I can't speak for all tortoise species because I've only worked with a few of them but I have some bad news for anyone that's hoping that they aren't negatively impacted by rehoming at least from an attachment point of view. I believe this may be less of an issue if they're being kept in groups their whole lives and have really good interaction and move with each other but if they have begotten attached to a specific person at the very least I know for sure that sororan desert tortoises and red-footed tortoises get rather disturbed when removed from their main human. There are so many stories locally where I am of the desert tortoises trying to find somebody from a family that has died recently that there's no way that this is not an attachment system and as for the red foots I have personally engaged with an individual redfoot that had spent its entire life with a woman before passing away and it had been brought to that zoo several years before I came there but it was struggling. The amount of joy that that animal got from seeing me was ridiculous and I can only assume that I reminded it of its original owner, but it may also have been how I took care of it and the type of attention I gave it so I made sure that the next person to take over that role was sure to give it the extra special attention. However, when I went back a few years later I was told that it was doing okay but when they saw it react to seeing me they were a little taken aback so promised to push its enrichment even further. I really should go back and try and visit it and see how it's doing again but I live on the other side of the country now. I think we have a lot left to understand about the social systems of tortoises and how they form long-term social bonds that may not necessarily always be easy to see from our perspective.
I've heard of some popular ornamental fish farms (who breed the rarer fishes) in South East Asia also breeding tortoises. the tortoises just roam outside the houses where the fishes are.
Hey Dylan, love the podcast but I found parts of this episode very hard to pay attention to due to the guest constantly using esoteric scientific names like he expected the listeners to have the same depth of knowledge. Do you think you could ask guests for more clarification on what exactly they’re talking about in future episodes? Like specifying the common name if it has one and a quick description
I can definitely do that in the future! (Or at least try my best to do so). One of the issues with some of the more obscure species is they don’t have a common name (or have so many they become meaningless). Thanks for watching!
@@AnimalsatHomePodcastI think a good solution would be maybe to just put the scientific on the screen the first time its used. So It can be easy to search for later. I know this adds a lot to the editing though. Still great episode tho!
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast Could make a whole persona out of it like Josh Yeo and his AI assistant OTIS. (Well RUclipsrs already do it with their "Editor (RUclipsr name) here" followed by explainer. But I don't know how to best to seamlessly edit a podcast. :)
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast thank you! And my comment was a little disrespectful to Gabriel which I apologize for. The guy is a wealth of knowledge and I enjoyed the episode overall
@@jimothyj2638I think even the common name probably wouldn't fix things because common names are not reliable ways of identifying what species you're talking about. My suggestion would be to put pictures of all the species discussed at the front so when they come up people know what they are or something along those lines since editing them in post at each spot would probably be a pain.
Interesting so far ,,,, i'm not done ,,, still watching ,,, i should be finished by tomorrow ,,,, i'm bac n forth ,,,,due to work and animal cleaning '
*Thank you for watching the epiosde!*
I can't speak for all tortoise species because I've only worked with a few of them but I have some bad news for anyone that's hoping that they aren't negatively impacted by rehoming at least from an attachment point of view. I believe this may be less of an issue if they're being kept in groups their whole lives and have really good interaction and move with each other but if they have begotten attached to a specific person at the very least I know for sure that sororan desert tortoises and red-footed tortoises get rather disturbed when removed from their main human. There are so many stories locally where I am of the desert tortoises trying to find somebody from a family that has died recently that there's no way that this is not an attachment system and as for the red foots I have personally engaged with an individual redfoot that had spent its entire life with a woman before passing away and it had been brought to that zoo several years before I came there but it was struggling. The amount of joy that that animal got from seeing me was ridiculous and I can only assume that I reminded it of its original owner, but it may also have been how I took care of it and the type of attention I gave it so I made sure that the next person to take over that role was sure to give it the extra special attention. However, when I went back a few years later I was told that it was doing okay but when they saw it react to seeing me they were a little taken aback so promised to push its enrichment even further. I really should go back and try and visit it and see how it's doing again but I live on the other side of the country now.
I think we have a lot left to understand about the social systems of tortoises and how they form long-term social bonds that may not necessarily always be easy to see from our perspective.
I've heard of some popular ornamental fish farms (who breed the rarer fishes) in South East Asia also breeding tortoises. the tortoises just roam outside the houses where the fishes are.
Dillon, Gabriel...thanks for a very fascinating and informative discussion! It's great to see another episode devoted to tortoises!
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it! 😀
Thank you for another focus on Tortoises.
Thank you for watching!
Hey Dylan, love the podcast but I found parts of this episode very hard to pay attention to due to the guest constantly using esoteric scientific names like he expected the listeners to have the same depth of knowledge. Do you think you could ask guests for more clarification on what exactly they’re talking about in future episodes? Like specifying the common name if it has one and a quick description
I can definitely do that in the future! (Or at least try my best to do so). One of the issues with some of the more obscure species is they don’t have a common name (or have so many they become meaningless). Thanks for watching!
@@AnimalsatHomePodcastI think a good solution would be maybe to just put the scientific on the screen the first time its used. So It can be easy to search for later. I know this adds a lot to the editing though. Still great episode tho!
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast Could make a whole persona out of it like Josh Yeo and his AI assistant OTIS.
(Well RUclipsrs already do it with their "Editor (RUclipsr name) here" followed by explainer. But I don't know how to best to seamlessly edit a podcast. :)
@@AnimalsatHomePodcast thank you! And my comment was a little disrespectful to Gabriel which I apologize for. The guy is a wealth of knowledge and I enjoyed the episode overall
@@jimothyj2638I think even the common name probably wouldn't fix things because common names are not reliable ways of identifying what species you're talking about. My suggestion would be to put pictures of all the species discussed at the front so when they come up people know what they are or something along those lines since editing them in post at each spot would probably be a pain.
Interesting so far ,,,, i'm not done ,,, still watching ,,, i should be finished by tomorrow ,,,, i'm bac n forth ,,,,due to work and animal cleaning '
Enjoy the rest of the episode! :)
All done ,, now ,,, it was a blast ,,,, thanks for the education bro '@@AnimalsatHomePodcast
I remember back when I had my Pet Store in the early 90s you could buy hingebacks from Glades Herp for $10 each. I had 3 different pairs of 3 species.
Awesome podcast Dylan. Really enjoyed this one a lot. Thanks for what you do man!
Wow, $10 each, that’s crazy! Thanks for watching the episode, glad you enjoyed it 😀
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