Yes, clearly. Always looking for opportunities to curtail and hamper freedoms and rights of the ordinary, native-born citizens! They must ALWAYS treat you like a naive child, when THEY'RE the incompetent, grifting imposters!
The police just won’t let it go until they get those precious details. You cooperate with them, yet they still won’t let you go without abusing your rights. I find it disgusting.
Many companies have access to the police national computer…they’re data harvesting…any details given for any reason goes on the data base and stays there….the only thing you ask is if you are detained…if not…walk…if you are…say nothing
Man with a camera or drone the police will attend instantly. If you report a crime you may get a phone call for more details. This is not the Police i pay for. Wasting taxpayers money.
There has never been a time humanity has had instant access to knowledge and information. However, the applied IQ of police and security is on a par with the Wright brothers era of aviation.
"Don't fly too low over railways so as to distract the train drivers" What, and make them swerve?????? Just when you thought you had possibly (unlikely but possibly) found a decent copper, they quickly prove you wrong. All that time wasted on the phone, talking crap, fishing for details, desperate for your operators ID or your name etc, report a burglary and all you get over the phone is a crime number for your insurance company, nuff said.
There maybe no enforceable restriction but common sense indicates flying low (say less than 75 feet) around a moving train and immediately around railway infrastructure could distract a driver from observing signals and the line ahead or cause the drone to damage lineside equipment - especially where the line is overhead electrified where in, addition to the contact and catenary wires, there are other wires carrying the traction currents. As to whether the drone maybe affected by the strong EMF field around a train I could not say but it is a possibility given that a train can typically be drawing around 200 Amps at 25 k Volts. A drone becoming entangled with the trains pantograph would be destroyed but could also entangle with the contact wire and cause significant infrastructure damage and train delays
I just watched your latest video, and I have to say, this one really stood out compared to the previous ones. The way you were upfront and completely honest about your intentions made a big difference. Your politeness and the way you presented yourself this time came across perfectly. Great job on improving how you communicate-it really makes an impact!
The operator ID doesn’t need to be on the side of the drone. Just has to be somewhere on it. Accessible without using a tool. It can be written inside the battery compartment. Schedule 9 would need them to suspect you’re flying outside your licence. In your case under 250 would mean they need to see it has an operator ID. Not that they can take it down to run your identification. Just that there is one on there. To force you to show it has one, they have to see you fly it as they would need to see it has a camera. It’s best not to say what drone you have and just ask what they suspect you have. They have no evidence of what you had. So they have nothing
I went to the Shard a couple of weeks ago and was shocked that it is basically just a bulk standard normal office building, the lobby area is very unimpressive and ordinary, there are buildings in the city that are way nicer, the only big deal about the Shard is the height and shape, both of which of course are very impressive - that's it.
They want details for the police national computer…there are around twenty companies and organisations that have access to it…one being G4S…look it up you’ll see who has access..every time you get stopped or give police details it stays on the data base
If your drone were to fall into the public street and injure someone, The Shard management/ ownership would be the first to disavow themselves of any responsibility. Their concern for safety in this regard is pure gaslighting.
@@TimTheComputerDoctor that will never happen, drones don't require mobile signals, and even if the controller and drone lost signal, it would initiate return to home and land or hover until battery was too low and then it would simply land on its own accord, they dont fall out the sky, unless the operator simply turns of the motors mid flight.
Police officers “Googling” the law on the street is equivalent to a teacher Googling their chosen subject in the classroom. Both quite unacceptable. These people are being put onto our streets without proper knowledge and skills to exercise their duties.
The Shard is £29.95 entry. Nearby, across the Thames, is the Fenchurch Building (The Walkie-Talkie) and in there is Sky Garden. The views are fantastic and you can then actually see The Shard in all it's glory. And it is free. Simply book a slot online.
The state of some of the coppers that are being recruited around the country is shocking. Majority of them are not fit for the job, all a tick box exercise.
*Your drone could fail and fall on someone down here* ...... Your glass windows could fail and fall on someone down here. You doing anything about that? NO, so I'm not either.
I worked in construction project management in London, (now retired) so I was thinking about the fixing of the glazing panels & access to check them...
The point being , the officer has to have reasonable grounds that you have not the relevent qualifications. Now ,that being said, you had advised the officers all about drone assist, heights , weights etc etc of drones and could quote relevent legislation. Therefore the officer has no reasonable grounds that you were flying illegally and as such has no right for obtaining your information. If officers persists in requiring information then it becomes Harrasment , victimisation of a member of the public carrying out a legal activity.
The officer doesn't need reliable grounds to suspect they aren't qualified, they only need to suspect that Operator ID is required to fly the drone. This is what it says in Schedule 9 (specifically paragraph 3)
Cop : *that's not true we have had a few calls before* Oh so they lied to me, and have called you even though they have been through this before, hmm interesting, this now became a new story, Your ID office?.
Schedule 9 (1) is quite clear that both (a) AND (b) are required and a relevant competency requirement does not relate to Operator Id. It would relate to Flyer ID - but that isn't required with this drone. Well done for standing your ground.
The effort these enforcement oficers go through to try and catch a innocent man doing nothing illegal or unlawful is unreal , to my knowledge no major terorrist atacks by drones , only is,, can't say it don't want to be woken up at 4 am
I thought the police behaved professionally on this one especially the male officer. The security manager who reluctantly shook hands found it hard to accept he was wrong after speaking to the police officer. Video around the Shard was amazing.
First look at where they parked so dangerous and lazy. She said Why the shard 🤦 cause London isn’t the only place in Britain 🤷 millions of British people all over have and won’t ever be able to see it. For fook sake move away from the nicely trimmed dangerous bush 😂the cops just can’t stop talking. When they don’t need too. Don’t go too close to windows. Don’t go over railway lines he said yes. Must have been legal cause he did NOTHING. These two cops did good and no gang badge I liked that. I take it all back they have started there shite wanting stuff here we go.
The birds that hit those windows are more likly to break a window that your drone PLUS these windows will be shatterproof because they have to withstand to forces of the high wind at the highs they put up in London
POLICE parking is appalling ! on the zig zags very dangerous for people using the crossing (you can prevent a accident by not parking on them that's for sure) You had some great angles and footage with some awesome reflections. 😎 well done.
I know some folk will be suspicious of everything the police do, but I felt the interaction you had with them was respectful and that they acknowledged you were within your lawful rights and explained that to the site operator.
By Blue tie guy in the beginning reasoning.." someone could be hurt if the drone falls", well then people shouldn't drive their cars because the brakes might fail! Or fly an airplane because it might come down and hurt someone! 🤪
In fairness the effect is meant to be gained from a distance. Look at the pyramids close up and you just see a pile of blocks but from a distance they are spectacular. The bigger a thing is the plainer it is at close quarters. You'd just lose detail on something so large.
It always amazes me how rapidly the cops come to hassle you doing perfectly legal and lawful activities. 🙄 Least security guys were quite pleasant. Especially the last chap.
They pretend to be your friend, but all the while they’re digging for a reason to arrest you.
Yes, clearly. Always looking for opportunities to curtail and hamper freedoms and rights of the ordinary, native-born citizens! They must ALWAYS treat you like a naive child, when THEY'RE the incompetent, grifting imposters!
You'll be arrested for the comment now😢
This is 1000% true
That's their job I suppose. But they were good officer which makes a change from the usual tyrants.
ORE THEY CREATE (A UNLAWFUL ) REASON AND ARREST YOU
Did those officers go on a man hunt for a man with a camera? Its a shame officers dont show the same dedication when peoples houses are robbed.
What the hell was that about?
Yes seems ironic to me. What offence would have been committed?
copsplaining bollocks
PIGSPLANING NONSENSE! 😂
The police just won’t let it go until they get those precious details. You cooperate with them, yet they still won’t let you go without abusing your rights. I find it disgusting.
I think the copper to get the most ID's gets a special prize at Christmas.
It's all they are interested in not the Law and your rights.
Auditors and police are like Tom and Jerry, police love to get auditors ID. Almost an obsession.
Many companies have access to the police national computer…they’re data harvesting…any details given for any reason goes on the data base and stays there….the only thing you ask is if you are detained…if not…walk…if you are…say nothing
An emergency call came in! 2 men with a camera!!!!!!!!!
Met are the worst
It's not that they want the details. They just want to scrape back some of that authority they think they have over you
The police are our enemies make no mistake about this and don't forget it either
tHE POLICE, GOVERNMENT,COUNCILS THEY ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER. RE EVALUATE YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM ALL.
@@takeapictureitlllastlonger5768 👍👍
They were doing so well until the ID obsession again. It's disgusting.
It's a power thing, simple as that.
Parking on Zig zag lines is definitely illegal.
1000 £ fine and a years ban...potentially
Two Tier Policing. Report it but they investigate their own mis doings so the system in corrupt to the core.
And parking on the pavement....😮
😂😂not for the police,they can park anywhere
Welcome to the party pal, die hard😂😂
Really bad woman police officer. Very bad vibes, very evil.
It's a boy ..... 🤔
@@69spook
I’m never going to Thailand again.
I could feel it too. Actually evil.
Woman
Looks like someone's Granny !!
“Can I have a look at the footage?”
Meaning: please will you self incriminate yourself.
Foxtrot Oscar
It is gorgeous footage though. Wouldn't it be funny if he blurred out the reflection of the drone?
Her "theory" is bollocks, she's fishing for details, standard operating procedure.
The police are NEVER your friend... ever. Don't speak, without a lawyer present.
Yes a relation told me that ( He was a POLICE INPECTOR 😂)
Good advice! They always try to fit you up with something so don't help them in any way.
Ellen DeGeneres is looking rough
You'd think she'd move away from the bush after being attacked by it umpteen times.
@@andymcnab2.0 triphid attack on piggies😂
when she said 'why the shard?' as though its a very strange place that anyone would be interested in. no wonder she doesn't have a boyfriend. lol
Lesbian's live for the 'bush' 😅
Worried about diddy tapes 😂
So the taxpayers pay, for them to question a legal activity and give silly directives.
While people are being stabbed on a daily basis.
"Law-abiding citizens have no obligation to ID." Say that, auditors.
Its only a matter of time till they say "where are your papers"
Man with a camera or drone the police will attend instantly. If you report a crime you may get a phone call for more details.
This is not the Police i pay for. Wasting taxpayers money.
All that sweet talk then she goes nasty on you. NEVER TRUST THE POLICE.
Always film the police
She????
I thought they were doing OK , until the addictive obsession to get ID even when a legal activity is taking place.
Makes your blood boil.
There has never been a time humanity has had instant access to knowledge and information. However, the applied IQ of police and security is on a par with the Wright brothers era of aviation.
" Why the Shard" ? Why not? Springs to mind.......
Kent Audits answers" because I want to - because I can".
Like @kentaudits
yeah, it's not like the Shard is the tallest building in Europe and a tourist attraction.
Because it's there
"Don't fly too low over railways so as to distract the train drivers" What, and make them swerve?????? Just when you thought you had possibly (unlikely but possibly) found a decent copper, they quickly prove you wrong. All that time wasted on the phone, talking crap, fishing for details, desperate for your operators ID or your name etc, report a burglary and all you get over the phone is a crime number for your insurance company, nuff said.
There maybe no enforceable restriction but common sense indicates flying low (say less than 75 feet) around a moving train and immediately around railway infrastructure could distract a driver from observing signals and the line ahead or cause the drone to damage lineside equipment - especially where the line is overhead electrified where in, addition to the contact and catenary wires, there are other wires carrying the traction currents. As to whether the drone maybe affected by the strong EMF field around a train I could not say but it is a possibility given that a train can typically be drawing around 200 Amps at 25 k Volts.
A drone becoming entangled with the trains pantograph would be destroyed but could also entangle with the contact wire and cause significant infrastructure damage and train delays
I just watched your latest video, and I have to say, this one really stood out compared to the previous ones. The way you were upfront and completely honest about your intentions made a big difference. Your politeness and the way you presented yourself this time came across perfectly. Great job on improving how you communicate-it really makes an impact!
parking on jagged lines on pedestrian crossing is 6 points on licence and at least £100 fine
Zig zags
Not for nobodies in uniform.
She said “ I know we have the power and that’s enough for me”😂
She was being harassed by that shrubbery 😂😂
. It, They, Them.
SHRUBBERY !
How dangerous is walking down a London street these days.
Yes the police are concerned that a drone may fall from the sky and injure one of the many foreign doctors, engineers/phone or Rolex watch muggers.
@@brucescott4631 Rolex technicians you mean 😂😊
@@pooooornopigeon Eminem - Not Afraid
@@andymcnab2.0 Yes indeed Andy.
The operator ID doesn’t need to be on the side of the drone. Just has to be somewhere on it. Accessible without using a tool. It can be written inside the battery compartment.
Schedule 9 would need them to suspect you’re flying outside your licence. In your case under 250 would mean they need to see it has an operator ID. Not that they can take it down to run your identification. Just that there is one on there. To force you to show it has one, they have to see you fly it as they would need to see it has a camera.
It’s best not to say what drone you have and just ask what they suspect you have. They have no evidence of what you had. So they have nothing
I got to say those shots of the shard were awesome!
I could not work in a place like that! How do they clean the windows?
@@douglipscomb3002 the window cleaners assail down and also use gondolas.
I went to the Shard a couple of weeks ago and was shocked that it is basically just a bulk standard normal office building, the lobby area is very unimpressive and ordinary, there are buildings in the city that are way nicer, the only big deal about the Shard is the height and shape, both of which of course are very impressive - that's it.
Well they didnt build it to be a theme park, no Skyscrapers are built for tourism, that is just a side benefit after the fact.
The toilets at the top have an awesome view!
Not once did I hear them give identification, say they BWC is on. Sounds like they are after information for the security company
They want details for the police national computer…there are around twenty companies and organisations that have access to it…one being G4S…look it up you’ll see who has access..every time you get stopped or give police details it stays on the data base
“DETAILS” are like an addiction for the authorities. The lengths they will go to for just a name is scary.
Never talk to the police, everyting you say can be used against you!
She’s a fisher for sure, pretending to be nice but in reality, she’s really not.
copsplaing bollocks
That poor male officer defo did not wanna be there 😂😂😂😂😂
If your drone were to fall into the public street and injure someone, The Shard management/ ownership would be the first to disavow themselves of any responsibility. Their concern for safety in this regard is pure gaslighting.
The only way that his drone could fall suddenly is if his mobile phone network suddenly got switched off.
@@TimTheComputerDoctor a Mobile phone is nothing to do with keeping a drone in the air .
Good point, but not the one I was making.
@@TimTheComputerDoctor that will never happen, drones don't require mobile signals, and even if the controller and drone lost signal, it would initiate return to home and land or hover until battery was too low and then it would simply land on its own accord, they dont fall out the sky, unless the operator simply turns of the motors mid flight.
Constable Robinson arrived with the right tone and attitude. I would criticise where the police van parked.
Knowledge is power, but being thick is free 😢
Great video. The exchanges were civil and informative. Those London Bobbies were good, taking time to talk and doing their checks. Professional.
Police officers “Googling” the law on the street is equivalent to a teacher Googling their chosen subject in the classroom. Both quite unacceptable.
These people are being put onto our streets without proper knowledge and skills to exercise their duties.
The Shard is £29.95 entry. Nearby, across the Thames, is the Fenchurch Building (The Walkie-Talkie) and in there is Sky Garden. The views are fantastic and you can then actually see The Shard in all it's glory.
And it is free. Simply book a slot online.
We can report you under Section 12a of The Thingleybob Act of 1984 as ammended.
And the subsection of "cos I said so' .
Getting annoyed by the bush and continuing to stand in it...wtf?😂
I couldn’t figure that out either 😂😂😂
The state of some of the coppers that are being recruited around the country is shocking. Majority of them are not fit for the job, all a tick box exercise.
If you handed over your ID we would leave in droves.
*Your drone could fail and fall on someone down here* ...... Your glass windows could fail and fall on someone down here. You doing anything about that? NO, so I'm not either.
I worked in construction project management in London, (now retired) so I was thinking about the fixing of the glazing panels & access to check them...
Didn't some of the nuts and bolts fell to the pavement not long after it was built,, which are definitely heavier than a drone
Planes can fall out the sky
Beautiful filming..never seen the building From those angles before.Thanks I'm in bed since june after a heart attack thanks again for making my day❤
@Jojo-r6j Rest easy
@karlf8576 Thanks m8
Is there a reason you dont want to give it ? Yes its my RIGHTS !
So ignorant when they just walk off and don’t include you in the conversation 🤨
Are they parked on the zig zags? Not Allowed !
It is for foreign delivery drivers..I see it about 10 times a day
Ah, Zig and Zag, I wondered what happened to them.😁
Exelent parking blocking traffic lights and no parking zone
The point being , the officer has to have reasonable grounds that you have not the relevent qualifications. Now ,that being said, you had advised the officers all about drone assist, heights , weights etc etc of drones and could quote relevent legislation. Therefore the officer has no reasonable grounds that you were flying illegally and as such has no right for obtaining your information. If officers persists in requiring information then it becomes Harrasment , victimisation of a member of the public carrying out a legal activity.
Mostly that he SHOWED THEM the Operator ID .
The officer doesn't need reliable grounds to suspect they aren't qualified, they only need to suspect that Operator ID is required to fly the drone. This is what it says in Schedule 9 (specifically paragraph 3)
That triffid plant's trying to attack the wpc why doesn't she move
Cop : *that's not true we have had a few calls before*
Oh so they lied to me, and have called you even though they have been through this before, hmm interesting, this now became a new story, Your ID office?.
Wow The Shard very cool thanks for filming this.
Schedule 9 (1) is quite clear that both (a) AND (b) are required and a relevant competency requirement does not relate to Operator Id. It would relate to Flyer ID - but that isn't required with this drone. Well done for standing your ground.
I see Ellen Degeneres found a job pretty quick!
Is that look a prerequisite for becoming a bully, or do bullies eventually look like that?
The effort these enforcement oficers go through to try and catch a innocent man doing nothing illegal or unlawful is unreal , to my knowledge no major terorrist atacks by drones , only is,, can't say it don't want to be woken up at 4 am
After watching you video since you started i have looked at schedule 9 and as you pointed out the AND is very important.
Why is Sandy Toksvig getting involved?
Do the police do anything besides pester people taking photos/videos?
Only lesbian nanas.
No matter how legal you are they just can’t help giving ‘ advice’.
I think all was amicable,the Police will always dig for your name,regardless but everyone acted proffesional ,so all was good
Don't usually comment on your stuff but the shots of the Shard are truly awesome.
I'm glad you formatted this one for laptops now, it was squished earlier for me
I thought the police behaved professionally on this one especially the male officer. The security manager who reluctantly shook hands found it hard to accept he was wrong after speaking to the police officer. Video around the Shard was amazing.
The Shard is an ugly building totally devoid of any architectural merit.
In the time these 2 officers spent arguing with a member of the public over a lawful activity, 3 people were stabbed and 15 phones were stolen.
Dont ever say iam allowed to do it.. say iam free to do it ❤
Looking forward to this 😅
First look at where they parked so dangerous and lazy. She said Why the shard 🤦 cause London isn’t the only place in Britain 🤷 millions of British people all over have and won’t ever be able to see it. For fook sake move away from the nicely trimmed dangerous bush 😂the cops just can’t stop talking. When they don’t need too. Don’t go too close to windows. Don’t go over railway lines he said yes. Must have been legal cause he did NOTHING. These two cops did good and no gang badge I liked that. I take it all back they have started there shite wanting stuff here we go.
dont have to show ID unless an offence has been commited
or suspected
Suspicion is ephemeral, they wouldn't get mine on a "manufactured suspicion".
Nope. Section 9, ATMUA, 2021, allows them to ask for proof that you are registered. That requires name and Op ID.
@@walkingwithstephen he means the actual ID of the person not the drone flyer ID
@@georgebarnes8163 Name of the person, yes. Flyer ID not applicable for this type of drone.
The birds that hit those windows are more likly to break a window that your drone PLUS these windows will be shatterproof because they have to withstand to forces of the high wind at the highs they put up in London
Parts may fall off the building also.
POLICE parking is appalling ! on the zig zags very dangerous for people using the crossing (you can prevent a accident by not parking on them that's for sure) You had some great angles and footage with some awesome reflections. 😎 well done.
I heard Ellen was moving here.
She's already in the Cotswalds..... already left the US.
@@haroldsmith8454 That can't be true. She's clearly a crap copper in London.
I remember her partner acting in Ally MC Beal, cute as a button.
she has a camera but hasn't a clue about the policy she is lying or a nugget.why is she employed
I don't think pigeons got the memo
Eye eye
Nice greenhouse ..
She was quite sneaky.. very chatty chatty, getting attacked by the triffids, talking about the cold weather and then... FLYER ID PLEASE!!!!
Yeah, they play “good cop” and act like their your best friend. But its all an interrogation.
I know some folk will be suspicious of everything the police do, but I felt the interaction you had with them was respectful and that they acknowledged you were within your lawful rights and explained that to the site operator.
Obstructing railway drivers who have to brake hard and lose their toupees FS
😂
Them security people made themselves look like fools forever on RUclips and thank you for standing up for our rights you are the number 1
Wow, wow wow Dan!!!! I love the shard such an iconic building love old too you excel your self every time well done! ❤️Xx
Forget the audit, great footage!
Must get ID Must get IO Must get ID
By Blue tie guy in the beginning reasoning.." someone could be hurt if the drone falls", well then people shouldn't drive their cars because the brakes might fail! Or fly an airplane because it might come down and hurt someone! 🤪
Haven't they got any hurtful tweets to be dealing with?
There are people out there with hurt feeling!!!!
Just one feeling? Singular?
Yet another outstanding drone footage 👍can anyone let me know are the police allowed to park on zig zag lines in an non emergency call 🤔
They're exempt if they're getting their chips whilst on duty.....😊
@ianhill4585 o ok of course I forgot 🙄👍😂
Who’s going to stop them?
It doesn’t look that impressive close up does it! Looks like a crappy block of flats!
In fairness the effect is meant to be gained from a distance. Look at the pyramids close up and you just see a pile of blocks but from a distance they are spectacular. The bigger a thing is the plainer it is at close quarters. You'd just lose detail on something so large.
No pleasing some people is there
What about the G4S van parked on the path?
I think you made the security guards day mate. Every days a school day
Why are they wasting so much time for a man with a camera doing a legal activity whilst the real criminals are left alone?
I dont trust that police woman she sly
32:09 is that Marge Simpson 😂😂
Brilliant shots Dan
Enjoyed this one. Some cracking videography.
No "conversation", it's always an "interrogation".
WOW Fantastic drone footage and entertaining interaction 😊
I think I maybe the only one who thinks the Shard is tacky AF.
Your footage is amazing
It always amazes me how rapidly the cops come to hassle you doing perfectly legal and lawful activities. 🙄
Least security guys were quite pleasant. Especially the last chap.