Gen. Eric Shinseki from 02.25.03
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- Опубликовано: 6 дек 2008
- On February 25, 2003, four months before the end of his term as Chief of Staff of the Army, Shinseki told the Senate Armed Services Committee that he thought an occupying force of several hundred thousand men would be needed to stabilize postwar Iraq. He was pressed to provide a range by Senator Carl Levin (D-MI). Below is an excerpt from the exchange:
SEN. LEVIN: General Shinseki, could you give us some idea as to the magnitude of the Army's force requirement for an occupation of Iraq following a successful completion of the war?
GEN. SHINSEKI: In specific numbers, I would have to rely on combatant commanders' exact requirements. But I think --
SEN. LEVIN: How about a range?
GEN. SHINSEKI: I would say that what's been mobilized to this point -- something on the order of several hundred thousand soldiers are probably, you know, a figure that would be required. We're talking about posthostilities control over a piece of geography that's fairly significant, with the kinds of ethnic tensions that could lead to other problems. And so it takes a significant ground-force presence.
A great general and American!
No, he was right before the war and he is right now. Gen Shinseki was correct. We are streched thin. Afghanistan is worse from what I've heard although I've never been deployed there yet, I believe it as it's a much larger country with rough terrain.
Just thinking off the top of his head about holding the country together after the war, Shinseki had it right. Rumsfeld blew it, and Bush and Cheney went along.
A good man - one of many who have been career professionals who performed their jobs with expertise and high integrity -- thus making them unsuitable for being listened to by the Bush Admin of narcissistic war profiteers. Those who were right were mocked and kicked to the curb. Those who knew better but played the game for Bush (like Powell) deserve our contempt - not rehabilitation. And those who committed crimes against US & our Constitution should be charged and face trials.
The Bush administration weren't war profiteers, you're a deranged lefty with no evidence to support those claims. We know Cheney's stocks were in trust since before he was sworn in, in Jan 01.............however, Shinseki had it right, and they should have listened.
He seemed nervous during this clip. Almost as if there was political pressure on him.
@daddymak9 no I'm just under the assumption that it was impossible for Condoleeza Rice to dodge the draft since never in America's history have women been required to register for the draft. Therefore, Rice was not a draft dodger.
@daddymak9 I agree with you but Condoleeza Rice didn't dodge the draft.... shes a woman
you're right - there was never that level of troops in Iraq. if you remember, more than 4,000 US troops have died, and tens or hundreds of thousands of civilians have been killed, and i think at least 1 million displaced. Obviously, you can send in any number you want. The point is, we DIDN'T send in the number he estimated, and things fell apart.
wqvsaa, Rumsfeld predicted that the U.S. would only have about 5,000 troops left in Iraq by now, which obviously is not the case. Shinseki was slightly off, not by much at all, certainly far closer in his predictions that Rumsfeld was.
Oh, and 2479855 is exactly right, there are more than 190,000 private contractors in Iraq. 160,000 troops + 190,000 contractors= 350,000 military personnel, which is, in fact, "several hundred thousand"
Exactly. When you include all those Blackwater Security and other undisclosed private ops, we are actually getting close to the number Shinseki is talking about. wqvsaa needs to stop living in his neocon dreamworld.
not true, he announced his retirement a year bewfore this happend