I keep wondering if Brooke's father abandoning their family when she was younger affected her and made her desperate to look for love and when she found love became determined and maybe even obsessed not to lose it.
@@aph1976 I'm sure that was a factor, but it surely didn't make it OK for her to blow like a hurricane thru any relationship she felt like bc she "loved" that man at that point in time and had to have him. No matter who else it hurt. She should have gotten professional help a long time ago.
Expected nothing less ❤ 😭 BTW @AnnieO .. I watched a clip with SF's farewell with her family when Steph was leaving the house, never to return. Her acting and speech... ❤️❤️She made me cry then, too. I think some cast members were also genuinely crying (maybe at the thought of never acting with her again.)
@@TriniT21 Plus maybe her co-stars were crying because with Susan Flannery retiring it might have been the last time they would see her for awhile and maybe ever.
SO moving. I know the episodes with Stephanie and Brooke at the cabin is what won her the Emmy but she could've just as easily submitted this too. What an actress! This show doesn't have a powerful core like this anymore.
@@NewYorkNick0607 no it doesn't. Which is why all the stories since Steph "died" and esp now, just feel like ships drifting at sea and hoping they find land somewhere, sometime... As an aside, I try to think of who on YR I felt this way towards. There wasn't anyone as powerful on screen on YR, as Steph was on BB...(Altho there are a lot of similarities between Victor Newman and Steph Forrester). But the person whose actual death brought tears to my eyes and I still miss, was Jeanne Cooper as Katherine Chancellor. I really loved JC's acting
@@TriniT21 Susan is really a singular talent and at the very top for me (if we're talking all the actors on Bill Bell's two soaps). But for me Eric Braeden, Peter Bergman and Jess Walton were almost at that tippy top with Susan and Jeanne Cooper, Heather Tom, Victoria Rowell, Tricia Cast, and Michelle Stafford weren't far behind. B&B had the number 1 greatest actor in Susan but overall Y&R had a much stronger cast of actors than B&B.
I recently rewatched the clip of Susan winning her first Emmy for B&B and I was struck by how so many people even from other shows were happy for her. All her competitors _who she beat_ were standing and applauding, as well as the entire Y&R cast! It really shows how respected and admired she was, and not just among her B&B castmates. Also love how Bobbie and Windsor erupt with joy when they see her name in the envelope and Windsor gets down on his knees to present her the Emmy as if she's a literal queen. 🙌 👑
@@NewYorkNick0607I've seen that clip too, it's so heartwarming because of how genuinely happy everyone is for Susan (Bobbie and Winsor react as if _they_ just won the Emmy). Was this really her first Emmy for B&B? If so, I can't believe it took so long - she had been consistently stellar on the show for over a decade.
*Stephanie as Storyteller in this storyline* Stephanie is usually a reliable narrator/Storyteller on the show, but here the show is trying to challenge that by deliberately having her _not_ know what is going on, and _not_ fully being able to control the plot (or even her own body), and it has some odd effects. For example, in the missing episode 3165, Stephanie was talking to Thorne and Macy and commenting on how the stroke had made her see things "as they really are, as if a veil had been lifted", and that what she was was how the two of them love each other. This highlights what I've been saying about the show's unreliable narrative - the way the show is written now, we are meant to see Stephanie as being wrong and unaware of what is really going on. In retrospect, however, it is _Stephanie_ who is proven right and _the show itself_ is revealed to be "wrong". Stephanie, the show's strongest Storyteller, is in conflict with the show's "Invisible Narrator".
Brooke is asking about the state of Steph's health, not bc she actually cares one iota about that, but bc she needs Steph to hurry on up and get better so Brooke can get on with her newest conquest.. I mean.. Love
@@ministryofwrongthink9847 is Trish still there? By now they should have made her CEO. I have always said Brooke really never cared about Forrester creations, other than a hunting ground for Forrester men, keeping close to Ridge esp, and a way to hold something over Steph.
It's more like who all were already in her. Thats more the reason why he should not entertain fooling around with her. But hey, the Forrester men and Logan women don't care, they taking turns with each other.
poor Stephanie she is in a disaster and Thorne all he cares about is caring on with Brooke the man lost his mind thank God for Eric he is such a bless Stephanie needs him specially in this difficult time in her life
Ha! Good catch! Though this time she's not looking in enviously at a couple. Except of course that Stephanie stands for the ideal union of Thorne and Macy. In fact, this ties in to your other post about Stephanie's narration conflicting with the show's invisible narrator. One way to read Stephanie's "wrong" image of Thorne and Macy is that she is still pushing for them to be the aspirational couple and she represents the threat of that aspiration for Brooke.
@@NewYorkNick0607 absolutely! To me, the "friction" between the two narratives is so strong now that it can be felt in every scene of this storyline. And one of the things that causes the most friction is the fact that those people who seem the most in the dark, like Stephanie, are the ones who are actually proven to be _right_ in the end - but only after they are first seemingly proven _wrong._ Also when you say that Stephanie stands for the ideal union between Thorne and Macy, this reinforces the _incredibly_ close connection between Stephanie's and Macy's trajectories throughout this storyline. Finding out about Brooke and Thorne causes Stephanie to have a health crisis, which in turn leads to her being unable to handle the stress of facing the two of them as a couple without literally dying. This is _exactly_ mirrored in Macy about six months later (only with a worse outcome, because while Brooke in both cases wants to reveal the "dangerous secret" that neither woman can survive, Thorne doesn't listen to her the first time but he _does_ the second time). Because of these parallels, it does feel like this storyline as a whole may already have been outlined here (also, it begins _and_ ends with a dramatic confrontation in Big Bear). It's a structurally satisfying twist (although somewhat at the expense of characterization) because what is foreshadowed to happen to Stephanie happens to Macy _instead._ They occupy the same plot space in this storyline.
Omg when Stephanie started breaking down that was heartbreaking 😟😭.
ye shse does not desrve this
Ridge saying what we’ve all been saying since 1987 “Brooke is desperate “😂😂
😂😂😂
Hallelujah 🙌
I keep wondering if Brooke's father abandoning their family when she was younger affected her and made her desperate to look for love and when she found love became determined and maybe even obsessed not to lose it.
Who talks loudly on a plane to themselves and like a mad woman too??
@@aph1976 I'm sure that was a factor, but it surely didn't make it OK for her to blow like a hurricane thru any relationship she felt like bc she "loved" that man at that point in time and had to have him. No matter who else it hurt.
She should have gotten professional help a long time ago.
Wow, that was a _powerful_ performance by Susan Flannery! 👏👏👏😭
Expected nothing less ❤
😭
BTW @AnnieO .. I watched a clip with SF's farewell with her family when Steph was leaving the house, never to return. Her acting and speech... ❤️❤️She made me cry then, too. I think some cast members were also genuinely crying (maybe at the thought of never acting with her again.)
@@TriniT21 Plus maybe her co-stars were crying because with Susan Flannery retiring it might have been the last time they would see her for awhile and maybe ever.
SO moving. I know the episodes with Stephanie and Brooke at the cabin is what won her the Emmy but she could've just as easily submitted this too. What an actress! This show doesn't have a powerful core like this anymore.
@@NewYorkNick0607 no it doesn't. Which is why all the stories since Steph "died" and esp now, just feel like ships drifting at sea and hoping they find land somewhere, sometime...
As an aside, I try to think of who on YR I felt this way towards. There wasn't anyone as powerful on screen on YR, as Steph was on BB...(Altho there are a lot of similarities between Victor Newman and Steph Forrester).
But the person whose actual death brought tears to my eyes and I still miss, was Jeanne Cooper as Katherine Chancellor. I really loved JC's acting
@@TriniT21 Susan is really a singular talent and at the very top for me (if we're talking all the actors on Bill Bell's two soaps). But for me Eric Braeden, Peter Bergman and Jess Walton were almost at that tippy top with Susan and Jeanne Cooper, Heather Tom, Victoria Rowell, Tricia Cast, and Michelle Stafford weren't far behind. B&B had the number 1 greatest actor in Susan but overall Y&R had a much stronger cast of actors than B&B.
Susan Flannery putting on a master class in this episode!
Why did Susan Flannery leave the show? She was very good on the show.
@dlcalbaugh my understanding is she was just ready to leave
she melted my heart
Susan Flannery can act 😭😭
She is the bawse and queen of daytime tv 👑👑
Susan flannery is the queen of b&b. The heart and soul. She was the absolute best. She was on another level of acting skills and Talent.
I recently rewatched the clip of Susan winning her first Emmy for B&B and I was struck by how so many people even from other shows were happy for her. All her competitors _who she beat_ were standing and applauding, as well as the entire Y&R cast! It really shows how respected and admired she was, and not just among her B&B castmates. Also love how Bobbie and Windsor erupt with joy when they see her name in the envelope and Windsor gets down on his knees to present her the Emmy as if she's a literal queen. 🙌 👑
@@NewYorkNick0607I've seen that clip too, it's so heartwarming because of how genuinely happy everyone is for Susan (Bobbie and Winsor react as if _they_ just won the Emmy). Was this really her first Emmy for B&B? If so, I can't believe it took so long - she had been consistently stellar on the show for over a decade.
@@NewYorkNick0607 off to find that clip!
Really good acting by Susan Flannery here💯
Not once Brooke made her partners the happiest men in the world, Ridge included .
Hhhhh you said it Ridge that's correct she's desperate 🤣🤣🤣
Brilliant acting by Stephanie 🎉
Who talks to themselves and like a cray cray on an a crowded airplane ??
Tawny 😂😂
I really like her 😂
I wish the camera had zoomed out and shown another passenger sitting in the seat next to her with a worried face. 😂
@@annieo6527this made me laugh out loud
@@annieo6527 Or sleeping with headphones on.
Boy things are looking up for Tawny to afford that Air France 🇫🇷 Concorde to Paris 😂😂
Once you get in Steph's orbit, life always starts getting affordable. Just ask Beth Logan 😂
Stephanie is such a benevolent 👑 queen 👸
Tawny's French is even worse than Becky's 😆
@@NewYorkNick0607I love how Tawny had _no idea_ what the man was saying to her in French! 😂
@@NewYorkNick0607 I speak French. That wasn't it😂. She was speaking Tawny 😂
Amber, you need someone other than the baby to confide in.
Baby Forrester might be the best option.. He doesn't care 😂
@@TriniT21and he can't tell anyone else either since he doesn't know how to talk lol
13:04 Tawny got the Sheila Carter music cue!
Great episode 🎉🎉🎉 Thanks for uploading
Brooke and Thorne so perfect couple 😂😂 lol
It' s all so painful but...maybe there' s a lesson....nobody can control others' life, dear Stephanie...it' s what the ancient Greeks call hubrys
Why that SFTV don’t have several seats always in places she’s not wanted or needed? 😒
Since 1987...
Who is SFTV??
I love your terms of endearment for her
@@NewYorkNick0607Stephanie invented that term of endearment! 😂
Again, Ain't no way that Ridge was not there years later at the end of Steph's life😑
agree, totally ridiculous the way they wrote that sl.
*Stephanie as Storyteller in this storyline*
Stephanie is usually a reliable narrator/Storyteller on the show, but here the show is trying to challenge that by deliberately having her _not_ know what is going on, and _not_ fully being able to control the plot (or even her own body), and it has some odd effects.
For example, in the missing episode 3165, Stephanie was talking to Thorne and Macy and commenting on how the stroke had made her see things "as they really are, as if a veil had been lifted", and that what she was was how the two of them love each other. This highlights what I've been saying about the show's unreliable narrative - the way the show is written now, we are meant to see Stephanie as being wrong and unaware of what is really going on. In retrospect, however, it is _Stephanie_ who is proven right and _the show itself_ is revealed to be "wrong".
Stephanie, the show's strongest Storyteller, is in conflict with the show's "Invisible Narrator".
Warum wird es auf deutsch nicht übersetzt
Brooke is asking about the state of Steph's health, not bc she actually cares one iota about that, but bc she needs Steph to hurry on up and get better so Brooke can get on with her newest conquest.. I mean.. Love
Exactly this! Brooke was getting impatient.
Who is running Forrester these days ? There’s a health crisis and Thorne and Brooke should be doing real work instead of acting like h orney teenagers
@@ministryofwrongthink9847 is Trish still there? By now they should have made her CEO.
I have always said Brooke really never cared about Forrester creations, other than a hunting ground for Forrester men, keeping close to Ridge esp, and a way to hold something over Steph.
So sad😢😢
Dont kiss her Throne you don't know where she has been ??😂😂
😂
It's more like who all were already in her. Thats more the reason why he should not entertain fooling around with her. But hey, the Forrester men and Logan women don't care, they taking turns with each other.
Warum geht die übersetzung nicht auf deutsch
Αυτή η Brook επειδή δεν είχε τον Ridge ,είπε να πάρει όλους τους υπόλοιπους άντρες της οικογένειας 😂....πάλι καλά που δεν πήρε και την Stephanie 😂
If Ridge would have been available, it would so long Thorne Brooke and Thorne were just awful
poor Stephanie she is in a disaster and Thorne all he cares about is caring on with Brooke the man lost his mind
thank God for Eric he is such a bless Stephanie needs him specially in this difficult time in her life
*@Nick* in keeping with the "outsider looking in" theme, Brooke is spying through the window again (with Thorne this time).
Ha! Good catch! Though this time she's not looking in enviously at a couple. Except of course that Stephanie stands for the ideal union of Thorne and Macy. In fact, this ties in to your other post about Stephanie's narration conflicting with the show's invisible narrator. One way to read Stephanie's "wrong" image of Thorne and Macy is that she is still pushing for them to be the aspirational couple and she represents the threat of that aspiration for Brooke.
@@NewYorkNick0607 absolutely! To me, the "friction" between the two narratives is so strong now that it can be felt in every scene of this storyline. And one of the things that causes the most friction is the fact that those people who seem the most in the dark, like Stephanie, are the ones who are actually proven to be _right_ in the end - but only after they are first seemingly proven _wrong._
Also when you say that Stephanie stands for the ideal union between Thorne and Macy, this reinforces the _incredibly_ close connection between Stephanie's and Macy's trajectories throughout this storyline. Finding out about Brooke and Thorne causes Stephanie to have a health crisis, which in turn leads to her being unable to handle the stress of facing the two of them as a couple without literally dying. This is _exactly_ mirrored in Macy about six months later (only with a worse outcome, because while Brooke in both cases wants to reveal the "dangerous secret" that neither woman can survive, Thorne doesn't listen to her the first time but he _does_ the second time). Because of these parallels, it does feel like this storyline as a whole may already have been outlined here (also, it begins _and_ ends with a dramatic confrontation in Big Bear). It's a structurally satisfying twist (although somewhat at the expense of characterization) because what is foreshadowed to happen to Stephanie happens to Macy _instead._ They occupy the same plot space in this storyline.
This guy didn’t look anything like usher lol also why is those episodes so hard to find when usher appeared on the show
I honestly wish tawny was the mother they brought for Jessica and not maggie. Tawny would def have made season 8 a lot more exciting