Quick correction on your "bug with redemption" it's not just redemption but most AOEs you can cast in a wall, it does the same with Gragas Q and it's been in for a while but thanks for the video keep up the great work :) although I'm sad this strat is going to get popularized now and I don't think I'll play it anymore.
That “person who didn’t want to play with sion support” is the coach for a pro team, and should be shamed as much for how he reacted and treats the person who he also calls “the cockroach of oceanic”. Absolutely despicable.
You forgot the part where the yummi adc was actually a coach for a pro team, and that Tilterella was only UNBANNED because he was a league partner, and HAD TO TELL Riot support that he was a league partner.
@@d4s0n282 it wasn't as blatant or intrusive as the Yuumi ADC one (i think), but Tilt gives his explanation/input on how the Swain game messed up his strat in his "Off-Meta Copium" vid
@@YSleepish i dont play jg but ive been autofilled when he's doing this kind of shit, if he cant get into a position to invade he'll start taking your camps instead
For sure. Similar to shen - I dont think Top is even his best role due to the matchups being very hard. Tilterella said he partially stopped playing top because in lots of matchups he just had to afk and not die
Before I stopped playing about 4 years ago, I used to do things like this while playing teemo. Pick teemo top, focus on not dying early and farm, and once I hit my six go "full vietnam". Everytime I had shrooms available I went to the enemy's jungle to plant them Every camp the jungler tries to take is trapped, and he can't go into any corridor without stepping on a shroom. I'd even use TP to get back to my lane after planting a dozen shrooms on the bot side of their jungle when my own botlane is getting too pressured. Shrooms also act as a makeshift ward, since they have small vision, thus revealing anyone who steps on them or destroys them. It's like having 20+ extra wards spread accross the map to track the enemy's whereabouts. Simply put : I turned the enemy's jungle hostile to him so he wouldn't be able to move as he wanted to. Surprisingly effective, and guaranteed to cause a lot of salt
I used to play like that too like capture their blue jungle like full of shroom in their jungle as soon as you destroy their first tower. But it isn't as fun anymore bc liandry's is separate into 3 item and like you have to buy all 3 to have the same old shroom dmg.
I played against this yesterday as mundo and 1v2ing the enemy was actually the most fun game I've had in a long time. Constantly having to track both junglers, counter invading, 1v1ing sion and quickly catching up in gold. I wish riot would embrace off meta strats such as double jungle as I've been playing this game for 10 years.
Tilterella was the OG sion main. I don't even know why Baus got popular when Tilt has been doing whatever he was doing and more way before him. Good to see him getting recognition he deserves. He's the best Sion main I believe. And not only that, he has also brought out some very spicy working off meta builds like Sejuani Mid / veigar + ziggs bot etc which me and my friends used a lot.
nah if you watch both you would know that baus and tilterella have a very diff sion playstyles they are not the same like at all. Sion is a champ that look simple from the outside but really complex from the inside.
I found tilterellas channel roughly a couple months ago and my god is the content amazing and the music he chooses is even better, it’s amazing to watch
As soon as I saw the thumbnail I knew who you were talking about. Tilt is hands down my favorite content creator because he plays off meta strats all the time.
Another banger! This time with Tilterella! I’ve been watching his recent videos too. This excites me to hear he has the spotlight for your vids. Well deserved. Keep up the great work!
I love this kind of strategy (like Inting sion) and it's a shame that Riot reaction is to remove them from the game. The 5 current roles were not there at the start of the game, is something the community created but now riot has decided that this is the only way league is allowed to be played, anything else is something that must be fixed.
@@d4s0n282 It's only toxic because people would rather die than adapt, preferring their afk comfortable game style and blaming anyone who ints than actually thinking and playing with the mental to get anything done.
@@danello9091 no its 100% a toxic strat even if you know what your doing(which 99.99% of people dont) I think the strat is cool and awesome of such a offmeta strat, but its not fun to play against or play with
@@d4s0n282 I've played against a duo jg+mid, the mid would just push and invade with the jungler or the other side of my jungle, they would steal everything from my jungle. It's almost the same as that sion strat. I couldn't fight because I was underleveled or outnumbered and there was nothing I could do. But duo is not offmeta so it's fine.
@@danello9091 "rather die than adapt" sound very good and all, but do You realize what League players are like? I'm always on the hunt for the next sleeper OP offmeta thing. I nailed a couple of them, slept on some others. I did AP Janna before Riot was forced to nerf her into oblivion (which took almost a year). Did AP Yi. AP tryndamere. Full AD noc mid. I was playing roaming Sona top 6 months before it was a blip on anyone's radar. Every single time the same thing happens: people flame You, troll You, outright refuse to play. Then few months later it goes mainstream and gets nerfed. I had 65% winrate on Sona top, and it could've been 80, but around 20% of the time people would either not play or actively play against me. So why the long rant? Because the "adapt or die" thing simply doesn't apply when the strategy requires Teammates to adapt as well. And it's particularly jarring when adapting would need You to do things that can get You banned when it doesn't work!
Holy shit, this guy is on of few i know from your previous videos! Dude's amazing and actually started my "i don't care anymore, just play whatever, wherever" thingy and i'm greatfull for that :)
Great video! You forgot to mention that he also takes tp so he can get into the enemy jgl before the enemy jungler in case they trade 1 for 1 (which happens often because of sion passive).
I remember watching tilterella so far back in the day before the baus started playing, this brought back good memories to his invade strategies back then too
I use Nunu smite support in wild rift to make enemy jg useless. Haven't been banned yet. Got me to diamond 2. Hope riot doesn't remove off meta strategy. It's the most fun thing to do in league.
Stupid take. This is like the difference between AP garen and Crit Garen. One is unorthodox, the other quite literally useless. Locking in ghost cleanse is not automatically trolling, not even on nunu. But running it down mid alone in the first 30 seconds is.
What would u think of the same strategy but with shaco? His ganks would be better and even if u get collapsed it's much easier to just escape so it seems pretty hard to punish. The whole invisibility would make it a constant threat on every lane aswell since u don't really know where he is so it could work and even be a better variant no?
This doesn't feel like the first time I've watched this video, but it feels like the first time I've heard the information. I feel like I've absorbed it better than if I saw it before. I play Lux and Orianna supports, sometimes Morgana, and this video has given me a lot of insight into appropriately supporting my own jungler. Thank you! I'll be trying a few things in my new games, probably using Morgana since her clear speed is pretty nutty even without a jungle item.
This is what I love to see, people learning from the creative decisions of others and applying it in their own way. Both appreciating the idea, and improving your own strategy with your newfound knowledge. The creativity of the idea itself made it easier to build on your previous insights, it stretches the rules of the game in your mind. I know it is strange to reply to the comment like this, but this is quite rare and I just really like it.
Would love to see an updated video on Tilterella's smite sion strategy where he takes ghost now and rushes to primal smite so that his team can guarantee control of every objective
Tilt was the first Sion main I knew about, bjergsen once mentioned him on stream as the best Sion in the world. Been subbed ever since his cheese is legendary.
This strat is great for many reasons 1-sion doesn't share xp with his adc creating xp value out of nowhere for his team 2-fuckingnover the enemy jungler money jg item and xp 3- with level adv on adc and probably sion gankingnwhile not behind either enemy bot is mega dead
As an ADC player, I really hope I don't get people inting it down as my support trying to do this. Many support players barely understand how to roam correctly anyway and now they'll be just leaving the lane to steal camps randomly.
I played this too as a former sion otp rocking a very good wo rate. The thing is that some people in your team really don’t know how to work with it and blame the sion, bc it’s just too unconventional for them to see the gain. All I can say is, try to be patient and don’t overestimate kd on this playstyle. You have to see that despite of sion dying to enemies in jngl he will still pull a gold and do lead for your jungler and actually for himself (compared to enemy supp) If you don’t get mad it’s easier to see the plays on the map. (Ppl tend to just perma push lane when tilted ignoring any team play or objectives). I just had a Game like this where a gp was perma flaming but even when I watched the replay I was the reason for our whole team to get an early gold lead, and why we got every single jngl objective. We won btw.
He still gives away gold by dying and you pretty much make your ADC lane 1v2 with no way to counter any kind of dive from enemy bot/mid/jungle. You can't just brush it off as people not knowing how to play with it, it's a stupid tactic with super obvious counters. Just because one guy manages to pull it off (on OCE server!) doesn't make it good, same as it was with inting sion, blitzcrank jungle and many other novelty cheese picks
@@depressedlemur2458 No you are countering dives pretty effectively. Due to constantly rotating and abusing enemy jngl he will not dive youir adc, same for mid who will be either constantly roam to help jngl or will also get ganked by your own roams. If he still decides to roam bot you can just walk up mid and push the enemy tower and wave with your mid, or even alone, so he will lose stuff too. The only champ who really loses out in your team is the adc, for your mid, jngl, supp and sometimes top its a gain. Yes there are situations to return to you adc (for example when a huge wave crashes), but all in all your adc is only suceptible to 2vs1 towerdives. This means this strat is very good vs passive laners and enchanters, as they can not really pull of a 2 man dive with their adc alone. Yes you are giving gold by dying, but you take at least as much by clearing enemy camps plus you definetely wil make him lose xp, which is very very crucial in the early stages of the game. In most of my games even where we lose my team starts with a round about 2k gold lead. (It's super effective with opressive laners, who either wont allow enemy to rotate or make them lose a tn when the laners come to help out) Obv. there is counterplay, but that's with all strats. So it might not always be a blind pick or a good pick in general (with enemy bel veth, a bard, a camille on the enemy team for example) but then again nobody expects this strat in solo q when you lock your champ in. Also generally it requires good macro and vision play. So if you can't read map and do not know when camps are up and how most junglers path when put under pressure, its not the right support pick for you.
@@Schwachsinnn So basically: A) You hope enemy bot doesn't have a duo that can dive your ADC B)You hope enemy bot doesn't have a duo that can chunk your ADC under tower C)You hope enemy jungler/top/mid don't prevent you from contesting their jungle D)If any of these fail (or sometimes not) you need your jungler and mid to waste time covering bot for you And if you pull this strategy off... You still lose bottom side of the map, your ADC loses lane, you have Sion Support, but at least your jungler is slightly ahead of the enemy? Yeah, no wonder this strategy only works for one guy on OCE server
I think we can all appreciate niche strats but I think that calling this strat new is an insult to the origin of this pocket pick. My man AdellaideSkyhart deserves more credit.
@@HappyChimeNoises Fair enough, not to many people remember it but thelolhounds did a few video's on him... those were the early days of off meta builds.
This reminds me of the old days of Singed Smite Support player who got banned for playing this idea. Ofc we learned more about him. Good idea but he wasnt talking with his teammates. PS he won his games.
brother, i don't know why youtube no longer recommended your videos. I honestly thought that you didn't release any new videos. This is a kind reminder for everyone to press the bell to see these amazing videos!
Yes! I love watching Tilt! Of course he can't do this strategy forever, especially since he's on HCN now, hah. They'll simply start diving your adc on large waves making them be down in both EXP and gold. He always seems to find a way to adapt though, so I wouldn't put it past him to change the strat accordingly!
Kinda proud that I found out about him before you made a video on him and before the whole pro coach runs it down as yuumi adc leading to tilt getting wrongfully banned
The first years I played League of Legends (from 2011), I really liked to play Sion. Then it just stopped...probably because I started playing ranked games, and different champs. After watching this video and...well...thebausffs, Sion does seem much more interesting to play. It just didn't cross my mind to play him as a support. It would be nice to breathe some new life into the gameplay of League of Legends, but frankly...at the end of the day, I am not even sure if I want to play it anymore. This is at least a good idea to try out, with the camp stealing or not.
Thank you. I'm not planning on another but zodra is on our discord(link in description) and loves sharing information about it since he hit master with normal Sion supp
Tilterella the REAL SION KING! The man invented so many Sion strategies Riot is more pissed at him than basically any other non-nutjob streamer ever! Furthermore, he was banned because of INSIDE POLITICS. Some Rioter or a friend of some RIOT employee played ADC and hated not having a pocket healer/shield So he proceed to pressure the ban of Tilterella. It's why it got so messy and the game changed the ban and everything.
@@randomcatname7792 Funny isn't it? How a company so large as Riot is standing on a few straws. Which represent very accurately the moral resolution of the people that make decisions up there.
Sion is now two times on the A tier of your list he really is a champion that can be played in any way his E and W scale with ap, I can't wait for a sion ap mid video...
I got a 2 week suspension for playing off meta like this but didn't get it removed unfortunately... Riot new ban system sucks because I was on a 7 game win streak with a 70% wr in my gold promos too...
used to do the exact same strategy 3 months ago but with telling my team to say in all chat sion/heca afk pls report at the min 1:25 and it works in low elo bcuz u know ur teammates dont ward ur jgl which makes it easier for the enemy to invade
As a former sion otp I picked up this pick months ago and actually started rocking up to a 70 win rate in high gold (created an extra account for it to not get my main account banned xD)
I just got done after winning a 4v5 with sion in support. His W passive with support item lets you kill minions. and it still gives stacks. not as many as in solo lane granted. very viable.
Not challenger but just a meme strategy I've been playing. Queue jungle, Amumu with exhaust and ignite. Glacial keystone. Camp botlane maybe go mid if you can kill. No farming.
Yo great video man(gonna try this thing when I play), the editing was a bit SCUFFED but still understandable Pd. Nvm just a bug with youtube in my phone
THIS GUY WAS ON MY TEAM MAN IM SO HONORED I GOT TO PLAY WITH HIM Well he had a different name, swapped summoners a 45% winrate and I am like silver BUT DAMN IM HAPPY I GOT TO PLAY WITH HIM
for some more crazy builds on sion support, lethality isn't terrible. I go either glacial or HoB, has worked multiple times in diamond. Although, since more tanks have been appearing I've gone glacial into tank build a lot.
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Quick correction on your "bug with redemption" it's not just redemption but most AOEs you can cast in a wall, it does the same with Gragas Q and it's been in for a while but thanks for the video keep up the great work :) although I'm sad this strat is going to get popularized now and I don't think I'll play it anymore.
That “person who didn’t want to play with sion support” is the coach for a pro team, and should be shamed as much for how he reacted and treats the person who he also calls “the cockroach of oceanic”. Absolutely despicable.
I did this with aatrox then the enemy jungle begged me for mercy
@@MAR_10-x5w what build
This is a very well researched and thought out video. Goodjob, well enjoyed it.
It's always great to see people respond to videos about themselves, this validates HappyChimeNoises as a great RUclipsr
I had to watch 25 games of OCE challenger you owe me my braincells back tilt
Y'all ain't on his level, beetches, Tilterella
Y'all never beat them like an acapella
@@HappyChimeNoises LMAO
@@spookyscarygraviton5944 isnt it "its tilterella"
You forgot the part where the yummi adc was actually a coach for a pro team, and that Tilterella was only UNBANNED because he was a league partner, and HAD TO TELL Riot support that he was a league partner.
i think he didnt put him cuz it would cause hate and drama
you also forgot to mention he did it a 2nd time(although kinda debatable?) he went swain with smite
@@d4s0n282 it wasn't as blatant or intrusive as the Yuumi ADC one (i think), but Tilt gives his explanation/input on how the Swain game messed up his strat in his "Off-Meta Copium" vid
@@travelsizedhispasian thats what I mean, and personally its super obv he was soft trolling
Dire wolves is a pro team LMAO??
Having Tilt and Baus on the same team would be an absolute massacre on the enemy team
Tilterella sion + Baus rammus 💀
Game is finished before evwn starting
Rip enemy jungler
and enemy adc
Bauffs Gragas man OMG
Tilt makes league fun. He's been producing great videos for years.
His 'Challenger in 15 minutes' is a true staple of League
play 2 games with him on your team and you'd want to dodge every time you get him on your team
@@puncakesr5504 hell nah man, madness to challenger ftw
@@puncakesr5504 UNLESS you are playing jungle. then youd 100 percent want tilt on your team.
@@YSleepish i dont play jg but ive been autofilled when he's doing this kind of shit, if he cant get into a position to invade he'll start taking your camps instead
Tilterella is just a legend among sion mains
Sion can be truly played in every role huh?
For sure.
Similar to shen - I dont think Top is even his best role due to the matchups being very hard.
Tilterella said he partially stopped playing top because in lots of matchups he just had to afk and not die
@@HappyChimeNoises or, have the best deaths only a challenger can think of
@@HappyChimeNoises tbh I just play whats fun and for a long time Top Sion has not been fun
@@Tilterella is mid sion good
@@Tilterella agreed that's why I play him adc
I think it's important to note for the Redemption Sion that Heal and Shield power buffs Glacial Augment's slow, so the redemption increases his CC.
Mentioned this in the Zodra Ornn video so didnt want to repeat.
I recommend people watch both :)
Having tllt in your game as an
adc: 😐
jungler: 😊
enemy adc: 🥳
enemy jungler: 👺
both junglers are always 👺
not acurate at all
@@BeHappyTo did you miss the part where he said he makes sure to never actually take from his own jungler?
Before I stopped playing about 4 years ago, I used to do things like this while playing teemo.
Pick teemo top, focus on not dying early and farm, and once I hit my six go "full vietnam".
Everytime I had shrooms available I went to the enemy's jungle to plant them
Every camp the jungler tries to take is trapped, and he can't go into any corridor without stepping on a shroom. I'd even use TP to get back to my lane after planting a dozen shrooms on the bot side of their jungle when my own botlane is getting too pressured.
Shrooms also act as a makeshift ward, since they have small vision, thus revealing anyone who steps on them or destroys them. It's like having 20+ extra wards spread accross the map to track the enemy's whereabouts.
Simply put : I turned the enemy's jungle hostile to him so he wouldn't be able to move as he wanted to.
Surprisingly effective, and guaranteed to cause a lot of salt
I like it
I used to play like that too like capture their blue jungle like full of shroom in their jungle as soon as you destroy their first tower. But it isn't as fun anymore bc liandry's is separate into 3 item and like you have to buy all 3 to have the same old shroom dmg.
I played against this yesterday as mundo and 1v2ing the enemy was actually the most fun game I've had in a long time. Constantly having to track both junglers, counter invading, 1v1ing sion and quickly catching up in gold. I wish riot would embrace off meta strats such as double jungle as I've been playing this game for 10 years.
I knew the moment I saw the title that this would be Tilts episode. I was so excited I clicked immediately!
These videos just show how complex and deep the strategy in this game really is.
Tilterella was the OG sion main. I don't even know why Baus got popular when Tilt has been doing whatever he was doing and more way before him. Good to see him getting recognition he deserves. He's the best Sion main I believe. And not only that, he has also brought out some very spicy working off meta builds like Sejuani Mid / veigar + ziggs bot etc which me and my friends used a lot.
Awesome, do you know what tilterella's main accounts opgg are?
Probably because of server difference
@@malnourishd1 It's pretty much a different account in challenger every season.
nah if you watch both you would know that baus and tilterella have a very diff sion playstyles they are not the same like at all. Sion is a champ that look simple from the outside but really complex from the inside.
@@AgentYellowWang dont think thats what he meant, think he meant why did he not get any more popular while till doing omega off meta stuff
In chaos there is also opportunity.
- -Sun Tzu- This guy propably
I found tilterellas channel roughly a couple months ago and my god is the content amazing and the music he chooses is even better, it’s amazing to watch
As soon as I saw the thumbnail I knew who you were talking about. Tilt is hands down my favorite content creator because he plays off meta strats all the time.
- Sees thumbnail
- That's 100% Tilterella
Another banger! This time with Tilterella! I’ve been watching his recent videos too. This excites me to hear he has the spotlight for your vids. Well deserved. Keep up the great work!
redemption also gives a bigger slow on glacial augument because its slow scales from healing/shielding power
I love this kind of strategy (like Inting sion) and it's a shame that Riot reaction is to remove them from the game.
The 5 current roles were not there at the start of the game, is something the community created but now riot has decided that this is the only way league is allowed to be played, anything else is something that must be fixed.
to be fair, that kinda thing is reallly toxic fo rthe game itself
@@d4s0n282 It's only toxic because people would rather die than adapt, preferring their afk comfortable game style and blaming anyone who ints than actually thinking and playing with the mental to get anything done.
@@danello9091 no its 100% a toxic strat even if you know what your doing(which 99.99% of people dont) I think the strat is cool and awesome of such a offmeta strat, but its not fun to play against or play with
@@d4s0n282 I've played against a duo jg+mid, the mid would just push and invade with the jungler or the other side of my jungle, they would steal everything from my jungle. It's almost the same as that sion strat. I couldn't fight because I was underleveled or outnumbered and there was nothing I could do. But duo is not offmeta so it's fine.
@@danello9091 "rather die than adapt" sound very good and all, but do You realize what League players are like?
I'm always on the hunt for the next sleeper OP offmeta thing. I nailed a couple of them, slept on some others. I did AP Janna before Riot was forced to nerf her into oblivion (which took almost a year). Did AP Yi. AP tryndamere. Full AD noc mid. I was playing roaming Sona top 6 months before it was a blip on anyone's radar.
Every single time the same thing happens: people flame You, troll You, outright refuse to play. Then few months later it goes mainstream and gets nerfed. I had 65% winrate on Sona top, and it could've been 80, but around 20% of the time people would either not play or actively play against me.
So why the long rant? Because the "adapt or die" thing simply doesn't apply when the strategy requires Teammates to adapt as well. And it's particularly jarring when adapting would need You to do things that can get You banned when it doesn't work!
All of us from the Tilteralla org waited for u to release this video so that this strategy is officially not trolling. Thank u!
Holy shit, this guy is on of few i know from your previous videos! Dude's amazing and actually started my "i don't care anymore, just play whatever, wherever" thingy and i'm greatfull for that :)
its gonna be support top with smite all over again if this vid gets popular 💀
lets hope
I played support as top. Disco Nunu top never go top lane
Great video! You forgot to mention that he also takes tp so he can get into the enemy jgl before the enemy jungler in case they trade 1 for 1 (which happens often because of sion passive).
I remember watching tilterella so far back in the day before the baus started playing, this brought back good memories to his invade strategies back then too
I use Nunu smite support in wild rift to make enemy jg useless.
Haven't been banned yet. Got me to diamond 2.
Hope riot doesn't remove off meta strategy. It's the most fun thing to do in league.
9:28 Can we just take a moment and appreciate this double drifting that's happening before us.
Funny how Yummi ADC smite is automatically called "troll" but Mr Content Creator has the benifit of the doubt and can play everything.
Stupid take. This is like the difference between AP garen and Crit Garen. One is unorthodox, the other quite literally useless.
Locking in ghost cleanse is not automatically trolling, not even on nunu. But running it down mid alone in the first 30 seconds is.
I don't think it would be good but neither should be banned.
What would u think of the same strategy but with shaco? His ganks would be better and even if u get collapsed it's much easier to just escape so it seems pretty hard to punish. The whole invisibility would make it a constant threat on every lane aswell since u don't really know where he is so it could work and even be a better variant no?
If you got blue every game you would be fine
Otherwise he would run out of mana fast and it would be a struggle
This doesn't feel like the first time I've watched this video, but it feels like the first time I've heard the information. I feel like I've absorbed it better than if I saw it before. I play Lux and Orianna supports, sometimes Morgana, and this video has given me a lot of insight into appropriately supporting my own jungler. Thank you! I'll be trying a few things in my new games, probably using Morgana since her clear speed is pretty nutty even without a jungle item.
This is what I love to see, people learning from the creative decisions of others and applying it in their own way. Both appreciating the idea, and improving your own strategy with your newfound knowledge. The creativity of the idea itself made it easier to build on your previous insights, it stretches the rules of the game in your mind.
I know it is strange to reply to the comment like this, but this is quite rare and I just really like it.
Next patch:
Riot: "Ok, MF's, STOP GETTING FUN OF THIS GAME! No more of this offmeta sheet, only one player can use smite and foc you"
No offmeta is the way we tell you to play offmeta. Want to play jungle Blitzcrank?
I've been waiting for tilt to be on this channel for a while now. Glad to see him here
Would love to see an updated video on Tilterella's smite sion strategy where he takes ghost now and rushes to primal smite so that his team can guarantee control of every objective
That Yummi ADC is also a coach for a pro team, you'd assume they'd be better than sacking a game just because they don't like a strategy.
Tilt was the first Sion main I knew about, bjergsen once mentioned him on stream as the best Sion in the world. Been subbed ever since his cheese is legendary.
So he's basically Playing a dota 2 support
And got banned for it.
this support guy truly is a goat, I love how understanding he is compared to the general belief of "corrupt company doesn't listen to players"
You sir, are becoming one of my favorite's choise of entertaining with your great work on these videos!
Keep up with the good stuff!
Many cheers!
this is a start i like to see skills and good thinking not just ramming on the enemy dying and still beign able to win the game with 0/10 deaths
I'm glad I clicked on this video at 5:40 AM
Thank you :)
Awesome video, HappyCHimeNoises! This looks so cool!
YESSSS TILTERELLA FINALLY HAS A VID ABOUT HIM
This strat is great for many reasons
1-sion doesn't share xp with his adc creating xp value out of nowhere for his team
2-fuckingnover the enemy jungler money jg item and xp
3- with level adv on adc and probably sion gankingnwhile not behind either enemy bot is mega dead
Last Season: Smite supports in the top lane
This Season: Smite top laners in support
True league innovation
As an ADC player, I really hope I don't get people inting it down as my support trying to do this. Many support players barely understand how to roam correctly anyway and now they'll be just leaving the lane to steal camps randomly.
Already been inted by a pedophile smite tp sion support twice today. Unfortunately you have to dodge these people
I played this too as a former sion otp rocking a very good wo rate. The thing is that some people in your team really don’t know how to work with it and blame the sion, bc it’s just too unconventional for them to see the gain. All I can say is, try to be patient and don’t overestimate kd on this playstyle. You have to see that despite of sion dying to enemies in jngl he will still pull a gold and do lead for your jungler and actually for himself (compared to enemy supp) If you don’t get mad it’s easier to see the plays on the map. (Ppl tend to just perma push lane when tilted ignoring any team play or objectives).
I just had a Game like this where a gp was perma flaming but even when I watched the replay I was the reason for our whole team to get an early gold lead, and why we got every single jngl objective. We won btw.
He still gives away gold by dying and you pretty much make your ADC lane 1v2 with no way to counter any kind of dive from enemy bot/mid/jungle. You can't just brush it off as people not knowing how to play with it, it's a stupid tactic with super obvious counters. Just because one guy manages to pull it off (on OCE server!) doesn't make it good, same as it was with inting sion, blitzcrank jungle and many other novelty cheese picks
@@depressedlemur2458 No you are countering dives pretty effectively. Due to constantly rotating and abusing enemy jngl he will not dive youir adc, same for mid who will be either constantly roam to help jngl or will also get ganked by your own roams. If he still decides to roam bot you can just walk up mid and push the enemy tower and wave with your mid, or even alone, so he will lose stuff too. The only champ who really loses out in your team is the adc, for your mid, jngl, supp and sometimes top its a gain. Yes there are situations to return to you adc (for example when a huge wave crashes), but all in all your adc is only suceptible to 2vs1 towerdives. This means this strat is very good vs passive laners and enchanters, as they can not really pull of a 2 man dive with their adc alone. Yes you are giving gold by dying, but you take at least as much by clearing enemy camps plus you definetely wil make him lose xp, which is very very crucial in the early stages of the game. In most of my games even where we lose my team starts with a round about 2k gold lead. (It's super effective with opressive laners, who either wont allow enemy to rotate or make them lose a tn when the laners come to help out) Obv. there is counterplay, but that's with all strats. So it might not always be a blind pick or a good pick in general (with enemy bel veth, a bard, a camille on the enemy team for example) but then again nobody expects this strat in solo q when you lock your champ in. Also generally it requires good macro and vision play. So if you can't read map and do not know when camps are up and how most junglers path when put under pressure, its not the right support pick for you.
@@Schwachsinnn So basically:
A) You hope enemy bot doesn't have a duo that can dive your ADC
B)You hope enemy bot doesn't have a duo that can chunk your ADC under tower
C)You hope enemy jungler/top/mid don't prevent you from contesting their jungle
D)If any of these fail (or sometimes not) you need your jungler and mid to waste time covering bot for you
And if you pull this strategy off... You still lose bottom side of the map, your ADC loses lane, you have Sion Support, but at least your jungler is slightly ahead of the enemy? Yeah, no wonder this strategy only works for one guy on OCE server
I think we can all appreciate niche strats but I think that calling this strat new is an insult to the origin of this pocket pick. My man AdellaideSkyhart deserves more credit.
Had never heard of them before today unfortunately and tilterella didn't mention being inspired by anyone.
@@HappyChimeNoises Fair enough, not to many people remember it but thelolhounds did a few video's on him... those were the early days of off meta builds.
This reminds me of the old days of Singed Smite Support player who got banned for playing this idea. Ofc we learned more about him. Good idea but he wasnt talking with his teammates. PS he won his games.
Typing increases your chances you are banned
Finally some Tilteria non-standard stuff :D
Thanks for the video!
brother, i don't know why youtube no longer recommended your videos. I honestly thought that you didn't release any new videos.
This is a kind reminder for everyone to press the bell to see these amazing videos!
Damn thats a shame to hear.
I noticed lots less views and was wondering why
The OG Sion Main before the internet even knew Baus existed.
Sion the best design champ. Provide actual unique gameplay and having so much freedom while being metal af.
Soon by Rito: each team can only pick 1 smite, by the jungler... fuck fun
I am surprised it hasn't happened yet to be honest
YEEES FINALLY A VIDEO ABOUT TILT! he really makes league fun to watch and loves the off meta stuff
Yes! I love watching Tilt! Of course he can't do this strategy forever, especially since he's on HCN now, hah. They'll simply start diving your adc on large waves making them be down in both EXP and gold. He always seems to find a way to adapt though, so I wouldn't put it past him to change the strat accordingly!
i love how funny the support meta is. its a fun role.
Can't wait to see this in my solo q games💀
Kinda proud that I found out about him before you made a video on him and before the whole pro coach runs it down as yuumi adc leading to tilt getting wrongfully banned
The first years I played League of Legends (from 2011), I really liked to play Sion. Then it just stopped...probably because I started playing ranked games, and different champs. After watching this video and...well...thebausffs, Sion does seem much more interesting to play. It just didn't cross my mind to play him as a support.
It would be nice to breathe some new life into the gameplay of League of Legends, but frankly...at the end of the day, I am not even sure if I want to play it anymore. This is at least a good idea to try out, with the camp stealing or not.
I would only believe that if a woman came skimpy dressed on my door, and said that!
This is so fun, love the things Sion can do. Its all so interesting. Are you working on a Sion support video next? Would love to see that.
Thank you. I'm not planning on another but zodra is on our discord(link in description) and loves sharing information about it since he hit master with normal Sion supp
@@HappyChimeNoises Thanks for the info, Ill go check it out right away!
Tilterella the REAL SION KING!
The man invented so many Sion strategies Riot is more pissed at him than basically any other non-nutjob streamer ever!
Furthermore, he was banned because of INSIDE POLITICS. Some Rioter or a friend of some RIOT employee played ADC and hated not having a pocket healer/shield
So he proceed to pressure the ban of Tilterella. It's why it got so messy and the game changed the ban and everything.
Pretty sure the one who got him banned was the one who played smite Yuumi ADC
@@randomcatname7792 Funny isn't it? How a company so large as Riot is standing on a few straws. Which represent very accurately the moral resolution of the people that make decisions up there.
@@randomcatname7792 and said smite Yuumi ADC is a coach for a Pro team 💀
I saw the title and instantly thought "gotta be my boy tilt, right?"
Oh man, haven't seen Tilt content in forever
Sion is now two times on the A tier of your list
he really is a champion that can be played in any way
his E and W scale with ap, I can't wait for a sion ap mid video...
I got a 2 week suspension for playing off meta like this but didn't get it removed unfortunately... Riot new ban system sucks because I was on a 7 game win streak with a 70% wr in my gold promos too...
I don't think off meta is safe anymore
Yeah system is really awful atm, very sad to see
once i saw the invade sion with smite and TP i knew it was gonna be the man tilt himself
Ah yes the tiltirella episode
used to do the exact same strategy 3 months ago but with telling my team to say in all chat sion/heca afk pls report at the min 1:25 and it works in low elo bcuz u know ur teammates dont ward ur jgl which makes it easier for the enemy to invade
Immediately knew it was Tilterella lol, I didn't even know about Baus until later.
As a former sion otp I picked up this pick months ago and actually started rocking up to a 70 win rate in high gold (created an extra account for it to not get my main account banned xD)
I just came here to see how tilts strat is gettin apreciated even though I already know the whole thing fo years :D
I just got done after winning a 4v5 with sion in support. His W passive with support item lets you kill minions. and it still gives stacks. not as many as in solo lane granted. very viable.
You forgot the part where the inting Yuumi was a coach for a pro team in OCE
Not challenger but just a meme strategy I've been playing. Queue jungle, Amumu with exhaust and ignite. Glacial keystone. Camp botlane maybe go mid if you can kill. No farming.
Yo great video man(gonna try this thing when I play), the editing was a bit SCUFFED but still understandable
Pd. Nvm just a bug with youtube in my phone
That moment when he took raptors and stole red buff with smite, god that's insane.
imagine the 6v4 bug occurred and we have bausff int sion on top side and tilterella sion invade sp on the bot side lmao.
Holy shit finally a Tilteralla video, put this video on blast and get that S.O.B. “Coach” the fuck out
Loving your videos for years, I am not good with English, but you are easy to understand.
Thank you!
I love to watch Tilterella, I didn't know he was Chall tho (Because on most of his games it says Emerald/Master elo)
If tilterella ever switched server, that server would fall to chaos
imagine following this plan just for your jungler being an ivern and expecting them to carry you lol
It’s about time Tilt got on here
Omg, I didn't know he was Challenger. It's even more impressive.
This strat is literally to give the enemy jungle emotional damage, tilting them and making them afk
Love it
THIS GUY WAS ON MY TEAM MAN IM SO HONORED I GOT TO PLAY WITH HIM
Well he had a different name, swapped summoners a 45% winrate and I am like silver
BUT DAMN IM HAPPY I GOT TO PLAY WITH HIM
Most likely not him🤷
Tilterella is an absolute king and now I bet he did it just so he could appear in your vids
this is the OG ad Son tbh
"Are Riot that smart" good one.
Redemption best item rush :), interesting video. Always tough to fit in two strats, nonetheless enjoyable. Ty for your efforts
for some more crazy builds on sion support, lethality isn't terrible. I go either glacial or HoB, has worked multiple times in diamond. Although, since more tanks have been appearing I've gone glacial into tank build a lot.
Tilterella is such a good player and also has an on point music taste
i saw the thumbnail and knew who it was gonna be
Oh god Sion Support with Smite only Chime can found something like that! Awesome!
People hate junglers so much that they actively try to make jungling shitty lmao
13:20 “very similar” literally every item is different 😂
Btw that yuumi is a pro coach or something crazy like that. Dude tried to make a video and deny the fact he was clearly trolling.
People too scared of innovation
I dont think giving up support wards is the right way to win, I would mad over this
Oh, vid about Tilterella the real best sion main, nice.
7 years in challenger / OCE dead server.
But i love him haahahha tilterella my boy 😆