesome review.
What are your thoughts on the Arctic TP-3 thermalpads? Is it better than PTM7950?
While dropping ~5C is definitely awesome. This just goes to show you how well designed the Steam Deck is from the get go. Valve really has some amazing engineers on this product.
Hello.Jsaux backplate complatible with new revision of steam deck?(rev c summer 2023).it have black shield.
Thickness: 0.25mm sorry im confused because ive seen ppl on reddit use 2.5mm so it the 0.25 you link actually the correct one? Changing my decks shell and fugured id redo the thermal past while im at it so im trying to figure out what to use TT
Installed the vented backplate and wow what a difference, playing Fallout 4 my deck dropped from 68c on the cpu and gpu to 59c on both. I would of gotten the thermal pad but they wanted $10 shipped for a $7 pad so that was a nope.
Hey Kyle, great video. I do have one request though. Can you change the line graph style to use dotted lines for like pairs? Example:
Original Stock - Green.
Stock, pad and backplate - dotted green.
Original stock overclocked - Red
Overclock, pad and backplate - dotted red.
Would make quickly seeing improvement pairs easier.
Hmmm, I'll see if I can make that happen, I'd have to do a lot of work on my code to make that possible, as the libraries don't support it outright. It _could_ also make it a little fuzzier in some areas.
Regardless, I'll try it out and try to implement it if I think it clears things up, thank you so much for the recommendation!
I'm a really picky guy about my temp/db of my devices. I own mine since last friday and I tried a lot of games, really heavy and very light ones. And I can't consider it a problem to reach such temperatures on the deck keeping in mind some gaming laptops like mine with a RTX gpu that reaches almost 90º.
I like to see third party projects to build aftermarket parts but in this case I think valve put so much effort into optimizing performance and temperature of this amazing device I could not find a reason to mess this up. As you said it's build like this for a reason, on the long terms messing up the stock airflow could harm the hardware.
Thank you! Just: thank you!
Greetings from Germany
great video!
I have the old jsaux backplate. I slapped a blue anodized heatsink on it with a thermal pad and nothing gets too hot to touch. I have not overclocked. Sometimes the fans don't even run. That is when accessible parts get the warmest, but not hot enough to trigger the fan. I can even feel warmed air coming from the top vent on pure convection sometimes .
I’m curious as to how the KingPin paste would perform. Very thorough and informative video, thank you! I’ll be keeping the stock backplate but I think I’ll move up to the thermal pad 👍🏼
is it dumb to ask if you guys play without any protective case, new jsaux back plate would be nullified I bet?
Amazing content though!
I’ve got an interesting question , what happens if you just ended up covering the fan hole on the new JSAUX back plate , i’ve just ordered one and I’m gonna put a Killswitch case on it
The most comprehensive cooling video to date. Thank you for sharing all of this information!
Thank you so much for watching, I hope you liked it!
hello bro sorry to bother you, I do not know how viable it is for you but I think there is a great community that likes quake III Arena, I have searched in many forums but I can not find a definitive solution. You know the subject and my linux guru, could you help me please 🙏
Hi Cryo, my backplate just arrived, but I am a but nervous to install with all the talk about heating issues on other components. How has your performance been since? Are you still using the backplate?
At 20:26 it looks like noctua is beating honeywell on both stock clocks and OC, but your voiceover is stating “another bottleneck lifted”. I’m confused.
Does anybody know where to get the Honeywell thermal pad from an EU based vendor?
the only reason i'd do this is noise since it's already cool enough, but tbh i also have zero noise complaints with my oled!
Meanwhile, I'm probably making temperatures somewhat worse with my dbrand case :P
I wonder how long it'll be until the crazy madman who made the Xbox 360 laptop makes one with the steam deck with massive batteries and a VRR screen
Hello! Great video, just a quick question, the 30mmx30mm pad is enough?
Your reviews and test are wonderful.
If you used the deck with capped framerate. Is the new jsaux and ptm the best option? Thanks a lot!!!
I am currently rocking the JSAUX Modcase which i really really like, it is compatible with a different version of the jsaux fan that clips on easier at the back and takes up less space. but the case itself interferes with the Vented backplate, You think it would be a good idea to cut a small hole in the back of the case so Half the vent is exposed and then put the JSaux fan on top of that ? or would it just block its own airflow.
Im missing a conclusion. You're through heaps of numbers around and at the and I'm completely lost. What is worth it? What doesn't matter?