Thank you for defending gamester81. He is indeed one of the nicest people you can ever find in a lifetime and didnt deserve what people are doing with him. You know, he was fooleed too. No one wants to have his name associated with scam on purpose.
yeah pat does owe him shit gamester actually should apologize to pat for all the hate sent his way .When you speak the truth and facts you never ever owe anybody an apology for that shit.If you can't take the backlash for obvious scam you supported then you should get off youtube .That's what happens in reality if you want to be a over sensitive bitch go get PC skewered else.
P.P.S. John "Gamester81" Lester is indeed one of the nicest guys on RUclips also, and anything but the scammer type. Chances are John didn't look deep into this (because he has a real career, wife, kids) and took what he was told at face value. Because he's the type of dude that trusts people and sadly gets taken advantage of because he's so nice. I'm seriously appalled at the community for trying to bash him like that. In fact, I'm disgusted. Shame on anyone who jumped on Gamester81.
It's amazing to me how well alpha can go on a rant and never really trip over his own words. It's like a perfect stream of consciousness with no disconnect to his mouth.
ReviewTechUSA would have endorsed the Coleco Chameleon if only they had offered him $200. #neverforgetBC #neverforgive #reviewcourtpaperssoon #justiceforBC
When I was a young teen circa 1982-84, just for shits and giggles, I'd mock up my own "WilkinVision" dream game console/computer out of paper and cardboard. I'd fashion several plug-in peripherals and modules for it, akin to the add-ons for Coleco's ADAM, or Timex/Sinclair's line of slim, membrane-keyed machines, or even Mattel's promised Intellivision vaporware "expansion". I'd build the works - console, display, deluxe joystick, RAM carts, keyboard, disk/tape drive, mini-printer, all that jazz - and show it to friends and classmates, joking about its ridiculously advanced imaginary specs. "Plays Atari 2600/5200/7800, Odyssey 2, Vectrex, Bally, and all British Columbia fresh fruit!" 34 years later, and the hapless goofs and conscience-free scamlords behind the "VGS RetroMeleon by ColeYoMomma" are pretty much doing the same thing. Their prototypes, to date, have exactly the same original digital guts as my WilkinVision, which is far, far less than zero. Of course, the difference between my fanciful silliness and their loopy retro dream is that real money is involved and personal reputations are at stake...and the whole matter is turning into the kind of wild tale that folk musicians write blockbuster songs about.
You went full savage mode in this one, and THANK YOU for speaking for Gamester81! I saw his video today and he showed some very shitty tweets, comments and posts he was getting. Very unjustified.
Pat didn't attack gamster. he made the statement that anyone who promoted the chameleon should apologize because it was a rip off. gamster didn't deserve to be crucified over the damn thing though. alpha being alpha ;) you guys need to stop fighting over the petty shit. get a beer guys.
+C.J. Jones pat attacked him for his click bait videos. Pat is the scumbag that copy/pasted an entire book from wikipedia, he resells video games at higher prices to earn profit and bitches about everything while having zero life experience. Meanwhile gamester81 makes actual games and acts like an adult
+C.J. Jones its not that he was being crucified, its due to his "apology" video he created, the apologies over on the AA forum and then basically undoing that apology on his own FB account
+C.J. Jones Pat maybe didn't intend to attack Gamester81 directly, but that's how a lot of his fans took it. They started attacking Gamester81's reputation. I agree the whole thing is dumb, but Pat did start it.
Docter Zaius I think it was just a misunderstanding. i feel bad for gamster, but i agree with pat. Anyone who promoted the console knowing it was "snake oil" should apologize. if gamester doesnt belong to that category than he has no reason to apologize. If anyone is to blame its the fans that acted so rash
C.J. Jones How can you feel bad for Gamester while agreeing with Pat? If you agree with Pat on everything then you are saying that anyone developing games for it need to apologize because Mike Kennedy lied? That's stupid...
"Them times where everyone wants drama to end along with you but it's far too profitable for some. Even at the cost of friends" ^^^ Alpha, you tweeted this out. Talking about Pat being Passive Aggressive when that's what you're doing right now too. Now the whole guilty by association thing I might disagree with Pat with but your statement was kinda below the belt. How can you claim Pat did the video FOR PROFIT when he's been covering the topic for months and this was the final blow from the whole project. What if I went to FinalBosses and called you and Johnny Sellouts too for covering topics you liked? I respect all three of you but this anger between you three needs to end.
+Chest Pec Respect pat does every video FOR PROFIT. He has a donation button as the first link under EVERY VIDEO. He seeks out drama and has never had to answer to anyone physically and it shows. He truly is a punk because no normal adult would act like the little bitch he acts like on the regular. He's a 30 year old man child that whines about comic books, video games and people who things with their life.
+Chest Pec Respect "Them times where everyone wants a shitty console to go away, but it's far too profitable for some. Even at the cost of viewers' respect"
I am appalled with the gaming community for attacking Gamester81 in the way they have. At the same point, Pat is getting WAY too much heat, and he was right to ask those that promoted the system to let the internet know what they know since no one else will speak about it on the Retro VGS team. I also like you and your content Bill, but you called Pat passive aggressive but then did the same thing right back to him. This hate and war needs to stop. As someone who likes and enjoys content from all 3 of you guys, you are dividing the community on an issue that there isn't anything to be divided on. I thought the 3 of you were friends, and I think you guys need to all hug it out and apologize to one another.
+AwesomeAJ18 he never did. Talk about lynch mob. Pat clearly said anyone defending it after the mini snes/ fake board which im pretty sure @gamester81 never did . but hey lets lynch a guy to prove lynching is wrong.
This was a very informative and very powerful episode, Alpha. I've been going through some shit lately, and the point you made about defending the innocent is something I needed to hear. I posted a post on Tumblr about the same topic on race, religion, and sexuality, expressing a huge "fuck you" to anyone who needlessly attacks people without repercussion to thier actions. My heart goes out to that poor game dev. That's really fucking sad.
+MegamanNG I knew it was going to be bad to be honest. I get that our childhood was great with the amount of NES/SNES games we got, but it seemed like a cash grab, a bad one.
PAT the NES Punk has lost my respect when he opened the whole witchhunt against people like Gamester81 and other people who have nothing to do with the Coleco Chameleon's manufacturing.
***** him and his company were making ports for the console. so basically he was supporting the console until he had to back down from it after seeing the new agreement papers he had asked for.
Alpha, please talk of all the mass censoring of recent Nintendo published titles in NA and EU (FE: Fates, Bravely Second, Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem, etc.).
1993: The Atari Jaguar shell makes it's debut. January 1996: Atari releases it's final game for the Jaguar as it burns up in flames and dies. During the 2000's: 50% of leftover Atari Jaguar shells are turned into DENTISTRY machines (seriously, look it up) torturing everyone who visits the dentist to the point where they want to burn up in flames and die. 2015: Leftovers of the Jaguar shells are used for the Retro VGS... which burns up in flames and dies. 2016: The Retro VGS is recycled into the the Coleco Chameleon... which burns up in flames and dies. What's next??? Not sure... maybe 2017: Trump comes into presidential power and uses Jaguar shells to build a wall on the border of Canada to keep Americans like me from running into Canada and also uses Jaguar shells to build that wall on the border of Mexico. He also uses multiple Jaguar shells to launch an attack that causes World War 3 and everything burn up in flames and dies... LMAO!!!! But no worries... I have a time machine. I will go back to 1993 to stop the creation of the Jaguar shell... wish me luck!!
Just another kickstarter scam, as for the Jaguar..I got a pre-owned one back in the day with Doom and AVP, I had the system for about a month before I traded it to my friend for an N64 lol :P
Ironically, this is what is feeding the very vocal minority of people who were claiming he was involved. The majority of people simply wanted him to apologize for giving Mike any airtime and to warn his fans since they were the ones being exposed to lies. This is is important so that the chameleon team can't pull this scheme again. You might wonder, "Why apologize?" Because as a businessman and RUclips celebrity what he endorses carries weight. He didn't do his due diligence, but also doubled down by getting overly defensive. All Gamester needed to do was follow the lead of everyone else involved with this guy (Mike Kennedy) and totally distance himself, instead he's become paranoid and is downplaying the whole thing while trying to simultaneously condemn it which is sending out mixed signals and adding fuel to the fire. Being overly defensive is not helping. Other parties have already gotten a pass because they didn't talk out of both sides of their head and remained calm. John doesn't seem to be able to do this and is taking things way too personally, which is attracting attention instead of remedying the situation. When you own a business, you have to be ready to cut ties with any partners if they become embroiled in something as serious as attempted fraud. Doesn't he understand that by downplaying this even slightly, he's hurting himself? He apologized, but then backpedaled and started downplaying what is essentially FRAUD because of how freaked out he is about it damaging his reputation. Had he kept quiet after properly distancing himself from the Coleco team, this would have blown over. He's so freaked out about this that he thinks Pat is attacking him. Incredible.
Thank you Alpha for telling these morons facts about Gamester81's involvement. Hard to present Reason, Logic, and Common Sense to these psycho puppets.
I don't know why I was thinking of it a Super Nintendo but that was the first thing that popped into my head when you asked what i thought was inside. I honestly didn't expect that to be true I mean seriously? Wow this is horrible. xD
I know this is a week late and you'll probably never read it, but thank you for sticking up for John. I've been watching him on and off for a few years. He always seemed like just a nice guy who loved games and appreciated the history of them. It's a shame that he has been crucified like this. The gamer community has just become toxic. Rich from Review tech was talking about that Anita woman quitting gaming series. I'm glad he brought up the fact that she has made it difficult for female gamers to express their opinions and making the culture worse for us. Now, it looks like these assholes are just going after anyone because of a mob mentality. I'll continue to play the games I enjoy. I've been a gamer since I was eight years old and these idiots are not gamers. They are annoying poseurs.
About Gamester81, I think a lot of it isn't so much an SJW-style lynch mob, but rather the assumption that he was in on it. It did appear at first as though he were closer to the development than perhaps he was. In many ways, G81 is a victim of Mike Kennedy's con, because he was pretty eager to sell the system. HOPEFULLY his game will still come out OK, and I'll certainly look at it if it shows up on SNES or Genesis, but I honestly hope the end result of this whole fucking episode is that everyone looks at people preying on the nostalgic and the hipster with a bit more skepticism. Many people - and yes, this includes G81 - were far too willing to cheer this thing on in the very beginning, before the AtariAge forum started poking holes in it. People need to be more skeptical of things on the internet. Notice how I said SKEPTICAL and not CYNICAL. There's another tendency in the gaming community to assume everything is horrible in gaming, when really, incidents like this are the exception far more than the rule. I really hope this whole thing doesn't damage bunnyboy's Nintendo AVS.
Not to mention that I never mentioned this "Pat" guy or anybody, and was just saying that it was a dick move for people to be going after Gamester81. Which, is something that HAS happened if you go off a video of his about it.
fuk the internet strikes again. Ive been a subscriber and fan of gamester for years. he does not deserve this. hopefully some good will come of this and gamester will gain a bunch of new fans off the back of this bs.
Im not taking any sides here but for one Pat never once mentioned gamester81, or even alluded to the fact he was talking about him. He named names, websites, people associated with the project, none of which were G81. If you *actually* fucking listen he went on to say that anybody still shilling for the CC AFTER the NY toyfair debacle should apologize. Now to my knowledge G81 was NOT promoting the Chameleon after the toyfair incident, and like he said in the video he was caught off guard and pulled support for the system. Now unfortunately G81 was working on porting over a pack in game for the console, so the very vocal minority made a wrong assumption and yes some people got on G81 for his perceived involvement with the CC without actually knowing the facts of the matter. These people were of course in the wrong but they came to that conclusion on their own, because again Pat never mentioned G81 nor did anything he said really apply to G81... Some people are saying G81 made the video because of a guilty conscience, well no he made the video because people were accusing him of something that wasnt true, so he did it to clear the air and put his side of the story out there. The video was mostly fine but he went wrong in a few places... 1. He was still after everything essentially defending Mike Kennedy and the Chameleon with a "what if" defense, well sorry after 3 failed attempts at fooling your would be customers there is no "what if" anymore. Mike Kennedy is a pathological liar and would say or do anything to re-cooperate the money he blew on the Jaguar tooling. What he did at the NY toyfair, and with the DVR card is considered attempted fraud. If he had his way they would be running a kickstarter campaign as we speak taking money from unsuspecting customers/investors. If only it wasnt for atariage and that pesky dog... 2. He took offense where there was none. Again Pat never mentioned him by name nor did he imply he was talking about G81. People assumed based on his involvement with porting a game for the console that he had something to do with it and that was wrong, but that's also not on Pat... Watch G81's video he says that he was lied to, he never signed any paperwork, and that he pulled support for the console the day before the kickstarter (after ny toyfair). Now if i'm G81, co-owner of Collectorvision games and all of this is happening around this project that i am closely associated with, the absolute FIRST thing i would do is make a public statement on the matter, and distance myself from it at all cost to protect my company's image and my reputation. Otherwise staying silent looks 100% suspect, and i know he said he didn't want to stir shit up but as somebody directly associated with the project, and co-owner of a company working on a game for the console he or his company really should have addressed this in a video or even a press release. A quick explanation would have avoided all of this bullshit, a simple "While we were initially excited about the potential of the chameleon, it turns out the project isn't what we thought and so we are officially pulling our support for the Chameleon"... No need to be negative, no need to throw anybody under the bus, but unfortunately G81 is a nice guy, and he let his personal relationship with Mike cloud his judgement on the issue. All of the writing was on the wall, but he figured he would kind of play it neutral and see what happens, well that was clearly the wrong move. No offense to you Alpha because i like your channel but you're literally doing the same thing to Pat that you criticized him for, you are using your platform to pick sides rather than actually clear the air. John has no bad blood with Pat, a quick look at his twitter shows that he wants to move on and he even says in his video that he hopes Pat can still come down to for the expo and not let this come between them. Stop stirring shit that isn't there because you are making yourself part of the problem sending your 444k subscribers after him, and really being a monumental hypocrite in the process. I stand by both Pat and John in this matter, and firmly against Mike Kennedy and the Coleco Chameleon or whatever the hell they are calling it this week.
This is the first time I've heard about this since it was first announced... I was really looking forward to seeing a modern cartridge-based console on store shelves. It's too bad that the people behind it are making that idea less of a reality, not only for themselves but also for similar ideas in the future.
If anything, just the chosen controller should be an indicator of quality. I went through THREE of those SNES looking WiiU pads. First one, the D-Pad was busted. I'd press down and it's as if the down button had turbo on! Exchanged it. Had one for a while. Kid nephew broke the USB charge port. Took the thing apart, and the way the port was connected, it wasn't surprising it snapped! Got a 3rd one from a buddy.....Stopped taking a charge after a few weeks...Good job lads.
I honestly thought the Coleco Chameleon wasn't that big in terms of gamers knowing about it. I've been following the story from Pat the NES punk. Glad to hear people actually know what a shit storm it really is. What saddens me though, is that I didn't know that people were catching major flak for developing games for it. Like really?! ... Wow... Well thanks for shedding light on the situation @AlphaOmegaSin I had no idea...
Thanks for explaining this. I have been seeing videos about this in my feed lately, and I was so confused that I thought everyone was upset about being sold a fake Colecovision clone. And I was wondering who would even buy that, because the Colecovision wasn't even a great console. The truth makes even less sense. Why would we need a new console with big old cartridges? Even if you wanted that, it would be trivial to just put games on SD cards or something, and have the console load it like a cartridge straight into memory. Has anyone even looked at the 3DS and the Switch to see how small modern cartridges are, or noticed that an SNES cartridge is larger than a modern SSD? It's not hard to design a modern console if you really want to do it. Don't like optical media, or need more portability? No problem, use SD cards. What's the core platform? Assuming you don't get a highly custom solution, you're looking at either a Tegra or some kind of AMD APU. Sure, you could use an Intel platform, but (unless you're planning to focus on simulation and RTS/strategy games) the processor would be overkill and the graphics would be inferior. You create a really simple bootloader for any games that exposes all hardware functionality, cut out a few unneeded features from the hardware, maybe do encryption/anti-piracy stuff, and pretty soon you've got a console that can't do anything but load games off SD cards, or whatever custom flash memory device you want to use instead. The very design of the planned console shows that the people trying to make it had no idea what they were doing, and had no business collecting money from people who didn't know enough about technology to realize what was wrong with the idea.
+The Judge no not really... The N64 and PSX are almost unplayable if you didn't grow up with them, the SNES,NES etc also kinda fall into that category as well.
+The Judge woah I grew up on the PSX calm your titties. But you gotta understand is that you can't give SM64 or MGS to a kid today and expect them to understand how they work. Games have changed a lot since then and quite frankly for the better, oh before you scream OOT shut the fuck up. It has not aged well. Period.
+The Judge lol games have changed for the better m8 2.5 d Mario is better than 16 bit Mario. I'll stop though, I'm taking away your precious retro time.
+The Judge games don't need to be difficult to be fun. I love sunshine, it's probably my favourite Mario game but I genuinely think 3D world was quite good.
Christ, you beaten Jak 2 to 100% completion? No. Like I said, I can still enjoy a game of it isn't difficult. Difficulties is a great way to get me to come back to the game and engaging replay value (although 3D world had neither). That's why SMW holds up so well, I wasn't saying all NES and SNES games hold up badly, just the ones that pushed themselves a bit to far either in the graphics or gameplay department (star fox, cough, cough although the N64 version is much better).
Attacking someone without mentioning their name passive-aggresive style, like you put it here in this video (right before 15 minute mark) is bad, agreed. Yet while saying it you were doing the EXACT same thing to Pat. For fucks sake, get a grip on yourself.
I assume you are no friends with Pat lol :) It was only an off the cuff unscripted part in a podcast... on a topic they had for a long time. I really don't get why people are trying to outburn eachother right now over a silly project where everybody got scammed. Wouldn't it be better to combine forces and burn Mike to the ground, and not John, Pat or whichever bystander.
+rickyrico80 Ya, I didn't see the connection between Pat's rant and John. I thought Pat was attacking the people who were still publicly supporting the project after the Toy Fair fiasco, which I didn't see John do. John even admitted in his video today that he pulled his game after that. However, John's video today attacking Pat at the same time saying he felt sorry for Mike and downplayed it to a mistake... rubbed me the wrong way. I know John is friends with Mile to some degree and probably doesn't see how Mike could be devious. But the 4th fake prototype to trick people into investing their money... that is more than a mere mistake... it is more in line with fraud and he is probably lucky he never received any money. And now Alpha appears to be going after Pat (without saying his name)... this is getting crazy. People need to focus on the matter at hand, and that is why no one should trust Mike and his team to be honest in the process (even if their intentions are good). No one should be attacking John or Pat. Pat was just ranting, I'm sure Alpha has said things in his rants that have caused listeners to make negative comments towards someone else, even someone he didn't mean to. When the VGS/Chameleon project finally does die off, it will be missed... it was entertaining since no-one lost money yet.
+FireMrshlBill The only one that should be chastised is Mike Kennedy. And he is also M.I.A. in all of this trying to think of a new lie to save his idea.
+Mike Hawk I agree, no one should be attacking John, Pat or anyone else. It is stupid to do so. However, no one should be protecting Mike and the VGS/Chameleon team. 4 or more fake prototypes, deleting legit questions from FB, and other actions (like saying Pat's commentary on the VGS issues raised by AtariAge forums was Pat/Ian being uninformed and drunk) has lost Mike all credibility. He can't throw anyone under the bus this time either. They'll come out with another iteration of this project. Maybe a Flashback console in a Jaguar shell... maybe a clock he bought off of eBay...
I'm sorry but if Gamester81 is as much a victim as anyone in this then why did he post this gamester81.tumblr.com/post/139179575782/one-of-the-games-were-working-on-sydney-hunter where he states that one of the games he's working on "is running on and works on" the chameleon prototype? If there was never a working prototype isn't this a flat out lie?
+CyanideRevelations For all we know he was told that and sent the pic by Mike Kennedy, This does not mean he was involved just lied too. Not saying he did or didn't just a thought.
Hey, man. It's all good up to 13:30 but lets keep it real. From then on you are pretty much talking about yourself. So this is pure psychological projection. Where humans repeatedly accuse people of their own unpleasant impulses by attributing them to others. The give away? You always use the same whiney voice when doing impressions of these 'other' imaginary people. Psychology says that voice is really you, as a child. And you are effectively talking to yourself. So perhaps a little self-awareness is in order.
Just a quick glance at the related videos... Pat The NES Punk... someone who I don't even want to really talk about otherwise, is saying that the death of the coleco chameleon is 'sad'? Yea, it's sad that they haven't done any real work.
How appropriate: a console called the Chameleon, that changes names, prototypes, and stories as often as a chameleon changes its colors! I imagine the "VGS" was some reference to the Atari VCS, but that's better known as the 2600 for obvious reasons. Very unfortunate that a side effect of this failed project is this apparent rift between Gamester81 and Pat the NES Punk. I like them both.
I contributed to the Sinclair ZX Vega + Instead of the Chameleon. Originally I was going to because a cartridge based system sounded cool,but then this shit happens . Thanks to Pat the NES Punk and Ian for their CU Podcast otherwise I'd never have found out about the Sinclair to fund a better project.
You contributed to project to sell an underpowered, overpriced Android emulation handheld? Pat and Ian were totally wrong in their analysis of the Vega+, and know nothing of the contempt Spectrum holdings have for fans of the original computer.
i agree, this vapourware-scam is by far the worst project in gaming hardware since the Retron 5, however, i disagree on your stance on CD-i, if the only games you consider from its library are the horrible Nintendo licensed games (the Zelda, Link and Mario games) then i would agree, but the fact is, the best arcade ports of American Laser Games light gun titles came out on CD-i, and they were really good. also, Solar Crusade and Chaos Control are worth checking out if you like light gun games, the Peacekeeper is the absolute best light gun ever developed for a home console. also, some interesting new genres were explored in new ways with CD-i, Burn:Cycle, De Zaak van Sam, L 'affaire Morlov are really good games, each single one justifies owning a CD-i system. but, bottomline is... you are absolutely right, the Colecovision Chameleon is a giant crock o' shite.
+DeltaTheAwsome PSYFrame i will. in a minute, i'm playing some CD-i games right now. it better be none of that hippity-hoppity music though, i can't stand that newfangled city music.
It seems that Coleco has decided to bail out. The head of Retro VGS has left and their facebook page has been deleted. A damn shame really. Retro VGS has severely mis-managed their project and are in complete shambles. * I urge those who read this to briefly look into this matter yourself before making your conclusions as information is subject to change. Though the writing on this is already on the wall the moment they presented their supposed 'prototype.'
Great vid Alpha! and on target as usual, really enjoy your perspective on issues. I have been attacked as well just because I am friends with Mike Kennedy. I have no say in the company or anything but because I am friends with him and was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt (early on, it went out the window after the toy fair and especially that 3rd fauxtotype) I was getting attacked. I am good friends with John and we have been talking about this as well, I am very sad the community is fractured over this fiasco and am largely staying silent online and on my show as I have seen no matter what you do it gets twisted. I dont post much on your vids, but I do really enjoy your content, keep em coming! Alpha the Awesome!
At least having an SNES in a Jaguar shell is better then having an actual Jaguar in the Jaguar shell.
+thecommenter67 Atari jaguar was Awesome it just misunderstood
The RetroKid at least the jaguar had a better DOOM port that actually ported by ID Software.
At least Mike Kennedy didn't try to sell people a purple footbath.
Is the company making this run by that kid who 'built' his own clock?
lol
Hey, that was I pretty well built clock man, it's just it was unfinished, He forgot to attach an IED to it.
Built a clock my ass. He just took a digital clock out of a case and put it in a suitcase. To stir up drama.
+ilovenintendo1999
You just completely missed the joke didn't you?
Thats slander, he's an unregognised genius who built a clock using only a pencil case, duck tape and a clock!
Thank you for defending gamester81. He is indeed one of the nicest people you can ever find in a lifetime and didnt deserve what people are doing with him.
You know, he was fooleed too. No one wants to have his name associated with scam on purpose.
And Rich Even Though I Hated Rich But He Was Spot On
I guess this chameleon....was blending in with shit
Lol
+Cloud 98 I don't know what color bad ideas are but it was that color
+Cloud 98 YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!
+TheFuriousone has mortaly The premise is solid, it's just how they went about it
+AlphaOmegaSin at least it's a solid shit. The best thing going for it...
Pat owes Gamester an apology.
+Julian Taylor 😶
I agree
Agree
yeah pat does owe him shit gamester actually should apologize to pat for all the hate sent his way .When you speak the truth and facts you never ever owe anybody an apology for that shit.If you can't take the backlash for obvious scam you supported then you should get off youtube .That's what happens in reality if you want to be a over sensitive bitch go get PC skewered else.
+Robin Hunt I unsubscribed from John ages ago when all he ever uploaded was videos on crappy clone systems and endorsements for his reseller buddies.
P.P.S. John "Gamester81" Lester is indeed one of the nicest guys on RUclips also, and anything but the scammer type.
Chances are John didn't look deep into this (because he has a real career, wife, kids) and took what he was told at face value.
Because he's the type of dude that trusts people and sadly gets taken advantage of because he's so nice.
I'm seriously appalled at the community for trying to bash him like that.
In fact, I'm disgusted. Shame on anyone who jumped on Gamester81.
Basically he should have been more careful.
A capture card with a shell and controller. How original.
"Using a Jaguar shell is like a Vietnam flashback, no one wants to deal with that shit!"
That line made me subscribe.
It's amazing to me how well alpha can go on a rant and never really trip over his own words. It's like a perfect stream of consciousness with no disconnect to his mouth.
This is true.
I'm sure the guy who kickstarted potato salad could make a better console.
potato salad is fucking delicious.
Exactly pitch forks for the REAL villains!
+HappyConsoleGamer Poke those fucks who made the machine real good
Let's strip them naked and Tarfeathered them!
ReviewTechUSA would have endorsed the Coleco Chameleon if only they had offered him $200.
#neverforgetBC #neverforgive #reviewcourtpaperssoon #justiceforBC
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+Dr. Steve Brule I don't watch RTUSA's videos since last year, they still make fun of him for the $200? that's hilarious
+Dr. Steve Brule Is ReviewTechUSA your new sponser?
+Dr. Steve Brule I'll call you in an hour once you've calmed down, Stevie.
When I was a young teen circa 1982-84, just for shits and giggles, I'd mock up my own "WilkinVision" dream game console/computer out of paper and cardboard.
I'd fashion several plug-in peripherals and modules for it, akin to the add-ons for Coleco's ADAM, or Timex/Sinclair's line of slim, membrane-keyed machines, or even Mattel's promised Intellivision vaporware "expansion". I'd build the works - console, display, deluxe joystick, RAM carts, keyboard, disk/tape drive, mini-printer, all that jazz - and show it to friends and classmates, joking about its ridiculously advanced imaginary specs. "Plays Atari 2600/5200/7800, Odyssey 2, Vectrex, Bally, and all British Columbia fresh fruit!"
34 years later, and the hapless goofs and conscience-free scamlords behind the "VGS RetroMeleon by ColeYoMomma" are pretty much doing the same thing. Their prototypes, to date, have exactly the same original digital guts as my WilkinVision, which is far, far less than zero.
Of course, the difference between my fanciful silliness and their loopy retro dream is that real money is involved and personal reputations are at stake...and the whole matter is turning into the kind of wild tale that folk musicians write blockbuster songs about.
You went full savage mode in this one, and THANK YOU for speaking for Gamester81! I saw his video today and he showed some very shitty tweets, comments and posts he was getting. Very unjustified.
+MyNewSoundtrack Someone needs to stand up and say it
AlphaOmegaSin Yup, and you have the audience + the balls to do it. That's why I'm a huge fan. Keep it up!
Pat didn't attack gamster. he made the statement that anyone who promoted the chameleon should apologize because it was a rip off.
gamster didn't deserve to be crucified over the damn thing though.
alpha being alpha ;)
you guys need to stop fighting over the petty shit. get a beer guys.
+C.J. Jones pat attacked him for his click bait videos. Pat is the scumbag that copy/pasted an entire book from wikipedia, he resells video games at higher prices to earn profit and bitches about everything while having zero life experience. Meanwhile gamester81 makes actual games and acts like an adult
+C.J. Jones its not that he was being crucified, its due to his "apology" video he created, the apologies over on the AA forum and then basically undoing that apology on his own FB account
+C.J. Jones Pat maybe didn't intend to attack Gamester81 directly, but that's how a lot of his fans took it. They started attacking Gamester81's reputation. I agree the whole thing is dumb, but Pat did start it.
Docter Zaius I think it was just a misunderstanding. i feel bad for gamster, but i agree with pat.
Anyone who promoted the console knowing it was "snake oil" should apologize. if gamester doesnt belong to that category than he has no reason to apologize. If anyone is to blame its the fans that acted so rash
C.J. Jones
How can you feel bad for Gamester while agreeing with Pat? If you agree with Pat on everything then you are saying that anyone developing games for it need to apologize because Mike Kennedy lied? That's stupid...
At least they didn't use an actual Atari Jaguar...
They mind as well had my friend
"Them times where everyone wants drama to end along with you but it's far too profitable for some. Even at the cost of friends"
^^^
Alpha, you tweeted this out.
Talking about Pat being Passive Aggressive when that's what you're doing right now too.
Now the whole guilty by association thing I might disagree with Pat with but your statement was kinda below the belt.
How can you claim Pat did the video FOR PROFIT when he's been covering the topic for months and this was the final blow from the whole project. What if I went to FinalBosses and called you and Johnny Sellouts too for covering topics you liked?
I respect all three of you but this anger between you three needs to end.
+Chest Pec Respect pat does every video FOR PROFIT. He has a donation button as the first link under EVERY VIDEO. He seeks out drama and has never had to answer to anyone physically and it shows. He truly is a punk because no normal adult would act like the little bitch he acts like on the regular. He's a 30 year old man child that whines about comic books, video games and people who things with their life.
+Chest Pec Respect
"Them times where everyone wants a shitty console to go away, but it's far too profitable for some. Even at the cost of viewers' respect"
I am appalled with the gaming community for attacking Gamester81 in the way they have. At the same point, Pat is getting WAY too much heat, and he was right to ask those that promoted the system to let the internet know what they know since no one else will speak about it on the Retro VGS team.
I also like you and your content Bill, but you called Pat passive aggressive but then did the same thing right back to him.
This hate and war needs to stop. As someone who likes and enjoys content from all 3 of you guys, you are dividing the community on an issue that there isn't anything to be divided on. I thought the 3 of you were friends, and I think you guys need to all hug it out and apologize to one another.
Don't you just hate it when you're walking down the street and someone throws a fridge at you!
Preach it brother!!!
you'll have to point me to the place where Pat ever mentioned this guy. I've never even heard of him until this
+AwesomeAJ18 he never did. Talk about lynch mob. Pat clearly said anyone defending it after the mini snes/ fake board which im pretty sure @gamester81 never did . but hey lets lynch a guy to prove lynching is wrong.
This was a very informative and very powerful episode, Alpha. I've been going through some shit lately, and the point you made about defending the innocent is something I needed to hear. I posted a post on Tumblr about the same topic on race, religion, and sexuality, expressing a huge "fuck you" to anyone who needlessly attacks people without repercussion to thier actions. My heart goes out to that poor game dev. That's really fucking sad.
It's crashing and burning... horrendously. Good thing I never supported that.
The Hindenburg would be jealous.
+MegamanNG I knew it was going to be bad to be honest. I get that our childhood was great with the amount of NES/SNES games we got, but it seemed like a cash grab, a bad one.
Will we get a coleco chameleon emulator?
Your argument was so explosive that you repaired my dying speakers. Thanks AlphaOmegaSin.
#colecolivesmatter
Good one Eric sama
You needed to post this twice lol
13:34 you deserve unending applauses and standing ovation
PAT the NES Punk has lost my respect when he opened the whole witchhunt against people like Gamester81 and other people who have nothing to do with the Coleco Chameleon's manufacturing.
+Nick The Adequate Gamer i don't recall pat naming gamester as a target. why is he being accused of targeting him?
+Nick The Adequate Gamer true he only talked about people who told people they should back the thing, and endorsed it, that's all.
bbrice714 he didn't name anyone directly but anyone who's been following this whole thing knows who he's talking about.
***** him and his company were making ports for the console. so basically he was supporting the console until he had to back down from it after seeing the new agreement papers he had asked for.
***** and this was like the day before the kickstarter launched, so that was not too recent.
This is the classic we got from this thing! It was so entertaining to watch all these videos!
Alpha I only have one question to ask of you: Where did you learn to fly?
*Bo knows Football and Baseball. Alpha knows Gaming Community*
*Well said*
+RetroR0bbie To be mentioned along with Sega Sports legends! Oh my
A console so bad, even Dan Hibiki can defeat it.
The console is so bad I’d rather shake hitlers hand before I would touch its controller :u
Someone seems to love that House of the Dead Pinball soundtrack.
Never heard of that. damn it doesnt looks terrible anyway, actually worse than OUYA
Thanks AOS for defending John... The guy seems like someone of integrity and sincerity and a definite staple of the gaming community.
Alpha, please talk of all the mass censoring of recent Nintendo published titles in NA and EU (FE: Fates, Bravely Second, Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem, etc.).
The opening is epic. All I hear in my head is *Meanwhile, back in the Gaming Hall of Justice*
1993: The Atari Jaguar shell makes it's debut. January 1996: Atari releases it's final game for the Jaguar as it burns up in flames and dies. During the 2000's: 50% of leftover Atari Jaguar shells are turned into DENTISTRY machines (seriously, look it up) torturing everyone who visits the dentist to the point where they want to burn up in flames and die. 2015: Leftovers of the Jaguar shells are used for the Retro VGS... which burns up in flames and dies. 2016: The Retro VGS is recycled into the the Coleco Chameleon... which burns up in flames and dies. What's next??? Not sure... maybe 2017: Trump comes into presidential power and uses Jaguar shells to build a wall on the border of Canada to keep Americans like me from running into Canada and also uses Jaguar shells to build that wall on the border of Mexico. He also uses multiple Jaguar shells to launch an attack that causes World War 3 and everything burn up in flames and dies... LMAO!!!! But no worries... I have a time machine. I will go back to 1993 to stop the creation of the Jaguar shell... wish me luck!!
This whole situation was just a disaster. Admittedly I was looking forward to this originally. But as the turd rolled down hill, they lost my support.
Avgn should have definitely made a video about this
+Jared Sparks CHECK OUT MY MIXTAPE ITS FUEGO
Genius!!!!!!!!
WHAT A SHITLOAD OF FUCK!!!
Laughin' jokin' numbnuts level of quality.
2:43
Time to start stocking up on popcorn.
Just another kickstarter scam, as for the Jaguar..I got a pre-owned one back in the day with Doom and AVP, I had the system for about a month before I traded it to my friend for an N64 lol :P
+Tsukasa Hiiragi Feel bad for your friend.
Ironically, this is what is feeding the very vocal minority of people who were claiming he was involved. The majority of people simply wanted him to apologize for giving Mike any airtime and to warn his fans since they were the ones being exposed to lies. This is is important so that the chameleon team can't pull this scheme again. You might wonder, "Why apologize?" Because as a businessman and RUclips celebrity what he endorses carries weight. He didn't do his due diligence, but also doubled down by getting overly defensive.
All Gamester needed to do was follow the lead of everyone else involved with this guy (Mike Kennedy) and totally distance himself, instead he's become paranoid and is downplaying the whole thing while trying to simultaneously condemn it which is sending out mixed signals and adding fuel to the fire. Being overly defensive is not helping. Other parties have already gotten a pass because they didn't talk out of both sides of their head and remained calm. John doesn't seem to be able to do this and is taking things way too personally, which is attracting attention instead of remedying the situation.
When you own a business, you have to be ready to cut ties with any partners if they become embroiled in something as serious as attempted fraud. Doesn't he understand that by downplaying this even slightly, he's hurting himself? He apologized, but then backpedaled and started downplaying what is essentially FRAUD because of how freaked out he is about it damaging his reputation. Had he kept quiet after properly distancing himself from the Coleco team, this would have blown over. He's so freaked out about this that he thinks Pat is attacking him. Incredible.
I've always enjoyed watching Gamester81's vids. It's a crying shame that he is getting blamed for this. The man doesn't deserve it.
"It's like having a Vietnam flashback" 😂😂😂
The horrors.... The horrors. xD
Thank you Alpha for telling these morons facts about Gamester81's involvement. Hard to present Reason, Logic, and Common Sense to these psycho puppets.
Always Enjoy watching you Tell the community how it is Alpha keep it up man
I don't know why I was thinking of it a Super Nintendo but that was the first thing that popped into my head when you asked what i thought was inside. I honestly didn't expect that to be true I mean seriously? Wow this is horrible. xD
I'm glad you put this out there
I love watching this fucking guy.
+Fredrick Lucero I love watching this guy fucking
+Cascascap Please provide sources for the above statement.
I know this is a week late and you'll probably never read it, but thank you for sticking up for John. I've been watching him on and off for a few years. He always seemed like just a nice guy who loved games and appreciated the history of them. It's a shame that he has been crucified like this. The gamer community has just become toxic. Rich from Review tech was talking about that Anita woman quitting gaming series. I'm glad he brought up the fact that she has made it difficult for female gamers to express their opinions and making the culture worse for us. Now, it looks like these assholes are just going after anyone because of a mob mentality. I'll continue to play the games I enjoy. I've been a gamer since I was eight years old and these idiots are not gamers. They are annoying poseurs.
About Gamester81, I think a lot of it isn't so much an SJW-style lynch mob, but rather the assumption that he was in on it. It did appear at first as though he were closer to the development than perhaps he was. In many ways, G81 is a victim of Mike Kennedy's con, because he was pretty eager to sell the system.
HOPEFULLY his game will still come out OK, and I'll certainly look at it if it shows up on SNES or Genesis, but I honestly hope the end result of this whole fucking episode is that everyone looks at people preying on the nostalgic and the hipster with a bit more skepticism. Many people - and yes, this includes G81 - were far too willing to cheer this thing on in the very beginning, before the AtariAge forum started poking holes in it. People need to be more skeptical of things on the internet.
Notice how I said SKEPTICAL and not CYNICAL. There's another tendency in the gaming community to assume everything is horrible in gaming, when really, incidents like this are the exception far more than the rule. I really hope this whole thing doesn't damage bunnyboy's Nintendo AVS.
Been waiting for your rant!
Of course this is during me playing Twilight Princess HD. And of course I have to watch now because you're fucking awesome.
+Dirty Dan That sucks. I can relate. Btw love the username.
+Dirty Dan Sure thing.
I will say, I love that you stuck up for Gamester 81.
I've gotta agree on this. Going after Gamester81 when he had nothing to do with this just just messed up and not cool at all.
HE NEVER FUCKING WENT AFTER HIM. Quit crying and watch Pats video.... He never mentions him. Grow a pair and shut up.
Not to mention that I never mentioned this "Pat" guy or anybody, and was just saying that it was a dick move for people to be going after Gamester81. Which, is something that HAS happened if you go off a video of his about it.
+Fin Kaiser looks like the 12 year old white knight fake pat fans are here
On 9:33-9:43 had some of the best dialogue in this video. Keep up the good vids AlphaOmegaSin.
fuk the internet strikes again. Ive been a subscriber and fan of gamester for years. he does not deserve this. hopefully some good will come of this and gamester will gain a bunch of new fans off the back of this bs.
"You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?"
even Chinese Knockoffs are better quality than this thing lol
+HackerHaunter03 Yeah remember the WiiWii? LOL!
Super Mastodon or the other one that was a combination of a PS4 and Xbox One that had Android OS lol
*****
Also ask a girl out "hey wanna play with my WiiWii?" ;)
Super Mastodon Wii want to play WiiWii with U.
I guess it's living up to its name after all seen as tho it's quickly disappearing in to the background.
Im not taking any sides here but for one Pat never once mentioned gamester81, or even alluded to the fact he was talking about him. He named names, websites, people associated with the project, none of which were G81. If you *actually* fucking listen he went on to say that anybody still shilling for the CC AFTER the NY toyfair debacle should apologize. Now to my knowledge G81 was NOT promoting the Chameleon after the toyfair incident, and like he said in the video he was caught off guard and pulled support for the system.
Now unfortunately G81 was working on porting over a pack in game for the console, so the very vocal minority made a wrong assumption and yes some people got on G81 for his perceived involvement with the CC without actually knowing the facts of the matter. These people were of course in the wrong but they came to that conclusion on their own, because again Pat never mentioned G81 nor did anything he said really apply to G81... Some people are saying G81 made the video because of a guilty conscience, well no he made the video because people were accusing him of something that wasnt true, so he did it to clear the air and put his side of the story out there. The video was mostly fine but he went wrong in a few places...
1. He was still after everything essentially defending Mike Kennedy and the Chameleon with a "what if" defense, well sorry after 3 failed attempts at fooling your would be customers there is no "what if" anymore. Mike Kennedy is a pathological liar and would say or do anything to re-cooperate the money he blew on the Jaguar tooling. What he did at the NY toyfair, and with the DVR card is considered attempted fraud. If he had his way they would be running a kickstarter campaign as we speak taking money from unsuspecting customers/investors. If only it wasnt for atariage and that pesky dog...
2. He took offense where there was none. Again Pat never mentioned him by name nor did he imply he was talking about G81. People assumed based on his involvement with porting a game for the console that he had something to do with it and that was wrong, but that's also not on Pat... Watch G81's video he says that he was lied to, he never signed any paperwork, and that he pulled support for the console the day before the kickstarter (after ny toyfair). Now if i'm G81, co-owner of Collectorvision games and all of this is happening around this project that i am closely associated with, the absolute FIRST thing i would do is make a public statement on the matter, and distance myself from it at all cost to protect my company's image and my reputation. Otherwise staying silent looks 100% suspect, and i know he said he didn't want to stir shit up but as somebody directly associated with the project, and co-owner of a company working on a game for the console he or his company really should have addressed this in a video or even a press release.
A quick explanation would have avoided all of this bullshit, a simple "While we were initially excited about the potential of the chameleon, it turns out the project isn't what we thought and so we are officially pulling our support for the Chameleon"... No need to be negative, no need to throw anybody under the bus, but unfortunately G81 is a nice guy, and he let his personal relationship with Mike cloud his judgement on the issue. All of the writing was on the wall, but he figured he would kind of play it neutral and see what happens, well that was clearly the wrong move. No offense to you Alpha because i like your channel but you're literally doing the same thing to Pat that you criticized him for, you are using your platform to pick sides rather than actually clear the air. John has no bad blood with Pat, a quick look at his twitter shows that he wants to move on and he even says in his video that he hopes Pat can still come down to for the expo and not let this come between them. Stop stirring shit that isn't there because you are making yourself part of the problem sending your 444k subscribers after him, and really being a monumental hypocrite in the process. I stand by both Pat and John in this matter, and firmly against Mike Kennedy and the Coleco Chameleon or whatever the hell they are calling it this week.
+Eric Israel I agree 100%.
+Eric Israel "Pat never once mentioned gamester81"Umm...Alpha never once mentioned Pat either.
+Know Won He didnt need to this was a reaction to a reaction and the whole "team gamester81" makes it clear who he is talking about.
This is the first time I've heard about this since it was first announced... I was really looking forward to seeing a modern cartridge-based console on store shelves. It's too bad that the people behind it are making that idea less of a reality, not only for themselves but also for similar ideas in the future.
worst gaming fuck up ever eh?
Oh yeah?
....Ouya?
+Quasiguambo CHECK OUT MY MIXTAPE ITS FUEGO
+Quasiguambo Ouya? .... Oh No!!!
If anything, just the chosen controller should be an indicator of quality.
I went through THREE of those SNES looking WiiU pads.
First one, the D-Pad was busted. I'd press down and it's as if the down button had turbo on!
Exchanged it. Had one for a while. Kid nephew broke the USB charge port. Took the thing apart, and the way the port was connected, it wasn't surprising it snapped!
Got a 3rd one from a buddy.....Stopped taking a charge after a few weeks...Good job lads.
Gosh, it's like they were inspired by Ahmed the Clockboy's inventing method. :/
Hahaha!
Unlike the Incellivision Scamico, Mike Kennedy s Coleco Chameleon carts were shown to work before being sold.
AlphaOmega i got something for you to rage about, SHADOW MOSES fan made remake has been canceled because of.....you guessed it, Konami.
+Chris Alvarez let YongYea cover this one, i wanna hear his rant first lol
Surprise, surprise.
+Chris Alvarez Why is this not surprising,Konami's gone straight to hell.
+HackerHaunter03 You watch YonYea too?
Nice
+Chris Alvarez so what would happen if they went underground, continued development, and then released it? how would konami really stop them?
I honestly thought the Coleco Chameleon wasn't that big in terms of gamers knowing about it. I've been following the story from Pat the NES punk. Glad to hear people actually know what a shit storm it really is.
What saddens me though, is that I didn't know that people were catching major flak for developing games for it. Like really?! ... Wow... Well thanks for shedding light on the situation @AlphaOmegaSin I had no idea...
This is fucked up shit.
Alpha best youtuber keep up the great work.
+omegazio Thanks man :D
AlphaOmegaSin You're Welcome Alpha ^.^
Thanks for explaining this. I have been seeing videos about this in my feed lately, and I was so confused that I thought everyone was upset about being sold a fake Colecovision clone. And I was wondering who would even buy that, because the Colecovision wasn't even a great console. The truth makes even less sense. Why would we need a new console with big old cartridges? Even if you wanted that, it would be trivial to just put games on SD cards or something, and have the console load it like a cartridge straight into memory. Has anyone even looked at the 3DS and the Switch to see how small modern cartridges are, or noticed that an SNES cartridge is larger than a modern SSD?
It's not hard to design a modern console if you really want to do it. Don't like optical media, or need more portability? No problem, use SD cards. What's the core platform? Assuming you don't get a highly custom solution, you're looking at either a Tegra or some kind of AMD APU. Sure, you could use an Intel platform, but (unless you're planning to focus on simulation and RTS/strategy games) the processor would be overkill and the graphics would be inferior. You create a really simple bootloader for any games that exposes all hardware functionality, cut out a few unneeded features from the hardware, maybe do encryption/anti-piracy stuff, and pretty soon you've got a console that can't do anything but load games off SD cards, or whatever custom flash memory device you want to use instead.
The very design of the planned console shows that the people trying to make it had no idea what they were doing, and had no business collecting money from people who didn't know enough about technology to realize what was wrong with the idea.
Lol.... It's hilarious. See children? This is what happens when you hail all retro games as God.
+The Judge no not really... The N64 and PSX are almost unplayable if you didn't grow up with them, the SNES,NES etc also kinda fall into that category as well.
+The Judge woah I grew up on the PSX calm your titties. But you gotta understand is that you can't give SM64 or MGS to a kid today and expect them to understand how they work. Games have changed a lot since then and quite frankly for the better, oh before you scream OOT shut the fuck up. It has not aged well. Period.
+The Judge lol games have changed for the better m8 2.5 d Mario is better than 16 bit Mario. I'll stop though, I'm taking away your precious retro time.
+The Judge games don't need to be difficult to be fun. I love sunshine, it's probably my favourite Mario game but I genuinely think 3D world was quite good.
Christ, you beaten Jak 2 to 100% completion? No. Like I said, I can still enjoy a game of it isn't difficult. Difficulties is a great way to get me to come back to the game and engaging replay value (although 3D world had neither). That's why SMW holds up so well, I wasn't saying all NES and SNES games hold up badly, just the ones that pushed themselves a bit to far either in the graphics or gameplay department (star fox, cough, cough although the N64 version is much better).
This Coleco Chameleon appears to be the Sonichu of video game consoles.
Attacking someone without mentioning their name passive-aggresive style, like you put it here in this video (right before 15 minute mark) is bad, agreed. Yet while saying it you were doing the EXACT same thing to Pat. For fucks sake, get a grip on yourself.
This was a fun soundtrack to listen to while I was cleaning and re-organizing my Sega Genesis games.
I was waiting for Alpha to spew words of video game wisdom about this, tear 'em a second asshole Alpha
Alpha, words cannot describe how much I love your words in this video. You speak so much truth.
I assume you are no friends with Pat lol :) It was only an off the cuff unscripted part in a podcast... on a topic they had for a long time. I really don't get why people are trying to outburn eachother right now over a silly project where everybody got scammed. Wouldn't it be better to combine forces and burn Mike to the ground, and not John, Pat or whichever bystander.
+rickyrico80 Ya, I didn't see the connection between Pat's rant and John. I thought Pat was attacking the people who were still publicly supporting the project after the Toy Fair fiasco, which I didn't see John do. John even admitted in his video today that he pulled his game after that.
However, John's video today attacking Pat at the same time saying he felt sorry for Mike and downplayed it to a mistake... rubbed me the wrong way. I know John is friends with Mile to some degree and probably doesn't see how Mike could be devious. But the 4th fake prototype to trick people into investing their money... that is more than a mere mistake... it is more in line with fraud and he is probably lucky he never received any money.
And now Alpha appears to be going after Pat (without saying his name)... this is getting crazy. People need to focus on the matter at hand, and that is why no one should trust Mike and his team to be honest in the process (even if their intentions are good). No one should be attacking John or Pat. Pat was just ranting, I'm sure Alpha has said things in his rants that have caused listeners to make negative comments towards someone else, even someone he didn't mean to.
When the VGS/Chameleon project finally does die off, it will be missed... it was entertaining since no-one lost money yet.
+FireMrshlBill The only one that should be chastised is Mike Kennedy. And he is also M.I.A. in all of this trying to think of a new lie to save his idea.
+Mike Hawk I agree, no one should be attacking John, Pat or anyone else. It is stupid to do so.
However, no one should be protecting Mike and the VGS/Chameleon team. 4 or more fake prototypes, deleting legit questions from FB, and other actions (like saying Pat's commentary on the VGS issues raised by AtariAge forums was Pat/Ian being uninformed and drunk) has lost Mike all credibility. He can't throw anyone under the bus this time either.
They'll come out with another iteration of this project. Maybe a Flashback console in a Jaguar shell... maybe a clock he bought off of eBay...
Man o man your collection is looking SICK! good vid aos!
I'm sorry but if Gamester81 is as much a victim as anyone in this then why did he post this gamester81.tumblr.com/post/139179575782/one-of-the-games-were-working-on-sydney-hunter where he states that one of the games he's working on "is running on and works on" the chameleon prototype? If there was never a working prototype isn't this a flat out lie?
+CyanideRevelations Interesting, and the plot thickens
+CyanideRevelations For all we know he was told that and sent the pic by Mike Kennedy, This does not mean he was involved just lied too. Not saying he did or didn't just a thought.
their damage controll was like them trying to fight a forest fire with a garden hose...it just didn't work
Hey, man. It's all good up to 13:30 but lets keep it real. From then on you are pretty much talking about yourself. So this is pure psychological projection. Where humans repeatedly accuse people of their own unpleasant impulses by attributing them to others. The give away? You always use the same whiney voice when doing impressions of these 'other' imaginary people. Psychology says that voice is really you, as a child. And you are effectively talking to yourself. So perhaps a little self-awareness is in order.
+Sturmwind LOL at the amateur psychology attempt, too funny. "Psychology says.." lmao. Tell me about your mother.
+Sturmwind What do you mean?
Looks like someone's depressed they didn't get their chamelion.
Welp this is the dumbest shit I've seen today.
+I am vodbox. You ride the Alpha D hard.
I'll always remember the CDI with it's goofy cutscenes which created RUclips Poops.
Where they Smoke, they pinch back - CDI Mario
Gamester81 was sitting with his best buddy, Mike Kennedy, and complaining about all the "haters that was gonna hate"
no one cares m8
Am I the only one missing those Heavy Metal intros?
+triedge763 i hated them
Nintendo sits back on the Iron Throne. "Lawyers! Go forth!"
Why is your profile picture of a child's nightmare?
+Beauweir CHECK OUT MY MIXTAPE ITS FUEGO
Alpha you need to do an updated room tour!
+Horzzo I am very ovedue for one
Sony: Go home Coleco. You're too old to make a console now.
Nintendo: HEY! your using OUR hardware! we are going to sue you coleco
Microsoft: oh look a waffle maker! I love waffles!
Steam(or PC gamers): Look at those console peasants with physical games (it's a joke)
Sega: I thought I was the laughing Stalk.
EA: and I thought we did bullshit things to people. guess I was wrong
I love how Catherine is still in the front visible :d
I started watching you a few months before you got that box
+HMZOX92 It's a nice limited edition truthfully
Just a quick glance at the related videos... Pat The NES Punk... someone who I don't even want to really talk about otherwise, is saying that the death of the coleco chameleon is 'sad'? Yea, it's sad that they haven't done any real work.
I almost expected him to go "Alpha SMASH!" at any point during this.
Angry Alpha is scary.
OMG THE VIETNAM FLASHBACK MEME XDD GOOD JOB ALPHA
+ILikeFoxes I think it was pretty accurate
How appropriate: a console called the Chameleon, that changes names, prototypes, and stories as often as a chameleon changes its colors! I imagine the "VGS" was some reference to the Atari VCS, but that's better known as the 2600 for obvious reasons.
Very unfortunate that a side effect of this failed project is this apparent rift between Gamester81 and Pat the NES Punk. I like them both.
"Once known as the Retro VGS now as the Coleco Chameleon it just a gaming failure." It just a failure. Best description.
I contributed to the Sinclair ZX Vega + Instead of the Chameleon. Originally I was going to because a cartridge based system sounded cool,but then this shit happens . Thanks to Pat the NES Punk and Ian for their CU Podcast otherwise I'd never have found out about the Sinclair to fund a better project.
You contributed to project to sell an underpowered, overpriced Android emulation handheld? Pat and Ian were totally wrong in their analysis of the Vega+, and know nothing of the contempt Spectrum holdings have for fans of the original computer.
i agree, this vapourware-scam is by far the worst project in gaming hardware since the Retron 5,
however, i disagree on your stance on CD-i,
if the only games you consider from its library are the horrible Nintendo licensed games (the Zelda, Link and Mario games) then i would agree,
but the fact is, the best arcade ports of American Laser Games light gun titles came out on CD-i, and they were really good.
also, Solar Crusade and Chaos Control are worth checking out if you like light gun games, the Peacekeeper is the absolute best light gun ever developed for a home console.
also, some interesting new genres were explored in new ways with CD-i,
Burn:Cycle, De Zaak van Sam, L 'affaire Morlov are really good games, each single one justifies owning a CD-i system.
but, bottomline is...
you are absolutely right, the Colecovision Chameleon is a giant crock o' shite.
+Glitter Jugend CHECK OUT MY MIXTAPE ITS FUEGO
+DeltaTheAwsome PSYFrame
i will.
in a minute,
i'm playing some CD-i games right now.
it better be none of that hippity-hoppity music though, i can't stand that newfangled city music.
Your best video so far. I'm laughing through tears.
It seems that Coleco has decided to bail out. The head of Retro VGS has left and their facebook page has been deleted. A damn shame really. Retro VGS has severely mis-managed their project and are in complete shambles.
* I urge those who read this to briefly look into this matter yourself before making your conclusions as information is subject to change. Though the writing on this is already on the wall the moment they presented their supposed 'prototype.'
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Holy crap. Someone else remembered the phantom ? Awesome
Great vid Alpha! and on target as usual, really enjoy your perspective on issues. I have been attacked as well just because I am friends with Mike Kennedy. I have no say in the company or anything but because I am friends with him and was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt (early on, it went out the window after the toy fair and especially that 3rd fauxtotype) I was getting attacked. I am good friends with John and we have been talking about this as well, I am very sad the community is fractured over this fiasco and am largely staying silent online and on my show as I have seen no matter what you do it gets twisted. I dont post much on your vids, but I do really enjoy your content, keep em coming! Alpha the Awesome!