MPE Sound Design in Surge XT: Initial Patch

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @kitegiedraitis65
    @kitegiedraitis65 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you so much for this excellent video!
    I notice you didn't disable the rate of the timbre LFO. I tried disabling it and I think I got the problem you were talking about. So should it be disabled?

    • @thoughtFormMax
      @thoughtFormMax  8 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, it should be disabled. I didn't notice that mistake and it messed me up for days after, didn't realize it was actually in the video. I wonder if I can add an annotation. If it's enabled, it will act like an envelope and your timbre will stay at maximum once it reaches the end of its cycle, regardless of what your fingers are doing. So this isn't the problem I was talking about, but it would not surprise me if they're related somehow. Thanks for noticing!

    • @thoughtFormMax
      @thoughtFormMax  8 месяцев назад +1

      I think this is the answer. Phase set to 0 with 95% modulation from the timbre curve is always wrong, but if rate is enabled it will basically override the midi input and hide the problem. So no problem, except your Y-axis control won't do anything. However if you set phase = 50% and modulation = 45%, and disable the rate, everything works properly. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction! I will take a minute to explain it in the next video.

    • @kitegiedraitis65
      @kitegiedraitis65 8 месяцев назад

      @@thoughtFormMax Glad I could help!

  • @antobaird
    @antobaird 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks Max - Excellent tutorial. Looking forward episode 2 👍

    • @thoughtFormMax
      @thoughtFormMax  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! I'm excited about episode 2.

  • @christiansprecher2419
    @christiansprecher2419 7 месяцев назад

    This is the first synth tutorial I could follow without problems and without getting lost somewhere in between. Works flawlessly with other MPE controllers, I used the lovely Striso controller.

    • @thoughtFormMax
      @thoughtFormMax  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you, this makes very happy to hear :) I have not heard of the Striso, I will look it up.

    • @mwk1979
      @mwk1979 7 месяцев назад

      Ditto

  • @harryleblanc4939
    @harryleblanc4939 7 месяцев назад

    I ran into the problem with the timbre curve. The problem was that my linnstrument was set for relative. The fix: make the slope bipolar, set initial value to 50%. Worked like a champ.
    Also, for me, I had to set the % effect of pressure on the phase to 50%. Anything over that, and I'd get weird dropoffs. But 50% worked great for pressure from quiet to loud.

    • @thoughtFormMax
      @thoughtFormMax  7 месяцев назад

      Yeah, i think we got it figured it out and it's explained in the next video. The trick is in this one, i forgot to disable the "rate" on that curve, which treated the whole thing like an envelope and obscured the fact that I was set up wrong. Your solution for the timbre curve is correct.
      I haven't run across any problems with the pressure curve; I'll keep an eye out for them.
      Thanks for the help!

  • @forrcaho
    @forrcaho 8 месяцев назад +1

    To delete all but one segment when you're editing the response curves, you can right click and choose Create > Minimal MSEG.

  • @丂ムu乇レ
    @丂ムu乇レ 3 месяца назад

    merci beaucoup

  • @mwk1979
    @mwk1979 7 месяцев назад

    OMG. This is fantastic. Sound design in Surge alway seemed so overwhelming. How did you learn how to do this? Thank you! Thank you!

    • @thoughtFormMax
      @thoughtFormMax  7 месяцев назад

      It's mostly just a lot of years spent making my own sounds on a number of different synthesizers. The Nord Lead 2 had a really good manual that helped me get started. But once you learn a few basics you can start experimenting and it gets really fun and you'll be learning on your own. There are lots of great synth teachers on youtube as well.

  • @hansendory
    @hansendory 2 месяца назад

    I get no sound as soon as I turn on MPE Pressure. Can it be a specific setting on my Linnstrument?

    • @thoughtFormMax
      @thoughtFormMax  2 месяца назад

      It could be. In your per-split settings, make sure LOUDNESS/Z is set to chan pressure. Alternatively, press and hold the ChPerNote under midi mode to reset LinnStrument to all the default MPE settings.

  • @catoninetails789
    @catoninetails789 5 месяцев назад

    Do you use a sustain pedal when playing Linnstrument?

    • @thoughtFormMax
      @thoughtFormMax  5 месяцев назад

      Not very often. I do use an expression pedal a lot.

    • @catoninetails789
      @catoninetails789 5 месяцев назад

      @@thoughtFormMax What does it do?

    • @thoughtFormMax
      @thoughtFormMax  5 месяцев назад

      @@catoninetails789 Most often it's mapped to a macro that controls a lot of things. Gain on distortion, reverb or other FX levels, sometimes just the overall volume of the synth. I haven't used it a lot in Surge, but talking about it now it occurs to me that would be a good idea because of the curves discussed in this video. A good response curve is really vital with an expression pedal (at, least, with MY expression pedal) and I usually have to go to some trouble to get one to work. Surge would make that a lot easier.
      For sustain pedal functions, there's usually some way I can achieve those without the pedal. If I need a switch, there are two of them on LinnStrument's panel. If I need sustain, I can map release velocity to increase the envelope release. So I've never really felt like I needed it, although of course, any extra input will give you more options.

  • @Fedor_Tkachev_Music
    @Fedor_Tkachev_Music 8 месяцев назад

    I've been doing it wrong this whole time)))

    • @thoughtFormMax
      @thoughtFormMax  8 месяцев назад +1

      I was going to say "there's no wrong way..." but then i remembered the part where I said "then I'll show you the right way." I stand by it. Maybe if I'd started doing it earlier my fingers wouldn't hurt all the time :)

    • @Fedor_Tkachev_Music
      @Fedor_Tkachev_Music 8 месяцев назад

      @@thoughtFormMax totally! I should learn how to use this approach in Bitwig in general