how many Wright brothers or 1940s planes will act as effective anti missile kamikazis?, maybe 20 planes vs 10 missiles? I imagine if a missile hits a fully loaded A10 warthog it's toast or any A10
The YF17/P600 Cobra (precursor to the legacy F/A18 Hornet) was based on the F5, and *designed* to be lightweight. After losing out to the F16 in the Airforce flyoff, the Navy liked the two engine design better than the VFX winning single engine F16 for the VFAX program. Northrop teamed top with McDonnel to beef up the YF17 for carrier ops, adding 10k# of dry weight in the process, and the plane won the VFAX program with the new F/A18 designation.
I thought the F-20 Tigershark was modeled after the F-5 with a much bigger engine. The YF-17 which turned into the F/A-18 was standalone. I know they were both Northrop planes with similar design. The F-20 Tigershark was literally the F-5 with a F-404 engine. Competed against the F-16, It was cheaper but due to corporate politics it lost to the F-16. Kinda sad, looked real cool.
@@neogenmatrix6162 Before the F20, Northrop had the P600 (and before that, the P530) what came from giving the F5 two engines, large LEX, and twin vertical stabs.
@@EfEmDee Too bad Northrop struck out on the F-20 aka F-5G before the rename. Would have been a treat to fly per Chuck Yeager saying it was the finest fighter he's ever flown.
Believe it or not: There were plans drawn-up to make a private jet based upon the Foxbat/Foxhound. However, low demand was seen for it, and the 5-seat tandem configuration for the passengers was seen as uncomfortable and difficult to enter/egress. Still... the idea of running full-burner past someone's Lear or Citation-X is a delicious one!😉
20:51 That was smooth, really caught me off guard 🤣 You ought to do this with multiple bogies, one for each pilot. You each get one missile, preferably the longest range that each plane could carry, then race to see who can take down the contact the furthest away from the airfield. Might have to nerf the F-14 down to its second longest range missile, watching him shoot a phoenix 30 seconds after takeoff might be a bit anticlimactic 😆
I believe I've seen them do that intercept before where each plane was given a target on a different approach corridor to help deconflict targets. IIRC the different Tomcats weren't the fastest to target but did manage to take out bombers before they fired.
I was thinking the exact same, the Su-27 has 9400 liters of internal fuel while the Mig-29 only has 3500. So what's going on here? does the Su-27 have 3 times higher fuel burn at max Afterburner?
Several factors in this. 1- the pilot failed to manage his fuel properly. 2- the 29 had 3 drop tanks basically doubling it's fuel capacity. The Su-27 in game tops out at mach 2.4-2.5 at 15km alt. Climb at mil power and once at altitude light the afterburner. Same for the 29. I have flown the 29 from Incirlik Turkey to Ramat David Isreal on Syria map and back with a single drop tank 4 R-73 and 2 R-27ERs.
Excellent job compared to a lot of other videos of the History of the Military and weapons, your videos are a lot better and more realistic. It's almost like playing a video game! When I am watching your channel it's as if I am right there in the fighter jets and on the battlefield. I love your channel and videos. PLEASE Keep them coming and continue to make sure that you always keep them as life like as possible. Salute to you Sir.
You should get a Canadian Avro Arrow platform and put it up against the winner of the top 50s 60s 70s 80s and 90s jets to see how far out it would have still been relevant if it was put into service instead of being cancelled.
Never really existed so no way to accurately model it in any form and all simulations would be purely fictional even if we have some stats to try and base it off of
You see the article the other day about f22s test fireing 28 missiles? had a headline making it sound like it was just 28 missiles live fires done with f22s but the quote in the article seemed to suggest they were testing out its own "murder mode" with 22 amramms strapped to the wings of one f22 in addition to it's 6+2 internal config. If that's actually a thing there's only one thing left to do! But seriously thanks for all the hard work and pumping out these videos cap.
MiG-29A speed limit at high altitude was around 2500 kph, limited by the heating of the radom. Actually of the Mig-29G but I think there was no difference in this regard.
A thought just to keep thinks tied together would be to run the winner of the "older" planes with the newer models to see if/how much better the new planes would be.
The RAF's English Electric (later BAC) Lightening was still in operation in the 80's, that thing would give them all a run for their money. It's famously the only NATO one of the lot to complete a tail interception of a Concorde at MACH.
@@404-u5f yikes the lightning cannot go mach 1 in a vertical climb, nothing can not even a F-15 streak eagle. The lightning could climb at mach 1 in a 20 degree climb. Vertical=90 degrees, the only thing the lightning would beat is the Mig 31 and the Hornet. The lightning has a 1.00 Thrust to weight ratio with no fuel (Lightning F.6). F-14B has a thrust to weight of around 1.34 with no fuel, i guess people think the Lightning has a 2:1 thrust to weight ratio. It might have the least drag out of of the aircraft in the vid but does not have the thrust to weight ratio to have a chance against the likes of even the F-14B.
@@404-u5f That is some bloke on RUclips that knows nothing about aviation. The F-15 streak eagle with a empty weight thrust to weight ratio of what like 1.60 still can only go mach 1 in a 50 degree climb. You are telling me the lightning can climb mach 1 at 90 degrees when not even the most powerful fighters ever produced couldnt?
@@Chase-Man lol the Imperial War museum is not "some bloke on RUclips" 😂 Edit. You can also look up Mark Felton Productions, Lighting vs U2 and Concorde.
I'd bet with 3 tanks, proper fuel/tank management, and good use of the FPAS page, the Hornet could have more than enough fuel to burn the whole way there and still make it back to an airfield.
+GrimReapersAtomic *The Tomcat should have been an F-14 Alfa, as the United Technologies Pratt & Whitney TF30-P-414A was the majority engine at the time.* Supported with an algorithm known as the Mach Lever, plus the pilot could pull two circuit beakers to defeat fuel limiting for the gas generators.
I believe the A-B models of the F/A-18 would have been a better representation of that bird. The Corps only started taking delivery of the C-D models in the latter half of '89. Even into '90 a lot of them still had the factory paint markings, including panel numbers. We used to joke that the paint wasn't even dry yet on them and still had that "New plane smell'.
Why did you guys choose the B model Eagle over the C? The B is essentially a two seater version of the A where as the C was the inceptor/air superiority model with the factory cheetah blood tanks for engine speed. The Eagle should have gone vertical almost as soon as it got airborne. With a climb rate of over 65,000 feet per minute it would have been at 50,000 and scooting towards intercept before the others.
Not sure how the F-18 did so well. Not sure if rocket ship trajectory is best for going distance quickest. Seemed to take CAP a very long time to pass a wimpy bog. Why did Poosh not have tanks?
At one time I heard that the F16 was speed limited due to the cockpit being so high that it stops the airflow to the rudder at a higher speed. also at the end of the 80's I think they started the IPE engine introduction with the digital controls.
the F-16 is limited by the fixed air intake. And by the fact that it lacks conformal/recessed hardpoints: everything on the Viper must be mounted on pylons and this means a lot and lot of DRAG.
@@andreabindolini7452 Different variants have have different air intakes with different engines and thrust which should give more speed. The fly by wire does limit the air frame to keep things within the flight envelope (over G protection ).
@@turnerdan53 If memory serves (if I'm wrong, let me know), all of those different intakes are still fixed. The common problem with a fixed air intake is that, at supersonic speeds, it cannot manage well the shockwaves into the air duct, and thus it cannot feed the engine with a clean airflow, at the correct (subsonic) speed. An engine cannot ingest a supersonic airflow. The flow that go into the engine must be subsonic even if the fighter is moving in supersonic. There is a reason why top class fighters like F-14 and F-15 have those costly, complicated, fancy variabile air intakes.
@@andreabindolini7452 What you say is true, so they design the air intake for the max speed they think they can get. But the design of the airframe is part of the design limit. The older planes engines have a temperature limit for the engines, But there is a country that does not care for limits and cranks it up to get more output from there engines. I am not sure what part the increase is used for but it's there.
F-15 top speed has been acknowledged as "over Mach 2.8" by the USAF since about 2009. This was based on the well-known intercept of a Serbian MiG-29 in the late 1990s by an F-15C. Obviously, this establishes that with 4 air-to-air missiles the f-15 does in fact virtually equal the mig-31 in top speed but with greater range, vastly greater maneuverability, and almost infinitely higher flexibility, etc.
Always reminds me of ducklings following mommy when you line up. Never played the game, but this is still interesting. Just curious, is there a place I can find a list of available equipment and equipment mods? I have an idea or two that might make interesting scenarios to test.
Starting your turn to intercept at supersonic greater than 90° angle of bank? No surprise you lost your engine! That much air disturbance would (and probably did) compressor stall the shit out of your engine! And at that speed, it’s going to result in an engine failure/fire almost immediately. Be careful of how you maneuver at supersonic speeds. The jets are a bit more sluggish at that speed, and pulling too hard will over stress the airframe, knock out the pilot, or a combination of both! Fun video though!
The Lockheed YF-12 was a prototype that would win. In this scenario, the Mig 31 is the fastest. One other plane that is surprisingly very fast is the Mig 23.
Love the channel! Just curious why you didn’t have both the F-14A and B in the test? Both were used during the 80’s, but the A variant was much more prolific in that decade.
@@rjminar1980 he literally says they ran out of players so they had to use AI for the Foxhound and couldn't take the Mirage in the start of the video....
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Any reason why the English electric lightning wasn't tested in any clip? Designed purely as an interceptor. How about the Tornado F3? That had some interesting results against American fighters during its time in service...
@@ObsydianShade Really? That's very interesting. That type of result would have still been worth it to me. If the answer is that it would do poorly, I'd like to see it to find out and compare it to the other aircraft. You learn something either way.
I'm not trying to be Critical, I LOVE your videos! But honst question, you said max fuel...can't the F/A-18 take 3 ext. fuel tanks? Left Center and right?
If it had enough fuel for that intercept, it would be probably second only to Mig-31. And to Mig-25 of course. Why there was no Mig-25 in 70's race ? :(
Three bird roast lunch - with plum crumble and cream Capt! Lucky I am not flying in this one, after that meal I would need 300000 pounds of thrust and boosters to get me airborne. Loving these Capt please keep um going.
Time to time travel back to the 1940's? The outcome for today was expected. The Mig 31 is just ridiculous power and the F-18 the exact opposite. I thought Matrix was brave flying it. I wonder if you calculated the result from time in the air where Simba would be? Probably in 2nd place at a guess. Mach 2.3 beats Violet's F-14.
Only the F-15EX and other concurrent models of the F-15, like the IA and Q have fly-by-wire. All previous versions have old school hydraulic controls. With that said improvements to the F-15EX engines, body and flight computers make it faster than the current MiG-31 in Russia service. With an unclassified speed of Mach 2.5+, thought its believed it can approach Mach 2.8+ for limited stenches without significant strain on the engines or body of the aircraft.
Uhm, what kind of logistics is this? Why not arrange it so that you actually have a full rooster of human pilots available; find a time that fits enough people? Mirage 2000s joins someways in and the MIG 31 is AI from the start...I don't get the reasoning. Then again...you'll probably end up re-doing this as well, so...maybe its a me problem?
It came in third behind 2 land based jets. The F100s used by the F-15C have similar thrust to the F110s used by the F-14B, but the Eagle airframe is lighter.
@@christianvalentin5344 totally understand and agree but in my mind that F14 was always a winner no matter the odds. Great flight love these comparisons of who's machine is the best 😃👍
Cap, I'm sort of surprised about your initial negativity towards the Su-27, whilst talking up the capability of the F-15, when the Su-27 was specifically designed to surpass the F-15 in capability as it's then perceived chief advisory......🤔 Once again, as in the case of the other 'Bomber interceptor' videos, I think the true reflection of the given fighter/interceptor designs true capabilities would be to compare them in climb rate, using their sensors and weapons (factoring in their weight and drag) to intercept the bomber.
@@grimreapers True and thanks I found it. I actually expected the JA37 Viggen from the 1980’s and not the older AJS37 Viggen from the 1970’s. JA37 had a RM8B engine instead of RM8A and ~10% stronger/faster. AJS37 is an upgraded AJ37 to give it limited multirole capacity and ability for robot 15 (RB15), bomb 90 and Rb74 all weapons developed for JAS39 Gripen+Sidewinder+Surveillance, compared to the original AJ37.
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how many Wright brothers or 1940s planes will act as effective anti missile kamikazis?, maybe 20 planes vs 10 missiles? I imagine if a missile hits a fully loaded A10 warthog it's toast or any A10
Where is the panavia tornado or sepecat jaguar
The YF17/P600 Cobra (precursor to the legacy F/A18 Hornet) was based on the F5, and *designed* to be lightweight. After losing out to the F16 in the Airforce flyoff, the Navy liked the two engine design better than the VFX winning single engine F16 for the VFAX program. Northrop teamed top with McDonnel to beef up the YF17 for carrier ops, adding 10k# of dry weight in the process, and the plane won the VFAX program with the new F/A18 designation.
And THERE YOU GO. Good job!
Besides the fact that Northrop was effectively scammed out from the sales on the F-18L. Yeah, this was a success I suppose.
I thought the F-20 Tigershark was modeled after the F-5 with a much bigger engine. The YF-17 which turned into the F/A-18 was standalone.
I know they were both Northrop planes with similar design. The F-20 Tigershark was literally the F-5 with a F-404 engine. Competed against the F-16, It was cheaper but due to corporate politics it lost to the F-16. Kinda sad, looked real cool.
@@neogenmatrix6162 Before the F20, Northrop had the P600 (and before that, the P530) what came from giving the F5 two engines, large LEX, and twin vertical stabs.
@@EfEmDee Too bad Northrop struck out on the F-20 aka F-5G before the rename. Would have been a treat to fly per Chuck Yeager saying it was the finest fighter he's ever flown.
Believe it or not: There were plans drawn-up to make a private jet based upon the Foxbat/Foxhound. However, low demand was seen for it, and the 5-seat tandem configuration for the passengers was seen as uncomfortable and difficult to enter/egress. Still... the idea of running full-burner past someone's Lear or Citation-X is a delicious one!😉
I think Concorde did that on a routine basis every time she crossed the pond . . .
@@nigeldepledge3790 Yeah... but this way, it'd be personal.😁
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20:51 That was smooth, really caught me off guard 🤣
You ought to do this with multiple bogies, one for each pilot. You each get one missile, preferably the longest range that each plane could carry, then race to see who can take down the contact the furthest away from the airfield. Might have to nerf the F-14 down to its second longest range missile, watching him shoot a phoenix 30 seconds after takeoff might be a bit anticlimactic 😆
I believe I've seen them do that intercept before where each plane was given a target on a different approach corridor to help deconflict targets. IIRC the different Tomcats weren't the fastest to target but did manage to take out bombers before they fired.
Love these Intercepts! Very interesting to watch the 'Classes' going canopy to canopy!
The English Electric Lightning entered service in 1960 and was retired in 1988, it was able to intercept both Concorde and the U2 !
Cool story but is it in the game....!
Probably the episode with the most 'official' aircraft in. Great series!
MiG-29 is notorious for not having legs. How is it outlasting an SU-27?
I was thinking the exact same, the Su-27 has 9400 liters of internal fuel while the Mig-29 only has 3500.
So what's going on here? does the Su-27 have 3 times higher fuel burn at max Afterburner?
Several factors in this. 1- the pilot failed to manage his fuel properly. 2- the 29 had 3 drop tanks basically doubling it's fuel capacity.
The Su-27 in game tops out at mach 2.4-2.5 at 15km alt. Climb at mil power and once at altitude light the afterburner. Same for the 29. I have flown the 29 from Incirlik Turkey to Ramat David Isreal on Syria map and back with a single drop tank 4 R-73 and 2 R-27ERs.
I made a mistake, have already fixed and re-recorded new version.
Excellent job compared to a lot of other videos of the History of the Military and weapons, your videos are a lot better and more realistic. It's almost like playing a video game! When I am watching your channel it's as if I am right there in the fighter jets and on the battlefield. I love your channel and videos. PLEASE Keep them coming and continue to make sure that you always keep them as life like as possible. Salute to you Sir.
Just a thought chaps, when you re do the videos, how about adding more target aircraft because let's face it who doesn't like extra boom boom!
^^ fair comment
Some serious Ace Combat vibes with that take-off. Love it.
*Invasion of Gracemeria intensifies*
You should get a Canadian Avro Arrow platform and put it up against the winner of the top 50s 60s 70s 80s and 90s jets to see how far out it would have still been relevant if it was put into service instead of being cancelled.
no avro arrow in dcs
Never really existed so no way to accurately model it in any form and all simulations would be purely fictional even if we have some stats to try and base it off of
You should/could have included the winner from the previous decade, to see how well it would fare against these slightly later designs
It'd be interesting to see another run with the F14 on a better vector
You see the article the other day about f22s test fireing 28 missiles? had a headline making it sound like it was just 28 missiles live fires done with f22s but the quote in the article seemed to suggest they were testing out its own "murder mode" with 22 amramms strapped to the wings of one f22 in addition to it's 6+2 internal config. If that's actually a thing there's only one thing left to do!
But seriously thanks for all the hard work and pumping out these videos cap.
It's a shame that Europe never operated any aircraft in the 80's. I thought they did, but must have been imagining them!
I know what you mean, I must have imagining the Tornado ADV?
@@Sol_Black The Tornado ADV was actually very fast with its wings swept back. I'd have backed it to win a low level intercept.
Freaking Violet!! 🤣🤣🤣
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Beautiful jets racing with the beautiful people of GR first thing in morning, at least for me. ☕️🌝 well done.
In real life the MIG 31 couldn't sustain supersonic flight for that long.
DCS seems to take a more optimistic approach to Soviet equipment performance than it does others.
MiG-29A speed limit at high altitude was around 2500 kph, limited by the heating of the radom. Actually of the Mig-29G but I think there was no difference in this regard.
Sweet speeds!
Have you done the Warbirds?
I'd love to see the Canvas kites race like this as well.
Dora would dominate that race anyway...
Yes, yes, YES!
Not yet.
A thought just to keep thinks tied together would be to run the winner of the "older" planes with the newer models to see if/how much better the new planes would be.
The Soloviev afterburner turbojets *slap*
The RAF's English Electric (later BAC) Lightening was still in operation in the 80's, that thing would give them all a run for their money. It's famously the only NATO one of the lot to complete a tail interception of a Concorde at MACH.
Just came to comment the same, mach 1 in a vertical climb, I think they were only phased out in 1986
Maybe it ought to join a 70s race instead?
@@404-u5f yikes the lightning cannot go mach 1 in a vertical climb, nothing can not even a F-15 streak eagle. The lightning could climb at mach 1 in a 20 degree climb. Vertical=90 degrees, the only thing the lightning would beat is the Mig 31 and the Hornet. The lightning has a 1.00 Thrust to weight ratio with no fuel (Lightning F.6). F-14B has a thrust to weight of around 1.34 with no fuel, i guess people think the Lightning has a 2:1 thrust to weight ratio. It might have the least drag out of of the aircraft in the vid but does not have the thrust to weight ratio to have a chance against the likes of even the F-14B.
@@404-u5f That is some bloke on RUclips that knows nothing about aviation. The F-15 streak eagle with a empty weight thrust to weight ratio of what like 1.60 still can only go mach 1 in a 50 degree climb. You are telling me the lightning can climb mach 1 at 90 degrees when not even the most powerful fighters ever produced couldnt?
@@Chase-Man lol the Imperial War museum is not "some bloke on RUclips" 😂
Edit. You can also look up Mark Felton Productions, Lighting vs U2 and Concorde.
Now, I want to see Experimentals doing bomber intercepts: F16XL, F-15 Screamin' Eagle, F-20, X-31, X-36, YF-23, X-29... THE WEIRDER THE BETTER!
with 1960s and 1970s aircraft, when you over rev an engine it just turns off. when you over rev a 1980s mig 29 engine, it blows it
I'd bet with 3 tanks, proper fuel/tank management, and good use of the FPAS page, the Hornet could have more than enough fuel to burn the whole way there and still make it back to an airfield.
So strange the results Cap ...... I mean the 31 yeah but the rest.... unexpected for sure :) Great vid! Now do it with the DCS choppers please!
Like to see how the f106 would have done here, was in a 106 unit in the 70s
First and possibly 2nd place Planes from each decade race!!👍
+GrimReapersAtomic *The Tomcat should have been an F-14 Alfa, as the United Technologies Pratt & Whitney TF30-P-414A was the majority engine at the time.* Supported with an algorithm known as the Mach Lever, plus the pilot could pull two circuit beakers to defeat fuel limiting for the gas generators.
If the engine didn't fall apart. Very powerful, but unreliable engines in the A model. Lots of hanger time.
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The B/D models have longer legs, because the TF30 is a hell of a fuel hog.
Add the Tornado next time!
I believe the A-B models of the F/A-18 would have been a better representation of that bird. The Corps only started taking delivery of the C-D models in the latter half of '89. Even into '90 a lot of them still had the factory paint markings, including panel numbers.
We used to joke that the paint wasn't even dry yet on them and still had that "New plane smell'.
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Simple = Good
These videos are awesome!! Please do all the aircraft and helicopters even. !!
Mirage: "I am computer limited to Mach 2.3"
MiG-29: "Left engine fire"
Why did you guys choose the B model Eagle over the C? The B is essentially a two seater version of the A where as the C was the inceptor/air superiority model with the factory cheetah blood tanks for engine speed.
The Eagle should have gone vertical almost as soon as it got airborne. With a climb rate of over 65,000 feet per minute it would have been at 50,000 and scooting towards intercept before the others.
0:58 he says F-15C.......
Tailhook drag = very yes
This is the airshow of my dreams!
Not sure how the F-18 did so well. Not sure if rocket ship trajectory is best for going distance quickest. Seemed to take CAP a very long time to pass a wimpy bog. Why did Poosh not have tanks?
They've buffed it in game recently, accelerating WAY too fast now.
Cap : "I think that went almost perfectly. "
Also Cap : "My engines are on fire."
There we are. That famous British understatement.
YF-16 was in the lightweight fighter competition, along with the YF-17. The F-15 isn't very lightweight.
Why did you forget JA 37 fighter-interceptor . Viggen is one of the few planes that got a radarlock on SR-71.
Viggen in 1970'race: 1970's (Attempt 1 of 2): ruclips.net/video/7yyt2tW27qA/видео.html
Would be interesting to have the winner from each generation face off
agree
At one time I heard that the F16 was speed limited due to the cockpit being so high that it stops the airflow to the rudder at a higher speed. also at the end of the 80's I think they started the IPE engine introduction with the digital controls.
the F-16 is limited by the fixed air intake. And by the fact that it lacks conformal/recessed hardpoints: everything on the Viper must be mounted on pylons and this means a lot and lot of DRAG.
@@andreabindolini7452 Different variants have have different air intakes with different engines and thrust which should give more speed. The fly by wire does limit the air frame to keep things within the flight envelope (over G protection ).
@@turnerdan53 If memory serves (if I'm wrong, let me know), all of those different intakes are still fixed. The common problem with a fixed air intake is that, at supersonic speeds, it cannot manage well the shockwaves into the air duct, and thus it cannot feed the engine with a clean airflow, at the correct (subsonic) speed. An engine cannot ingest a supersonic airflow. The flow that go into the engine must be subsonic even if the fighter is moving in supersonic. There is a reason why top class fighters like F-14 and F-15 have those costly, complicated, fancy variabile air intakes.
@@andreabindolini7452 What you say is true, so they design the air intake for the max speed they think they can get. But the design of the airframe is part of the design limit. The older planes engines have a temperature limit for the engines, But there is a country that does not care for limits and cranks it up to get more output from there engines. I am not sure what part the increase is used for but it's there.
A good one. Cap, you are _always_ on fire!
Short answer, Interms of Playable aircraft - MiG 29
F-15 top speed has been acknowledged as "over Mach 2.8" by the USAF since about 2009. This was based on the well-known intercept of a Serbian MiG-29 in the late 1990s by an F-15C. Obviously, this establishes that with 4 air-to-air missiles the f-15 does in fact virtually equal the mig-31 in top speed but with greater range, vastly greater maneuverability, and almost infinitely higher flexibility, etc.
Real life fighter jet races would be amazing
MIG-31 & F15 strike eagle smoke every other jet with ease. The MIG-25 is fastest but can't hang in the LONG run.
Always reminds me of ducklings following mommy when you line up. Never played the game, but this is still interesting.
Just curious, is there a place I can find a list of available equipment and equipment mods? I have an idea or two that might make interesting scenarios to test.
"This, Is gonna be a good one!"
**EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE**
That would be an absolutely deafening takeoff
Starting your turn to intercept at supersonic greater than 90° angle of bank? No surprise you lost your engine! That much air disturbance would (and probably did) compressor stall the shit out of your engine! And at that speed, it’s going to result in an engine failure/fire almost immediately.
Be careful of how you maneuver at supersonic speeds. The jets are a bit more sluggish at that speed, and pulling too hard will over stress the airframe, knock out the pilot, or a combination of both!
Fun video though!
Fun times watch these races! Can't wait for the next one.
The lighting electronics old but it’s record’s speaks volumes
The Lockheed YF-12 was a prototype that would win. In this scenario, the Mig 31 is the fastest. One other plane that is surprisingly very fast is the Mig 23.
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Cap, have you heard of the F-11 Tiger? It managed to shoot itself down when testing the cannon, can you do something similar in DCS?
I thing they do this in dcs in the past
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Love the channel! Just curious why you didn’t have both the F-14A and B in the test? Both were used during the 80’s, but the A variant was much more prolific in that decade.
guessing that they are the only versions available in game?
@@ThePereubu1710 The A and B are both available.
Maybe they didnt have enough human players?
@@rjminar1980 he literally says they ran out of players so they had to use AI for the Foxhound and couldn't take the Mirage in the start of the video....
@@BlackHawkBallistic then take the A over the B if it’s and 90’s race.
No Simba! :(
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@@slowhornet4802 😆😂😆 DAMN, Thank you I guess!!!
Any reason why the English electric lightning wasn't tested in any clip? Designed purely as an interceptor.
How about the Tornado F3? That had some interesting results against American fighters during its time in service...
there is no lightning in DCS
@@Elcicikos I don't play the game so I was just checking, guessing it's the same reason for the F3 too?
@@Jase29 Yes
Just waiting for a flyable public version to appear in game.
Off the books, F15 or MiG 25 should be the smashing this. F14 for third place.
Bring back the EE.Lightning! ❤️
I would have loved to have seen the Tornado ADV be a part of this. Someday I suppose.
@@ObsydianShade Really? That's very interesting. That type of result would have still been worth it to me. If the answer is that it would do poorly, I'd like to see it to find out and compare it to the other aircraft. You learn something either way.
IRL, what does am F-15 drop-tank cost, do you suppose?
I love the mig 31 because it's so good at long range intercepts
A crappy plane but maybe the best interceptor ever produced.
I'm not trying to be Critical, I LOVE your videos! But honst question, you said max fuel...can't the F/A-18 take 3 ext. fuel tanks? Left Center and right?
Pilot requested only 2 bags based on calcs, so allowed it.
@@grimreapers Awesome! Thank you, Cap!
It’s a great day!
never apologize for a jet's loudness lol
DCS where is the damn Mig23/23bn??
If it had enough fuel for that intercept, it would be probably second only to Mig-31. And to Mig-25 of course. Why there was no Mig-25 in 70's race ? :(
do a low altitude intercept ( under 500ft) at 350 miles and see who gets there fastest? or has that been done already?? good showing guys.
It brings some challenges. Fuel burn us MUCH higher low down, so you could do 350 miles BUT you'd have to go REALLY slow to save fuel.
@@grimreapers the target is at 350 miles and it's height is at 500 ft not your interceptors?
Three bird roast lunch - with plum crumble and cream Capt!
Lucky I am not flying in this one, after that meal I would need 300000 pounds of thrust and boosters to get me airborne.
Loving these Capt please keep um going.
If there is a mod for the avro arrow you should try the sixties run again with it
I’m with CAP on this in the start of this.. imho - F15
The tornado Adv F.3 is missing
I know cap bust he's jet.. lol. Good game. 👍😊
Want to See an F-111 in the mix
agree
Time to time travel back to the 1940's?
The outcome for today was expected. The Mig 31 is just ridiculous power and the F-18 the exact opposite. I thought Matrix was brave flying it.
I wonder if you calculated the result from time in the air where Simba would be? Probably in 2nd place at a guess. Mach 2.3 beats Violet's F-14.
The f-15 can stay on the burners longer than any Russian airplane in real life.
Only the F-15EX and other concurrent models of the F-15, like the IA and Q have fly-by-wire. All previous versions have old school hydraulic controls. With that said improvements to the F-15EX engines, body and flight computers make it faster than the current MiG-31 in Russia service. With an unclassified speed of Mach 2.5+, thought its believed it can approach Mach 2.8+ for limited stenches without significant strain on the engines or body of the aircraft.
Uhm, what kind of logistics is this?
Why not arrange it so that you actually have a full rooster of human pilots available; find a time that fits enough people?
Mirage 2000s joins someways in and the MIG 31 is AI from the start...I don't get the reasoning.
Then again...you'll probably end up re-doing this as well, so...maybe its a me problem?
5:18 F15 was developed as a bomber. The F 16 as a fighter, didn't you mean the F16? Amazing video guys. Legendary stuff!!
Nope air superiority for the f15c bro
Mig-31 ZOOM climb to intercept the SR-71 - was always going to win
Do this with the draken, gripen and viggen!!
HAHAHAH man! the F15 is such a Hot Rod!!!!
nothing like a good bonking hey cap #trapdoor
The Harrier went into service April 1980 ....just saying but you guys know your stuff😆
also the Tornado went into service in 79/80
The F16 is the only single engine aircraft here, seems like it should have taken off 1st since it takes time to start a jet engine.
Enjoyed this. Had high hopes for the F14.😕
It came in third behind 2 land based jets. The F100s used by the F-15C have similar thrust to the F110s used by the F-14B, but the Eagle airframe is lighter.
@@christianvalentin5344 totally understand and agree but in my mind that F14 was always a winner no matter the odds. Great flight love these comparisons of who's machine is the best 😃👍
I can't wait to see an English Electric Lightning in the game - as soon as it is can you re-run these tests? :D
Hey cap you should redo video where you had the worlds Carriers vs the universe but instead of the legacy systems, use the modern technology.
wilco but it's a way down the line.
DCS needs more British fighters.
MiG-31. Next.
What about the F111 Aardvark? Not a dedicated fighter, but it could act the role.
My money is on the F-14 Tomcat.
Whait, The F14 is carrying a LANTIRN on an AA Mission?
Cap, I'm sort of surprised about your initial negativity towards the Su-27, whilst talking up the capability of the F-15, when the Su-27 was specifically designed to surpass the F-15 in capability as it's then perceived chief advisory......🤔
Once again, as in the case of the other 'Bomber interceptor' videos, I think the true reflection of the given fighter/interceptor designs true capabilities would be to compare them in climb rate, using their sensors and weapons (factoring in their weight and drag) to intercept the bomber.
Where are the mighty SAAB Viggen and Draken?
I think Viggen was in this one: 1970's (Attempt 1 of 2): ruclips.net/video/7yyt2tW27qA/видео.html
@@grimreapers True and thanks I found it. I actually expected the JA37 Viggen from the 1980’s and not the older AJS37 Viggen from the 1970’s.
JA37 had a RM8B engine instead of RM8A and ~10% stronger/faster.
AJS37 is an upgraded AJ37 to give it limited multirole capacity and ability for robot 15 (RB15), bomb 90 and Rb74 all weapons developed for JAS39 Gripen+Sidewinder+Surveillance, compared to the original AJ37.
Hey cap can you do another version of the uk/USA carrier striker group vs china/Russia carrier strike group
Yeh but there's a load of stuff we need to get working first.