More Arizona politicians accused of forging signatures
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- Опубликовано: 18 апр 2024
- Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes asks the Attorney General's Office to investigate. Dennis Welch reports.
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Politicians who get caught retire. Civilians who get caught go to jail.
Ya do they actually got jail? Hm... I think it gets lost in the courts and nothing happens.
AND they said they could be banned from running for five years!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT?? - THEY SHOULD BE BANNED FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@mchrysogelos7623 Meanwhile, if I as a civilian commit, say, food stamp fraud, I can never qualify for them again. And rightly so. But politicians and corporate heads consistently get away with similar and worse.
In the past.
Retire? That's not teaching them anything
Toss them all in jail
The Attorney General will investigate and blame Trump!!!
@@lawrencedobesh776 or they will blame those who alerted them to what was going on.
and any questionable signatures should be validated to insure they are citizens of this country. IF they are found to non-citizens there should be recourse... to include deportation.
That’s a criminal charge, right?! If not, then it should be chargeable .
Its criminal if I did it, politicians have some leeway.
Only if there's proof. Accusations are not proof.
@@carolinematusevich889 According to the report, Austin Smith admitted to forging signatures for his own candidacy.
how cute. you think the ruling class is going to get in trouble
@@cubey , the only thing they rule is their false ideas of control. It’s all in their heads.
Ha! Harsh penalties for politicians? What a LIE!
Seems cold court rooms is punishment enough for some. The farting type.
It's astounding that Trump is allowed to be out on bail in four different cases, with 88 felony charges including espionage. Not only is he out on bail he's allowed to see security briefings because all Presidential candidates who will be on the ballot are allowed that privilege.
A former boss committed embezzlement. Our company tried to include me in her crime but I was able to provide copies of my signature from the same time frame that proved it was not my signature. Because my boss's crime crossed state lines and involved federal funds, I even was interviewed by the FBI, thanks to the lies by my boss and employer. Thank goodness the truth was found out. Anyone who lies in government should be banned from any office and charged.
Exactly
“Anyone who lies in government should be banned from any office and charged.“
ROFL
Sooooo Every Single Politician EVER!!! ????
If you are a liar, the Democratic Party will recruit you! 😂😢
The Washington Post's fact-checkers documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during Trump's presidential term, an average of about 21 per day. That's beyond telling a few fibs. Not only did he lie while in office he's currently charged with felonies while in office and is on trial right now for an election interference conspiracy that started before the election and went into his term as President that gave him an unfair advantage in the election and arguably would have prevented him from being elected at all. What's a more harsh sentence than jail?
@@73NF14Ret Looks like both parties are hiring in Arizona.
How many fake signatures have they done in the past?
It can’t be the first time
Were you asleep in 2020? AZ was 10s of thousands and nationally was 11 million or more
Arizona is a mess!!! Something has to be done or a Republican hasn’t got a chance!!!!
No doubt every election they cheat. How else do you explain how someone as unpopular as our state rep’ Ted Cruz keeps getting elected? Even here in Texas, no one defends him in any comment section, on any message board.
"This might not be the first time cheating, but it's the first time you were caught."
some might lose their job, but none of them will ever see the inside of a prison
Exactly
If you start sending them to prison for several years, it's going to continue.
they will probably only lose their job for a short time, and can run again. such is our INJUSTICE system.
Dirty politics, crimes, it all stinks
So it's better to just have a dictator? Is that what your point is?
@@Chez8922-kf6cy Yawn, the Pentagon hates him. Just more lesser evil diatribe. The people will have 5 choices on the ballot, so they dont have to choose between the "Potato" or the "Dictator".
@@Chez8922-kf6cywhat do you think we have now??? We have the guy that says the border is closed as over ten million illegals come in and destroy our country. He doesn’t follow ANY laws! Supreme Court said no payment on school loans, he doesn’t care, he made people get shots, now people are dying, he has no
Conscience ! He doesn’t care about the American people at all…… and you think Trump is a dictator??? You’ve got to be kidding???!!!!
does 2020 election's ring a bell ?
Yup MAGAt degenerates not accepting they lost doing everything they can to overthrow a free and fair election.
11,780 bells actually.
@@Chez8922-kf6cythey get just enough for Dems to win and then quit… that’s how they count in AZ
But it was THE MOST safe and secure election EVER!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Yes it was. This has nothing to do with that. Are you brain dead? Don't bother to answer, that is a rhetorical question.
Actually, it was. It was thoroughly investigated. The majority of the very few fraud cases that were discovered were committed by trump supporters.
No integrity
They should be charged with forgery and identity theft.
Should be banned from politics in all 50 states for life, a large fine and at least a year in jail.
OMG, I AM SO SHOCKED!
Haha ! Soooo shocked 😳
Started by signing / forging their parents signatures as kids!
Good point. I was never brave enough to do that.
Could be banned for running for office for up to 5 years?! Yeah, that's a harsh penalty all right...
my sentiments exactly. I read about the wife (Vietnamese woman) of a man running for an office, who committed MANY counts of election fraud for her husband by going to the Vietnamese community and "helping" them fill out their ballots by "translating" for them and told them many lies about the process. They charged her with 52 ? counts - she was found guilty. It carried 5 years for each count (adding up to 200+ years). What did she get? 8 months; 3-4 months served in jail, and the rest on house arrest; her husband ended up resigning from the position although NOT as a member of the board (it was some "city council" type position of some sort).
Banned for life and 5 years in jail
The Potato got 81 million votes.
Going to get over a hundred million this time as former Republicans are voting for Biden in droves thanks to RvW.
Trump is a crook and he is dumber than a potato, senile crooked and a fool!
@@yelleryoung5870omg, you are too funny 😆. If anything the left will find a way to steal another election. Maybe with illegal migrants votes.
Delusional
mostly from dead people or other potatoes.
Corrupt politicians? I'M SHOCKED! 😂 That's not only impossible, but improbable. 😉 Mrs. B
Scam Artist system
Nobody is trying to fix the root problems we have in this country. Everyone is stuck focusing on making enough money so that the problems don't apply to them anymore.
That's capitalism for you. Self-interest before the public interest.
I would say that capitalism works beautifully as long as everybody remembers that we all are in the same boat together-if it takes on water we all will sink. It’s corporate capitalism that is killing society in this case. Corporations exist to prey off of the public now when once they were a positive force for spreading the wealth around.
If the market was as truly free as it could be you'd get things back like child labour, slavery/indentured servitude, company town/ company dollars instead of real currency, increased environmental damage, no useable roads except nearest to the biggest of companies, and emergency services would cost enough to bankrupt 99% of people (but that's already like that in the states where insurance rules by force).
The free market needs regulation because markets are never actually free nor fair, they'll always be able to be ruled by who has most command and control right from the start. I'd argue how dumb a person is depends on how little regulation they think it really does need in order to be as fair as possible.
@@kkirsch3583"Corporations exist to prey off of the public now when once they were a positive force for spreading the wealth around."
That is what happens when politicians get involved in business. Politician: do it my way or I will get a law or regulations put into place that will screw your company.
@@gabrielfair724
If government did its job and protected the rights of all people, that would not happen. Unfortunately, the historical default of governments is far worse than business. Business has always done what government has allowed them to do.
Democide:
Open quote.
University of Hawaii
R.J. Rummel New Brunswick, N.J.: Transaction Publishers, 1994.
"DEATH BY GOVERNMENT"
61,911,000 Murdered: Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
35,236,000 Murdered: People's Republic of China
20,946,000 Murdered: National Socialist Germany
10,214,000 Murdered: The Nationalist Regime
5,964,000 Murdered: Japan's Savage Military
2,035,000 Murdered: Communist Party of Kampuchea in Cambodia
1,883,000 Murdered: Turkey's Genocidal Purges
1,670,000 Murdered: Vietnam
1,585,000 Murdered: Poland's Ethnic Cleansing
1,503,000 Murdered: The Pakistani State
1,072,000 Murdered: socialist Yugoslav
1,663,000 Murdered? North Korea
1,417,000 Murdered? Mexico
1,066,000 Murdered? Feudal Russia
Close quote.
JAIL TIME NOW.
Treason/Traitors !
Proceed !
There needs to be criminal charges with harsh felony time.
Ohh banned for 5 years ! How about some jail time?
Have a rally in front of government building. Demand justice
Get them all.
Wait they said signatures did not matter in 2020. Yet now they do?
It's a well-known fact that exposure to Covid-19 causes "muscle amnesia," which results in the patient being unable to reproduce their own signature for a period of 2 to 5 years.
@@i.marchand4655 like it very droll
People get paid for each signature they get, put a ban on these paid signature gatherers and maybe it might stop.
Yep, we see a bunch of those "political job" postings on craigslist and such around election time.
Almost all of them are democrat and funded by million/billionaires.
They are guilty.
they should see the inside of a prison cell for some years of their lives.
Just accusations. Typical. Well find out in a year or 2 when courts finally decide to do something.
If you think this is bad just wait until November's tally.
But nothing nefarious in 2020, Gotcha.
Its a conspiracy theory; that means we have to pretend nothing happened until the MSM can benefit from it.
And they keep telling us the system isn't broken.....
"Our election system is a joke, just let dictators and godly haters pick." ~one party, guess which.
🏳️🌈
Exactly vote blue
@@yolyprog2561 You are the winner, it is those that vote blue that make government a joke
The (D)ims.
Rules for thee not me. None of these people will suffer consequences. Ever
Banned for 5 years. Gee let’s not treat them too harshly. How about for starters banned for life.
5 years that's it, I don't think so.
If you watch the whole segment, some have resigned, some are still under investigation and some have been cleared.
If it's a politician, judge, DA, attorney, cop, it's a lying corrupt criminal.
Must vote early and must deliver your main--in ballot. Don't mail back into the post office. Your country depends on it.
I have only ever voted IN PERSON.
@@mchrysogelos7623 Vote early
We are all Americans first, no matter what color you're skin, we all stand behind the Stars and Stripes and what the Flag stands for. Our Forefathers fought and died to protect Our Freedoms. We owe it to our children and grandchildren to fight for their Freedoms and Future.
Put them all in jail.
The playbook of every fascist throughout history states, "always accuse your opponent of exactly what you plan to do".
When the federal government does sketchy things it just makes locals feel like they have the right to do it too
Drain the Swamp. How Pathetically Criminal.
Arizona has become so corrupt 😔
The people who were caught forging signatures, and resigned....why aren't they ARRESTED???!!!!
Imagine if a new organization reporting on a story like this would have looked a little deeper and gotten the numbers on how many claims were filed against each of the two parties… that seems like important information…
Let's go back to the way it was. Voter ID and paper ballots.
sounds like the reporter is helping sweep the corruption under the rug
NEVER VOTE FOR ANOTHER DEMOCRAT & watch how cities will thrive.
Arizona politics seems to be corrupt. Why?
It happens in a corrupt society. They elect those that will let it continue. They get what they deserve. That or they cheated their asses off and got away with it because they have people protecting them.
have you been following Georgia's? or Chicago's? or NY's??? it is not an isolated incidence, it is a WIDESPREAD VIRUS.
@@randywise5241we didn’t vote for them!!
Ahhh, the usual unbiased well thought out nonpartisan comments. Viva Arizona!
Investigate this
I didn't even know CV Woods died. I live under a rock. 😒
You and me both friend!!
never heard of the person...
Back when Rudi Giuliani was running the show in NY city, part of his success was from his policy of "community policing". That if you took care of the annoying petty crime stuff, the bigger things will occur less. That there was a malaise and permissiveness and corruption that set in, if you didn't take care of the "little things". Like allowing the house on the corner be a crack den. It drove down the rest of a neighborhood. So arrest the guy pissing on the side of the little ladies house when she calls. See a kid break a window? Bother to go get the kid and talk to his parents. By doing that, you send a message that lawlessness isn't in vogue anymore.
So the last election cycles, when the voting irregularities that have always been a issue that never are publicly chased down and very publicly dealt with, with people actually arrested instead of ignoring it. By addressing the political corruption, regardless of party in power, doing so sends a message that its not going to be tolerated. Given the last election and the rampant irregularities STILL not fixed or people being convicted in a very public and transparent way. It leads to a arrogance a malaise, a feeling of status quo that leads marginally corrupt people to feel emboldened to being even more audacious. THAT'S why there is this sharp increase in fake votes and signatures, "We got away with it last time, what the heck, lets do more!"
The corruption has to be cleaned up in AZ...starting with Katie Hobbs.
100%
For what?
Lock u.p. Kari Lake
Circular reasoning fallacy in a nutshell
Circular reasoning, also known as begging the question, is a logical fallacy in which the conclusion of an argument is assumed in one of the premises. In a nutshell, it’s when you use the thing you’re trying to prove as part of your argument. It’s a faulty form of reasoning because it doesn’t provide any new or valid evidence to support your claim; instead, it just restates the same idea differently. This makes circular reasoning a fallacious and unconvincing form of argumentation.
Nope. Starting instead with the Pentecostals and other Trinity denying cultists who created this chaos and demoralized a nation.
We must have bi-partisan Commitee to investigate all allegations filed in the state of AZ and make the report public within 6 months after the election! For those who cheated must be disqualified from ever running for any public office. We must have fair and clean election to restore people’s confidence!
Scandalous
In Arizona? Say it ain't so.
Alright, bad enough fire. The entire government hire all new people. They need to know they work for us.
Thats how you got your governor arizona!
Circular reasoning fallacy in a nutshell
Circular reasoning, also known as begging the question, is a logical fallacy in which the conclusion of an argument is assumed in one of the premises. In a nutshell, it’s when you use the thing you’re trying to prove as part of your argument. It’s a faulty form of reasoning because it doesn’t provide any new or valid evidence to support your claim; instead, it just restates the same idea differently. This makes circular reasoning a fallacious and unconvincing form of argumentation.
LMFAO. 🤤 First, maybe that’s how the governor had as close of an election as she had. She should’ve won by 60%, but the insane woman on the other side is the one that used fraud to get as close as she did. Yeah I guess because something is bouncing around in your head as something you already believe, then whatever you hear you automatically count it as proof to what you already believed in the first place. You don’t see a little bitty problem with that? smh
And second, it’s obvious you have limited “capacity“, I will phrase it that way to be polite, because there’s a huge difference between faking signatures while sitting at someone’s kitchen table and being able to fakethousand signatures and actually hiring thousand people to go out and get mail out of peoples mailbox or go to their local facilities to act like there’s someone else to cast their vote. And these type of accusations have been around when everybody was voting in person, because the truth is this is more about dividing people and causing them to be angry because you want them to get out an even larger numbers than it is about telling the truth.
Through a fair and secured election? Whatever you say, Boris.
@@carolinematusevich889 1 Timothy 2:12, ” I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.”
They’re practicing for November.
You mean like the Republicans mentioned in this video too? Because if you’re talking about them as well, then fine.
You gotta go, Marlene if ya cheated!
In these cases I always use a simple test! Ask the cheat if they will be happy for a surgeon to operate on them or their child, who we know has fake qualifications?
Time to look into California then
After we arrest Ken Paxton of Texas for removing over 2 million Democrat votes from the roles.
He admitted to it.
Fraud, cheating is normal and expected now. Forging signatures is the least of what these criminals do.
its not just forgery they committed if they are giulty
they also committed uttering which is the passing of forged documents
they ALSO committed fraud.
Orrrr, they could have just got caught forging signatures.
The steal is on.
And the let the election fixes begin.... We should have to validate our request for early voting in every election. We also need to have double the number of poll watchers, and no after hours ballot deliveries, or counting unless supervised by both parties.... I see advertisements for polling help... I just hope they are all citizens of this country.. and not just green card holders... any one near our elections should be citizens of the USA.
Imagine that..
Comment section doesn't understand the word allegation. Stupefying.
Insensitive.?! Why bypass this? 🇺🇸♾️😎
Shocked!!Shocked I tell You!!!
Lock them all out and keep them out of any public office!
Arizona? Shocking.
Banned from running for Office for 5 years?? The Ban should be permanent! They should also be charged with Fraud!
Omg really😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂???
It's clear that the first guy personally forged signatures, but did all of them? Often politicians or initiative supporters pay companies to circulate petitions etc. to get signatures, and the people who collect them are paid per signature. That can lead to abuses, but the fraud is a financial one by the signature collecting companies, not a political crime by the person who is running or trying to get an initiative passed.
Dam it’s sickening
Is it the politicians or the folks collecting the signatures? Surely, these pols aren’t sitting at their desks writing names down.
They could be, but there isn't enough info here
politicians going to jail? nahhh
Time for jail!
Good job people
They/ media will reflect the truth and call it a lie.
Expected in other states next .
We are being attacked, there are characters getting ready for November steal...
I personally believe, it’s a time of the times!
Jeremiah 17:5-11 KJV
Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.
Sketchy as usual in AZ
No wonder Arizona's highways have turned into gravel roads.
Are you shocked? This is what they do.
If only there was a way to ensure voter integrity... like requiring voter ID.
It’s clear to me that you don’t even understand what they’re talking about in this video.
When caught they should receive 5 years automatically for their fraud .
Put all of those election criminals in prison gosh darn it!
If they get elected don't the automatically have...qualified immunity?
Are those charges civil or criminal for forgery,
asking for a friend.
I thought this stuff never happens? Enough with the gaslighting. We all know what happened in 2020.
IKR? Trump and Republicans attempted a coup FFS. WTF??
and mexico will pay for the wall
@@LarsSmith-rv4ot and they did with the renegotiated NAFTA/USMCA!
@@Thrashedcrow Even goofball ex-prez said there was no way to get money from Mexico for the wall but keep working on excuse making. BTW, he should know being the genius that he is (well, says he is).
I'm curious. Out of thousands of signatures how do they find the forged ones?