Byrna LE VS Grimburg Gavle VS Pepperball TRP | Extended Range Testing with JUL rounds!

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  • Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
  • Hey folks!!
    Let's test some range with the CRAZY cool JUL rounds!
    Have a great night!
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Комментарии • 174

  • @betterffd
    @betterffd 2 месяца назад +13

    I've definitely gotta look into that Grimburg.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +4

      That thing is a BEAST! Grimburg is going to be in the chat.. If you have any questions, they will respond ;)

    • @Joreel
      @Joreel 2 месяца назад +2

      It's a great launcher with awesome customer service.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      @@Joreel Yeah, Kurt is a hell of a guy too!

    • @shadowmihaiu
      @shadowmihaiu 2 месяца назад +2

      I just bought two, one for myself and one for my girl, after watching the hard2hurt channel where the host took a shot from it at 30 feet. Out of all the launchers I know of, the Grimburg Gavle is the only one I judge to be effective enough to trust with my daughter's safety. Not that the Byrna LE, for example, isn't a good LTL weapon. But I have seen people take shots from them and not be stopped for certain. I want me girl to both feel safe and actually be safe.

    • @grimburglesslethal
      @grimburglesslethal 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Joreel Thx 👍

  • @cheeseman417
    @cheeseman417 2 месяца назад +7

    Taking one for the team!.... OHH YEAH! ...Skull-y, Skull-y, Skull-y!

  • @bryancantrell1138
    @bryancantrell1138 2 месяца назад +3

    Another great video. A couple of regulars have been using Grimberg ammo in the S2 with great results. It’s as if bore matched. I believe it was East Coast Less Lethal, and Less Lethal For Dummies. These tests have me rethinking on a Gavel for the collection.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      Yep! I don’t think you could go wrong :)

  • @Hackers50Maker
    @Hackers50Maker 2 месяца назад +3

    Both launchers I was looking for information on. Thank you

  • @normsimon9133
    @normsimon9133 2 месяца назад +2

    Jon, can't wait for your test of the SS2.0 with Grimburg rounds on board. Travel safe.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      It’s coming :) I need to talk to Greenberg next week about getting some more JUL rounds in.

  • @RexHuffman-wh5hg
    @RexHuffman-wh5hg 2 месяца назад +2

    Great video Jon. Let’s be careful out there.

  • @glennsammon4465
    @glennsammon4465 2 месяца назад +1

    another great video Jon. of the three Byrnas that I do have the one that goes outside is loaded with pepper rounds.I could not get them for a while but MCS allowed me to buy some PAVA rounds. the Byrnas that stay indoors of course use the Byrna solid rounds. I have to get two of the LE models now.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      Nice man! Why couldn’t you get the pava rounds?

  • @walway01
    @walway01 2 месяца назад +7

    The Grimburg Gavil is a total beast and it's at least twice as loud as the Byrna LE. I'm thinking about purchasing the Grimburg FAR projectiles. Can you test the FAR projectiles?
    Thanks,
    Wayne

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      Hey Wayne, as it turns out, they are actually here in the chat. I will ask them about it, but if you would like to see them on my channel, let them know also :-)

    • @walway01
      @walway01 2 месяца назад +2

      @AlternateArmsSD Hi John.
      I asked Grimburg about the FAR projectiles in the Gavil and they explained the Gavil can only use round projectiles. The FAR ammo are designed for the FSC with the Paradigm barrel or the FSC. I'm glad you told me to inquire about the FAR because, I was about to order some.
      Thank you sir...

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      @@walway01 Good deal man! You know, I’d love to put a few of those through the overwatch. :)

  • @craighillcoach
    @craighillcoach 2 месяца назад +2

    I saw your video that you did a few months ago and immediately bought the GRIMBURG! 5 shots with along with that noise & whoever just broke in the house is now trying to breaking out! HIM & HIS HOMIES! Tell purple skully 💀 to go to the ER!

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      Awesome man!! Yeah that thing is a canon!

  • @pmaddox
    @pmaddox 2 месяца назад +2

    Loved the vid and how you explain everything...very cool..I am learning...

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      Thank you so much Brother! some people say that I can be a little long-winded, but my goal is always to give every bit of information that you could possibly need before you spend your hard earned money on something.

    • @pmaddox
      @pmaddox 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AlternateArmsSD oh man! I need all the info I can get...so preach on, and my heart is set on the Byrna thanks to you...

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      @@pmaddox thanks brother, I have a lot of cool things coming this year :-)

    • @pmaddox
      @pmaddox Месяц назад +1

      @@AlternateArmsSD if you're a seller can I purchase one from you?

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  Месяц назад

      @@pmaddox You can man. Www.alternatearmsselfdefense.com

  • @vernontyer4421
    @vernontyer4421 2 месяца назад +1

    I have been thinking about getting a Grimburg. Thanks for the comparison.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      My pleasure man. Yeah, those things are canons!

    • @Joreel
      @Joreel 2 месяца назад

      You won't regret getting a Gavle 👀

  • @LESSLETHALMANE
    @LESSLETHALMANE Месяц назад +3

    I would personally like to thank everyone in the comments who are “thinking”about purchasing a Gavel, I just ordered my 3rd one last week on the 17th, please take “all” the time in the world to order yours so mine will come faster.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  Месяц назад +1

      @@LESSLETHALMANE Heh that’s great man! Yeah, they are something else!

  • @deanbornman77
    @deanbornman77 2 месяца назад +1

    Great video, like always! Off topic, I came across a Launcher called the Sicariis .50cal. Almost looks like a Tiberius 8.1 that went on a diet. Hope you will do a review when they reach out. I also think your channel is one of the best ones out there. Im also pro Less Lethal.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks man! I have contacted sicarii mistime times about getting one on for the show and *crickets* :) I’ll keep pushing :)

  • @edmaslana4184
    @edmaslana4184 2 месяца назад +1

    NICE WO 18:56 RK JON, Keep up the good work .DON'T CHANGE YOUR FORMAT...

  • @stevendragulski7440
    @stevendragulski7440 21 день назад +1

    I have the TCP but man that Grimburg Gavel is definitely on my list

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  20 дней назад

      It’s a beast man. I was actually caught a bit off guard when I fired it the first time.

  • @sonadorazul3074
    @sonadorazul3074 10 дней назад +1

    A Chrono would have been very informative.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  10 дней назад

      @@sonadorazul3074 Greetings! I have individual tests on each with readings. Thanks!

  • @TheDarkTruth-k8g
    @TheDarkTruth-k8g 2 месяца назад +1

    Love this channel

  • @BernerDad6969
    @BernerDad6969 2 месяца назад +1

    The one Iv been waiting for

  • @kjayclowers12
    @kjayclowers12 День назад +1

    Houston Jones Took multiple shots bare skin from the Gavle recently on camera

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  День назад

      @@kjayclowers12 there are several problems with that statement. First, he’s a comedian and a trained athlete to a specifically trying to take shots like this. 99.9999999% of the people you’re going to meet or not and are not. also, keep in mind that he took specifically located shots in a very slow and timed manner. If you’re in a self-defense situation, you unloaded center mass as quickly as possible.

  • @choule90
    @choule90 12 дней назад +1

    So I got a ahaha moment for ya... Leave the CO2 out of the byrna tip it upside down and drop a round into the mag well... You will realize when you pull the trigger the round falls into place and is loaded into the chamber.. now my question (it's not in my budget as I try to save as much of my stock for when necessary) can you fill the mag well up and repeatedly fire and empty the 10+ rounds that fills the mag well without a jam and could this be a better way for when you got multiple threats

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  9 дней назад

      Hehe Yeah, they will all do that. The only thing that holds the round in place is the detent which is either in the launcher or in the magazine depending on the model you choose.

  • @dice268926
    @dice268926 2 месяца назад +1

    Great video 📹 👍 u gotta refresh your target area & skully, its hard to tell the new holes from your old ones

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, I have four fresh skullys printing right now :-)

  • @Samlol23_drrich
    @Samlol23_drrich 46 минут назад +1

    Gotta hope for an eye shot.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  20 минут назад

      @@Samlol23_drrich Not with these you don’t. :)

  • @kurt9994
    @kurt9994 2 месяца назад +2

    Good day Jon. Nice testing as usual. Since you gave news on the PDP'S I was wondering if you have heard anything more on the HDX 68 high-powered version coming to the states? I'm hearing the release has been moved further away again close to Christmas time with a significant price increase. I appreciate any information concerning this and thank you again for your testing.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      Hey brother, funny you should ask :-) I had a conference call with Umarex last week and I was told that the new 40 J HDX should be out by August. Stay tuned on that one :-)

    • @kurt9994
      @kurt9994 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AlternateArmsSD Thank you for such a quick response.

    • @Joreel
      @Joreel 2 месяца назад

      ​@@kurt9994If you don't want to wait, there are a few places that already sell the 40 Joule HDX if you do a search for them. I bought one a while back and it's a beast of a launcher at 40-50 Joules (depending on the temperatures apparently). I wish I could have had the company send it to Jon first as he would have had so much fun blowing Sully into tiny pieces in one shot.

    • @kurt9994
      @kurt9994 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@AlternateArmsSD Jon, I'm seeing $500 now for that HDX high powered version supposedly being released a little before Christmas. If that's true they're pricing themselves out of the market. Thanks for your work in the Less lethal community.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      @@kurt9994 I’d agree… but…. Stay tuned :)

  • @Pendragon501
    @Pendragon501 2 месяца назад +3

    I ordered a Grimburg Gavle 3 weeks ago and it's Still in processing.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      Kurt, from Grimburg, is watching this chat arc.. Lets ask him :)

    • @Pendragon501
      @Pendragon501 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AlternateArmsSD They're apparently waiting on parts or something like that.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      @@Pendragon501 That would make sense to me. These things are all American made and I can tell you that other American made manufacturers that you've seen on this show are also having supply issues to some extent.

  • @T4NKD13S3L
    @T4NKD13S3L 2 месяца назад +2

    Just a little twist on the back of that trp will put it on par with the gavel

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      I have a whole new video planned for the maxed out trp :)

  • @Sola_Scriptura_1.618
    @Sola_Scriptura_1.618 2 месяца назад +2

    I just added the TRP to my collection. I just ordered it!

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      Nice!!

    • @Sola_Scriptura_1.618
      @Sola_Scriptura_1.618 2 месяца назад +1

      @AlternateArmsSD nice for me, bad for my wallet.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      @@Sola_Scriptura_1.618 My friend, do I ever understand that :-) one of these days I’ll show you my private collection :-)

    • @Sola_Scriptura_1.618
      @Sola_Scriptura_1.618 2 месяца назад +2

      @AlternateArmsSD lmao! I can only imagine. 3 Markers in 3 wks! I need to stop watching all these addictive videos. I think I know what it feels like to be addicted to illicit drugs!

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      @@Sola_Scriptura_1.618 ROFL!! If it makes you feel any better, I talked to a couple manufacturers and it looks like we’re getting four more launchers next year :-)

  • @bretthighbee
    @bretthighbee 2 месяца назад +1

    Great video. I heard Grimburg has a new set of seals that can handle the CO2 being charged past the five-minute time limit to avoid ruining the older-style seals. That is a nice development. I was concerned about that so I never loaded mine back to back when plinking. One load up, bleed the unused CO2 out and put it away. Now a person can keep the system charged with the CO2 cylinder snug instead of rattling around when walking with one on my belt. I am curious how long a marker can sit charged up with these new seals without damaging the marker.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      That sounds like an interesting test for the future............................ hmmm :)

  • @JohnDoe-fx2ut
    @JohnDoe-fx2ut 8 дней назад +1

    Why not just use tape, and mark off the floor, so you will always know how many feet back you are without walking it off each time? Just saying, 🙂

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  7 дней назад +1

      I actually have another plan. However, if this goes wrong, I could put a pepper around or a kinetic round directly through a $700 camera :-) let’s hope that doesn’t happen.

  • @earlclinkenbeard7888
    @earlclinkenbeard7888 2 месяца назад +2

    Can the grimburg be modified and can you send email catalog of your products with prices.Your videos are extremely informative and entertaining.Thank you.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      Actually, the Grimmer does have a few modifications that can be done to the launcher. Grimberg is actually monitoring this chat so they will probably jump in here as well. I don’t currently carry the Grimburg products on my website, but give me time :-) they are definitely somebody I would love to add to the alternate arms less than lethal family :-)

  • @bertfisk1194
    @bertfisk1194 Месяц назад +2

    Hi so you can use the Grimburg rounds in the Bryna? Also will pepper rounds burst if you hit a person with a coat, there not hitting anything hard??

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  Месяц назад

      @@bertfisk1194 Yeah sure can! Yes they will. It’s all about mass vs velocity.

  • @BernerDad6969
    @BernerDad6969 8 дней назад +1

    Can you try a byrna kinetic round in the gavel. I want to know just to see if it would work for training purposes.

  • @LamaJeTsonghkapa
    @LamaJeTsonghkapa 15 дней назад +1

    Can you make the grimberg more powerful like you did with i believe the one on the very right?

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  14 дней назад

      There are some upgrades available from Grimburg but it’s a beast out of the box!

  • @grimburglesslethal
    @grimburglesslethal 2 месяца назад +1

    7.8 to 8.03 g is about it. The new FAR rounds are a little bit heavier.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +3

      They are BRUTAL rounds. I’d actually like to use them as our exclusive kinetic rounds for all future testing. How would you guys feel about that?

    • @grimburglesslethal
      @grimburglesslethal 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@AlternateArmsSDAbsolutely!

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +2

      @@grimburglesslethal Lets get together on it. You folks deserve a permanent spot on the channel for sure.

  • @kennymaggic6004
    @kennymaggic6004 2 месяца назад +1

    wish umerex would make the pdp more powerful, besides spring...
    news on umerx peper with ball inside to guarantee breakage.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      Yep, those new rounds are supposed to be available next month. Stay tuned :)

  • @JohnMatthews-rz6vr
    @JohnMatthews-rz6vr 2 месяца назад +2

    Have you seen the streetwise heat launcher …

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      Not only have I seen it, I’ve been directly in touch with their sales Director. Apparently, they don’t feel that my channel warrants having one sent for review. However, if you want to see exactly what it is, look at my video on the guard dog fireball. They are absolutely 100% identical.

    • @JohnMatthews-rz6vr
      @JohnMatthews-rz6vr 2 месяца назад +1

      They suck ,I love ur Channel thank you. I’ll check the video out

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      @@JohnMatthews-rz6vr Thanks man!

  • @chriswedgworth
    @chriswedgworth 2 месяца назад +1

    Another great video
    #watchedtilltheend

  • @johnmuller5880
    @johnmuller5880 Месяц назад +1

    Have you tried a hoodie material in front of your skull I’ve?

  • @Ebotoman79
    @Ebotoman79 Месяц назад +1

    I know you can’t store the Grimberg Gavel with the CO2 pierced (not many launchers will let you store them pierced), but can you store it with the projectiles already loaded or will that compromise the spring? Been looking online and can’t find any answers and figured you’d know Jon. Thanks in advance 👍🏾🤙🏾

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  Месяц назад +2

      Hey Brother! You can leave the rounds loaded. I leave the C02 canister ALMOST pierced so it’s ready. For quick use :)

  • @JackofNothingess
    @JackofNothingess Месяц назад +1

    Hey Jon, a question: Will the Byrna SD feed and run the Grimburg Juuls? They look amazing and I would be curious if it works on the SD and SDXL.
    Thanks again!

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  Месяц назад

      Yes they do and QUITE well. I am going to revisit that shortly.

  • @erwinvillalva4214
    @erwinvillalva4214 10 дней назад +1

    @john: can you keep the grimburg loaded much like my beloved Hdr50?

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  9 дней назад +1

      Greetings! Loaded, yes. C02 charged, no. You don't want to leave them pressurized for extended periods of time.

    • @erwinvillalva4214
      @erwinvillalva4214 9 дней назад +1

      You, sir, are my hero

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  9 дней назад

      @@erwinvillalva4214 Thanks Brother!

  • @troycann1731
    @troycann1731 2 дня назад

    Any chance the byrna Le can be dismantled for international shipping?

  • @roscoecummings3229
    @roscoecummings3229 2 месяца назад +1

    Hello I have a dumb question could a non blow back be turned into a blow back I have two scorpions and a xde bb and nigh stalker BB all c02 I love the blow back I also wonder if I am the first to ask 😂 have a great day

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      Greets! Alas no. There is an entire mechanism designed to "reset" the hammer between shots.

    • @roscoecummings3229
      @roscoecummings3229 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AlternateArmsSD didn't think it was possible

  • @plangullible6487
    @plangullible6487 2 месяца назад +1

    Love your videos. I have the Salt Supply Pistol. Can I increase the Joules with a longer barrel or would it decrease the speed and accuracy?

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      Thank you so much, absolutely. A longer barrel will always increase accuracy, power, and range because it gives the round more time to travel. However, keep in mind then when you’re using a round ball, these are essentially modern day muskets :-) if there’s no rifling in the barrel or no twist to the round, it’s all about velocity.

    • @plangullible6487
      @plangullible6487 2 месяца назад +1

      @AlternateArmsSD Thanks for info. I was considering buying a 14" Tippman Barrel. Or is this a bad idea?

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      @@plangullible6487 Little tough to conceal but it should new brutal :)

    • @plangullible6487
      @plangullible6487 2 месяца назад

      @@AlternateArmsSD Thanks again for the info. I guess it would look like the Joker's Gun from the 1989 Batman Movie 😂😂. Have a great weekend..

  • @isghaakjattiem5954
    @isghaakjattiem5954 2 месяца назад +1

    Need to get a modded hdr68 and throw it in the mix.

  • @-SLEAZY-
    @-SLEAZY- Месяц назад +1

    Do you know if the Grimburg Gavel no executioner or jury , can pop out shaped rounds ? Because using my round aluminum makes it bounce alot unless it's weak material but if I can used a sharp tip round or any shape round that go forward I bet it can pierce a type of metal... So for short too long don't read ...
    CAN THESE FIRE SHAPED ROUNDS?

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  Месяц назад

      Alas, not yet. However, the JUL rounds are brutal!

    • @-SLEAZY-
      @-SLEAZY- Месяц назад

      @@AlternateArmsSD more brutal than aluminium 7g-8g?

  • @123catz
    @123catz 2 месяца назад +1

    Do you think the hdp50 with the valve block removed is more powerful than all these guns?

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      Not really. There are major differences between the launchers and the caliber is the primary difference. Also, each of these is capable of putting out MUCH more power than the HDP50 (Particularly the gavle). That being said, there is a cost difference. These are much more than the HDP50.

    • @123catz
      @123catz 2 месяца назад +1

      Idk I put a steel rubber ball through a betty crocker pan from like 20 feet away

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      @@123catz Oh, I know. I have done a ton of tests with the HDP50 and I love them. However, it’s a matter of mass and speed. You can’t go wrong with either one.

    • @123catz
      @123catz 2 месяца назад +1

      @AlternateArmsSD I want to do more tests it's just too loud for my location lmao 😆

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      @@123catz ooohhh yeah… they are loud :)

  • @elliottlang9100
    @elliottlang9100 2 месяца назад +1

    I assume they would also work okay in the Byrna SD as well, yes?

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      Yes they would! In fact, where is from Grimburg that they were actually able to get an extra joule or two out of the byrna by using those JUL rounds.

    • @elliottlang9100
      @elliottlang9100 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AlternateArmsSD- I'll buy some from you when you get them.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      @@elliottlang9100 I’m going to talk to them this week. Stay tuned :)

  • @MultiSkyman1
    @MultiSkyman1 2 месяца назад +1

    Jon, I sent my Gavle in for an examination. The trigger is super stiff and unusable for me. I got it back, and nothing has changed!
    Not sure what to do now? Was thinking of sending it to you for an autopsy. Also, did you notice Grimburg has a new O-ring upgrade
    for the Gavle so that you can leave it pressurized much longer than the list 5 minute limit. Anyway, very disappointed.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      Hey Brother, I know they are monitoring this chat. Let’s get Kurt involved.

    • @grimburglesslethal
      @grimburglesslethal 2 месяца назад +1

      Hi! The trigger pull is 4 lbs. That's typical on a carry gun, for safety. We test every launcher that goes out and is returned to us. If it still seems difficult, could you ask someone else to try it and see what they think? Have you shot any firearms?

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      Hey man, tell you what, shoot me an email and I’ll have you send it to me and I’ll compare it side-by-side with the one I have. They are right on the trigger pull. I have seen extremely wild variations between trigger poles. Watcher you think would be very light like the Glock 17 or some of the heavier polls, whereas launchers like the TRP which seem like they would be heavy or almost like a feather. However, until I see the one you have, I can’t really give you an educated guess :-)

    • @MultiSkyman1
      @MultiSkyman1 2 месяца назад

      @@grimburglesslethal Yes I own several firearms and even two cannons for reenacting! I also own the Salt Supply S2, Byrna LE, Umarex HDR .68, .50 and HDP .50.
      All easy to fire. Actually, when I first got Gavle the trigger was working better and my friend shot it and
      my others. He did not like the Gavle at all. Only the LE and S2. Anyway, how bout I send it back one more time
      for a closer inspection? Will include the Co2 I was using.

    • @MultiSkyman1
      @MultiSkyman1 2 месяца назад

      @@AlternateArmsSD Jon, Sounds good. Lets see what Kurt has to say.
      Kenny,

  • @MrVictor257
    @MrVictor257 2 месяца назад +1

    were the shots you fired pepper rounds especially the crystals?

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      No, those white rounds are glass breakers. I do have videos using test pepper rounds though and they work quite well :-)

  • @clayc124
    @clayc124 2 месяца назад +4

    Getting hit with a kinetic round is no joking matter, either.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      Agreed!!!

    • @Joreel
      @Joreel 2 месяца назад +2

      Nope... They hurt like hell. I know from personal experience 🤣

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      @@Joreel Yeah, Ive taken a hit from an HDP 50 and a Byrna EP... but I have NO desire to take a hit from any of these ESPECIALLY the grimburg!

  • @CtyCmt6117
    @CtyCmt6117 2 месяца назад +1

    I was wondering if they would take a teenage punk down..at 20 or less feet ?

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      At less than 20 feet most of these will cause some serious damage. Also, keep in mind that you need to use a high-quality pepper ball in your self-defense scenario. I typically alternate my rounds.

  • @travisnelson8230
    @travisnelson8230 2 месяца назад +1

    Jeff Mcay gonna test the bad boys. Bet better than Umerex pepper.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      Hehe Jeff and I talk quite a bit. It’s not something he’s looking forward too :)

    • @travisnelson8230
      @travisnelson8230 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AlternateArmsSD I can't say I blame him. We got a sauce where I cook called nuke sauce. I choke just from rinsing the sauce. I hate to think how bad the powdered stuff would be.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      @@travisnelson8230 yeah, and the finder the powder, the more effectively it’s dispersed. It doesn’t take much to really mess somebody up :-)

  • @HookahBarBusiness
    @HookahBarBusiness 2 месяца назад +2

    Byrna all the way. The others are goofy and a pain to charge.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад

      Byrna is the big dog on the LTL block for sure :)

    • @protocolsev
      @protocolsev 2 месяца назад +1

      I agree particularly with the Gavle. The power is always very impressive but if they even had a strike to charge system I think it’d be better

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      @@protocolsev Give them time :)

    • @Joreel
      @Joreel 2 месяца назад +3

      Just wait til the Solstice is finally released sometime in 2025 😎

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      @@Joreel Oh, my eyes are on it. I’m hoping shotshow will reveal a bit :)

  • @J-GIB
    @J-GIB Месяц назад +1

    if someone shot me with that I would laugh and put a 10mm straight in their face!
    btw your cute pepper rounds dont really hurt. my friends and I used to chase each other on dirt bikes and shoot each other with them. it didnt hurt and we were like 12

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  Месяц назад +6

      Nice try "Tough Guy" but they are not what you think. I suppose that police departments, militaries, and private security companies all over the planet got it wrong but you have the inside scoop huh :) If someone shot you with a Gavle within 20 feet, the only thing you're doing is crying for mommy and praying the next round doesn't come your way :) Add in the pepper rounds.. Oh, did I mention prisons use it as well, and your weeping, coughing, and puking while your buddies ride by on their Schwinn's laughing at you. Thanks for watching!

  • @user-zl3qz3pz5z
    @user-zl3qz3pz5z 2 месяца назад +1

    Do you get all your self defense toys from the mailing system? I just don't believe in fronting my money out. Trust issues...

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      Greetings, most of the ones that I test on the channel come from different manufacturers or companies that want to have them highlighted and shown to people. However, I ordered quite a few on my own to bring to you guys as well. In fact, that’s the entire goal of this channel. I want to show you guys exactly what you will get when you buy one of these before you shell out your hard-earned money. That being said, I’ve never had an issue with him coming through the mailing system, per se. I certainly do understand trust issues though :-)

    • @user-zl3qz3pz5z
      @user-zl3qz3pz5z 2 месяца назад +1

      @AlternateArmsSD Thank you for your info. I'm new at this channel, so im wondering if you have done the Huben GK1? It says it kicks a 45 j.

    • @AlternateArmsSD
      @AlternateArmsSD  2 месяца назад +1

      @@user-zl3qz3pz5z i’ve actually sent them quite a few emails and I haven’t gotten a response yet. I’ll stay on top of it though.