Had a great time out! These rounds were just amazing to shoot and see the destruction in person. Jay is an absolute genius and madman. The gel block shot was my favorite to do. These rounds did exactly what Jay designed them to do. Great job Jay! Thank you again Jeff! I can’t wait for our next trip out. The ballistic dummy was pretty dang awesome as well. 😅 thank you for the honors.
@@taofledermaushey I have a interesting idea do you know Scott from Kentucky Ballistics? I definitely think the two of you collabing would be a extremely interesting thing to consider Do you reckon that someone can make a set of hyper powerful rounds for Scott's .950 calibre rifle?
@@taofledermaus so... Tube mag bad. Any plans to emulate the round without the rods to test it in straight and banana mags? Or is this a side by side barrel ammo only? For science!
The way those flechettes open up on impact is practically designed to rip through kevlar, since kevlar weave is designed to absorb impact by crumpling inward and catching it like a glove, the rods spread out and press it out in a flower like pattern which allows the main projectile to rip through dead on without any deviation or kinetic loss.
Also the main penetrator is anchored in the the bottom with a screw on impact this is very important as when the nose cone pushes back and causes the roll pins to flower out the opening roll pins would apply a leverage force on the rear where the main penetrator is attached using its own force to accelerate the main penetrator. Think almost like a secondary Sabot that opens up on impact
The flechettes detaching at about 3" past impact in a 45 degree angle to impact, and not slowed by the gel at all is a nightmare. Incredible round and cheers to Jay!!
I thought the mannequin was a crap target to waste a shot on until you turned it around. It turned out to be perfect at showing the rods separating. Nice.
The canned beans was a crap target. Tinned goods don't have an expiration date, regardless of what they print. The heat treatment process and seal sterilizes the food preventing decay via bacterial growth. Can such as a 40 year old can of corn, pickle relish found aboard the sunken U.S.S Monitor (sunk 1862), and several canned products from the steamboat, Bertrand (sunk 1865) have been found to be fit for eating. Americans love wasting good food in senseless "experiments" on RUclips. It's disgraceful.
@@Sajuukit’s a part of a great presentation that’s both entertaining and informative. And that can, along with everything else in the video, are expenses that end up generating income through the video itself and donators. That $10 can stimulated the economy by getting shot much more than if it would have if it had just been eaten for dinner. It’s not a waste.
And the core! It keeps going through relatively soft things! I now wonder if tungsten carbide would penetrate that mild steel, the round would become virtually unstoppable in 99% of applications
@@TRiToN219it'd definitely penetrate, but with downside of costing 2-3x the amount of mild steel, tungsten carbide is not cheap to machine like that since it's usually the stuff doing the cutting
He doesn’t just have a gift for machining. Amazing understanding of subsonic and supersonic physics and ability to use his imagination to build these is epic too.
The original concept for Rods from God was conceived by Jerry Pournelle while at Boeing and it spawned Project Thor. Jerry later moved into being a science fiction writer. The first practical weapon was a the Korean war era Lazy Dog bomb which was just flung projectiles at a target using purely kinetic energy from the fall. This had expanded upon a concept of throwing "smart rocks" at targets from World War II. Jerry did the math and found that placing explosive warheads in space was a risk to transport them, maintain them, required complex designs, etc. and saved very little from a launched mass perspective. But if you just dropped an object from orbit the kinetic forces alone could exceed conventional explosives and rival nuclear payloads. Project Thor basically then identified that the most effective and foolproof method would be a bar of solid tungsten with a low cross sectional area. Thus a long cylinder, rod, provided the most stable form factor. To achieve par with nuclear payloads the bar would need to be about the size of your average telephone pole. Dropped from orbit a large proportion of its energy would be imparted into the earth causing near complete destruction and causing most of the material at the site to exceed molecular cohesion forces (i.e. vaporize/explode).
As a mechanic I have literally installed or removed thousands of roll pins, not in my wildest dreams have I ever though of using them as a shotgun round. This has got to be one of the best and at the same time most terrifying episode I have watched on this channel. That slug is insane. I love it...❤🥰😍
Same here, but as soon as i saw it i was like "that's genius". They are hard, hollow, and can easily be press fit without needing ultra precision holes.
@@ZacLowing fitting roll pins tight is no problem it's what they are made to do, how many? Depends on the diameter, at the size seen here maybe 4 could replace the center rod.
@@crforfreedom7407 If I had the tools, machine the core and base from a single piece of tungsten, probably make the base just a little thinner than the aluminum one. Maybe fill the roll pins with powdered magnesium to cause added heartburn to the target.
Y'all did Shane dirty. Crapping on him about being a little high and right, then turn around and blame Zach's shot on the slugs. Y'all owe Shane a beer man.
The last shot on the gel was indeed terrifying. The mess inside that it caused would be devastating to anything with internal organs. That guy who made them is a Fing genius.
@@FrytheFowl it looks like the slug and the pins would tear the muscles to pieces, literally. It would be a horrible wound, no way to survive that, even if it just bled to death, it would be a quick death.
What a great name for a company, one problem though is there aren’t any intentional spelling errors to confuse the immigrants and those learning English.
The RODS from GOD go straight to the top of my 12GA destruction list. The rods were almost unstopable, unlike most shell fragments and shot. Thank you, Jay, and Jeff for designing the load.
(machinist here) This is a really cool concept and it's neat to see it work as intended. Some info I'm pulling out my butt: on a manual lathe, you could probably make all these components combined in about 20 minutes as long as you buy the right size stock to machine and have your tools prepped ahead of time, and then after getting your mill coordinates dialed in for the bolt circle maybe another 10 minutes to drill all the holes (give or take a couple depending on if there are pockets in the base section, but it doesn't look like there are). The first one will take the longest to make and the rest will be done in half the time because that's just how manufacturing goes, it's all in the prep. I'd estimate material cost to be around $10 per assembly on the high end, maybe $5 on the low end, manufacturing 2 per hour on manual equipment in a small home garage setup. If it were done with a single CNC lathe and single CNC mill, I'd guess you could make around 10 an hour after fully proofing the programs. And that few per hour only because you would have to swap programs and material between the aluminum parts and the steel parts. That's some damn fine bang for your buck there Jay, good use of roll pins.
I think you might get down to as low as 1$ and at worst 2$ per round if one just did proper tolerances on the design and batch manufactured the components. Definitely not cheap to sell still, but as a hobby round for fun or extremely dangerous game round it could work.
Geneva convention is being updated as we speak. Great round. Thanks for a great show. This is easily in the top 3 for me personally. May God bless you and yours.
@@smokingcrab2290 it's neither. It's just freakin awesome. Just like a trash bag full of oxygen/ acetylene. Be careful with that though. Static will ruin your day in a hurry.
Very rarely is there a slug that makes me go “Man, I’d love to buy that.”, but this is one of them. Thanks to you and Shane for going the extra mile with the gel shot!
The way the rods spread on impact on that last gel shot was so clean it felt like it was straight out of a video game. Props to Jay he knows his craft.
@@TheShootShack not just that, your after shot analysis hit all the significant points (like the bonus ejected plug of gel!) while skipping the jibber-jabber, and was well spoken and clear. Bro, come back and shoot again. Really.
@@ebenwight513 thank you 🙏 i really appreciate the kind words. I will definitely be back out again in the very near future. I was a bit nervous of course. Between that and the sun cooking our brains I fumbled my words on the bucket of sand. I’ll get better on camera. So thank you again I appreciate the kind words brother.
The second gel shot saved you from the comment my dad said to me years ago " We're not mad at you son , just very disappointed ." Those slugs have it all .... initial devastating wound channel and serious penetration .
The fact that it expanded in that foam dummy was equally as impressive to me! The gel showed the crazy penetrating power of all parts of the round, the foam dummys "ripped a new a hole" was hilarious and showed that these function in a variety of targets. Very cool!
This slug is beyond genius. It's peak engineering and supremely destructive. I'm sure there are some serious battlefield potential and defense capabilities that would be perfect for this slug. I want to buy them.
Using type of ammunition would violate the rules of war. “The Hague Convention of 1899, Declaration III, prohibited the use in international warfare of bullets that easily expand or flatten in the body.”
What a brilliantly executed design. I see no reason you couldn't upgrade to a tungsten centre post, which would sort out the steel plate too. Great job. 👍
Honestly that's a magnificent round. The single projectile accuracy of a slug, the multiple wound channels of buckshot, the base and spreader separate into their own wound channels, and the rods don't have the problem of other fragmenting projectiles where the core has great penetration but the fragments only penetrate a few inches once separated. Very cool, much love to Jay.
I think this is the first video I’ve been in that has broke 1 million views. Thank you Jeff for letting me be a guest shooter on your channel, and thank you everyone for making @TAUFLEDERMAUS be able to let me go out and goof around for a few hours. Also O.G is not my dad and I’m not his clone. That I know of.
Wow! You put a Tungsten core in that, replace the Rods with ball bearings all stacked in rows and that spreader mechanism at the top is going to send those bearings out near sideways while the Tungsten core goes through darn near everything. Crazy levels of destruction! Well designed Jay!
While you’re at it? Make a Mauler kind. Where the rods have a designed hook at the ends of them, that latches back onto the base Core when it starts to spiral in & spread? With added Ball Bearings. And then see what happens 😝
Been buying Clear Ballistics for years after getting tired of DIY gelatin making. Excellent product if you can afford it. Nice that they donated some product to you
@@taofledermaus Shorten it up a bit so it will tube, make the core tungsten for superior penetration, and it is the PERFECT SLUG: AP and HP combined. Brilliant.
Space 1999 theme + Bush Beans Dog + misc. "rod" humor and a flying bearded Ken finale'... are you not entertained, TFM faithful? I sure the hell am! - Ed on the Ridge
You basically just described the animated adult show _Archer,_ and more specifically, the season titled _1999_ lol (which was an amazing season!) _edit: Which I _*_suspect_*_ Jeff watches Archer, based on his "Do you want ants? Because that's how you get ants" comment in a previous video... (he might've only said the second half of that, I don't recall specifically)_
Everybody who owns the shotgun should have about 5000 of these in their basement... As long as it's in a proper storage container to keep them nice and fresh
I'm glad that target companies are starting to recognize your channel and giving you targets. I enjoy your channel a lot for the fact that you explain loading to all aspect of powder, gaskets, sabots, ect.
As someone who is just getting into guns and is working on getting their license, I absolutely love your channel. It's always amazing to see all the hand-made rounds you guys test and naturally, the insane craftsmanship that goes into making these. Love from Malta, guys.
@@lessforloans Yeah. There is no carry (concealed or otherwise) license, but you can get a hunter's license, a collector's license (that one is for more vintage guns) and a regular shooter's license in two flavors (but they are effectively the same). There's some limitations to how many weapons you are allowed to have, with the exception of shotguns. Due to a very strong presence of the hunting association on our island, I imagine.
@@lessforloans There are some local birds and a metric ass-load of native rabbits. We have some really protected species (like the Maltese Falcon) that can't be hunted, but otherwise there's enough local fauna and people with a head on their shoulders who don't seem to over-hunt.
RUclips is funny, I just got a notification for this video???? Oh my could this be the greatest slug of all time? Man u know how to make a slug work Jeff. 13/10 in honor of 13 pieces of this slug. Thank u clear ballistics jel thanks Shane, thanks Jeff.
This is awesome! I used to do this with my 20 gauge when I was a kid. I'm talking about 8 and 9 years old, I learned how to put the wax in the shot to keep it in a tighter pattern, and I started experimenting with other things which wasn't very wise, because one time it blew the end of my Barrel up and I had to shorten the barrel about 6 in, it was still way over 18" but it kicked a hell of a lot harder and I learned a good lesson!
I like this channel because it is a real ballistic channel not only a crazy guy who shott 15 rounds of 50 BMG on a sledgehammer. Greetings from Vienna. sorry for my bad englisch
@@aleprechaun8972 the main issue would be the number of parts mixed with the machining, the number of man hours into machining each slug would make these an unfeasible production round
So glad clear ballistics reached out to y'all!! This round is, imo, the most terrifying round I've watched y'all shoot. Insane! I want some but I know even if they were mass manufactured, I'd never be able to afford many of them.. talk about top tier hunting ammo. Looks like it would stop anything if loaded with enough powder, or maybe a different powder altogether. Either way, definitely a hunters best friend, look at the spread angle..😮😮
This is definitely a top 5 of the most brutal slugs I've seen on this channel or anywhere. Great slug design and you guys made a great video to display what these babies can do!
R.I.P. was supposed to rip people off, and that's what G2 did. I've never seen such brazen and aggressive shilling of a product in my life, and I really do mean shilling, they were NOT subtle about it.
Wow, Clear Ballistics helping out big time! They’ve been supplying stuff to other GunTubers for some time, glad someone pointed you out to them. I hope they feel they got sufficient exposure here to keep it up. I agree you should have started off with something a little less horrendously destructive but here we are. It was worth one-shooting the bust. Jeff, thanks for posting the short first as a teaser. Posting a short after the main video never made sense to me. I mean, we’ve already seen the show. Thanks to the guest shooters in particular. There’s just no way you could do this as a one man effort what with multiple cameras, horsing targets around and all the cleanup never mind the hours of editing for a few minutes of video. You’ve made some great friends getting guests in, particularly accidental guests like Breanna. Tell those guys how much we appreciate them especially going the extra day. That ballistic gel shot was a thing of (terrible) beauty. Thanks to all the crazy people making rounds like this one. I hope we see more from this maker soon. Once again I want to thank the Patrons and channel members who let us poors freeload on their generosity. We know you couldn’t keep doing this without them. Sincerely, thank you all.
This looks like a updated version trench gun rounds used in the Vietnam War. They were 12-gauge flechette loads. They were plastic-cased 3” shells manufactured by the Western Cartridge Company and had 20 carbide flechettes 0.73 “ long and weighing about 0.47 g. Federal Cartridge Company also made a version with 25 flechettes packed in a plastic cup with granulated polyethylene to maintain alignment with the bore, this prevented damage to the bore. Since flechettes are lite weight they only had an effective range of about 60 yd max; but they were perfect in the foliage of the jungle. 00 buck flies further and in heavier but the flechettes covered a wider area and despite their lite weight they flew straight since they were shaped like darts. They penetrated helmets and the “body armor” of the day. The wounds were small but incredibly damaging since they hit in large numbers and most stayed in the enemy. The roll pins in this modern version would also be light but due to the shape they would never fly straight for long through foliage. The center “slug” would be the most damaging and furthest flying, but because the shape could detonate shells in the mag tube it could only be used in stacked mags or loaded one at a time. The original flechettes were a better design but they may not be available anymore.
@@battleoid2411 Do you not see how they fly in every direction.. It might as well be a grenade. You can't be oblivious to the back drop. I'm talking about a crowd because it's relevant: if you were to shoot a bad guy and there was a crowd behind him, there would be a lot of casualties.
@@drewbondy9414 Yes thank you.. I'm talking about what it does after penetrating. It's very unpredictable and would very likely be banned soon if it was commercialized.
That round would be a copper-plated beyoch to mass-manufacture. You're looking at machined components, not stamped. You're looking at eight small tungsten rods, which are always a PITA to source. This is a round of artisanal craft, and absolutely terrifying, but an even bigger nightmare to try and ramp production on. If you make the core and base-plate out of Aluminum, you could die-cast it, but the spreader plate has to be steel or the rods just punch through it. And even if you handle all that, you'd have an assembly step before it can go to loading. And you'll need to cut some length off of it as well, to fit in a proper 3" shell without bumping the fellow in front. There's no way you could make them profitable. They'd cost maybe ten times the average slug's price, probably more. There's just too many parts, too much assembly involved. It's much cheaper and thus more profitable to just shove buttplugs into shells and call it a day.
@@ShneekeyTheLost There's a way to die cast the entire thing.. Even the rods, in place. Just make it so they are barely connected and could still break off in high impact. It probably wouldn't flare out as reliably.. but I bet it would still work a lot of the time. It would need a little redesign and wouldn't really be the same thing.. but the same idea.
@@calholli The rods are of a different material than the rest, so unless you want to make the rods Aluminum instead of Tungsten, that's not going to be possible. Also, assuming you just make the whole thing out of Aluminum, the awkward design is going to generate a relatively high number of failed castings, and it still wouldn't perform as well both due to the lack of mass and due to the rods probably going through the aluminum spreader plate instead of properly spreading. So you're looking at a slug still 2-3x the cost of a usual one, and without the same performance metrics displayed. It's too complex, as it stands, for mass manufacture. You'd have to get rid of the rods separating to simplify it, in which case just go with a standard butt-plug design which are easy to cast.
@@ShneekeyTheLost I'd like to see it attempted and tested before I made any assumptions. It might perform better than you think.. and there are some talented cast form makers out there.. It might be easy to make.. I'm not real sure. It would be a fun project for someone to attempt. It's not that much different than how a hollow point has break away pedals and is allowed to flare outward. My point was: if it was ever going to be commercially viable -- this is how they would get there. No one is ever going to sell that much tungsten in one slug.. That would be a ridiculous price. lol.. Maybe you could just cast it with holes and then push some steel roll pins through the holes? And on impact they could still escape and fly forward.. IDK.. there are ways to make it cheaper... Maybe make the customer have to buy the roll pins and assemble each one themselves, to save cost? You could get it down to a reasonable price that way.
seeing that round appear to flatten out and pancake on that lead plate only to find out in bire a whole clean thru the lead plate was amazing this brings shotguns so mouch more versatility and something new and fresh to that type of platform its kind of exciting to see how putting some serious thought into the projectiles instead of what fires them shouldve been done a long time ago cuz this brings up so many ideas that I would love to see people explore and how much it could change things as far as the direction of technolgical application being thouight of for new ways to fire projectiles out of a barrel very high speeds
Had a great time out! These rounds were just amazing to shoot and see the destruction in person. Jay is an absolute genius and madman. The gel block shot was my favorite to do. These rounds did exactly what Jay designed them to do. Great job Jay!
Thank you again Jeff!
I can’t wait for our next trip out.
The ballistic dummy was pretty dang awesome as well. 😅 thank you for the honors.
thanks again Shane!!
Thanks for going out again and getting the second the second gel block shot for us.
@@taofledermausdo you have a discount code for Clear Ballistics? If not ask them if we can get one.
Great video. What a devasting round !
@@taofledermaushey I have a interesting idea do you know
Scott from Kentucky Ballistics?
I definitely think the two of you collabing would be a extremely interesting thing to consider
Do you reckon that someone can make a set of hyper powerful rounds for Scott's
.950 calibre rifle?
It took a lot of work making this and I’m extremely happy with the results and outcome thank you guys
thanks
dude those are crazy as hell props man
Hey from Ruch! That’s a mean round Jay.
I need price per round 😂
Edit-and where to send my money!
@@taofledermaus so... Tube mag bad.
Any plans to emulate the round without the rods to test it in straight and banana mags? Or is this a side by side barrel ammo only?
For science!
The second gel shot alone was worth the price of admission!
16:25?
@@Johnny-rj9on That's the one.
Yeah
Incredible
Pure gel porn.
The way those flechettes open up on impact is practically designed to rip through kevlar, since kevlar weave is designed to absorb impact by crumpling inward and catching it like a glove, the rods spread out and press it out in a flower like pattern which allows the main projectile to rip through dead on without any deviation or kinetic loss.
Also the main penetrator is anchored in the the bottom with a screw on impact this is very important as when the nose cone pushes back and causes the roll pins to flower out the opening roll pins would apply a leverage force on the rear where the main penetrator is attached using its own force to accelerate the main penetrator.
Think almost like a secondary Sabot that opens up on impact
Shaddup dork
@@SgtPriad lul wonder how NY or CA would try to regulate this thing
@@drek9k2 they'd just call them "cop killer rounds" and ban em
Good bye hollow points, hello rods from god
The flechettes detaching at about 3" past impact in a 45 degree angle to impact, and not slowed by the gel at all is a nightmare. Incredible round and cheers to Jay!!
It was quite impressive!
I thought the mannequin was a crap target to waste a shot on until you turned it around. It turned out to be perfect at showing the rods separating. Nice.
Right. I would think it to soft to get them to separate. Bear and hog round for sure ✓
The dummy had what we call a "Taco Bell" exit wound.
Id rather have this than eat taco bell@danielbretall2236
The canned beans was a crap target. Tinned goods don't have an expiration date, regardless of what they print. The heat treatment process and seal sterilizes the food preventing decay via bacterial growth.
Can such as a 40 year old can of corn, pickle relish found aboard the sunken U.S.S Monitor (sunk 1862), and several canned products from the steamboat, Bertrand (sunk 1865) have been found to be fit for eating.
Americans love wasting good food in senseless "experiments" on RUclips.
It's disgraceful.
@@Sajuukit’s a part of a great presentation that’s both entertaining and informative. And that can, along with everything else in the video, are expenses that end up generating income through the video itself and donators. That $10 can stimulated the economy by getting shot much more than if it would have if it had just been eaten for dinner. It’s not a waste.
A lot of thought went into this slug to minimise failure and to maximise damage. That collar to split the rods was genius.
And the core! It keeps going through relatively soft things!
I now wonder if tungsten carbide would penetrate that mild steel, the round would become virtually unstoppable in 99% of applications
@@TRiToN219it'd definitely penetrate, but with downside of costing 2-3x the amount of mild steel, tungsten carbide is not cheap to machine like that since it's usually the stuff doing the cutting
@@TRiToN219 Would be worth a shot, but tungsten carbide is brittle so the force at ignition could also shatter it ruining the penetrative quality.
@@grapicusdrinktus Depleted uranium it is, then!!
Carbide drillbits are plentiful and no one bats an eye
He doesn’t just have a gift for machining. Amazing understanding of subsonic and supersonic physics and ability to use his imagination to build these is epic too.
Hopefully he goes for a "ginsu/rx9" style next. Would love to see that
Basic understanding of inertia. It’s not complicated.
The original concept for Rods from God was conceived by Jerry Pournelle while at Boeing and it spawned Project Thor. Jerry later moved into being a science fiction writer.
The first practical weapon was a the Korean war era Lazy Dog bomb which was just flung projectiles at a target using purely kinetic energy from the fall. This had expanded upon a concept of throwing "smart rocks" at targets from World War II. Jerry did the math and found that placing explosive warheads in space was a risk to transport them, maintain them, required complex designs, etc. and saved very little from a launched mass perspective. But if you just dropped an object from orbit the kinetic forces alone could exceed conventional explosives and rival nuclear payloads. Project Thor basically then identified that the most effective and foolproof method would be a bar of solid tungsten with a low cross sectional area. Thus a long cylinder, rod, provided the most stable form factor. To achieve par with nuclear payloads the bar would need to be about the size of your average telephone pole. Dropped from orbit a large proportion of its energy would be imparted into the earth causing near complete destruction and causing most of the material at the site to exceed molecular cohesion forces (i.e. vaporize/explode).
My dad knew Jerry Pournelle. Somewhere I have an autographed copy of Starswarm.
As a mechanic I have literally installed or removed thousands of roll pins, not in my wildest dreams have I ever though of using them as a shotgun round.
This has got to be one of the best and at the same time most terrifying episode I have watched on this channel.
That slug is insane.
I love it...❤🥰😍
Me too. I wonder if you could drill a disc to press pins into, how tight and how many could fit? No centerpost, just pins
Same here, but as soon as i saw it i was like "that's genius". They are hard, hollow, and can easily be press fit without needing ultra precision holes.
@@ZacLowing fitting roll pins tight is no problem it's what they are made to do, how many? Depends on the diameter, at the size seen here maybe 4 could replace the center rod.
imagine using dowel pins instead
I stopped, scrolled back and watched this when I saw "Rollpins"... Who'd a thunk it... Lol!
Thanks to Jay for providing this ammo. Thanks to Zack and Shane. Great shooting all in all. Appreciate Jeff and Shane taking time for a second day.
Thank you Nelson!
👍👍👍
Thanks alot Jeff and crew! 👍
Very kind of Clear Ballistics to help too. I don't mind old recast gel, but this was a good use for some fresh targets!
Great job guys...that round is awesome
That is probably the best slug design I have ever seen on the channel. The design is perfect.
i like the second version of the screwdriver mostly
Agreed, this is wild!
Shorten it up a bit so it will tube, make the core tungsten for superior penetration, and it is the PERFECT SLUG: AP and HP combined. Brilliant.
@@crforfreedom7407 Or put a tungsten core in the center of the current core.
@@crforfreedom7407 If I had the tools, machine the core and base from a single piece of tungsten, probably make the base just a little thinner than the aluminum one. Maybe fill the roll pins with powdered magnesium to cause added heartburn to the target.
Y'all did Shane dirty. Crapping on him about being a little high and right, then turn around and blame Zach's shot on the slugs. Y'all owe Shane a beer man.
all my homies hate shane
The last shot on the gel was indeed terrifying.
The mess inside that it caused would be devastating to anything with internal organs.
That guy who made them is a Fing genius.
My only question is, how will a large grizzly take it? 🤔
@@Cugastratos Depending where the shot lands they might be able to "bear" it.
@@FrytheFowl it looks like the slug and the pins would tear the muscles to pieces, literally. It would be a horrible wound, no way to survive that, even if it just bled to death, it would be a quick death.
Yes that is one crazy round
Ive always thought that this channel is the most deserving of a clear ballistics sponsorship.
They've sent us some stuff before, a couple blocks, a couple animals, etc.
What a great name for a company, one problem though is there aren’t any intentional spelling errors to confuse the immigrants and those learning English.
@t😊😅😊xaofledermaus
@@user-nf7ui7dz1z wtf?
@@user-nf7ui7dz1z🤣🤣
This is absolutely one of the most terrifying projectiles I've ever seen.
Yep same. Ballistics are crap, but IF you get hit by one of these things, you're out. Quad damage.
This shotgun shell came from my hometown!! Already earned my adoration
The RODS from GOD go straight to the top of my 12GA destruction list. The rods were almost unstopable, unlike most shell fragments and shot. Thank you, Jay, and Jeff for designing the load.
(machinist here) This is a really cool concept and it's neat to see it work as intended. Some info I'm pulling out my butt: on a manual lathe, you could probably make all these components combined in about 20 minutes as long as you buy the right size stock to machine and have your tools prepped ahead of time, and then after getting your mill coordinates dialed in for the bolt circle maybe another 10 minutes to drill all the holes (give or take a couple depending on if there are pockets in the base section, but it doesn't look like there are). The first one will take the longest to make and the rest will be done in half the time because that's just how manufacturing goes, it's all in the prep. I'd estimate material cost to be around $10 per assembly on the high end, maybe $5 on the low end, manufacturing 2 per hour on manual equipment in a small home garage setup. If it were done with a single CNC lathe and single CNC mill, I'd guess you could make around 10 an hour after fully proofing the programs. And that few per hour only because you would have to swap programs and material between the aluminum parts and the steel parts. That's some damn fine bang for your buck there Jay, good use of roll pins.
Jay said he spent 12 hours to make the 12 slugs. I'm sure if he had to make a 1000 of them he could streamline things
I think you might get down to as low as 1$ and at worst 2$ per round if one just did proper tolerances on the design and batch manufactured the components.
Definitely not cheap to sell still, but as a hobby round for fun or extremely dangerous game round it could work.
Couldn't you just make one really long rod then cut it to length?
CNC machinist?
@Republican-00769 If machined correctly, could make it to be $ 1 or $2 per shell still pricy but worth it for extremely Dangerous game shooting
I honestly don’t even need to watch the last gel shot to be seriously impressed. That is a nasty nasty slug. Evil genius, with incredible talent.
Geneva convention is being updated as we speak. Great round. Thanks for a great show. This is easily in the top 3 for me personally. May God bless you and yours.
The most impressive slug round I've ever seen! Congratulations to the maker of these war crime rounds
It’s not a war crime the first time
@@chadthompson3604 This guy Fat Electricians...
>war
>crime
Pick one
@@smokingcrab2290 it's neither. It's just freakin awesome. Just like a trash bag full of oxygen/ acetylene. Be careful with that though. Static will ruin your day in a hurry.
The pelvic shot brought a whole new meaning to the saying, "where do you want your new a55hole?"
Two inches up and 1 inch to the left please.
It looked like an m80 blew from way down the hershey highway!
@@jeffs7573 That's how the turd would be divided anyhow
Ripped him a new one for sure.
"Holes" pleural lol
Very rarely is there a slug that makes me go “Man, I’d love to buy that.”, but this is one of them.
Thanks to you and Shane for going the extra mile with the gel shot!
Same.
Indeed! I want to buy many of these.
If they fit in a 2.5" shell they'd be impossible to keep in stock.
I am just thinking "shut up and take my money"
You know, I think something like this could be mass produced. My mind is working overtime.
The way the rods spread on impact on that last gel shot was so clean it felt like it was straight out of a video game. Props to Jay he knows his craft.
The last gel shot was exactly what I thought would happen which gave me tremendous satisfaction, nice shot Shane.
Thank you! 😄
@@TheShootShack not just that, your after shot analysis hit all the significant points (like the bonus ejected plug of gel!) while skipping the jibber-jabber, and was well spoken and clear.
Bro, come back and shoot again. Really.
@@ebenwight513 thank you 🙏 i really appreciate the kind words. I will definitely be back out again in the very near future. I was a bit nervous of course. Between that and the sun cooking our brains I fumbled my words on the bucket of sand. I’ll get better on camera. So thank you again I appreciate the kind words brother.
@@TheShootShack See! There you go!
I think follow-up shots may be your thing!
The second gel shot saved you from the comment my dad said to me years ago " We're not mad at you son , just very disappointed ." Those slugs have it all .... initial devastating wound channel and serious penetration .
the gel shot is crazy having the whole assembly still in one piece is a credit to the machinist
Must say those are quite remarkable. For Varmets of all types.
When the trigger is squeezed its nice to know what happens next.
ATF: "I got my lvl 4 plates this time! Aren't you gonna ask?"
RFG: "Don't need to."
AY TEE PH: Dispatch said over the radio the guy's name is Zach, so stay behind the bearcat
Best comment award
You win the comments
I don't get it. Please explain. You're loading your shotgun and saying this to the ATF agent?
Level 4 plates stopped these in the video though. I hope you don’t think that “military grade Kevlar” was lvl4…
The ballistic gel was by far the most interesting test for this bullet. Thanks. Great! :)
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The fact that it expanded in that foam dummy was equally as impressive to me!
The gel showed the crazy penetrating power of all parts of the round, the foam dummys "ripped a new a hole" was hilarious and showed that these function in a variety of targets.
Very cool!
One of the best of these videos you`ve ever made in my opinion. Man, that thing is beastly. Great craftsmanship and interesting video. Thanks guys.
This slug is beyond genius. It's peak engineering and supremely destructive. I'm sure there are some serious battlefield potential and defense capabilities that would be perfect for this slug. I want to buy them.
hit any muscle on any animal and it'll never use that muscle again
Im genuinely interested as well lmao. Id be willing to pay a decent bit for a box of 10
Using type of ammunition would violate the rules of war.
“The Hague Convention of 1899, Declaration III, prohibited the use in international warfare of bullets that easily expand or flatten in the body.”
@@alexschoep7126 If you're a soldier, sure. Civilian, go ahead.
@@alexschoep7126 geneva suggestion plus america still uses flechette
Used to watch damn near 10 years ago. I'm glad you're one of the guys who never had to stop
thanks@!
"Injustice" That second gel shot was SWEEEET! The rear end of the dummy also beautifully showed off the flowering of those rods. NASTY SHELL!
Yes, you’re right it’s a injustice. I actually laughed to my self as we were recording once I realized. 😂😂
I thought it was "missjustice" as a play on injustice 😂
What a brilliantly executed design. I see no reason you couldn't upgrade to a tungsten centre post, which would sort out the steel plate too.
Great job. 👍
Honestly that's a magnificent round. The single projectile accuracy of a slug, the multiple wound channels of buckshot, the base and spreader separate into their own wound channels, and the rods don't have the problem of other fragmenting projectiles where the core has great penetration but the fragments only penetrate a few inches once separated.
Very cool, much love to Jay.
I think this is the first video I’ve been in that has broke 1 million views. Thank you Jeff for letting me be a guest shooter on your channel, and thank you everyone for making @TAUFLEDERMAUS be able to let me go out and goof around for a few hours. Also O.G is not my dad and I’m not his clone. That I know of.
LOL Thank YOU for coming out and helping me. I have a shirt for you but it is XL
Government: We will force you to use lead-free ammo
Innovative Patriots: Lead free ammo
* Loads shotgun with malicious intent* "Shame".
Just goes to show, that all those idiots going "Without lead we can't make proper ammo." were wrong.
Very wrong.
Sort been the trend with each demand. The ideas create something better.
It sort of feels like everybody won, even the environment.
@@DisorderedArray Lead is basically inert in the environment. Unless it is in acidic conditions.
Who ever made those slugs need to patent them. Cuz that was insane
Wow! You put a Tungsten core in that, replace the Rods with ball bearings all stacked in rows and that spreader mechanism at the top is going to send those bearings out near sideways while the Tungsten core goes through darn near everything. Crazy levels of destruction! Well designed Jay!
Let me know when you make them!
While you’re at it? Make a Mauler kind.
Where the rods have a designed hook at the ends of them, that latches back onto the base Core when it starts to spiral in & spread? With added Ball Bearings. And then see what happens 😝
Kinetic energy powered claymore,
@@MikeEwalt portable claymore, psychotic man work
The creator of this slug has a million dollar product. Just amazing engineering!
No shiznit !!
I'd shell out $5 per round. All day long.
Feels very possible war crime-y should it ever get mass produced at an opportune time. That round is horrifying.
@@kr42yw01f As it should be. Shotgun rounds aren't supposed to tickle.
It is impressive. I am plenty happy with buckshot though as it is now. lol
@@kr42yw01f It's very similar to a dum-dum round, except it splinters a lot sooner.
The slowmo on that last gel shot was amazing just to be able to see all the rods come flying out in different directions
I got a Remington 870 loaded up with deer slug.
I’m thinking it’s time to change them out.
Been buying Clear Ballistics for years after getting tired of DIY gelatin making. Excellent product if you can afford it. Nice that they donated some product to you
The way that thing penetrated and opened up in that foam dummy was amazing.
That slow-motion shot through the ballistic gel is just perfect!
thank you
Treat people as if they were what they ought to be and you help them to become what they are capable of being.
Those roll pins are vicious
I don't thing any of them even bent
i wonder how deep it would nail itself on a cement wall
Spring steel. It's very hard and flexible.
Eight spikes of death.
@@taofledermaus Shorten it up a bit so it will tube, make the core tungsten for superior penetration, and it is the PERFECT SLUG: AP and HP combined. Brilliant.
Thank you (Clear Ballistic) for supporting Jeff and his channel and & through him Us the Viewers (the Little People " We The People" 🇺🇸👏👏👏👍❗
thanks
That is phenomenally cool and terrifying. That perfect gel shot is a work of art.
Those are some damage doing pieces of art. Truly impressive to watch. Clear Ballistic's is awesome!
Space 1999 theme + Bush Beans Dog + misc. "rod" humor and a flying bearded Ken finale'...
are you not entertained, TFM faithful? I sure the hell am!
- Ed on the Ridge
You basically just described the animated adult show _Archer,_ and more specifically, the season titled _1999_ lol (which was an amazing season!)
_edit: Which I _*_suspect_*_ Jeff watches Archer, based on his "Do you want ants? Because that's how you get ants" comment in a previous video... (he might've only said the second half of that, I don't recall specifically)_
It's a cryin' shame, Bush's chili beans are legit.
@@Just_Pele Re-fried with extra chilli. 😋
space 1999 first season theme....i personally preffer second season theme though XD
I knew I recognized that.
Jay, savage round. Great video Jeff. Awesome shooting Zach and Shane
thank you William!!
Everybody who owns the shotgun should have about 5000 of these in their basement... As long as it's in a proper storage container to keep them nice and fresh
@@taofledermaushow can I order some of these?
@@timothyevans4323 Jay said he'd make them if someone was willing to pay $120 each for them. lol
Unbelievable
Jay should publish videos of his process, making these.
What a man!
0:45 it was a actual plan drawn up if i remember right, the problems were basically guidance and expense of getting them up there.
I'm glad that target companies are starting to recognize your channel and giving you targets. I enjoy your channel a lot for the fact that you explain loading to all aspect of powder, gaskets, sabots, ect.
thank you Axiom
@@taofledermaus you are very welcome.
Please God do a tier list of all the custom slugs you’ve done that would be sick!!!
As someone who is just getting into guns and is working on getting their license, I absolutely love your channel. It's always amazing to see all the hand-made rounds you guys test and naturally, the insane craftsmanship that goes into making these.
Love from Malta, guys.
thank you@
They make you get a license in Malta?
@@lessforloans Yeah. There is no carry (concealed or otherwise) license, but you can get a hunter's license, a collector's license (that one is for more vintage guns) and a regular shooter's license in two flavors (but they are effectively the same).
There's some limitations to how many weapons you are allowed to have, with the exception of shotguns. Due to a very strong presence of the hunting association on our island, I imagine.
What do you hunt ion the island? Any native stuff or is it mostly imports that took over?
@@lessforloans There are some local birds and a metric ass-load of native rabbits. We have some really protected species (like the Maltese Falcon) that can't be hunted, but otherwise there's enough local fauna and people with a head on their shoulders who don't seem to over-hunt.
The stability and accuracy of these is super impressive, nice work Jay.
That is the most aggressive and effective round I have ever seen in action. Brilliant design and implementation.
thank you Mark
RUclips is funny, I just got a notification for this video???? Oh my could this be the greatest slug of all time? Man u know how to make a slug work Jeff. 13/10 in honor of 13 pieces of this slug. Thank u clear ballistics jel thanks Shane, thanks Jeff.
I released it early for channel members and on Patreon. Thanks for the nice words
@@taofledermaus ❤️
Jay is the MAN. That is the ultimate shotgun round. Thank you for the epic creation. Keep those videos coming Jeff.
thanks
The stability of that round is top teir. Maybe better or the same as slugs. This seems like the 12 guage hollow point.
These are incredible. Jay totally nailed it on his first try. Probably the best slugs I've seen so far! Genius design and amazing results in the end.
It's a little unreliable, but that could be fixed
I'm at a loss for words. That final ballistic gel test.. wow. It definitely would of been an injustice, not to have done so. Awesome.
This is awesome! I used to do this with my 20 gauge when I was a kid. I'm talking about 8 and 9 years old, I learned how to put the wax in the shot to keep it in a tighter pattern, and I started experimenting with other things which wasn't very wise, because one time it blew the end of my Barrel up and I had to shorten the barrel about 6 in, it was still way over 18" but it kicked a hell of a lot harder and I learned a good lesson!
I can’t believe how powerful it is. I hope the creator patents the design. Even if they’re not cost effective they deserve recognition.
Jay has a talent and a little twist mind . They worked perfectly as designed , I believe that would be a one shot bear stopper for sure !
I like this channel because it is a real ballistic channel not only a crazy guy who shott 15 rounds of 50 BMG on a sledgehammer. Greetings from Vienna. sorry for my bad englisch
Message clear and understood! thank you
i want these.
thank you for your second day footage, really appretiated.
Compassion and happiness are not a sign of weakness but a sign of strength.
Holy smokes, these slugs are next-level! Probably one of my favorite user submitted designs on the channel.
thank you
Fantastic round. Thanks to Jay for the round. Thanks to the others for their time 💥
That second gel shot!! The manufacturing is amazing on these. Thanks for another awesome video Jeff!!!
Thanks! Pretty good for just a concept that was never tested before!
Just looking at the design of this round is amazing and the machine work is insane! BRAVO!!! and the proof is in the pudding. Great vid!
Thank you very much!
That round is incredible... I hope it gets a fitting manufacturer that can make them to some degree affordable.
You might as well ask dry water
@@robdeskrd Swapping out materials is a possibility.
@@aleprechaun8972 the main issue would be the number of parts mixed with the machining, the number of man hours into machining each slug would make these an unfeasible production round
@@robdeskrdyou can make dry water! Blend silica dust, water, and air and boom, powdered water.
@robertcapostagno2082
Rob you a crazy mam 😁
So glad clear ballistics reached out to y'all!! This round is, imo, the most terrifying round I've watched y'all shoot. Insane! I want some but I know even if they were mass manufactured, I'd never be able to afford many of them.. talk about top tier hunting ammo. Looks like it would stop anything if loaded with enough powder, or maybe a different powder altogether. Either way, definitely a hunters best friend, look at the spread angle..😮😮
Jay mentioned to me if he sold them, he'd probably charge $125 each for them. lol
@@taofledermaus So he sent you $1500 worth of rounds. Wow.
One of the most incredible rounds you’ve shot and I’ve been watching every video for years.
thanks Jim
It's easy to see slow motion how the slug spins, giving a very good gyroscopic effect.
Congrats from Brazil.
Thank you very much!
This is definitely a top 5 of the most brutal slugs I've seen on this channel or anywhere. Great slug design and you guys made a great video to display what these babies can do!
This is what the R.I.P. shotgun slugs were supposed to do..... absolutely amazing stuff
R.I.P. was supposed to rip people off, and that's what G2 did. I've never seen such brazen and aggressive shilling of a product in my life, and I really do mean shilling, they were NOT subtle about it.
Wow, Clear Ballistics helping out big time! They’ve been supplying stuff to other GunTubers for some time, glad someone pointed you out to them. I hope they feel they got sufficient exposure here to keep it up. I agree you should have started off with something a little less horrendously destructive but here we are. It was worth one-shooting the bust.
Jeff, thanks for posting the short first as a teaser. Posting a short after the main video never made sense to me. I mean, we’ve already seen the show.
Thanks to the guest shooters in particular. There’s just no way you could do this as a one man effort what with multiple cameras, horsing targets around and all the cleanup never mind the hours of editing for a few minutes of video. You’ve made some great friends getting guests in, particularly accidental guests like Breanna. Tell those guys how much we appreciate them especially going the extra day. That ballistic gel shot was a thing of (terrible) beauty.
Thanks to all the crazy people making rounds like this one. I hope we see more from this maker soon.
Once again I want to thank the Patrons and channel members who let us poors freeload on their generosity. We know you couldn’t keep doing this without them. Sincerely, thank you all.
thanks Mark
This looks like a updated version trench gun rounds used in the Vietnam War. They were 12-gauge flechette loads. They were plastic-cased 3” shells manufactured by the Western Cartridge Company and had 20 carbide flechettes 0.73 “ long and weighing about 0.47 g. Federal Cartridge Company also made a version with 25 flechettes packed in a plastic cup with granulated polyethylene to maintain alignment with the bore, this prevented damage to the bore. Since flechettes are lite weight they only had an effective range of about 60 yd max; but they were perfect in the foliage of the jungle. 00 buck flies further and in heavier but the flechettes covered a wider area and despite their lite weight they flew straight since they were shaped like darts. They penetrated helmets and the “body armor” of the day. The wounds were small but incredibly damaging since they hit in large numbers and most stayed in the enemy.
The roll pins in this modern version would also be light but due to the shape they would never fly straight for long through foliage. The center “slug” would be the most damaging and furthest flying, but because the shape could detonate shells in the mag tube it could only be used in stacked mags or loaded one at a time. The original flechettes were a better design but they may not be available anymore.
I'm so glad you guys went back out for that last shot. It was absolutely amazing.
Thank you for taking the time and getting that last shot out. Those really are some pretty vicious rounds.
The black cardboard attached to the gel block is a great touch for seeing what's going on.
I NOT ANGRY!!! JUST JUST WELL HUFFY! LOL great save! Thanks kidderz!
Nice stuff! I really appreciate the slow mo on a round like this. Thanks for the re-shoot as well.
thanks
Man, after so many years watching your tests. Im truly impressed. Thanks for the effort and extra shots Jeff.
Great ammo Jay, keep them comming.
thanks Rigo
Glad you were able to go out and film that gel shot! Those slugs were incredible!
By believing passionately in something that does not yet exist, we create it.
Jeff,Zack,and Shane, y'all rock! Thanks, Jay. You made one hell of slug, and thanks, guys, for shooting them. Peace ✌️
thanks again Benjy
Death on target, behind target, and a 45° radius of unhappiness.
That last gel shot... may this is the new "wadcutter"?
Imagine these being sent into a crowd.. Not good
@@calholli any projectile into a crowd is bad......
@@calholliwhy is you first thought about blasting into a crowd? Are you ok?
@@battleoid2411 Do you not see how they fly in every direction.. It might as well be a grenade. You can't be oblivious to the back drop. I'm talking about a crowd because it's relevant: if you were to shoot a bad guy and there was a crowd behind him, there would be a lot of casualties.
@@drewbondy9414 Yes thank you.. I'm talking about what it does after penetrating. It's very unpredictable and would very likely be banned soon if it was commercialized.
Jay better patent that design real quick before someone else steals his idea lol
Military already has these
That round would be a copper-plated beyoch to mass-manufacture. You're looking at machined components, not stamped. You're looking at eight small tungsten rods, which are always a PITA to source. This is a round of artisanal craft, and absolutely terrifying, but an even bigger nightmare to try and ramp production on.
If you make the core and base-plate out of Aluminum, you could die-cast it, but the spreader plate has to be steel or the rods just punch through it. And even if you handle all that, you'd have an assembly step before it can go to loading. And you'll need to cut some length off of it as well, to fit in a proper 3" shell without bumping the fellow in front.
There's no way you could make them profitable. They'd cost maybe ten times the average slug's price, probably more. There's just too many parts, too much assembly involved. It's much cheaper and thus more profitable to just shove buttplugs into shells and call it a day.
@@ShneekeyTheLost There's a way to die cast the entire thing.. Even the rods, in place. Just make it so they are barely connected and could still break off in high impact. It probably wouldn't flare out as reliably.. but I bet it would still work a lot of the time. It would need a little redesign and wouldn't really be the same thing.. but the same idea.
@@calholli The rods are of a different material than the rest, so unless you want to make the rods Aluminum instead of Tungsten, that's not going to be possible.
Also, assuming you just make the whole thing out of Aluminum, the awkward design is going to generate a relatively high number of failed castings, and it still wouldn't perform as well both due to the lack of mass and due to the rods probably going through the aluminum spreader plate instead of properly spreading.
So you're looking at a slug still 2-3x the cost of a usual one, and without the same performance metrics displayed. It's too complex, as it stands, for mass manufacture. You'd have to get rid of the rods separating to simplify it, in which case just go with a standard butt-plug design which are easy to cast.
@@ShneekeyTheLost I'd like to see it attempted and tested before I made any assumptions. It might perform better than you think.. and there are some talented cast form makers out there.. It might be easy to make.. I'm not real sure. It would be a fun project for someone to attempt. It's not that much different than how a hollow point has break away pedals and is allowed to flare outward. My point was: if it was ever going to be commercially viable -- this is how they would get there. No one is ever going to sell that much tungsten in one slug.. That would be a ridiculous price. lol.. Maybe you could just cast it with holes and then push some steel roll pins through the holes? And on impact they could still escape and fly forward.. IDK.. there are ways to make it cheaper... Maybe make the customer have to buy the roll pins and assemble each one themselves, to save cost? You could get it down to a reasonable price that way.
If you had soft armor on and it didn't penetrate the armor. Could it still shove it inside of you like a HillBilly from the holler?
I appreciate the effort you put into providing a thorough review of every slug you get. It is how testing should be done.
thanks Andrew
Wow! What a great round Jay! Thanks for the presentation Jeff!
thanks Cory
This channel has some of the best camera work on the tube. Thanks Jeff et al
thanks Mark
seeing that round appear to flatten out and pancake on that lead plate only to find out in bire a whole clean thru the lead plate was amazing this brings shotguns so mouch more versatility and something new and fresh to that type of platform its kind of exciting to see how putting some serious thought into the projectiles instead of what fires them shouldve been done a long time ago cuz this brings up so many ideas that I would love to see people explore and how much it could change things as far as the direction of technolgical application being thouight of for new ways to fire projectiles out of a barrel very high speeds