We Tamilians blaming this person. First we have to blame ourself for not taking any effort to protect architecture or not taking any interest in doing research on Tamil.
Tamilans are not promoting tamil that is a true fact ...even neighbouring states domt mnow to read tamil ...there should be an option beetween tamil or hindi as thrid language for south indians
Hey, summerian, hebrew and way older than tamil. Tamil is not the first language mind it. Tamil is oldest living language.. their is huge difference, if u want to debate more people used painting and sign language during olden times (it was a language during that time) which we still use. Even tholkappiyam script was written in 350 bce summerian script:3500 bce before that unknown tribal language with rare evidence before that paintings in the walls before that we didn't even communicate. If u think oldest is the best then what u say about this.
As a tamilian, I apologize you had to go through those hateful comments for the previous video. The greatness of a self is accepting the facts. It is impossible that one language existed before all. It's good enough to know that Tamil is one of oldest and surviving language. Thank you for making the effort to educate everyone. ❤️ Thanks mate !
Every language is great they make us communicate with each other and help us to spread any kind of message very easily but I've seen tamil people as the most arrogant and divided people on the basis of language, they are basically going against the meaning of langauge
I agree. Evidence found that Tamil is more than 5000 years old! but Tamil is not the first language of humans, it's one of the oldest language still exists!
Tamil is the oldest language of the world. U guys better accept the reality. It was a language which was created by lord shiva himself and there for its atleast 20000 years old. Its just the beginning of the research. Everyone will get to know the truth soon
@SIDDHAARTH MANIAN it's ok bro. But whatever u want to convey , do it in a nice manner instead of a provoking manner. Don't use these words dream world and fakely proud and all these things. Although I believe strongly that tamil is the oldest language, but even if its not true , then also we will feel equally proud as it will still be one of the oldest and richest languages of the world.And still tamil has high chances of being the oldest language and it's even officially declared too. Since these languages r way older than us , so we really don't know what's the truth. So I think we should just say our opinions and stop there instead of using words like these. Hope u understand
@SIDDHAARTH MANIANTamil has no relation with brahmi, since it was found equal or before the brahmi, it was said to be Tamil brahmi. You can derive the terms but everything is found in Tamil land.
@SIDDHAARTH MANIAN If you see the adichanallur and keezadi scripts, those are tamil scripts which is found before 300 BC and 1000 BC. The term brahmi was given to script after emperor ashoka.
தமிழ் எங்கள் மூச்சு Means Tamil Is Life Of Us Tamil Is Emotion Tamil Is Culture Tamil Is My Soul Hindu Is Only A Religion I Love Tamil More Than Hindu And Other Region We Are Not Migrants Or Anything We Are The Ansestors ஆங்கிலம் ஒரு மொழி English Is A Language
You stupid Tamil language is itself created by a Hindu God lord muruga and the language of God is sanskrit so both Tamil and sanskrit are oldest language
Tamil is not just a language it's a culture. It does not matter how old it is and I strongly believe ancient Tamil people were more advance than us. Because of the political issues the greatness is not getting exposed to the world as we are speaking of ancient Egyptian civilization and their technologies.
It is 100% person true tamil is not a language but a culture..... So is every language. Telugu is culture, gujarati is a culture, marati is a culture and bengali aswell..... Now if you believe there where ancient people talking your language..... Sorry to say ancient tamilians didnt exist at all. And since there is no ancient tamils there is no advanced ancient people. But by mentioning tamil you are mentioning ancient protodravidian language people, then such an ancient civilization existed but they were very inferior to present day people and technology.
Well, 90% of Tamilians become Fanatic for their Language.. They Go yo Extreme Extent to Hate each and Every Independent Researcher to who will be Doing PHD, Years of Research everything only to Hated by TAMIZANs that if Tamilians Can't Accept TAMIL is not THE OLDEST*** language, But One of the OLDEST LANGUAGE of the world. *
Some similar origin Tamil words are in English. 1)PATH - PADHAI 2)KILL-KOLL 3)NAVY-NAVAI 4)SUDDEN-UDAN 5)CULTURE - KALACHARAM 6)SPONGE - PANJU 7)ATTACK - THAKKU 8)KERF - KARUVI 9)VERSE - VARISAI 10)LABOUR - ULAVAR 11)GREEN - KEERAI 12)EVIL - AEVAL 13)PADDY - PAATHTHI 14)VIA - VAZHIYE 15)COOL - KULIR 16)PASTE - PASAI 17)BOTTLE - PUTTIL 18)CASH - KAASU 19)SPEECH - PECHU 20)INN - ILL 21)TOWEL - THUVATTAL 22)BED - PADU 23)PUT - PODU 24)CATAMARAN - KATUMARAM 25)BUSH - PUL 26)WAY - VAZHI 27)CORN - KURUNAI 28)WIDE - VIDIYA 29)TOWEL - THUVAI 30)FADE - VAADU 31)PLUS - PALA 32)PLURAL - PAL 33)POLY - PALVERU 34)BIRTH - PIRATHAL 35)ROUND - URUNDAI 36)SQUARE - SADHURAM 37)MANGO - MANGA 38)GAUVA - KOYYA 39)ONE - ONDRU 40)EIGHT - ETTU 41)VICTORY - VETTRI 42)WIN - VEL 43)WAGON - VAAKANAM 44)ELACHI - ELLAKI 45)COIR - KAYIRU 46)EVE - AVVAI 47)CALENDAR - KALANDHARAM 48)TERRA - THARAI 49)METRE - MAATHIRAI 50)NAME - NAAMAM 51)VOMIT - OMATTU 52)SCRIPT - KURIPPU 53)SPEED - PEEDU 54)SNAKE - NAAKAM 55)MAKE - AAKKAM 56)LEMON - ILAMANJALKAI 57)ROLL - URUL 58)ORATE - URAI 59)KNOWLEDGE - GNAANAM 60)GINGER - INJI 61)MOLECULE - MOOLAKKOORU 62)PRIZE - PARISU 63)OTHER - ITHARA 64)TELE - THOLAI 65)TEAK - THAEKKU 66)RICE - ARISI 67)AQUA - AKKAM 68)VANAM - VIDAM 69)MEGA - MIKA 70)ACCEPT - ISAIPPADU 71)MATURE - MUTHIR 72)GOAT - KADAA 73)PAIN - PINI 74)YARN - GNYAAN 75)TORQUE - THIRUGI 76)LEVEL - ALAVU 77)MAD - MADAMAI 78)SURROUND - SUTTRAM 79)GOD - KADAVUL 80)CAPTURE - KAIPPATRU 81)WANT - VENDI 82)PLOUGH - UZHAVU 83)ADAMANT - ADAM 84)FAULT - PAZHUTHU 85)SHRINK - SURUNGU 86)VILLA - ILLAM 87)COT - KATTIL 88)NERVE - NARAMBU 89)GRAIN - KURUNAI 90)BUTTON - POTHAAN 91)ANICUT - ANAIKATTU 92)ANACONDA - AANAIKONDRAN 93)CANDY - KANDU 94)CORUNDAM - KURUNDHAM 95)COPRA - KOPPURAI 96)MULLIGATAWNY - MELAGUTHANI 97)CONGEE - KANJE 98)PATCHOULI - PATCHILLAI 99)MORINGA - MURUNGAI 100)PANDAL - PANDHAL 101)VETIVER - VETIVER 102)CULVERT - KALVETTU 103)COOLIE - KOOLI 104) PAGODA - PAGAVADI 105)CURRY - CURRY 106)CHETTAH - CHIRATHAI 107)CHEROOT - SURUTU 108)PETTY - PETTI 109)VEIN - VEEN 110)WELCOME - VANNAKAM 111)CLAY - KALI 112)CRY - KARAI 113)BLARE - PILIRU 114)JACK FRUIT - SAKKAI PALAM 115)MEGA - MIGA 116)CULPRIT - KALLAM 117)BETROTHAL - PETROR OTHAL Tamils are proud of Tamil as they can say that it is our mother tongue obsession but a native English speaker [Walter William Skeet] has recorded this so much as a linguist.W.W Skeat in the Etymological dictionary of the English language noted that 12,960 words out of 14286 came from Tamil. ruclips.net/video/cAeLh-seSK8/видео.html Some similar tamil and korean words and their meanings: Naal - Day Naan - me Nee - you Ulla va - come inside Pul - grass Paampu (bam) - snake Vaa - come Amma - mother Appa - Father Aariro(ஆராரோ)Thalatu - Lullaby for baby (Similar to Aarirang song in Korean) Akkachi - elder sister (southern slang) Ammani - Calling a girl with respect (coimbatore slang) like ommoni in korean Aiyo - Aigu Sandai - Fight Yean - why Anni - sister in law Athae - that's it (or ) yes in tamil Thae or dhae is yes in korean I guess... Arivom - To know (similar to aaro in korean) Ingu - here, Ithu - This (in korean igu means this ) Aay - child (in olden tamil Eg : Most of tamil goddesses have 'aay' in ending like Maariaayi (goddess of rain)) Pun - sore /wound Kattayam - must do Manam - Mind (mauem) Pal - teeth (ippal) In tamil we cry like "appa" when got a wound or feel a pain Konjam konjam - a little (like joguem joguem in korean) Tamil has more connections with other languages also like Japan and tamil has similarities with grammar,similar with cameroonian and Australian aboriginal language, Mayan language, English has many etymological backgrounds with tamil... Eg : Pyramid - பெரும் இடு (big graveyard) Anaconda - ஆனை கொன்றான் (elephant killer) Candy - கண்டு (கற்கண்டு) Molecule - மூலக்கூறு Button - பொத்தான் (பொத்தி வைப்பதால்) Kanyakumari is once called as Ayuta Which is a district Of Tamil Nadu, located Southern most end of India .which was once ruled by a king under Pandiya daynasity who were the strongest rulers of Tamil Nadu and spreaded all over the world as well, The ruler who roled Kanyakumari under Pandiya dynasty Married her daughter Princess of Kanyakumari to the Prince from Korea, There are still some historical witness that a princess from Ayuta has a brown skin tone and came by a ship flagged with a fish emblem on it (which was the symbol of Pandiyas) and packed with wealth and golds and servents to serve on the way, Still now some Hindu gods are worshipped by Peoples of Korea... thought the title was with the other people officially At least I'm happy still some Tamil family and Korean relatives Still recognise the bonding. ruclips.net/video/TKTxd2icycA/видео.htmlsi=bcDSvOdnZsMDoR6z
Every language is spoken to express oneself and I am a tamilian. And my language is my identity. So if it is old or not it doesn't matter I respect all languages what I speak. And I am proud of my tamil culture which taught me how to respect others.
Being a Tamilan I would say the fact is sanskrit is the language spoken by God and tamil is the oldest language spoken on earth even Tamil scholars like kamban who wrote many Tamil literature has mixed Tamil and sanskrit words
He didn't even say it was the mother of all language🤦♂️.. Are you even listening or you are not capable of understanding anything other than tamil. There is no scientific proof , keep believing fiction
@SIDDHAARTH MANIAN ha ha not only you all the telugu people r jealous about tamil and tamilians 😂 .....What u said is completely wrong telugu is better than tamil ah 🥵🤧.....u speaking sarcasm right 😂....tamil is far far better than telugu.....it is spoken in many countries ....in usa only telugu is mostly spoken than tamil.....u people only know to troll tamil people 😂😂😂 jealousy telugites.... 😂 I have seen many telugu people's comments in RUclips most of them are degrading tamil, tamil nadu and tamil people because they can't accept that tamil Is far better than telugu 😂.... Foreigners also willing to learn tamil only not Telugu.....I'm not a telugu people hater but many people's r degrading tamil people in comments so I can't be calm anymore....so that's why I commented this .......sorry if u hurted by this comment ❤️
@SIDDHAARTH MANIAN Ha ha nice joke 😂😂.....Many foreign people came to tamil nadu at the time......and many dedicated their life to tamil ok vaa....don't say that nobody know tamil at the time 😂😂
@SIDDHAARTH MANIAN at 16th century ah 😂😂😂😂 before 16th century itself many foreigners came here and learned tamil and dedicated their lives ❤️.....Many foreigners wiling to learn tamil only not Telugu 😂😂😂😂Many of them don't know telugu 😂
Keeladi excavation will. Never be completed other wise Tamil dravadian politic on dravadian and Aryan will collapsed which is bread and butter for lot of people in tamilnadu....... And if Keeladi civilsation is found to be more older then harrapa civilization....... You people will have no face to show to so called aryan.😂😂😂😂
Mr.polyglot copy the text I typed in Tamil in google translate: நீங்கள் தமிழ் அல்ல, உங்கள் மொழி தமிழ் அல்ல. ஆனால் உங்கள் மொழியின் தாய் தமிழ். இப்போது இதைச் சொல்லுங்கள், தமிழ் எப்போதும் பரந்த உலகின் பழமையான மொழியாக இருக்கும். அது உருவாக்கப்பட்ட முதல் மொழி. அழகான அர்த்தங்கள் கொண்ட அழகான எழுத்துக்கள், சொற்கள் மற்றும் சொற்றொடர்கள் இதில் உள்ளன. நீங்கள் பொறாமைப்படக்கூடாது. உங்கள் சொந்த தாய்மொழியில் பேசுவதற்கு தமிழ்தான் காரணம் என்று நீங்கள் பெருமைப்பட வேண்டும். அதன் உண்மை. நீங்கள் ஏன் பொறாமைப்பட வேண்டும். பொறாமைப்படுவது உங்களுக்கு நன்மை பயக்கிறதா? சொல்லுங்கள், தமிழ் ஒரு பண்டைய மொழி இல்லை என்பதற்கு உங்கள் ஆதாரம் எங்கே? தமிழ் ஒரு பண்டைய மொழி அல்ல என்பதை எனக்கு நிரூபிக்க நீங்கள் ஒரு விஞ்ஞானியா அல்லது கட்டிடக் கலைஞரா? நீங்கள் பன்மொழி மட்டுமே. பன்மொழி பல மொழிகளைப் பேசுகிறது, ஆனால் ஒரு பன்மொழி அதன் தோற்றம் அல்லது வரலாற்றை அறியவில்லை. அதை நீங்கள் எனக்கு எப்படி நிரூபிக்கப் போகிறீர்கள்? உங்களால் முடியாது. ஏனென்றால் சில ஆப்பிரிக்க நாடுகளைப் போன்ற பல்வேறு நாடுகளில் தமிழ் தெளிவாகத் தெரியும். இது உங்கள் மொழியிலும் உள்ளது. உங்கள் மொழியில் சில சொற்களில் தமிழ் சொற்களும் உள்ளன. நீங்கள் ஏன் நம்மீது இத்தகைய வெறுப்பைக் காட்ட வேண்டும்? தமிழ் ஒரு பண்டைய மொழி என்றும் நீங்கள் விரும்பினாலும் விரும்பாவிட்டாலும் அதுதான் உண்மை என்றும் நம்புங்கள். உண்மையை ஒருபோதும் மறைக்கக் கூடாது, அதை வெளிப்படுத்த வேண்டும், விஞ்ஞானிகள் கண்டுபிடித்து அறிவித்ததில் நான் மகிழ்ச்சியடைகிறேன். நான் இதை தமிழில் தட்டச்சு செய்கிறேன், ஏனென்றால் நான் எழுதியதை மற்ற தமிழ் மக்கள் தெரிந்து கொள்ள வேண்டும். நான் கடுமையாக இருந்தால் என்னை மன்னியுங்கள். ஆனால் நான் அதை மக்களுக்கு விழிப்புணர்வு ஏற்படுத்த விரும்புகிறேன். மக்கள் உண்மையை மறைக்க நான் விரும்பவில்லை. எனது அறிவை மக்களுடன் பகிர்ந்து கொள்ள விரும்புகிறேன். அதனால்தான் நான் கருத்து தெரிவித்தேன்.
All letters has special phenotypes, meaning it can be spoken with using chest or stomach, it can be spoke just in mouth itself... That keeps it extremely different and unique
Some Cal derived Tamil words are: Cal: Stone, Cal: Learn (from first writings on stone), Calvi: Education (Edu = book/print matter; + ccu = for; + asan = teacher). The word ‘asan’ itself can be brought down to root words (Asu = knowledge; + an = person; becoming asan = knowledge person). Also, Ca(l)tpi: Teach (the 1st thing human learned how to use was the stone). They used stones for calculations in early times, and so it became ‘calculate’ and a bunch of stones is ‘Calcuvial’ (became Calculus)! These sort of evaluations can be found in every Tamil word and its root. So in Tamil, all these words ( Learn, Education, Teach, and Teacher) must be stone-age words! Thank you for reading :).
The first known written record of tamil was a grammar book named tholkaapiyam written by tholkkapiyar, it refers how to form ezhuthu(letters), sol(words), porul(subject matter). The author also mentions many grammar books and authors who have existed before him. If a language started to write a grammar for its own language during olden times then it should be existed minimum 1000 years before writing that book. The grammar rules given by tholkappiyar still can be used to form a sentence in present tamil with some variations, it means that the language should be spoken by the people before 1000 years. The usage of vallinam(hard consonants), mellinam(soft consonants), idaiyinam(middle consonants) are never changed from the period of tholkaapiyar to present. It means that tamil have a standard status of using letters in words. It shows that tamil attain a classical status at the period of tholkaapiyar itself. There more than 1000 words in english which come directly and indirectly from tamil,for ex: Vetri-victory Maangai- mango Curuttu-cigarette Kadavul-god Pavizham-pearl Cattumaram-catamaran Arisi-rice(indirectly from greek-oriza) Murungai-moringa Mathi-moon Ee-bee Ko-king Kuttram- crime Pai-bag Petti-box Vaal-tail Vellai-white Panni-pig Kozhi-cock(hen) Kulir-cool Etc. To refer a person with his country in english we add an,en at some cases like indian, russian, american. If you translate it into tamil it sounds same like indian, Russian, american, coz -an is a suffix in tamil to refer male or person. Same for -er, -ar like maruthuvar-doctor, amaichar- minister, aasiriyar- teacher. The suffix -ar in tamil mentions a respected person and used to mention both gender.
Yes in Australia or New Zealand there is one tribe community called Ma-ori. Here in Tamilnadu we had a king named val vil ori, who ruled the mountainous or hilly regions of TAMIL nadu in ancient period. Ma-ori and val vil ori may be related genetically, ethnically and linguistically. Mao -ori may be ancient tamil sea- farers, who travelled east or south east upto java, sumatra, indonesia and then to Australia and settled there willingly or not knowing how to get back to TAMIL Homeland . It happened 4000 years back. See Mr. Orissa balu's video about australian aborigines.
தமிழனாய் பிறந்து தமிழை தாய் மொழியாக பேசி தமிழ் மண்ணில் வாழ்வதை நினைத்து பேரின்பமும் பெரும் கர்வமும் கொள்கிறேன்...திராவிட உருட்டெல்லாம் சீக்கிரம் சிதறட்டும்...தமிழ் தாய் 😍❤🙏
There are evidences that has been destroyed and there are still, stone carvings of the language Tamil that stands still young even after 5500 years !! I'm speaking here about a language that has number, cases, tenses, classes, harmony, grammar etc. framed properly even before 5000 years , where some great civilizations of the world were just developing !! This note is not to degrade other languages, but to let you know the truth about Tamil language !! வாழ்க தமிழ் மொழி🙏
I'm too a tamilian,tamil has the best grammar compared to the rest of the ancient languages,it would take really lots of years to form a language like this but it's very far as 10000 years or something like that,if it is it has a burden of proof to prove it,tamil may be spoken from 3000bc but not a definable language but as a prototype it evolved for a lots of years to be as a written language which are the results of sanga ellakiyam or sangam scripts which is written around 10-3 BCE.
Indha maari poduvenu solli dhan avan mukki mukki pesunan. Tamil as we know it, can not be traced back to more than 600 BC yet. There is no wild conspiracy to hide the evidence for Tamil being the mother of all languages. Do not predicate your arguments for the richness of Tamil on its age. Sure, it is old. But not THAT old. Get over it.
Stop it! Keezhadi site is date to be from 6th century BC and the Tamil inscriptions discovered are in Brahmi script, which is from North India and was used to write Sanskrit. Tamil isn't 5500 old doofus.
All modern languages can be traced back to some kind of old proto language - true. The question is which language is still using/understand the proto language. A text from 600BCE could be easily understood by most tamil speakers (classical languages exhibit high degree of diglossia meaning written language differ widely from spoken colloquial language) Even today students study, read and understand poems written 2000 years back.
I appreciate You have Done a Proper research about it.. With Historical Difference between written Literature and Spoken Language with Timeline is Different.. Existence of Civilization.. And Kingdom. Love your work.
@@berhoom2024 I was about to say just google it. But since you asked me, I am copy pasting the languages that are from this wiki article. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_India#Classical_languages_of_India Classical languages of India In 2004, the Government of India declared that languages that met certain requirements could be accorded the status of a "Classical Language" of India.[135] Over the next few years, several languages were granted the Classical status, and demands have been made for other languages, including Bengali[136][137] and Marathi.[138] Languages thus far declared to be Classical: Tamil (in 2004) Sanskrit (in 2005) Kannada (in 2008) Telugu (in 2008) Malayalam (in 2013) Odia (in 2014) From the wiki article for Tamil: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_language *_Tamil is one of the longest-surviving classical languages in the world._*15][16] A. K. Ramanujan described it as "the only language of contemporary India which is recognizably continuous with a classical past."[17] The variety and quality of classical Tamil literature has led to it being described as "one of the great classical traditions and literatures of the world".[18]
Its not logical to conclude that a single oldest common ancestor language (proto-human) existed. It is possible that multiple proto languages arose independantly in different areas of the globe and diverged from these earliest tongues. Also, it could be that earlier language families arose and died out before the common ancestor of modern languages arose. This may have happened multiple times when humans evolved the capacity for speech.
@@Dragoonoar why do you assume this. Just because we can observe that languages evolve from common ancestors doesnt mean that all languages must descend from a single common ancestor. It is perfectly possible that multiple languages arose independantly of each other when humans began to evolve the neurological and physical anatomy that allowed them to construct and use language. Im not saying its impossible that all modern languages share a common ancestor by the way, im just saying that we have no evidence of its existence.
Yes, I was going to comment that just now. We don't if the first language developed in the first human community, which every other community came from. It is pretty plausible that "firsts" languages appeared in different communities, in different places and at a different time, bring us to the hipothesis, that an "oldest language" is totally possible.
It will be good if you can speak the similar way about Sanskrit which they claim as 2200 BC without the archeological evidence. Tamil is the oldest surviving/living language of the world with archeological evidence of 2600 years. Tamil has evolved to use modern script and it is has its own dialects but still called Tamil.
Yeah so far you are correct and the recent archeological and scientific evidences shows that Ancient tamil civilization dates back to 600 BCE. But the catch here is the Tamil brahmi script found in tamil nadu and indus script have some links and many linguists and archeologists are looking for more evidences to prove this as this is just a conjecture so far. But who knows what happens in the future. It might be true that tamil may not be the first spoken language (like you said its absurd to call it that way) but it may very well be the oldest and still existing language as indus valley civilization dates back to atleast 3000BCE. As excavations are still going on and more evidences are being found and the similarities in both scripts are being studied and analysed. And i hope you make another video about this in the future and dont forget to mention me if what i said really happen.
TAMIL is the oldest Lang , first language on earth ,but If u need more proof archeological department need to do a research on , KUMARIKANDAM , Kms under water surpassing Sri Lanka , that's were u will know the age of Tamil Language and u will be surprised.
@@YogeshKumar-pm4fl my question is anyone has done the research going under water ?? Everyone saying oldest language proof is under water if no one has gone how come these ppl came to know ??🤷
@@sandesha1307 It was a myth or something i am not sure that the Kumarikandam was deatroyed by natural disasters or something we dunno but it has been told that the Kumarikandam joins India with Australia
This theory is just the fruit of some Tamil nationalism because of the dominance of the Hindi language in India. All languages evolve through time, they don't appear out of the blue. Tamil is not the first language and even in its actual form it is not the oldest language because it would mean that it hasn't evolved at all in centuries or even millenia which is a ridiculous idea.
//This was a reply to one of the previous commenters// *Politics and the Language preservation* Yes the language was free of political influences. But it was mostly down to the Tamil kings who, even at those times itself had enormous pride towards the language than the land. _The three clans MOOVENDHAR(Meaning: Moo-Three Vendhar-Kings) There were three clans of Big Kings that ruled this land. All three had their priority towards the language set. The poets of other kingdoms were welcome in another despite of the differences between the three. Often the talks to avoid wars were by the poets rather than their ministers. We know these because of our ancient literatures. Our literatures are also well formulated.. A lot of the stories about the kings were from PURANAANOORU (Puram+NAANOORU = OUT+400) This puranaanooru is based on qualities of a person that are af great outer* value like Valor, Honesty, Mercy etc., The 400 songs are collection of works by individual poets affiliated to different kingdoms. They tell the story about their deeds. Similarly there is Aganaanooru (Agam + Naanooru = IN + 400). This work is based on inner and more personal values like Love, Self discipline. The Aganaanooru contains works (400 poems) that describe the daily lifestyle of common people. Then there are more bigger works like AinguruKapiyam and Ainperugapiyam. Aingurngapiyam => ainthu(5) + kuru (small) + kappiyam(epic) Aiperungapiyam => ainthu(5) + perum(big) + kappiyam(epic) Both of them combinedly has 10 great epics of Tamil. All these are from the "sangam" era. The Sangam Era: Sangam(court) - where literary works are published under critiques, often peers of the poets from all the Tamil kingdoms(the major three and minor kingdoms) It was the golden age of tamil Literature. There were three great sangams. => Mudhal Sangam(The first Sangam)Lasted ~5000 Years => Idai Sangam (The Middle Sangam)Lasted ~4000 years => Kadai sangam (The Last Sangam)lasted ~2000 years Periods might overlap* Wiki on Sangam en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangam_period#:~:text=According%20to%20Tamil%20legends%2C%20there,the%20first%20two%20being%20legendary. All these three are way older. Most of our literatures are from the middle one and the last one. With there being mentions of the first one in many of the works. Literally our literature could date back way longer than 10000 years. That is why many of the Tamils believe that our language is the first one. But the time periods can't be proved accurate scientifically. Only way it can be proved is like the mention of the names of the kings from Puranaanooru in Culverts(Inscriptions). This method has only proved that the last sangam was about 2500 yrs old, by the discovery of a inscription containing the name of a Tamil king mentioned in Puranaanooru which was from the Last sangam. The Inscription was carbon dated and the period was approximated. More than 80 - 90 percent of Culverts discovered all over India is in Tamil Brahmi a.k.a Tamizhi, which was a older Tamil Script. You could have a go at this Documentary series. It has 8 episode from the 3rd video of the playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLAU5iw78o0yv43YbcdHV9bWqMIkVANXnf This can give an overview on Tamil. Current Political Scenario: 1)Aryan: Tamil is so different. It stands out among Indian languages, it's people are also different. There are lots of theories out there in Anthropology and Linguistics. The aryan invasion theory which is globally accepted is frowned upon in India except by Tamils. This implies that Sanskrit which is from Proto Indo-European language is an outsider. Which contradicts the political motivation of the majority of Central Government parties (Right winged) in India. For them India is for Indians (Indians = Hindus). Muslims should be in Pakistan. India should be a Hindu nation upholding Aryan Vedic values. AIT(Aryan Invasion Theory) makes them outsiders too. So they oppose it in the Indian political scene by stating that it is a Christian British propaganda to divide Indians into Aryans and Dravidians while there is divide as such. 2)Dravidian/Tamil: At the same time AIT makes Tamils(Dravidians) the most native people and relates them with Indus valley civilization( you might get some info on it in the above mentioned playlist). But This also has its extremist effects. Many Tamils are made to believe that "there was no Dravidians but Tamils, Tamil is the Oldest language.", disregarding the linguistics (language evolution theory which implies there must me a proto language that was not Tamil). Effect on This on Tamil: 1) If the central government goes on disregarding AIT, upholds the Hindu nationalism. That's the death of Tamil. Because Hindi is spoken by majority of people in India. Hindi is for Hindus like Urdu is for Pakistanis. The will impose Hindi in every thing. Every Examination, Government documents would be in Hindi only. Now it is in Hindi and English. Only state docs and exams are in state language like Tamil. If this happens people would be forced to learn Hindi. It is an indirect imposition. People would not learn Tamil as a college degree which will not give them bread and butter. This has started to happen now. 2)The Tamil nationalism at the most could result in separate country for Tamils ( Which is impossible). But if it happens the Tamil country could do well. Because TamilNadu is one of the top 3 stated (most developed) in India. It could be the next south Korea. But India will become a player, there would be border clashes, resource distribution problem etc., But it will have a healthy environment for the language. But the environment where the language could thrive can be provide by the Indian(central) government itself. India's beauty is in it's diversity. It is like Europe. For every sate border you cross in India you will feel tlike you are in a different country. The central government can be of the form of European Union. That would help the diversity and Unity. But for that the government should be liberal and not lean to the far Right. ======================================= Ultimately Tamil is facing its biggest threat only now (It might not seem so). That is why you can see triggered Tamils all over the internet. There is a 2000 year old saying from puranaanooru. It is as follows.. Yaadhum OOre, Yaavarum Kelir. [Yadhum - everything / everywhere ; OOre - Country ; Yaavrum - Every one; Kelir - Relative ] If you want to know how it sounds. watch this. It is a snippet from the speech of former Indian president APJ Abdul Kalam (a Tamil) in the European parliament. " Everywhere is our neighborhood, Every one is our relative " Tamil literatures are not that religious. Only later modern literatures from 19th century became religious. For Tamils religion, race, caste, creed doesn't matter. They are one in the sense that they a Tamil [ but not for politically polluted ones ]
//This was a reply to one of the previous commenters.// *"It has conserved its structure for the past 5000 years and it's past self is the same an the current one."* 1) Your comment is was underlining that *no language is the same as its past self*. It changes over time and branches into dialects, so you can't claim that the currently spoken language as the one that was spoken long ago." For this you have given a lot of analogies like Chinese and its dialects, Hindi and Sanskrit and now Italian and Latin (as I mentioned it). My argument was, _Did Tamil change? yes_, but.. In the case of Tamil "*it has conserved its form*", ---->Yes, it has and had dialects, Yes, it evolved, but _the Parent language is still the same and alive._ All the changes it endured due to geographical and political causes has transformed its oldest dialects into new distinct languages, like Malayalam, Telugu, Kannada and much more (may be similar to the dialects of Chinese intelligible for mandarin speakers). "*_But the root language Tamil as survived_*" unlike Sanskrit, Latin etc., Don't forget that it is one of the Classical Languages of the world. _Is Tamil the same as its past self? yes.,_ _Was it "TAMIL" for all those times? YES..!_ ===========================================================
(*You will not understand*) You probably are a speaker of one of the Germanic languages most probably English. The oldest literature you might learn in your high school could be Shakespeare's. ===>But what we learn is literature that is more than 2000 years old which was highly refined "grammatically and philosophically" at that time itself. *_The oldest grammar book written in Tamil is 2500 years old (Tholkapiyam)_***. *It is the same grammar that we follow till now.* The author 0f Tholkapiyam has stated that it was the v2 of the original book (Agathiyam) which unfortunately we don't have. You as a follower of linguistic channels must know that grammar of a language comes later in the evolution process of a language. Which makes that, "Tamil might be(has been) spoken even before that". Thus you will not understand the emotion of it's speakers. ===============This was the Bragging================= 2)*Arabic speakers, Icelanders, Chinese can understand their older form*: =======> That is cool. If you think that I am unaware of it, it is not my problem. This statement has nothing to do with tha "argument" here. It is like, "Hey look Tamil speaker! Don't go overboard thinking that you alone can understand an ancient language. Some language speakers does too." ---Wtf man..! *Should I be jealous now*. By the way it is not the same in the case of Tamil. Because the grammar that we follow itself is older. It is more than the comprehension of the Poetic Edda or Classical Arabic. That is not unique to Tamil: *Nah...!It is unique.* 3)*That guy did nothing wrong:* I already said that ====="*You won't understand*"======== _"don’t go out of your way to find videos about Tamil and attack"_ If you feel so I am not responsible. It might be the RUclips algorithm. By the way I did not "search" for this video. I have been a silent follower of this channel for a long time now. This is the first video where I am commenting. _" It makes Tamils look bad "_ Out of 10000000 speakers there are people who think tamil is the oldest language. I can't blame them for not being linguists. ==================================================== *Do I believe Tamil is the first ever language that homosapiens spoke?* =====> *No*. But I am proud of it. It is not the same as other languages of the world. It is the same as it was 5000 years ago even older (If Indus scripts are deciphered, The age might be pushed back even further) ---------- *This guy did do wrong* (0:58)I know this is on the same page as I am, But I can feel the sarcasm and derogation in the video (for Tamils looked bad as you said when some claimed and claim that It is the oldest language) ======================================================================================== If really want to know why Tamils are so proud of their language, you can watch this *documentary series (_TAMIZHI_)*. It has english subs. ruclips.net/p/PLAU5iw78o0yv43YbcdHV9bWqMIkVANXnf This has eight episodes starting from the third video. *DO NOT READ the comments*. Otherwise Tamils will look bad to you.
@@gurunandhaelamezhagan4544 as you mentioned about the sangam literature are you sure it is 4000 BC years old or 4000 BP old because most of the dates measured by archeologists in South India is based on BP(before present),then the dates would go to 2000BC so,that contradicts with the oldest language
@@tritrios Yes I am sure. The 2000 yrs or the 2500 yrs thing is because most of literature that we currently have are from the Kadai Sangam ( The last Sangam). The Kadai Sangam is the third Sangam as per the literature. There are numerous mentions previous two sangams which date further back.
Nobody is saying tamil is the 1 st language in the world but it is definitely one of the oldest surviving language in the world. We have softwares in Tamizh(tamil) , we still speak and can understand the tamil spoken nearly 2000 years ago.
@Nikos hr what is your problem?I am entitled to my opinion as you are entitled to yours. I didn't say a single word about the culture, I am talking only about the language. Don't be a bully. If you don't like tamizh well and good. Nobody is forcing it upon you. Why are you also tearing down other languages?
@Nikos hr there are languages older than tamizh, but they went in and out of usage and where revived at somepoint. But tamizh has been in continous usage for the past 2300 years(oldest Tamil brami script 300 BCE) .
@Nikos Tamils have history more than 12000 years. But we are unfortunate that the Indian government itself is not interested in researching our Tamils history. Because it is politically cornered. U have to understand India's complex political, race language system first. Tamils were the first sea - farers in the world. Not arabic or greek or Chinese. We're sea farers for more than 4000 years. See Mr. Orissa balu's video about Australian aborigines. And I strongly think without a language u cannot communicate to build a ship .
I see many people saying that it's the Oldest Language ever. Not just the oldest living Language, and there are a few living Languages older than Tamil as well.
@Rainy Days Offer what? no one is offering anything. It is interesting how you think I'm white. Humans evolved in Africa period. Now call me black and insult me a gain, show everyone that you are just a plain old racist.
Bro u need more research about Tamil Still u don't know about Tamil If u think Egyptn language is older than Tamil then how Tamil and Egyptians did navy sea contact And also Rome Adichanallur research is more important
You have done fantastic research about languages can you able to make a video abt 3500BCE Sumerian and similarities between others? because here we can see the word Sumerian itself in Tamil's root word (Ma-மா) Ma means - measures things in several ways, for more information pls : ruclips.net/video/_BCwcIzsJVM/видео.html In ancient tamil scriptures the word Meru used in many places Meru indicates higher, bigger mountain top etc ( pronounce mea as may) In tamil we still commonly use similar words starts frm "Mea"மே (meale - top) (meal - better), (Meagam -clouds) (measai - desktop) (mearku - west) and so on and if you look at the places in ancient (Ku- Meru - now Kumari) (KashMeru - now Kashmir) like that can you pls elaborate Sumerian? With the root word of any other ancient language? We Tamils atleast hypothetically understand who Sumerians are ! Thank you.
one more thing, What is the link between Indus valley Harappan And the thousands of miles down south in keezhadi tamilnadu ? ...Tamizhi or Tamil Brahmi inscriptions found in keezhadi excavation, the most interesting part is Graffiti Symbols and Signs inscribed jointly with Tamizhi Alphabet , those hundreds of graffiti symbols exactly matches with Indus Valley Harappan Graffiti Symbols! How ? Want more ? just see the results of Rakhighari's DNA (Harappan civilization) !! day will come soon to prove scientifically authentically the whole civilization is one. Thank you
@@abdul54143 being a student of philosophy the video you showed is something called as cultural digestion . Let me explain it to you PUJA and GOPORAM has a practical significance but now to convert people you use that aspects and incorporate into yourself without understanding essence then it becomes a ritual and boom next generation can't understand it. Follow Islam but please don't forget your hindu civilizational roots . I WAS JUST LIKE YOU A BY-PRODUCT OF A CONVENT SCHOOL but now I am understanding the play.
There were 3 Sangams ( Institutions) that organised Tamil lingua franca 1st Tamil ( Sangam) Institutional gathering Happened 4440 years of time span which was founded by god Shiva (El shadai god mentioned by Jews) himself { ended due to flood} 2nd Tamil ( Sangam) Institutional gathering happened 3700 years of time span which was founded by god Murugan ( Tamuz of Sumeria) { Ended due to Maha bharat war} 3rd Tamil Sangam ( institutional gathering) was organised by Vishnu which extended with time span of 1850 years { ended due to kalabhra war on Tamils land} Totally 4440+3700+1850 = 9990 years Total time span of all Tamil Sangam are 9990 years Flood occurred 10,000 years ago So 10,000 + 4440 = 14440 ~ 15,000 years ago 1st Tamil Sangam Institutional gathering happened Maha bharat happened 5150 years ago + Time span of 2nd Tamil Sangam Institutional gathering is 3700 years = 5150+3700 = 8850 years ago 2nd Tamil Sangam Institutional gathering happened 3rd Tamil Sangam Institutional gathering ended exactly by archaeological evidence as 250 A.D So 1850-250 = 1600 B.C So 3rd Tamil Sangam Institutional gathering happened 3600 years ago At least we have 20,000 years of history, Sumerian is archaic Tamil Research article arutkural.tripod.com/sumstudies/sum-as-arch-tamil.htm You tube link ruclips.net/video/JYGWUv5Zhnw/видео.html ruclips.net/video/GC4N6m4mP4I/видео.html Elamite cananite & Egyptian everything is different time form of Tamil
@Varen kulkarni we have our root words & base words which date back to cave man Iam open minded my literature won't say a lie to me, "The sentence Tamil was spoken only 2600 years ago" makes ur northy thought 💭 out First u should be open minded If it has a lush literature it would take mileniums ago to be born
@Varen kulkarni who doesn't have intellectual ability, U deny ur word that u previously said , my god, may god bless u photos.app.goo.gl/zicc5NoZ8SQAeExa8
PLEASE DONT CALCULATE THE AGE OF TAMIL JUST WITH KEELADI...RESEARCH IN KUMARI KANDAM THEN U WILL GET TO KNOW MANY SHOCKING INFORMATION ABOUT TAMIL...🔥🔥🔥தமிழ்🔥🔥🔥
@Varen kulkarni I ACCEPT YOUR POINTS...BUT KUMARI KANDAM IS NOT A MYTH...SOON EVERY ONE WILL COME TO KNOW ABOUT...THERE ARE STRONG POINTS TO SAY KUMARI KANDAM WAS THERE BUT OUR GOVERNMENT DID NOT MIND IT...SOON RESEARCHES SHOULD BE DONE THERE
@Varen kulkarni for ur info Sumeria which is also a Tamizh word..."Meru" means Mountain in ancient Tamil language..and there are tons and tons of similarities with Tamizh and Sumerian Culture...even I too thought it was a fake one...but looking at the similarity I was literally shocked!
Mygoodness the amount of people assuming that a certain language is the oldest is just awful. Let me start off with this, languages cannot have an age language is in a constant state of evolution and the ancestor of every language spoken today have existed in every points of history meaning they are all equally “old”. An article could determine dates of written languages but the problem with it is that written language can be different in spoken language, dates of written a language does not determine the date of when was that written language began to be spoken by its speakers.
@SIDDHAARTH MANIAN exactly! Telugu is so sweet, tamil is a piece of crap compared to other languages. I wish my mother tongue wasn’t Tamil 😅😢 it’s torture and embarrassing
@@Firetech2004 If ur mother tongue was tamil, u would have said today that tamil is the sweetest language. Since becoz u like ur mother tongue and u don't know anything about tamil language, it doesn't mean that u can make fun of other languages. Tamil is the sweetest in the world.
Tamil is too difficult to speak read understand and write. Idk how my family members can speak Tamil fluently but I can’t. Maybe it’s because I grew up speaking more English than Tamil
It is proved that it is a dravidian language...The keezhadi excavation site shows connection with the indus valley...as they find similar writing scripts in keezhadi...it could be Tamil or Tamil evolved from the Indus valley language
@@இளஞ்சென்னி yeah read about that. There are some graffiti symbols which are matching. Still research is at early stage long way to go to prove. Nevertheless no other language family or culture can come close to Indus other than Dravidian.
The oldest literary record we have for Tamil, the Tolkappiyam and the Sangam texts is about 300BC. The oldest available Tamil writing is from Keezhadi excavation, 600BC. So the oldest record we have for Tamil writing is about 2600 years only. Adichanallur excavation shows settled civilization going back to 950BC but no evidence of writing. This makes Tamil ONE OF the oldest surviving languages in the world but it does not make it THE OLDEST or even THE FIRST language. There are other languages which are older than Tamil notably Egyptian and Sumerian. Present day Tamil speakers both native and non-native need to first have an open mind when speaking about history. What many fail to realise is that the ancestors of the present day Tamils could have even spoken different languages during different period and those languages could have gone extinct. On other words, we have been using Tamil to communicate for the last 2600 years only. What language we spoke before that or what we will speak 3000 years from now is unknown. The same goes to any other human societies in this planet.
You have mentioned about Tolkappiyam and it's not just an ordinary book with Tamil words. It is a book that contains grammar rules of the language and a well defined language don't get created in a single day. Keezhadi excavations results shows us that there are tamil writings in clay pots which are used by women. It is not a present day situation where almost every people have access to education. People had been well taught and mostly everyone had access to them without discrimination and it can happen only in a well developed civilisation.
@@mdeepak History is all about evidence and not assumption. Our evidence is only 2600 years of written record. Until we can find older evidence, we must not make assumptions. Presently Tamil writing is not the oldest writing. There are others much older. Spoken Tamil is also not the oldest language. Therefore, claims of Tamil being oldest is illogical and not supported by any evidence.
Sir have confirmed these facts from archaeologist . I am archaeologist. Let me show you oldest sanskrit word not script found in khoi script Found by bhu professor D.p. sharma Now another interesting facts khoi script contains two one is Indus script another is khoi script which symbol like brahmi and have sanskrit word. According to Tamil tradition lord Shiva and vedic sage Agastya use sanskrit words to make Tamil language'.. according to dna data nor Dravidian existed. Every one lived in north India and latter shifted due to river decline and climate changes. ...if u need more evidence I will provide u. Rigveda according to Griffith, bb lal, tilak is 9000bce means writing is 9000bce than language much older than writing.. and this is scientific data u can ignore few facts but not with science.
@@SharmalanThevar i didn't made any assumptions. Are you telling that Tamil developed just 2600 years ago without any time for development. You are mentioning the oldest written evidence. Please tell me whether any other language have rich literary works from the past. You must understand how long does it take for a language to evolve.
First to comment! Actually Tamil is related to Sumerian. And Sumerian is ancient so I see why Tamils feel proud with their language. Actually Tamil merchants were building trans-oceanic trade networks way before the Euros
Not just english, Russian, Chinese, Korean languages got plenty words similar with closest references! Kundi - A$$ - Korean Arbuz - Watermelon - Russian Ni - You - Pinyin, Go find out more, Im not getting "({[]})" paid for this 😏
I'm Tamil. Tamil is ONE OF THE Oldest Languages. But a lot of here us believe that it was the first proto-human language, due to the references we have in Sangam literature. Sadly there aren't much scientific evidences to prove this. Unless or until we do a deep dive into the Keezhadi & Adichanallur cases we wouldn't know. And the Central Government of India would never want to support or fund the excavations or research for their political benefits. But here is the thing... FACT CHECK: தமிழ் (Tamil) is a CLASSICAL language and the only one that's still in practice in both oral & written forms. And I hope you'll do a research about G.U.Pope he knows better 😉
Tamil is not only the world's first language more than that my mother language is hearable on universe . Recently researchers identified that the sound from the sun is a tamil word ஓம் "ohm" and the scientists got nobel prize for identified this❤️ so please research better & make a better pure truth video ❤️
Or aaaa eeee and uuuu which are the common sounds of mammals , which is also the first three vowels of Tamil , then comes the aee ooo which are uncommon, and then aii and ouu very rare
Being an Indian I support you because you are fighting facts not Tamil but Tamil belief(ego) even shiv does not agree with tamil on this thing because shiv is not ego
all the things and living being are evolving day by day..so a good language also should evolve along with time..but we read those 2000 years old scripts in our school books..without understanding how i can read that..shapes of letters changes but meaning remain same
Being a Tamilan I would say the fact is sanskrit is the language spoken by God and tamil is the oldest language spoken on earth even Tamil scholars like kamban who wrote many Tamil literature has mixed Tamil and sanskrit words
Jambudveepa untold mysteries of Mothers of all languages The oldest languages in the world are Sanskrit, Tamil and Kannada. Kannada and Sanskrit mantras worship God. Most Tamil speakers practice all over the world. In ancient Vedic culture the queens of all languages were Tamil and Kannada. Sanskrit is the mother tongue of all languages. Tamil Kannada and Sanskrit are the pillars of all languages around the world.
Old language != first language. The first language likely went extinct long ago (that is, if there was even a first language and not various languages that sprung up independently throughout the world).
@lion fish please don't pull the bible crap here. Christianity is a good religion to follow but neither everything happened in it is true nor its the only 'true religion'.
There is no such thing as an "old language", because languages have no age. They slowly evolve from previous languages. The first language itself probably evolved and chagned, and then diverged as humans started moving away from each other. The question of whether languages sprung up independently is hard to answer, of course. Seeing as language likely evolved alongside human evolution, the question would be if there are different branches of human species that all evolved languages separately, e.g. Neanderthals etc.
Bro , I am from tamilnadu ,i thing that tamil is oldest language and as it's my mother tongue , I got new angle of thought because you say that all language are oldest . But you know people in tamil nadu saying that tamil is 40000 years oldest language because of lemoria continent which is destroyed by natural calamities . The proof that we have is some oldest book that has noted this destroyed continent called Kumari kandam . Can u post a video on kumari kandam
In Egypt also have some Tamil words available like "ANNAI" with a meaning of mother. Still this word used by Tamil people. We have evidence for business with Sumerian people. Lot Chinese places with tamil names still with same meaning
The name permit is a tamil language "peru + etu - periya edukadu " permit doned the same purpose what edukadu doing still now & lots of tamil people's are kings in Egypt on ancient times and it's scientifically proven & their bodys also identified on permit so please research well or don't make about our language with your silly reaction & sorry if I hated you👍❤️
Hey guys i searched which is the first launguage in world it came tamil I was proud to be a tamilan at the same time when I searched which is the first language in india it came sanskrit 🙁even though every country in world accepted but our india didn't ready to allow if u have doubt in me you guys itself search which is first in india
I am not going to debate saying Tamil is the oldest language in world. As a Tamil speaker I always astonished by its scripture and literature contents than its age. I don't mind if linguistic researchers proves that Tamil language is not old, as long as Tamil speakers prevent their beautiful literature contents which was selfless, non religious and teaches the people good qualities. Proud to be Tamil speaker when the world declare "THIRUKURAL" as worldly accepted scripture ever and non religious highly translated scripture in the World. Our ancestors wants to preserve Tamil language because of these selfless scriptures to reach people and help the world. As long as we speak Tamil and preserve it, one day Tamil would be language that saves future.
Saying that all languages are the oldest languages is like saying that all humans are the oldest humans since we all evolved from the same common ancestor. In reality, Italian is younger than Latin, like you're younger than your father.
He think he can dilute matters... Then you guys should not do researching history and languages, without considering controversial topic which is oldest... It is equivalent to human history of thinking and communicating... The best answers can be we can't say the oldest language, but we can compare and sort all the known languages, right? In that one language must come first, but you should also give space to other languages... Many languages requires serious support... It is our fate to be in caught up in Indian, Sri Lankan and World politics in favour of Sanskrit, for which there isn't much proof...
Being a malayali I am proud to know that I can speak tamil 🔥
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Ya because all malayali ppl stay in other state or country u have to be proud😂😂😂
I'm hindu and Tamil is my mother tounge
Are you malayali
@@jayalakshmie261 yeah
இங்கு யாருனா தமிழர்கள் இருக்கிறீர்கள் என்றால் அழுத்துங்க பட்டனை. தெறிக்கவிடுங்க. Thank you friend Mr. you tuber my brother....
Dai avan criticize pandranda
We Tamilians blaming this person. First we have to blame ourself for not taking any effort to protect architecture or not taking any interest in doing research on Tamil.
Apudianga aiya! Saerigaiya
@@CSThomasAbrahamC neenga moodunga aiyya !
Tamilans are not promoting tamil that is a true fact ...even neighbouring states domt mnow to read tamil ...there should be an option beetween tamil or hindi as thrid language for south indians
@Rainy Days we must protect our race!
@@prose2283 ummm, honestly there should be tamil or hindi for North Indian states since they're the ones who comes here looking for job so yea
Tamil is not only language but its a culture !
Yes But what's about Religion?
@@dhonikumarshahi2806 Your hinduism is itself was taken from ancient tamil religion , and there is enough proofs.
@@harshavardhana3895 😂
Show some
@@dhonikumarshahi2806 *_Do you know Tamil if then study sangailakiyam, there's the proof_*
@@rahuldevprasad3245 *NO*
Iam proud to be Tamilian
Me too
Na chennai le errakai
You should proud that you are Indian.... that we have world's two oldest language in the world is Tamil and Sanskrit
@வலையர் குடி முத்தரையர்கள் didn't you read anything....you fool
Hey, summerian, hebrew and way older than tamil. Tamil is not the first language mind it. Tamil is oldest living language.. their is huge difference, if u want to debate more people used painting and sign language during olden times (it was a language during that time) which we still use. Even tholkappiyam script was written in 350 bce summerian script:3500 bce before that unknown tribal language with rare evidence before that paintings in the walls before that we didn't even communicate. If u think oldest is the best then what u say about this.
தமிழர்கள் லைக் பட்டனை தெறிக்க விடுங்க
👇❤
Hi bro can i ask question
Write in English.
Vera level 👍👍👍👍
adeii....avan Tamil old Ila nu solrdran da
@@prajjwalsingh7883 no way we Tamils loves our Tamil language we don't need to write in english you hindi imposition vadakkan
As a tamilian, I apologize you had to go through those hateful comments for the previous video. The greatness of a self is accepting the facts. It is impossible that one language existed before all. It's good enough to know that Tamil is one of oldest and surviving language. Thank you for making the effort to educate everyone. ❤️ Thanks mate !
Every language is great they make us communicate with each other and help us to spread any kind of message very easily but I've seen tamil people as the most arrogant and divided people on the basis of language, they are basically going against the meaning of langauge
I agree. Evidence found that Tamil is more than 5000 years old! but Tamil is not the first language of humans, it's one of the oldest language still exists!
I agree
Tamil is the oldest language of the world. U guys better accept the reality. It was a language which was created by lord shiva himself and there for its atleast 20000 years old. Its just the beginning of the research. Everyone will get to know the truth soon
@SIDDHAARTH MANIAN it's ok bro. But whatever u want to convey , do it in a nice manner instead of a provoking manner. Don't use these words dream world and fakely proud and all these things. Although I believe strongly that tamil is the oldest language, but even if its not true , then also we will feel equally proud as it will still be one of the oldest and richest languages of the world.And still tamil has high chances of being the oldest language and it's even officially declared too. Since these languages r way older than us , so we really don't know what's the truth. So I think we should just say our opinions and stop there instead of using words like these. Hope u understand
After keeladi, it's now proven, it is the oldest written language of india, we are researching, there'll be time to prove to the world.
ஆமாம்
It is Keezhadi not Keeladi
@@Sakthivel-dq1di Ippove kanna kattudhe! 😬 however thank you for notifying it
@SIDDHAARTH MANIANTamil has no relation with brahmi, since it was found equal or before the brahmi, it was said to be Tamil brahmi. You can derive the terms but everything is found in Tamil land.
@SIDDHAARTH MANIAN If you see the adichanallur and keezadi scripts, those are tamil scripts which is found before 300 BC and 1000 BC. The term brahmi was given to script after emperor ashoka.
Thamilanda 😎😎 I am a Tamil😎😎 Sorry தமிழ்🔥
@SIDDHAARTH MANIAN Watch this bro: ruclips.net/video/fh4RNP4bMWk/видео.html
And this, then you will know: ruclips.net/video/0uBYomUSOoM/видео.html
Tamil-kundi? It sounds so yuk
Tamil is not just our language...it is our culture..it's equally respected to our mother.
Proud Tamilandaaa..!!
I know tamil is oldest language. As citizen of india am proud of tamil nd i love nd respect tamil language. Tamil is pride of ours.
Stop fooling yourself and others ivc and Mesopotamia both don't use Tamil 😂
தமிழ் எங்கள் மூச்சு
Means Tamil Is Life Of Us
Tamil Is Emotion
Tamil Is Culture
Tamil Is My Soul
Hindu Is Only A Religion
I Love Tamil More Than Hindu And Other Region
We Are Not Migrants Or Anything We Are The Ansestors
ஆங்கிலம் ஒரு மொழி
English Is A Language
You stupid Tamil language is itself created by a Hindu God lord muruga and the language of God is sanskrit so both Tamil and sanskrit are oldest language
Are you not a hindu?
Tamil is not just a language it's a culture. It does not matter how old it is and I strongly believe ancient Tamil people were more advance than us. Because of the political issues the greatness is not getting exposed to the world as we are speaking of ancient Egyptian civilization and their technologies.
Language means culture. Language is just an expression of its culture.
It is 100% person true tamil is not a language but a culture..... So is every language. Telugu is culture, gujarati is a culture, marati is a culture and bengali aswell..... Now if you believe there where ancient people talking your language..... Sorry to say ancient tamilians didnt exist at all. And since there is no ancient tamils there is no advanced ancient people. But by mentioning tamil you are mentioning ancient protodravidian language people, then such an ancient civilization existed but they were very inferior to present day people and technology.
That's the biggest BS I've ever heard
தமிழ் உலகின் தாய் மொழி.
Adhu dhan illainu solli ivan ivlo mukkunaanla. Apram enna -_-
Lmao so delusional
Iya ethai prove pannu ( Go ahead & show evidence for proof sir, talks are cheap)
Chumma koova vendiyathu... Moodittu poda
@@nnes759 oh woah
தமிழன் என்று சொல்லடா தலை நிமிர்ந்து நில்லடா...{tamilan endru sollada thalai nimirndhu nillada..} I am proud to be an tamil speaker..
தமிழன்டா
Lusu, avan tamil pallasu illa endu nakkal adikuraan
@@shankarkumaran4346 😂
We have many ignorant fanatics in Tamil community.Please ignore the trolls.
Hey batter than you and your community people's...
Well, 90% of Tamilians become Fanatic for their Language.. They Go yo Extreme Extent to Hate each and Every Independent Researcher to who will be Doing PHD, Years of Research everything only to Hated by TAMIZANs that if Tamilians Can't Accept TAMIL is not THE OLDEST*** language, But One of the OLDEST LANGUAGE of the world. *
@@jokhhh Lol, Again Another TAMIZANs 🤣🤣🤣
@@sasmalprasanjit2764 Please stop generalising
@@sasmalprasanjit2764 true. Even modi had to lie tamil oldest langauge in world. to impress them. are they really so foolish.
உலகத்தின் முதல் மொழி-தமிழ் மொழி உசுரென காத்தோம்❤❤🔥🔥
Some similar origin Tamil words are in English.
1)PATH - PADHAI
2)KILL-KOLL
3)NAVY-NAVAI
4)SUDDEN-UDAN
5)CULTURE - KALACHARAM
6)SPONGE - PANJU
7)ATTACK - THAKKU
8)KERF - KARUVI
9)VERSE - VARISAI
10)LABOUR - ULAVAR
11)GREEN - KEERAI
12)EVIL - AEVAL
13)PADDY - PAATHTHI
14)VIA - VAZHIYE
15)COOL - KULIR
16)PASTE - PASAI
17)BOTTLE - PUTTIL
18)CASH - KAASU
19)SPEECH - PECHU
20)INN - ILL
21)TOWEL - THUVATTAL
22)BED - PADU
23)PUT - PODU
24)CATAMARAN - KATUMARAM
25)BUSH - PUL
26)WAY - VAZHI
27)CORN - KURUNAI
28)WIDE - VIDIYA
29)TOWEL - THUVAI
30)FADE - VAADU
31)PLUS - PALA
32)PLURAL - PAL
33)POLY - PALVERU
34)BIRTH - PIRATHAL
35)ROUND - URUNDAI
36)SQUARE - SADHURAM
37)MANGO - MANGA
38)GAUVA - KOYYA
39)ONE - ONDRU
40)EIGHT - ETTU
41)VICTORY - VETTRI
42)WIN - VEL
43)WAGON - VAAKANAM
44)ELACHI - ELLAKI
45)COIR - KAYIRU
46)EVE - AVVAI
47)CALENDAR - KALANDHARAM
48)TERRA - THARAI
49)METRE - MAATHIRAI
50)NAME - NAAMAM
51)VOMIT - OMATTU
52)SCRIPT - KURIPPU
53)SPEED - PEEDU
54)SNAKE - NAAKAM
55)MAKE - AAKKAM
56)LEMON - ILAMANJALKAI
57)ROLL - URUL
58)ORATE - URAI
59)KNOWLEDGE - GNAANAM
60)GINGER - INJI
61)MOLECULE - MOOLAKKOORU
62)PRIZE - PARISU
63)OTHER - ITHARA
64)TELE - THOLAI
65)TEAK - THAEKKU
66)RICE - ARISI
67)AQUA - AKKAM
68)VANAM - VIDAM
69)MEGA - MIKA
70)ACCEPT - ISAIPPADU
71)MATURE - MUTHIR
72)GOAT - KADAA
73)PAIN - PINI
74)YARN - GNYAAN
75)TORQUE - THIRUGI
76)LEVEL - ALAVU
77)MAD - MADAMAI
78)SURROUND - SUTTRAM
79)GOD - KADAVUL
80)CAPTURE - KAIPPATRU
81)WANT - VENDI
82)PLOUGH - UZHAVU
83)ADAMANT - ADAM
84)FAULT - PAZHUTHU
85)SHRINK - SURUNGU
86)VILLA - ILLAM
87)COT - KATTIL
88)NERVE - NARAMBU
89)GRAIN - KURUNAI
90)BUTTON - POTHAAN
91)ANICUT - ANAIKATTU
92)ANACONDA - AANAIKONDRAN
93)CANDY - KANDU
94)CORUNDAM - KURUNDHAM
95)COPRA - KOPPURAI
96)MULLIGATAWNY - MELAGUTHANI
97)CONGEE - KANJE
98)PATCHOULI - PATCHILLAI
99)MORINGA - MURUNGAI
100)PANDAL - PANDHAL
101)VETIVER - VETIVER
102)CULVERT - KALVETTU
103)COOLIE - KOOLI
104) PAGODA - PAGAVADI
105)CURRY - CURRY
106)CHETTAH - CHIRATHAI
107)CHEROOT - SURUTU
108)PETTY - PETTI
109)VEIN - VEEN
110)WELCOME - VANNAKAM
111)CLAY - KALI
112)CRY - KARAI
113)BLARE - PILIRU
114)JACK FRUIT - SAKKAI PALAM
115)MEGA - MIGA
116)CULPRIT - KALLAM
117)BETROTHAL - PETROR OTHAL
Tamils are proud of Tamil as they can say that it is our mother tongue obsession but a native English speaker [Walter William Skeet] has recorded this so much as a linguist.W.W Skeat in the Etymological dictionary of the English language noted that 12,960 words out of 14286 came from Tamil.
ruclips.net/video/cAeLh-seSK8/видео.html
Some similar tamil and korean words and their meanings:
Naal - Day
Naan - me
Nee - you
Ulla va - come inside
Pul - grass
Paampu (bam) - snake
Vaa - come
Amma - mother
Appa - Father
Aariro(ஆராரோ)Thalatu - Lullaby for baby (Similar to Aarirang song in Korean)
Akkachi - elder sister (southern slang)
Ammani - Calling a girl with respect (coimbatore slang) like ommoni in korean
Aiyo - Aigu
Sandai - Fight
Yean - why
Anni - sister in law
Athae - that's it (or ) yes in tamil
Thae or dhae is yes in korean I guess...
Arivom - To know (similar to aaro in korean)
Ingu - here,
Ithu - This (in korean igu means this )
Aay - child (in olden tamil
Eg : Most of tamil goddesses have 'aay' in ending like Maariaayi (goddess of rain))
Pun - sore /wound
Kattayam - must do
Manam - Mind (mauem)
Pal - teeth (ippal)
In tamil we cry like "appa" when got a wound or feel a pain
Konjam konjam - a little (like joguem joguem in korean)
Tamil has more connections with other languages also like Japan and tamil has similarities with grammar,similar with cameroonian and Australian aboriginal language, Mayan language, English has many etymological backgrounds with tamil...
Eg :
Pyramid - பெரும் இடு (big graveyard)
Anaconda - ஆனை கொன்றான் (elephant killer)
Candy - கண்டு (கற்கண்டு)
Molecule - மூலக்கூறு
Button - பொத்தான் (பொத்தி வைப்பதால்)
Kanyakumari is once called as Ayuta Which is a district Of Tamil Nadu, located Southern most end of India .which was once ruled by a king under Pandiya daynasity who were the strongest rulers of Tamil Nadu and spreaded all over the world as well, The ruler who roled Kanyakumari under Pandiya dynasty Married her daughter Princess of Kanyakumari to the Prince from Korea, There are still some historical witness that a princess from Ayuta has a brown skin tone and came by a ship flagged with a fish emblem on it (which was the symbol of Pandiyas) and packed with wealth and golds and servents to serve on the way, Still now some Hindu gods are worshipped by Peoples of Korea... thought the title was with the other people officially At least I'm happy still some Tamil family and Korean relatives Still recognise the bonding.
ruclips.net/video/TKTxd2icycA/видео.htmlsi=bcDSvOdnZsMDoR6z
Every language is spoken to express oneself and I am a tamilian. And my language is my identity. So if it is old or not it doesn't matter I respect all languages what I speak. And I am proud of my tamil culture which taught me how to respect others.
Finally....! தமிழ்👨🏻💻😇
Being a Tamilan I would say the fact is sanskrit is the language spoken by God and tamil is the oldest language spoken on earth even Tamil scholars like kamban who wrote many Tamil literature has mixed Tamil and sanskrit words
வணக்கம் நண்பரே... தமிழ்தான் உலக மொழிகளுக்கெல்லாம் தாய்மொழி ....
உங்கள் தமிழ் தேடலுக்கு கோடி நன்றி ...-தமிழ் இசை அமைப்பாளர் _ ஜெயகர் சீனிவாசன்
நன்றி ஜெயகர்
He didn't even say it was the mother of all language🤦♂️.. Are you even listening or you are not capable of understanding anything other than tamil. There is no scientific proof , keep believing fiction
@@tanime_man6535 hey fool then say how tamil language was created
@@tanime_man6535 he is an English guy he will say like that only he can't understand this
@@Jack-en3xytell me how pali was formed how Sumerian was formed 😂
For me my opinion Tamil is my mother tongue and my soul❤️❤️❤️
@SIDDHAARTH MANIAN why r u saying this to him 😂😂 U can write this comment individually 😂😂
@SIDDHAARTH MANIAN that looks like u people r jealous about tamil
@SIDDHAARTH MANIAN ha ha not only you all the telugu people r jealous about tamil and tamilians 😂 .....What u said is completely wrong telugu is better than tamil ah 🥵🤧.....u speaking sarcasm right 😂....tamil is far far better than telugu.....it is spoken in many countries ....in usa only telugu is mostly spoken than tamil.....u people only know to troll tamil people 😂😂😂 jealousy telugites.... 😂 I have seen many telugu people's comments in RUclips most of them are degrading tamil, tamil nadu and tamil people because they can't accept that tamil Is far better than telugu 😂.... Foreigners also willing to learn tamil only not Telugu.....I'm not a telugu people hater but many people's r degrading tamil people in comments so I can't be calm anymore....so that's why I commented this .......sorry if u hurted by this comment ❤️
@SIDDHAARTH MANIAN Ha ha nice joke 😂😂.....Many foreign people came to tamil nadu at the time......and many dedicated their life to tamil ok vaa....don't say that nobody know tamil at the time 😂😂
@SIDDHAARTH MANIAN at 16th century ah 😂😂😂😂 before 16th century itself many foreigners came here and learned tamil and dedicated their lives ❤️.....Many foreigners wiling to learn tamil only not Telugu 😂😂😂😂Many of them don't know telugu 😂
உலக மொழி அனைத்திற்கும் தமிழே தாய் மொழி...
மற்ற மொழிகளை நேசிப்போம்.
தமிழை சுவாசிப்போம் 🔥...
ஓம்நமசிவாய 🙏🔥❤️
Lol Tamil is daughter of pali indus valley and Mesopotamian language are oldest getsove fair skin brother 😂
keeladi excavation is not even excavated 20%, u @#&😂
Keeladi excavation will. Never be completed other wise Tamil dravadian politic on dravadian and Aryan will collapsed which is bread and butter for lot of people in tamilnadu....... And if Keeladi civilsation is found to be more older then harrapa civilization....... You people will have no face to show to so called aryan.😂😂😂😂
@SIDDHAARTH MANIAN you are just ignorant
Mr.polyglot copy the text I typed in Tamil in google translate: நீங்கள் தமிழ் அல்ல, உங்கள் மொழி தமிழ் அல்ல. ஆனால் உங்கள் மொழியின் தாய் தமிழ். இப்போது இதைச் சொல்லுங்கள், தமிழ் எப்போதும் பரந்த உலகின் பழமையான மொழியாக இருக்கும். அது உருவாக்கப்பட்ட முதல் மொழி. அழகான அர்த்தங்கள் கொண்ட அழகான எழுத்துக்கள், சொற்கள் மற்றும் சொற்றொடர்கள் இதில் உள்ளன. நீங்கள் பொறாமைப்படக்கூடாது. உங்கள் சொந்த தாய்மொழியில் பேசுவதற்கு தமிழ்தான் காரணம் என்று நீங்கள் பெருமைப்பட வேண்டும். அதன் உண்மை. நீங்கள் ஏன் பொறாமைப்பட வேண்டும். பொறாமைப்படுவது உங்களுக்கு நன்மை பயக்கிறதா? சொல்லுங்கள், தமிழ் ஒரு பண்டைய மொழி இல்லை என்பதற்கு உங்கள் ஆதாரம் எங்கே? தமிழ் ஒரு பண்டைய மொழி அல்ல என்பதை எனக்கு நிரூபிக்க நீங்கள் ஒரு விஞ்ஞானியா அல்லது கட்டிடக் கலைஞரா? நீங்கள் பன்மொழி மட்டுமே. பன்மொழி பல மொழிகளைப் பேசுகிறது, ஆனால் ஒரு பன்மொழி அதன் தோற்றம் அல்லது வரலாற்றை அறியவில்லை. அதை நீங்கள் எனக்கு எப்படி நிரூபிக்கப் போகிறீர்கள்? உங்களால் முடியாது. ஏனென்றால் சில ஆப்பிரிக்க நாடுகளைப் போன்ற பல்வேறு நாடுகளில் தமிழ் தெளிவாகத் தெரியும். இது உங்கள் மொழியிலும் உள்ளது. உங்கள் மொழியில் சில சொற்களில் தமிழ் சொற்களும் உள்ளன. நீங்கள் ஏன் நம்மீது இத்தகைய வெறுப்பைக் காட்ட வேண்டும்? தமிழ் ஒரு பண்டைய மொழி என்றும் நீங்கள் விரும்பினாலும் விரும்பாவிட்டாலும் அதுதான் உண்மை என்றும் நம்புங்கள். உண்மையை ஒருபோதும் மறைக்கக் கூடாது, அதை வெளிப்படுத்த வேண்டும், விஞ்ஞானிகள் கண்டுபிடித்து அறிவித்ததில் நான் மகிழ்ச்சியடைகிறேன். நான் இதை தமிழில் தட்டச்சு செய்கிறேன், ஏனென்றால் நான் எழுதியதை மற்ற தமிழ் மக்கள் தெரிந்து கொள்ள வேண்டும். நான் கடுமையாக இருந்தால் என்னை மன்னியுங்கள். ஆனால் நான் அதை மக்களுக்கு விழிப்புணர்வு ஏற்படுத்த விரும்புகிறேன். மக்கள் உண்மையை மறைக்க நான் விரும்பவில்லை. எனது அறிவை மக்களுடன் பகிர்ந்து கொள்ள விரும்புகிறேன். அதனால்தான் நான் கருத்து தெரிவித்தேன்.
All letters has special phenotypes, meaning it can be spoken with using chest or stomach, it can be spoke just in mouth itself... That keeps it extremely different and unique
Some Cal derived Tamil words are: Cal: Stone, Cal: Learn (from first writings on stone), Calvi: Education (Edu = book/print matter; + ccu = for; + asan = teacher). The word ‘asan’ itself can be brought down to root words (Asu = knowledge; + an = person; becoming asan = knowledge person). Also, Ca(l)tpi: Teach (the 1st thing human learned how to use was the stone). They used stones for calculations in early times, and so it became ‘calculate’ and a bunch of stones is ‘Calcuvial’ (became Calculus)! These sort of evaluations can be found in every Tamil word and its root. So in Tamil, all these words ( Learn, Education, Teach, and Teacher) must be stone-age words! Thank you for reading :).
The first known written record of tamil was a grammar book named tholkaapiyam written by tholkkapiyar, it refers how to form ezhuthu(letters), sol(words), porul(subject matter). The author also mentions many grammar books and authors who have existed before him. If a language started to write a grammar for its own language during olden times then it should be existed minimum 1000 years before writing that book. The grammar rules given by tholkappiyar still can be used to form a sentence in present tamil with some variations, it means that the language should be spoken by the people before 1000 years. The usage of vallinam(hard consonants), mellinam(soft consonants), idaiyinam(middle consonants) are never changed from the period of tholkaapiyar to present. It means that tamil have a standard status of using letters in words. It shows that tamil attain a classical status at the period of tholkaapiyar itself. There more than 1000 words in english which come directly and indirectly from tamil,for ex:
Vetri-victory
Maangai- mango
Curuttu-cigarette
Kadavul-god
Pavizham-pearl
Cattumaram-catamaran
Arisi-rice(indirectly from greek-oriza)
Murungai-moringa
Mathi-moon
Ee-bee
Ko-king
Kuttram- crime
Pai-bag
Petti-box
Vaal-tail
Vellai-white
Panni-pig
Kozhi-cock(hen)
Kulir-cool
Etc.
To refer a person with his country in english we add an,en at some cases like indian, russian, american. If you translate it into tamil it sounds same like indian, Russian, american, coz -an is a suffix in tamil to refer male or person. Same for -er, -ar like maruthuvar-doctor, amaichar- minister, aasiriyar- teacher. The suffix -ar in tamil mentions a respected person and used to mention both gender.
Many Tamil speakers say it’s a precursor of Australian Aboriginal languages.
True
Beleive a continent was there that connected india and Australia ! In which the while people spoke Tamil language ! Still research is on going !!
Yes in Australia or New Zealand there is one tribe community called Ma-ori. Here in Tamilnadu we had a king named val vil ori, who ruled the mountainous or hilly regions of TAMIL nadu in ancient period.
Ma-ori and val vil ori may be related genetically, ethnically and linguistically. Mao -ori may be ancient tamil sea- farers, who travelled east or south east upto java, sumatra, indonesia and then to Australia and settled there willingly or not knowing how to get back to TAMIL Homeland . It happened 4000 years back. See Mr. Orissa balu's video about australian aborigines.
@@அடிமைத்தமிழன் super bro
@@அடிமைத்தமிழன் super ya
Tq so much for showcasing Tamil to world...in India itself they trying to stop Tamil history.. asamed
One thing : Never mess with Tamils 💪
I am telling this as an Indian . I know, you'll never win .👍🙏
Lol
They can't even gain Independence. Pretty pathetic
Joe Miller what are u talking about ??
Stupid comments like these are the reason why people dont respect tamils.
@@thelucidumbrella Also shit like "Tamil is the oldest Language"
நான் இந்தியத் தமிழன் 🇮🇳😎👈
I know you 🤣🤣🤣
Appo vandhu tamilan Sunni aa ooombu vaa
@𝗖𝗶𝗻𝗲𝗺𝗮𝘁𝗿𝗼🅾🎥 Tamil pesuna vaarthaigal kottuma? Apdina?
Wow as a Hindi speaker i am very proud to know that,,,
tamil is older...
@@adamirfan6986 🤦♂️🤦♂️avarku tamila nenachi perumaya irukkam avar hindhi ahm
@@kimjongun9517Tamil is oldest surviving language not oldest in the world😂
தமிழனாய் பிறந்து தமிழை தாய் மொழியாக பேசி தமிழ் மண்ணில் வாழ்வதை நினைத்து பேரின்பமும் பெரும் கர்வமும் கொள்கிறேன்...திராவிட உருட்டெல்லாம் சீக்கிரம் சிதறட்டும்...தமிழ் தாய் 😍❤🙏
There are evidences that has been destroyed and there are still, stone carvings of the language Tamil that stands still young even after 5500 years !! I'm speaking here about a language that has number, cases, tenses, classes, harmony, grammar etc. framed properly even before 5000 years , where some great civilizations of the world were just developing !!
This note is not to degrade other languages, but to let you know the truth about Tamil language !! வாழ்க தமிழ் மொழி🙏
I'm too a tamilian,tamil has the best grammar compared to the rest of the ancient languages,it would take really lots of years to form a language like this but it's very far as 10000 years or something like that,if it is it has a burden of proof to prove it,tamil may be spoken from 3000bc but not a definable language but as a prototype it evolved for a lots of years to be as a written language which are the results of sanga ellakiyam or sangam scripts which is written around 10-3 BCE.
Indha maari poduvenu solli dhan avan mukki mukki pesunan. Tamil as we know it, can not be traced back to more than 600 BC yet. There is no wild conspiracy to hide the evidence for Tamil being the mother of all languages. Do not predicate your arguments for the richness of Tamil on its age. Sure, it is old. But not THAT old. Get over it.
I love tamil sadly am not tamilian.
Stop it! Keezhadi site is date to be from 6th century BC and the Tamil inscriptions discovered are in Brahmi script, which is from North India and was used to write Sanskrit. Tamil isn't 5500 old doofus.
@@prajjwalsingh7883 If u dont know just shut dont make false stories
All modern languages can be traced back to some kind of old proto language - true. The question is which language is still using/understand the proto language. A text from 600BCE could be easily understood by most tamil speakers (classical languages exhibit high degree of diglossia meaning written language differ widely from spoken colloquial language) Even today students study, read and understand poems written 2000 years back.
Tamil language was spoken in Indus harappan valley civilization which is 10000 year old.
I appreciate You have Done a Proper
research about it.. With Historical Difference between written Literature and Spoken Language with Timeline is Different.. Existence of Civilization.. And Kingdom.
Love your work.
Then the question is which language has changed the least throughout the history until now?
Yes, your question is the only way to make sense of "What is the oldest language".
Arabic?
@@berhoom2024 0:58. That's Tamil.
@@gurunandhaelamezhagan4544
Do you know which Indian languages have classical status?
@@berhoom2024 I was about to say just google it. But since you asked me,
I am copy pasting the languages that are from this wiki article.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_India#Classical_languages_of_India
Classical languages of India
In 2004, the Government of India declared that languages that met certain requirements could be accorded the status of a "Classical Language" of India.[135] Over the next few years, several languages were granted the Classical status, and demands have been made for other languages, including Bengali[136][137] and Marathi.[138]
Languages thus far declared to be Classical:
Tamil (in 2004)
Sanskrit (in 2005)
Kannada (in 2008)
Telugu (in 2008)
Malayalam (in 2013)
Odia (in 2014)
From the wiki article for Tamil:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_language
*_Tamil is one of the longest-surviving classical languages in the world._*15][16] A. K. Ramanujan described it as "the only language of contemporary India which is recognizably continuous with a classical past."[17] The variety and quality of classical Tamil literature has led to it being described as "one of the great classical traditions and literatures of the world".[18]
Its not logical to conclude that a single oldest common ancestor language (proto-human) existed. It is possible that multiple proto languages arose independantly in different areas of the globe and diverged from these earliest tongues. Also, it could be that earlier language families arose and died out before the common ancestor of modern languages arose. This may have happened multiple times when humans evolved the capacity for speech.
why not? the tree model ultimately points to one single language that is proto-human/proto-world.
@@Dragoonoar why do you assume this. Just because we can observe that languages evolve from common ancestors doesnt mean that all languages must descend from a single common ancestor. It is perfectly possible that multiple languages arose independantly of each other when humans began to evolve the neurological and physical anatomy that allowed them to construct and use language. Im not saying its impossible that all modern languages share a common ancestor by the way, im just saying that we have no evidence of its existence.
Yes, I was going to comment that just now. We don't if the first language developed in the first human community, which every other community came from. It is pretty plausible that "firsts" languages appeared in different communities, in different places and at a different time, bring us to the hipothesis, that an "oldest language" is totally possible.
I was exactly thinking that
@@groenase3261 single proto-world makes sense considering the out of africa theory. or are you suggesting language developed later?
It will be good if you can speak the similar way about Sanskrit which they claim as 2200 BC without the archeological evidence. Tamil is the oldest surviving/living language of the world with archeological evidence of 2600 years. Tamil has evolved to use modern script and it is has its own dialects but still called Tamil.
What is the oldest evidence of tamil ? Sangam 302bce rigveda 1600 bce Sumerian 3200 bce 😂
Yeah so far you are correct and the recent archeological and scientific evidences shows that Ancient tamil civilization dates back to 600 BCE. But the catch here is the Tamil brahmi script found in tamil nadu and indus script have some links and many linguists and archeologists are looking for more evidences to prove this as this is just a conjecture so far. But who knows what happens in the future. It might be true that tamil may not be the first spoken language (like you said its absurd to call it that way) but it may very well be the oldest and still existing language as indus valley civilization dates back to atleast 3000BCE. As excavations are still going on and more evidences are being found and the similarities in both scripts are being studied and analysed. And i hope you make another video about this in the future and dont forget to mention me if what i said really happen.
Hi how can I contact you about identifying a language on a tablet?
Great video and it’s nice to see you back! P.I.E. was spoken in the steppes of Ukraine and southern Russia however, not the Caucasus
The steppe theory has many flaws too that's why it's still a "theory"
we still don't know for sure where they came from, but either theory are basically the best information we have on that topic
TAMIL is the oldest Lang , first language on earth ,but If u need more proof archeological department need to do a research on , KUMARIKANDAM , Kms under water surpassing Sri Lanka , that's were u will know the age of Tamil Language and u will be surprised.
Have you done the research going under water ?
@@sandesha1307 nice but its difficult
@@YogeshKumar-pm4fl my question is anyone has done the research going under water ?? Everyone saying oldest language proof is under water if no one has gone how come these ppl came to know ??🤷
@@sandesha1307 It was a myth or something i am not sure that the Kumarikandam was deatroyed by natural disasters or something we dunno but it has been told that the Kumarikandam joins India with Australia
ruclips.net/video/sZ3_zCzupLM/видео.html
You came with keeladi civilization. But you forgot or didn't get the sivagalai civilization.
Was it oldest
This theory is just the fruit of some Tamil nationalism because of the dominance of the Hindi language in India. All languages evolve through time, they don't appear out of the blue. Tamil is not the first language and even in its actual form it is not the oldest language because it would mean that it hasn't evolved at all in centuries or even millenia which is a ridiculous idea.
//This was a reply to one of the previous commenters//
*Politics and the Language preservation*
Yes the language was free of political influences. But it was mostly down to the Tamil kings who,
even at those times itself had enormous pride towards the language than the land.
_The three clans MOOVENDHAR(Meaning: Moo-Three Vendhar-Kings)
There were three clans of Big Kings that ruled this land.
All three had their priority towards the language set. The poets of other kingdoms were welcome in another despite of
the differences between the three. Often the talks to avoid wars were by the poets rather than their ministers.
We know these because of our ancient literatures.
Our literatures are also well formulated..
A lot of the stories about the kings were from PURANAANOORU (Puram+NAANOORU = OUT+400)
This puranaanooru is based on qualities of a person that are af great outer* value like Valor, Honesty, Mercy etc.,
The 400 songs are collection of works by individual poets affiliated to different kingdoms. They tell the story about their deeds.
Similarly there is Aganaanooru (Agam + Naanooru = IN + 400).
This work is based on inner and more personal values like Love, Self discipline.
The Aganaanooru contains works (400 poems) that describe the daily lifestyle of common people.
Then there are more bigger works like AinguruKapiyam and Ainperugapiyam.
Aingurngapiyam => ainthu(5) + kuru (small) + kappiyam(epic)
Aiperungapiyam => ainthu(5) + perum(big) + kappiyam(epic)
Both of them combinedly has 10 great epics of Tamil. All these are from the "sangam" era.
The Sangam Era:
Sangam(court) - where literary works are published under critiques,
often peers of the poets from all the Tamil kingdoms(the major three and minor kingdoms)
It was the golden age of tamil Literature. There were three great sangams.
=> Mudhal Sangam(The first Sangam)Lasted ~5000 Years
=> Idai Sangam (The Middle Sangam)Lasted ~4000 years
=> Kadai sangam (The Last Sangam)lasted ~2000 years
Periods might overlap*
Wiki on Sangam en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangam_period#:~:text=According%20to%20Tamil%20legends%2C%20there,the%20first%20two%20being%20legendary.
All these three are way older. Most of our literatures are from the middle one and the last one.
With there being mentions of the first one in many of the works. Literally our literature could date back
way longer than 10000 years. That is why many of the Tamils believe that our language is the first one.
But the time periods can't be proved accurate scientifically.
Only way it can be proved is like the mention of the names of the kings from Puranaanooru in Culverts(Inscriptions).
This method has only proved that the last sangam was about 2500 yrs old,
by the discovery of a inscription containing the name of a Tamil king mentioned in Puranaanooru which was from the Last sangam.
The Inscription was carbon dated and the period was approximated. More than 80 - 90 percent of Culverts
discovered all over India is in Tamil Brahmi a.k.a Tamizhi, which was a older Tamil Script.
You could have a go at this Documentary series. It has 8 episode from the 3rd video of the playlist:
ruclips.net/p/PLAU5iw78o0yv43YbcdHV9bWqMIkVANXnf
This can give an overview on Tamil.
Current Political Scenario:
1)Aryan:
Tamil is so different. It stands out among Indian languages, it's people are also different. There are lots of theories out there in Anthropology and Linguistics.
The aryan invasion theory which is globally accepted is frowned upon in India except by Tamils. This implies that Sanskrit which is from Proto Indo-European language is an outsider.
Which contradicts the political motivation of the majority of Central Government parties (Right winged) in India. For them India is for Indians (Indians = Hindus).
Muslims should be in Pakistan. India should be a Hindu nation upholding Aryan Vedic values. AIT(Aryan Invasion Theory) makes them outsiders too.
So they oppose it in the Indian political scene by stating that it is a Christian British propaganda to divide Indians into Aryans and Dravidians while there is divide as such.
2)Dravidian/Tamil:
At the same time AIT makes Tamils(Dravidians) the most native people and relates them with Indus valley civilization( you might get some info on it in the above mentioned playlist).
But This also has its extremist effects. Many Tamils are made to believe that "there was no Dravidians but Tamils, Tamil is the Oldest language.",
disregarding the linguistics (language evolution theory which implies there must me a proto language that was not Tamil).
Effect on This on Tamil:
1) If the central government goes on disregarding AIT, upholds the Hindu nationalism. That's the death of Tamil. Because Hindi is spoken by majority of people in India. Hindi is for Hindus like Urdu is for Pakistanis.
The will impose Hindi in every thing. Every Examination, Government documents would be in Hindi only. Now it is in Hindi and English. Only state docs and exams are in state language like Tamil.
If this happens people would be forced to learn Hindi. It is an indirect imposition.
People would not learn Tamil as a college degree which will not give them bread and butter.
This has started to happen now.
2)The Tamil nationalism at the most could result in separate country for Tamils ( Which is impossible).
But if it happens the Tamil country could do well. Because TamilNadu is one of the top 3 stated (most developed) in India. It could be the next south Korea.
But India will become a player, there would be border clashes, resource distribution problem etc.,
But it will have a healthy environment for the language.
But the environment where the language could thrive can be provide by the Indian(central) government itself.
India's beauty is in it's diversity. It is like Europe.
For every sate border you cross in India you will feel tlike you are in a different country.
The central government can be of the form of European Union.
That would help the diversity and Unity. But for that the government should be liberal and not lean to the far Right.
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Ultimately Tamil is facing its biggest threat only now (It might not seem so). That is why you can see triggered Tamils all over the internet.
There is a 2000 year old saying from puranaanooru. It is as follows..
Yaadhum OOre, Yaavarum Kelir. [Yadhum - everything / everywhere ; OOre - Country ; Yaavrum - Every one; Kelir - Relative ]
If you want to know how it sounds. watch this. It is a snippet from the speech of former Indian president APJ Abdul Kalam (a Tamil) in the European parliament.
" Everywhere is our neighborhood, Every one is our relative "
Tamil literatures are not that religious. Only later modern literatures from 19th century became religious.
For Tamils religion, race, caste, creed doesn't matter. They are one in the sense that they a Tamil [ but not for politically polluted ones ]
//This was a reply to one of the previous commenters.//
*"It has conserved its structure for the past 5000 years and it's past self is the same an the current one."*
1) Your comment is was underlining that *no language is the same as its past self*. It changes over time and branches into dialects,
so you can't claim that the currently spoken language as the one that was spoken long ago."
For this you have given a lot of analogies
like Chinese and its dialects, Hindi and Sanskrit and now Italian and Latin (as I mentioned it).
My argument was,
_Did Tamil change? yes_, but..
In the case of Tamil "*it has conserved its form*",
---->Yes, it has and had dialects, Yes, it evolved, but _the Parent language is still the same and alive._
All the changes it endured due to geographical and political causes has transformed its oldest dialects into new distinct languages,
like Malayalam, Telugu, Kannada and much more (may be similar to the dialects of Chinese intelligible for mandarin speakers).
"*_But the root language Tamil as survived_*" unlike Sanskrit, Latin etc., Don't forget that it is one of the Classical Languages of the world.
_Is Tamil the same as its past self? yes.,_
_Was it "TAMIL" for all those times? YES..!_
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(*You will not understand*)
You probably are a speaker of one of the Germanic languages most probably English.
The oldest literature you might learn in your high school could be Shakespeare's.
===>But what we learn is literature that is more than 2000 years old which was highly refined "grammatically and philosophically" at that time itself.
*_The oldest grammar book written in Tamil is 2500 years old (Tholkapiyam)_***. *It is the same grammar that we follow till now.*
The author 0f Tholkapiyam has stated that it was the v2 of the original book (Agathiyam) which unfortunately we don't have.
You as a follower of linguistic channels must know that grammar of a language comes later in the evolution process of a language. Which makes that, "Tamil might be(has been) spoken even before that".
Thus you will not understand the emotion of it's speakers.
===============This was the Bragging=================
2)*Arabic speakers, Icelanders, Chinese can understand their older form*:
=======> That is cool. If you think that I am unaware of it, it is not my problem. This statement has nothing to do with tha "argument" here.
It is like, "Hey look Tamil speaker! Don't go overboard thinking that you alone can understand an ancient language. Some language speakers does too."
---Wtf man..! *Should I be jealous now*.
By the way it is not the same in the case of Tamil. Because the grammar that we follow itself is older. It is more than the comprehension of the Poetic Edda or Classical Arabic.
That is not unique to Tamil: *Nah...!It is unique.*
3)*That guy did nothing wrong:*
I already said that ====="*You won't understand*"========
_"don’t go out of your way to find videos about Tamil and attack"_
If you feel so I am not responsible. It might be the RUclips algorithm. By the way I did not "search" for this video.
I have been a silent follower of this channel for a long time now. This is the first video where I am commenting.
_" It makes Tamils look bad "_
Out of 10000000 speakers there are people who think tamil is the oldest language. I can't blame them for not being linguists.
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*Do I believe Tamil is the first ever language that homosapiens spoke?*
=====> *No*.
But I am proud of it. It is not the same as other languages of the world.
It is the same as it was 5000 years ago even older (If Indus scripts are deciphered, The age might be pushed back even further)
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*This guy did do wrong*
(0:58)I know this is on the same page as I am, But I can feel the sarcasm and derogation in the video
(for Tamils looked bad as you said when some claimed and claim that It is the oldest language)
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If really want to know why Tamils are so proud of their language, you can watch this *documentary series (_TAMIZHI_)*. It has english subs.
ruclips.net/p/PLAU5iw78o0yv43YbcdHV9bWqMIkVANXnf
This has eight episodes starting from the third video.
*DO NOT READ the comments*. Otherwise Tamils will look bad to you.
It is called Tamil supremacism, a result of Dravidian politics
@@gurunandhaelamezhagan4544 as you mentioned about the sangam literature are you sure it is 4000 BC years old or 4000 BP old because most of the dates measured by archeologists in South India is based on BP(before present),then the dates would go to 2000BC so,that contradicts with the oldest language
@@tritrios Yes I am sure. The 2000 yrs or the 2500 yrs thing is because most of literature that we currently have are from the Kadai Sangam ( The last Sangam). The Kadai Sangam is the third Sangam as per the literature. There are numerous mentions previous two sangams which date further back.
Nobody is saying tamil is the 1 st language in the world but it is definitely one of the oldest surviving language in the world. We have softwares in Tamizh(tamil) , we still speak and can understand the tamil spoken nearly 2000 years ago.
@Nikos hr what is your problem?I am entitled to my opinion as you are entitled to yours. I didn't say a single word about the culture, I am talking only about the language. Don't be a bully. If you don't like tamizh well and good. Nobody is forcing it upon you. Why are you also tearing down other languages?
@Nikos hr there are languages older than tamizh, but they went in and out of usage and where revived at somepoint. But tamizh has been in continous usage for the past 2300 years(oldest Tamil brami script 300 BCE) .
Chinese and Greek are still far older than Tamil, and they are still spoken.
@Nikos Tamils have history more than 12000 years. But we are unfortunate that the Indian government itself is not interested in researching our Tamils history. Because it is politically cornered. U have to understand India's complex political, race language system first.
Tamils were the first sea - farers in the world. Not arabic or greek or Chinese. We're sea farers for more than 4000 years. See Mr. Orissa balu's video about Australian aborigines.
And I strongly think without a language u cannot communicate to build a ship .
I see many people saying that it's the Oldest Language ever. Not just the oldest living Language, and there are a few living Languages older than Tamil as well.
Some in the comments are claiming that humans evolved in Tamil Nadu. Don't waste your breath, no amount of evidence would convince them.
@Rainy Days Offer what? no one is offering anything. It is interesting how you think I'm white. Humans evolved in Africa period. Now call me black and insult me a gain, show everyone that you are just a plain old racist.
Tamil is everything, TAMILAN DAW
Not Tamil language fanatics embarrassing themselves again! I'm sorry for what you had to go through man ;(
Bro u need more research about Tamil
Still u don't know about Tamil
If u think Egyptn language is older than Tamil then how Tamil and Egyptians did navy sea contact
And also Rome
Adichanallur research is more important
The name permit is a tamil language "peru + edu - periya edukadu " & lots of tamil people's are kings Egypt and it's scientifically proven
GR Bonding true
உலகின் மூத்தமொழி எங்கள் தமிழ்மொழி தமிழ் எங்கள் உயிர் தமிழுக்கு அமுதென்று பேர் இன்பத்தமிழ் எங்கள் உயிருக்கு நேர்
You have done fantastic research about languages
can you able to make a video abt 3500BCE Sumerian and similarities between others?
because here we can see the word Sumerian itself in Tamil's root word (Ma-மா) Ma means - measures things in several ways, for more information pls : ruclips.net/video/_BCwcIzsJVM/видео.html
In ancient tamil scriptures the word Meru used in many places Meru indicates higher, bigger mountain top etc
( pronounce mea as may)
In tamil we still commonly use similar words starts frm "Mea"மே (meale - top) (meal - better), (Meagam -clouds) (measai - desktop) (mearku - west) and so on and if you look at the places in ancient (Ku- Meru - now Kumari)
(KashMeru - now Kashmir) like that can you pls elaborate Sumerian? With the root word of any other ancient language? We Tamils atleast hypothetically understand who Sumerians are ! Thank you.
This is good reply for this video because some people not agree with that, even him also.
one more thing, What is the link between Indus valley Harappan And the thousands of miles down south in keezhadi tamilnadu ? ...Tamizhi or Tamil Brahmi inscriptions found in keezhadi excavation, the most interesting part is Graffiti Symbols and Signs inscribed jointly with Tamizhi Alphabet , those hundreds of graffiti symbols exactly matches with Indus Valley Harappan Graffiti Symbols! How ? Want more ? just see the results of Rakhighari's DNA (Harappan civilization) !! day will come soon to prove scientifically authentically the whole civilization is one.
Thank you
@@abdul54143 hindu is way older than Islam will you convert now 😂😂
@@chidambaranathans1975
ruclips.net/video/PW0mSy3Rlws/видео.html
@@abdul54143 being a student of philosophy the video you showed is something called as cultural digestion . Let me explain it to you PUJA and GOPORAM has a practical significance but now to convert people you use that aspects and incorporate into yourself without understanding essence then it becomes a ritual and boom next generation can't understand it.
Follow Islam but please don't forget your hindu civilizational roots .
I WAS JUST LIKE YOU A BY-PRODUCT OF A CONVENT SCHOOL but now I am understanding the play.
Glad to know that the mother of our language is the oldest language in the world😊😊
Nhh oldest surviving language
Tamil Not only word × its a Emotion .. தமிழ் ஒருவரை சாந்தப்படுத்தும் . ரொளத்திரத்தியும் பழக்கும் ..❤
Super bro
I will never agree to his point that Tamil is not the oldest language
There were 3 Sangams ( Institutions) that organised Tamil lingua franca
1st Tamil ( Sangam) Institutional gathering
Happened 4440 years of time span which was founded by god Shiva (El shadai god mentioned by Jews) himself { ended due to flood}
2nd Tamil ( Sangam) Institutional gathering happened 3700 years of time span which was founded by god Murugan ( Tamuz of Sumeria)
{ Ended due to Maha bharat war}
3rd Tamil Sangam ( institutional gathering) was organised by Vishnu which extended with time span of 1850 years { ended due to kalabhra war on Tamils land}
Totally
4440+3700+1850 = 9990 years
Total time span of all Tamil Sangam are 9990 years
Flood occurred 10,000 years ago
So 10,000 + 4440 = 14440 ~ 15,000 years ago 1st Tamil Sangam Institutional gathering happened
Maha bharat happened 5150 years ago
+ Time span of 2nd Tamil Sangam Institutional gathering is 3700 years
= 5150+3700 = 8850 years ago 2nd Tamil Sangam Institutional gathering happened
3rd Tamil Sangam Institutional gathering ended exactly by archaeological evidence as 250 A.D
So 1850-250 = 1600 B.C
So 3rd Tamil Sangam Institutional gathering happened 3600 years ago
At least we have 20,000 years of history,
Sumerian is archaic Tamil
Research article
arutkural.tripod.com/sumstudies/sum-as-arch-tamil.htm
You tube link
ruclips.net/video/JYGWUv5Zhnw/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/GC4N6m4mP4I/видео.html
Elamite cananite & Egyptian everything is different time form of Tamil
@Varen kulkarni we have our root words & base words which date back to cave man
Iam open minded my literature won't say a lie to me,
"The sentence Tamil was spoken only 2600 years ago" makes ur northy thought 💭 out
First u should be open minded
If it has a lush literature it would take mileniums ago to be born
@Varen kulkarni I read ur comment already
@Varen kulkarni who doesn't have intellectual ability,
U deny ur word that u previously said , my god, may god bless u
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Tamil is the oldest language in the world...
I am a tamilan but have a hard time reading tamil. Edit: Now I became better.
If we say that many languages have Tamil words, isn't that possible that Tamil has words from another languages.
PLEASE DONT CALCULATE THE AGE OF TAMIL JUST WITH KEELADI...RESEARCH IN KUMARI KANDAM THEN U WILL GET TO KNOW MANY SHOCKING INFORMATION ABOUT TAMIL...🔥🔥🔥தமிழ்🔥🔥🔥
@Varen kulkarni I ACCEPT YOUR POINTS...BUT KUMARI KANDAM IS NOT A MYTH...SOON EVERY ONE WILL COME TO KNOW ABOUT...THERE ARE STRONG POINTS TO SAY KUMARI KANDAM WAS THERE BUT OUR GOVERNMENT DID NOT MIND IT...SOON RESEARCHES SHOULD BE DONE THERE
@Varen kulkarni for ur info Sumeria which is also a Tamizh word..."Meru" means Mountain in ancient Tamil language..and there are tons and tons of similarities with Tamizh and Sumerian Culture...even I too thought it was a fake one...but looking at the similarity I was literally shocked!
One of the Useful Video in RUclips... Thanks for making this video.🙏
One of the more interesting videos I've seen recently. Thanks.
Mygoodness the amount of people assuming that a certain language is the oldest is just awful.
Let me start off with this, languages cannot have an age language is in a constant state of evolution and the ancestor of every language spoken today have existed in every points of history meaning they are all equally “old”.
An article could determine dates of written languages but the problem with it is that written language can be different in spoken language, dates of written a language does not determine the date of when was that written language began to be spoken by its speakers.
Tamil might be the oldest language of the world, but English will always be the king of all languages! 😎👑
@SIDDHAARTH MANIAN exactly! Telugu is so sweet, tamil is a piece of crap compared to other languages. I wish my mother tongue wasn’t Tamil 😅😢 it’s torture and embarrassing
@@Firetech2004 If ur mother tongue was tamil, u would have said today that tamil is the sweetest language. Since becoz u like ur mother tongue and u don't know anything about tamil language, it doesn't mean that u can make fun of other languages. Tamil is the sweetest in the world.
@@sganesh8552 yenna soldringa? Yennoda thaai mozhi Tamizh Daan.
But you know why I use English, you earn respect when you talk in English 😎
Tamil is too difficult to speak read understand and write. Idk how my family members can speak Tamil fluently but I can’t. Maybe it’s because I grew up speaking more English than Tamil
Which language the Indus people spoke? Indus script is not deciphered yet. May be that will throw more light on the linguistic antiquity of Indians.
It is proved that it is a dravidian language...The keezhadi excavation site shows connection with the indus valley...as they find similar writing scripts in keezhadi...it could be Tamil or Tamil evolved from the Indus valley language
@@இளஞ்சென்னி yeah read about that. There are some graffiti symbols which are matching. Still research is at early stage long way to go to prove. Nevertheless no other language family or culture can come close to Indus other than Dravidian.
Indus people spoke Bhramic
@@lovekush9103 😂😂😂nice joke like government and media
@@lovekush9103 sorry bhrami is a word which was named by Aryans it is Tamizhi or Pragrita
The oldest literary record we have for Tamil, the Tolkappiyam and the Sangam texts is about 300BC. The oldest available Tamil writing is from Keezhadi excavation, 600BC. So the oldest record we have for Tamil writing is about 2600 years only. Adichanallur excavation shows settled civilization going back to 950BC but no evidence of writing. This makes Tamil ONE OF the oldest surviving languages in the world but it does not make it THE OLDEST or even THE FIRST language. There are other languages which are older than Tamil notably Egyptian and Sumerian. Present day Tamil speakers both native and non-native need to first have an open mind when speaking about history. What many fail to realise is that the ancestors of the present day Tamils could have even spoken different languages during different period and those languages could have gone extinct. On other words, we have been using Tamil to communicate for the last 2600 years only. What language we spoke before that or what we will speak 3000 years from now is unknown. The same goes to any other human societies in this planet.
You are telling the truth in a precise and beautiful way. Keep it up
You have mentioned about Tolkappiyam and it's not just an ordinary book with Tamil words. It is a book that contains grammar rules of the language and a well defined language don't get created in a single day. Keezhadi excavations results shows us that there are tamil writings in clay pots which are used by women. It is not a present day situation where almost every people have access to education. People had been well taught and mostly everyone had access to them without discrimination and it can happen only in a well developed civilisation.
@@mdeepak
History is all about evidence and not assumption. Our evidence is only 2600 years of written record. Until we can find older evidence, we must not make assumptions. Presently Tamil writing is not the oldest writing. There are others much older. Spoken Tamil is also not the oldest language. Therefore, claims of Tamil being oldest is illogical and not supported by any evidence.
Sir have confirmed these facts from archaeologist . I am archaeologist. Let me show you oldest sanskrit word not script found in khoi script Found by bhu professor D.p. sharma
Now another interesting facts khoi script contains two one is Indus script another is khoi script which symbol like brahmi and have sanskrit word. According to Tamil tradition lord Shiva and vedic sage Agastya use sanskrit words to make Tamil language'.. according to dna data nor Dravidian existed. Every one lived in north India and latter shifted due to river decline and climate changes. ...if u need more evidence I will provide u. Rigveda according to Griffith, bb lal, tilak is 9000bce means writing is 9000bce than language much older than writing.. and this is scientific data u can ignore few facts but not with science.
@@SharmalanThevar i didn't made any assumptions. Are you telling that Tamil developed just 2600 years ago without any time for development. You are mentioning the oldest written evidence. Please tell me whether any other language have rich literary works from the past. You must understand how long does it take for a language to evolve.
First to comment! Actually Tamil is related to Sumerian. And Sumerian is ancient so I see why Tamils feel proud with their language. Actually Tamil merchants were building trans-oceanic trade networks way before the Euros
They are the speakers of one of the oldest language. They are bound to be proud.
Source on Sumerian and Tamil being related to each other.
I'm unaware of any research proving a link between Sumerian and any other language. Can you supply a link to such evidence?
@@thehybrid4608 the word Sumerian is itself an Tamil word that is an much bigger proof. Other than that there are a lot of evidences.
@@vervelshrp5793 u upvoted your own comment. Lol.
What does Sumerian means in tamil?
Wait and watch bro we will prove Tamil language old language in the world
Waiting
Not just english,
Russian, Chinese, Korean languages got plenty words similar with closest references!
Kundi - A$$ - Korean
Arbuz - Watermelon - Russian
Ni - You - Pinyin,
Go find out more, Im not getting "({[]})" paid for this 😏
I'm Tamil. Tamil is ONE OF THE Oldest Languages. But a lot of here us believe that it was the first proto-human language, due to the references we have in Sangam literature. Sadly there aren't much scientific evidences to prove this. Unless or until we do a deep dive into the Keezhadi & Adichanallur cases we wouldn't know. And the Central Government of India would never want to support or fund the excavations or research for their political benefits.
But here is the thing... FACT CHECK: தமிழ் (Tamil) is a CLASSICAL language and the only one that's still in practice in both oral & written forms. And I hope you'll do a research about G.U.Pope he knows better 😉
Thanks for the very objective and respectful comment.
THAMIZH is mother for us and to all languages ❤️
Tamil is not only the world's first language more than that my mother language is hearable on universe . Recently researchers identified that the sound from the sun is a tamil word ஓம் "ohm" and the scientists got nobel prize for identified this❤️ so please research better & make a better pure truth video ❤️
Will you decode this book called Tholkaapiyam? Find its origin. What it speaks about? Who wrote it? And much more.
💪💪💪💪தமிழன்டா💪💪💪
தமிழ்....🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
தமிழன் என்பதில் பெருமிதம் கொள்கிறேன்.. proud to be tamizhan..❤️
First language was probably cavemen saying "GuGuh gahgah...Blerghh"
Language is meant for communication not for blabbering...
@Invictus Animus alright I accept my defeat!🥴 Boomer
Or aaaa eeee and uuuu which are the common sounds of mammals , which is also the first three vowels of Tamil , then comes the aee ooo which are uncommon, and then aii and ouu very rare
Tamil is Father and Mother of all languages in the world.
Language evolution is essentially exactly the same as biological evolution. Everything is in a constant state of flux.
"Normal" evolution? What's "normal" evolution?
Being an Indian I support you because you are fighting facts not Tamil but Tamil belief(ego) even shiv does not agree with tamil on this thing because shiv is not ego
all the things and living being are evolving day by day..so a good language also should evolve along with time..but we read those 2000 years old scripts in our school books..without understanding how i can read that..shapes of letters changes but meaning remain same
I agree
Being a Tamilan I would say the fact is sanskrit is the language spoken by God and tamil is the oldest language spoken on earth even Tamil scholars like kamban who wrote many Tamil literature has mixed Tamil and sanskrit words
Jambudveepa untold mysteries of Mothers of all languages
The oldest languages in the world are Sanskrit, Tamil and Kannada. Kannada and Sanskrit mantras worship God. Most Tamil speakers practice all over the world. In ancient Vedic culture the queens of all languages were Tamil and Kannada. Sanskrit is the mother tongue of all languages. Tamil Kannada and Sanskrit are the pillars of all languages around the world.
A huge thanks to you!✨
Thalaippu paarthu like poda vendaam
Correctly said this guy is insulting us Tamils....
Thank u for making this video 🙏
Old language != first language. The first language likely went extinct long ago (that is, if there was even a first language and not various languages that sprung up independently throughout the world).
@lion fish please don't pull the bible crap here. Christianity is a good religion to follow but neither everything happened in it is true nor its the only 'true religion'.
And Tamils say Tamil is the first one , cause of the words’ relation ships with hunter gatherer life style and nature
There is no such thing as an "old language", because languages have no age. They slowly evolve from previous languages.
The first language itself probably evolved and chagned, and then diverged as humans started moving away from each other.
The question of whether languages sprung up independently is hard to answer, of course. Seeing as language likely evolved alongside human evolution, the question would be if there are different branches of human species that all evolved languages separately, e.g. Neanderthals etc.
@@jeyaramsathees6128every other language have words related to early lifestyles, not just Tamil.
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Bro , I am from tamilnadu ,i thing that tamil is oldest language and as it's my mother tongue , I got new angle of thought because you say that all language are oldest . But you know people in tamil nadu saying that tamil is 40000 years oldest language because of lemoria continent which is destroyed by natural calamities . The proof that we have is some oldest book that has noted this destroyed continent called Kumari kandam . Can u post a video on kumari kandam
Are you fool Tamil is shit language ivc don't even use Tamil give evidence not myth
In Egypt also have some Tamil words available like "ANNAI" with a meaning of mother. Still this word used by Tamil people. We have evidence for business with Sumerian people. Lot Chinese places with tamil names still with same meaning
Tamil love to be tamilan
What ever you say tamil is first language or not but our love and respect on tamil is endless because tamil is my mother language
The name permit is a tamil language "peru + etu - periya edukadu " permit doned the same purpose what edukadu doing still now & lots of tamil people's are kings in Egypt on ancient times and it's scientifically proven & their bodys also identified on permit so please research well or don't make about our language with your silly reaction & sorry if I hated you👍❤️
Hey guys i searched which is the first launguage in world it came tamil I was proud to be a tamilan at the same time when I searched which is the first language in india it came sanskrit 🙁even though every country in world accepted but our india didn't ready to allow if u have doubt in me you guys itself search which is first in india
Sanskrit is dead brother but Tamil is alive💕
@@jJo663 um... well its not completely dead... there are places where ppl speak sanskrit...
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Dei! Are u teasing us! 😂
😂 Enna dhan irundhalum tamil na gethu dha
@@jJo663 😃👍
I am not going to debate saying Tamil is the oldest language in world. As a Tamil speaker I always astonished by its scripture and literature contents than its age. I don't mind if linguistic researchers proves that Tamil language is not old, as long as Tamil speakers prevent their beautiful literature contents which was selfless, non religious and teaches the people good qualities. Proud to be Tamil speaker when the world declare "THIRUKURAL" as worldly accepted scripture ever and non religious highly translated scripture in the World. Our ancestors wants to preserve Tamil language because of these selfless scriptures to reach people and help the world. As long as we speak Tamil and preserve it, one day Tamil would be language that saves future.
Saying that all languages are the oldest languages is like saying that all humans are the oldest humans since we all evolved from the same common ancestor. In reality, Italian is younger than Latin, like you're younger than your father.
He think he can dilute matters... Then you guys should not do researching history and languages, without considering controversial topic which is oldest... It is equivalent to human history of thinking and communicating... The best answers can be we can't say the oldest language, but we can compare and sort all the known languages, right? In that one language must come first, but you should also give space to other languages... Many languages requires serious support... It is our fate to be in caught up in Indian, Sri Lankan and World politics in favour of Sanskrit, for which there isn't much proof...
Thank you brother.நன்றி .I'm from Sri Lanka