So the movie is about a Christian wanting to live a more selfless, charitable life, and Kirk Cameron saves him from going down this path by embracing materialism and idolatry?
He goes off about all that expensive linens n big ham at the end first of all not evryone has even close to the the spread or house Kirk Cameron does it's like he's n sum fake reality n 2nd of all I know a lot of people will disagree on this site or not see it this way but I just luvvvvv how hardcore Christian's of this douchebaggery type like Kirk are never vegan or even vegetarian to me that says u think about shit goin on in the world too n don't just fuckn preach at people
I did think of writing to Kirk to ask, since I have a friend who doesn't eat dairy products, what is the richest vegan margarine; but in the end couldn't be ersed.
I think a good example of someone who could impart the message of Jesus without bible thumping is one of the most sincerely and deeply religious men of the past few decades here in the states, Mr. Rogers. Initially training and planning to become a minister, he decided that kids needed a reaffirming, loving voice on television and went on to create his famous show... Despite clearly being both understanding of his faith and devout in a way I doubt Kirk Cameron can even approach, he never once quoted directly from scripture or focused his episodes on God. Instead, he lived out the message he felt Jesus was trying to convey by teaching children how to be nice to one another, or bringing on physically and mentally challenged children and treating them with the sincere respect they deserved (and even keeping in touch when them throughout their lives thereafter) as opposed to the showpieces they often wind up being on more half-assed shows and films who wish to feign respect for fellow man. He also overcome racial hostilities and tension not via language that would go over a child's head but through simple and symbolic action, such as by inviting the black mailman to put his feet in the same pool as him, a technique clearly inspired by those used by Jesus and others in the bible which is full of foot washing symbolism, though again he DEMONSTRATED instead of LECTURED. Finally, rather than trying to force you into his idea of the perfect child or calling the behavior of others sinful, he'd often close with what I believe is just about the most beautiful line ever spoken on television: "There's no person in the whole world like you; and I like you just the way you are." There were no prerequisites or conditions attached, he simply loved you as a fellow human being just as Jesus, a man who would sit and dine with the sick, sinners, prostitutes, tax collectors, and anyone who would have him, said we ought to. He meant a lot to me, and I feel I learned more of the message that Jesus attempted to impart on the world from him despite never mentioning him or the bible than I have from the combined efforts of every hostile bible thumping evangelist I've since come across. Mr Rogers lived and breathed the best aspects of Christmas every day of his life, and it saddens me that the Mr Rogers of the world have given way to the Kirk Camerons and Pat Robertsons.
Not gonna lie: I used to think Mr Rogers was a dork. After I read about all he did and the lives and souls he touched, I have a new-found respect and admiration for him. Rest In Power, Fred Rogers. No wonder you won the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny.
Agreed. I think that Fred Rogers was probably one of the purest and most sincere men to ever grace this earth with his presence. Yes, he came off as dorky or uncool to some of us 80s kids, but I remember watching a few of his shows after I had matured, and became an adult, and thought to myself, that this man really gets it, and is a near perfect example of what Christianity should be, and how it should be presented. I still remember a show of his, where he was talking about when tragedies happen, to not focus so much on the negative, but look for the helpers.
I have a theory that in this movie's universe, Kirk Cameron might actually be Satan in human form. Throughout the movie, he tells Christian White to basically endorse terrible things such as being greedy (telling him that he is wrong for worrying about the less fortunate and that extreme materialism is good), violence (Santa beating a "heretic" to an inch of his life being "cool") and lies. You can even argue that he is playing with Christian's weak mind to get him to embrace the madness (whenever he makes a point, he stares at Christian until the latter responds in approval as if he is looking forward to Christian's acceptance). He also acts smug, never seeming to be daunted by any problems as if he was overly confident. You can even interpret his winking at the end indicating that he is the Devil in disguise (and is happy that he succeeded in playing into a man's mind to have him endorse selfishness). So yeah, Kirk Cameron in this movie might actually be the Devil. That or he is just a selfish moron. Still, it is fun to come up with crazy theories.
Talking vegetables were the only way I understood the bible as a kid. I'm an outed atheist now, but I still think "Veggie Tales" is a good family show-clean, funny, and creative.
At least Veggietales just gave good morals and likened them to the Bible, while singing ultra-catchy songs (Seriously, that goddamn Hairbrush song) This is just.....WTF?
Probably the most *vile* aspect of this movie is that it's pretty obvious that Kirk Cameron's family is rich, yet he has the goddamn nerve to say that Christmas is about materialism and gluttony.
I wonder what would happen if you tell him: No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. - Matthew 6:24 and It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. - Mark 10:25
Right??? He's all up n that annoying generic lookin party house/stage set with sum dumbass family highjink of the bro n law runnin off like it's a major crisis ya ok 🙄...n the end goin into sum elaborate dining set up n saying imagine the presents are fuckn what? Jersuselum. All I'm thinkn is whaaa why aren't u like showing us sum real shit of ANY kind this sucks ass from beginning to end. No reality cuz that IS that weirdos reality.
I almost wonder if this movie was Kirk Cameron's way of reconciling his religion with his wealth and privilege, but not in a way that meant giving either one up. His conscience was probably eating at him, but rather than do what Jesus would *actually* want him to do during the holidays, like give to the needy and think of others, he thought, "Nope, I like expensive gifts and gorging on party food too much. I'll just make up a bunch of bullsh*t to post hoc justify my greed and assuage my guilt *that* way. Brilliant!"
Speaking as a Christian, even I find myself scratching my head at this stinker! WTF!? Kirk Cameron you DO know most Christmas traditions have pagan origins, and that the Catholic Church was responsible for transplanting Christian ideals onto those traditions, in an attempt to woo pagans to Christianity. And it actually resulted in the modern holiday we know and love. Christmas is a holiday EVERYONE can enjoy, if they choose to. So, Kirk...just let your "brother" sit in his car, and go drink your nonexistent hot cocoa!
I think most Christians are scratching their heads at this stinker. In fact, I'd go so far to say that if they're not, there's something wrong with them.
You want to see "Saving Christmas" done correctly? Look no further than "A Charlie Brown Christmas". Think about it: Sad-sack protagonist depressed over the hollow commercialism of Christmas, his friend reminds him that Christmas is meant to commemorate the birth of an extraordinary person who was destined to die for man's sins, protagonist is filled with inner peace at this revelation, his friends are inspired to create beauty through kindness and teamwork. All this from a barely 30 minute cartoon from the mid-1960s. Look upon it, Kirk Cameron, and realize how mediocre you really are.
Fun fact: Charles Schultz studied theology and included frequent, non-hateful Biblical references in the original "Peanuts" strip. I'm neither Christian nor a fan of most religious media, but the way he did it is actually kind of educational and charming (probably because it wasn't the focus - just another interest of his/way he saw the world).
@@KyleRayner12 , I didn't know that, but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. Charles Schultz's work consisted of insight and wit... two things Kirk Cameron will never, ever possess.
I described this movie to my catholic mom, and it went something like this: "Do you know who Kirk Cameron is?" "Yes." "Well, he made a movie where he's at a Christmas party and finds that someone is having a bad time. After asking what's wrong, the guy says that he doesn't see how anyone there is truly celebrating Jesus. The rest of the movie is them sitting in a car while Kirk explains why all the festivities do tie into Christ's birth." My mom said: "That sounds awful."
So according to Kirk, when we think of Christmas, we shouldn't think of giving and generosity, compassion and charity, or togetherness with family. Rather, we should think of beating the crap out of heretics, Herod's campaign of infanticide, and the bloody execution of Jesus. Well, all right.
It is amazing how "Christians" get so obsessed with violence. Take a look at Gibson's "Passion of the Christ", could have been a good movie - but just so stuffed with violence. Yes, Jesus suffered - but don't let that be the point. Heck, anyone who was crucified suffered - it was torture after all. The point was Jesus life/teachings, his sacrifice - but Gibson used it as an excuse to make a bloody violent/torture porn movie. It just astounds how people manage to pervert the word of God....beyond all recognition.
Kirk's comments on materialism seems to prove that he's a big fan of "prosperity gospel" which is one of the worst perversions of Christianity. The short version of "prosperity gospel" is that God wants rich people to be rich. That your wealth proves that you are chosen by God because you are a better human being than not-rich people. Which is kind of the EXACT OPPOSITE of what Jesus said when he threw all the money changers out of the temple.
Most modern day "Christians" ignore most of the biblical no nos. They like to ignore the commandments and scriptures that are inconvenient and don't fit their lifestyle, so they just re write the bible to fit. The vanity, greed, sloth, drunkeness and lust, seems to be what most of the Xtians struggle with or just ignore completely. They just re wrote the bible to say that Jesus and God were also drunken, vain, shallow and greedy assholes.
@@stephaniebaker1542 Too right. This movie started off with him listing material things he loves. The Bible explicitly forbids loving material things. I've yet to meet a fundamentalist Christian that was actually a Christian by any stretch of the imagination.
@@singaporesammy I personally, have only met one family, that are true believers in Christ, and they are very humble, and they live humble. Most of the professing so called Christians, that I have met or seen, are not humble, and do not live humble, they lie, and do all kinds of unbelievable things, and then still say they are Christian, and they give true Christians like the humble family that I know a bad name.
Yes, Kirk worships Supply-Side Jesus. Supply-Side Jesus wears golden robes, which provides work for robe-makers! And he doesn't cure lepers, because then they'd have no incentive to avoid leprosy! Supply-Side Jesus makes the world a better place...for Supply-Side Jesus, anyway!
I know this comment is 4 years old, but if anyone is curious just how disgusting this prosperity gospel can be, you should definitely check out John Olivers show on "Televangelists". He really shows just how vile some of these people geniunely can be...
“I have all the characteristics of a human being: blood, flesh, skin, hair; but not a single identifiable emotion, except for greed and disgust.” -Kirk Cameron probably
I think I'll stick with my usual Christmas traditions of going to Mass with my grandparents, opening presents with my family, and watching a Muppet's Christmas Carol. Sorry Kirk Cameron. You just can't hold a candle to Charles Dickens in terms of getting into the Christmas spirit.
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Which is bizarre, since he's referencing the Nicene council as a good thing, but when those same kind of early church fathers appropriated Pagan beliefs, even their holiday, he needs to lie about it. He only likes those old leaders when they do things he approves of.
Bill Jacobs That's how it is with all leaders. People like you more as a leader if you do something that the majority believe is right. And if you do the opposite, or try to change their minds, they will hate you. But the way that Kirk here sees it is very backwards. You can't just ignore or lie about something or that vital about people you claim to follow the beliefs of.
Most people who think like him do. But thats most likely because they're using their faith to push an political agenda like most republicans do. after all super religious people tend to be very Naive and gullible. Look at the 2016 election!
"but when those same kind of early church fathers appropriated Pagan beliefs" Care to name them, or are you just making generalized, sweeping statements without any actual proof? "even their holiday" That's wrong actually. There is no other Holiday within the European pagan belief system that puts significance on the day December 25th, people merely use the celebrations during the entire season of Winter as an excuse (and wrongly) for Christmas "appropriating" paganism. As for the whole "Christmas tree" debacle, it has no actual significance to the Christian doctrine, and serves merely as a cultural celebratory ritual re-purposed from earlier beliefs. "But thats most likely because they're using their faith to push an political agenda like most republicans do. after all super religious people tend to be very Naive and gullible. Look at the 2016 election!" Oh, let me guess, you're one of those "I'M WITH HER!" suckers, right? Yea, let's ignore the millions of dollars Hillary received in aid from Saudi Arabians, and her lying under oath and acid-washing her email servers. No wonder an idiot like you would be opposed to Christianity.
bud389 shut the f****** both Hillary and Trump were pieces of s*** both their campaigns were garbage and both their policies were dangerous we all know that everyone knows the 2016 election was a sham even you
Who the FUCK arranges it as "you better watch out/you better not pout??" The nerve of Kirk to arrange it in an AABB pattern instead of an ABAB pattern is revolting.
Geez, next Kirk Cameron is going to explain how Santa bringing Frosty the Snowman back to life after he melted is like when Jesus rose from the dead. "So the next time you watch Frosty the Snowman, look at the greenhouse Frosty melted in as the empty tomb. Much like how Frosty is no longer a puddle of water in the greenhouse, Jesus is no longer dead and buried in the tomb. He's alive." If it turns out that that was a deleted scene, I wouldn't be surprised.
"Well what about Mrs Claus? I don't see anything in the bible about Mrs Clause?" "Well you see, the pairing of a man and a woman originates from the pairing of Adam and Eve from genesis. Santa is Adam, and Mrs Claus is Eve."
+Nick Longoria I'm... not sure whether I'd prefer to hear that. On the one hand, about half of this film's run time is useless padding with gibberish and singing, so maybe I'd prefer further stretching of Christmas traditions, like how Rudolph was ridiculed and isolated for his Christian beliefs but became a light to the world, like Christians are called to be... On the other hand, the comparisons Cameron already made broke my sanity (which these comments are helping me repair. Thank you all.), so I'm not sure I want to know more...
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That whole bit with the "Alright, Everybody, let's feast!" ...Everything about that scene... The little jump for joy, the way he said it, the context and just the sheer glib, unintentional (???) smugness of it? ...I have never wanted to harm a human being more in my life.
“There’s something about Christmas that makes people want to be more kind.” Apparently Kirk has never been to a mall on Black Friday to see all that kindness on full display. Speaking of which; my new Christmas tradition is watching Christmas Karens on RUclips.
For fuck sake, what's up with the St. Nick story? The main reason he was called Santa Claus his Dutch name was Sinterklaas and over the years, it would evolve into Santa Claus. Also, he was known for secretly giving gifts, especially in one particular story in which he gave three big bags of gold to a poor man and the man's daughters under their tree.
I've watched this three full times and I'm convinced this review is a masterpiece. I met Kirk Cameron in real life and he's just as bat shit insane as he acts in this movie.
OMG Jesus Christ! When Cameron pulled out that shit about the 'truth' of christmas trees, I laughed so hard I nearly threw up. Seriously, I still feel queasy. That was inSANE! I'm wondering how many non-christians seeing this in the theater broke down in uncontrollable fits of laughter (and how the fundy audience members reacted). There is no way I would have been able to contain myself. Wow! I think I need to get a copy of this just for the comedy value.
Kirk Cameron is the height of the American Christian persecution complex. He literally thinks that anyone who doesn't think the same way he does is out to take something away from him.
These people are all projection. They think everybody's out to get them because they're out to get everybody else. Meanwhile, we just wish they'd eff off.
12:24 Don't you just love the irony of Kirk Cameron, an admitted creationist, lecturing someone else of drinking the kool-aid? That's like Dick Cheney accusing someone else of being a war monger.
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 "drinking the Kool-aid" is an idiom for blindly following a leader. It originates from the Jonestown mass suicide where Rev. Jim Jones convinced 900+ people to drink poisoned Kool-aid.
So Santa Claus, the icon of childhood innocence, is protrayed as a brutish Barbarian that beats the shit out of people who don't agree with him? Classy Mr. Cameron
Which is hilarious, because Santa Claus is based on Saint Nicolas. But of course Kirk Cameron can't talk about that. He's busy to spread propagan- I mean, Christian spirit in the family movies.
Is this movie trolling? I feel like most of the people who made it don't believe a word of this shit. And I love that the "bad guy" is called Christian, and he wants them to give to charity, and Kirk is like, naw man. That's not what Christmas is about!
+Beerwoman! Nope... Kirk is a well-known Christian actor/director/producer/whateverhemakesshittymovies. Maybe some of the cast isn't taking it seriously, but Kirk is clearly a fanatic about this. It's kinda scary.
I don't understand why Kirk didn't bring up that the Puritans who settled here used to oppress anyone celebrating Christmas. Beatings, hangings, etc. Oh right, sorry, he's rewriting reality.
“What, are they going to tell us hot chocolate is bad for you? That the druids invented it?” Actually sugar is bad for you and chocolate is a Native American food, so, kinda Kirk.
Kirk Cameron comes off like someone who doesn't think he's wrong on anything and doesn't realize how smug and ridiculous he comes off in the process. You just want to tell him 'Get a grip, pal!' or 'Get over yourself!'. And the conspiracy theories that one guy spouted off was hilarious for all the wrong reasons. Trainwreck city!
Remember when Christmas films could convey the message it wanted without hammering the bible down our throats? I mean, come on, Its A Wonderful Life had capitol G O D in it and it wasn't this preachy abomination.
+noobmaster117 Because that was a movie about a man's life and how much you really mean to people in your life, even in the smallest ways. This is just.................
It really baffles me just how deluded and arrogant Cameron and his ilk are. That's what bugs me even more than their bigoted views, they are just so _stuck up_ about their hatred towards others!
This is honestly kind of depressing to watch. Kirk Cameron takes someone who just wanted to help out people and radicalize them to fight for this horrible interpretation of Christianity that goes out of it's way to hurt others because of lies that there's a war on christmas.
I'm a Christian, and this review did not offend me at all. In fact, it was pretty funny! This movie is awful anyway, and most of the "facts" are bizarre. I celebrate Christmas, but I know that Jesus (Yeshua) was not really born on Dec. 25th. We don't know exactly when he was born, but probably sometime in the spring. Also, like 90% of all Christmas decorations are pagan-inspired. Trying to justify this whole thing in a movie is actually pretty scary. Christian White's character at the beginning was right! Why are we spending so much money on decorations when we could feed another family?? Oh, and I believe that Herod did massacre the children, but Brad is right, that it isn't in other historical texts that we've found yet (at least, I haven't heard of it). That doesn't mean it didn't happen. The only real reference we have of Socrates' teachings is from the writings of Plato, but that doesn't mean Socrates didn't exist. Anyway, lighten up, everyone! It's just a movie, and it's just a review. And a funny one at that.
What does Herod killing babies have to do with the subject of the film though? What does the swaddling cloth have to do with anything? This movies dialogue is just gibberish. Kirk completely failed to answer Christian's questions, he barely even tried to.
This entire movie feels like this is coming the %1 view on Christmas. It's easy to justify materialism when your entire upbringing has been sunshine and butterflies. Meanwhile, my mother was lucky if she could afford firewood for our woodstove and be able to provide for two children during the holiday season. Does living in poverty make someone a bad Christian, Kirk?
December 23, 2023. Continuing my Christmas break tradition of going through the Cinema Snob Christmas episodes. It doesn't matter how many times I have seen this, it still holds up every year.
Wait, so based on Kirk's explanation for Christmas trees, why don't Christians just have them up all year round? Oh, that's right, because his explanation was bullshit.
Lol Wow then you haven’t seen very many movies… This isn’t even the most heavy-handed Christian movie that the cinema snob has ever reviewed even at the time it was posted…
Haha! This whole thing is great. But thank you, in particular, for the gut-punch humor on "...and I love hot chocolate!" "WELL, THEN YOU SHOULD POUR SOME IN THAT OBVIOUSLY EMPTY CUP!!"
Feels like I'm watching a Christmas version of The Cube. No one escapes and everyone dies, but not before they lose their damn minds. I feel sorry for Kirk Cameron's family. He's certifiable!
Nah this movie was only made to increase Kirk Cameron's obnoxious ego. Now I'm wondering if he blackmailed Phil Robertson and Dr. Ben Carson to do positive reviews, which to me it actually happened.
luv4hutch Indeed. My least favourite part of it is their rendition of I Am The very Model of a Modern Major-General, which is my favourite song in the score.
+Z Film Reviews Order it from Christian Cinema, totally worth it. I already watch it 6 times and last time, I laughed even more because this movie + whisky is the perfect combination.
+ArthasTheCoward Did you take a shot everytime Kirk mentioned cocoa? I have heard, that watching this movie under the influence of your favorite substance, helps quite a bit.
+ArthasTheCoward you should hav found a way to steal it. buying it ecurages them to make more of them and eventualy somones gonna start to belive the bullshit
The Abortion I payed 25$ for the DVD plus the shipping. I totally support this guy to make more sh!t like that. Because they are the funniest-stupidest shit in Cinema. But seriously, if they are people who believe is bullshit, they need a real education.
I've actively avoided any Kirk Cameron interviews, appearances, and movies since he started being a nutcase, so I didn't realize it was THIS bad. I had a huge crush on him when I used to watch Growing Pains growing up, and this is really creeping me out. Every shot shown, his expression makes him look like a total psychopath. :O
You should see him in the Left Behind films; he only has one facial expression, namely looking like he's unexpectedly shat himself and is hoping no one's noticed.
Jews were doing it first. The Story of Noah is pretty much a carbon copy of a story from the Epic of Gilgamesh... in reality pretty much every religion does it.
Man I am a Christian and I despise the Christian movies, especially God's Not Dead. It is such a poor (albeit sadly accurate) portrayal of an American Christian worldview. It panders to the lowest common denominator, has terrible theology and best of all the "cases of discrimination" stated in the film credits were either false or taken out of context to give money to the Alliance Defending Freedom. Kirk Cameron tho? Let's just say he's the butt end of a few jokes my friends and I made in bible college.
TheLegendaryJF If you want to watch some good Christian movies, go check out Ben-Hur (1925), Ben-Hur (1950s), Life of Brian, Intolerance, and The Ten Commandments.
I’ve noticed Christian movies tend to make everyone look like complete and utter asshole morons. I understand why they do that to people like me, atheists, but why do they do it to Christians too? I mean they seriously make you guys look either completely mentally challenged or just like complete and utter assholes. I don’t understand that.
harrietamidala1691 it means he's trying to be aziz ansari and play this off as just wacky overacting. let's be real, it's probably the only way he was able to say those lines and not either die laughing or punch someone.
A long time ago, probably the 1990’s, I recall reading an interview with a young actress. She was asked what is the worst advice anyone gave her regarding acting. Her response was “to watch Kirk Cameron”. 😂🤣
The sad thing is, the brother-in-law in the movie (and director) has a fairly good career at directing music videos for fairly big bands. For example: All That Remains - Air That I Breathe As I Lay Dying - Darkest Nights Atreyu - Ain't Love Grand Chiodos - The Undertaker's Thirst For Revenge Is Unquenchable 3 Blink 182 videos Demon Hunter - One Thousand Apologies (In my opinion one of their best songs) Deftones - Hexagram Project 86 - My Will Be A Dead Man 5 Shinedown videos including State of my Head and Cut the Chord Stick to music videos, dude. Or stay away from Kirk Cameron.
Unfortunately, his tweet saying "The only oath of loyalty liberals want you to take is full commitment to the LGBTQYSTD lifestyle. And they have no problem forcing it." was sincere in ever word. So no, I have a feeling he and Kirk will still very much stay in touch.
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I actually gave out copies of this movie as gag gifts a few years ago. Me and my friend have a Christmas tradition of giving each other bad movies for Christmas, many of them have been featured on this show. I gave Saving Christmas, he gave me Samurai Cop 2.
Kirk Cameron should have made a movie about the barbarian Saint Nicholas seen here instead of whatever this was supposed to be about. Seriously, why does he look like a Skyrim Jarl?
And tackler of heretics. No joke Saint Nicholas tackled a Heretical Bishop for teaching that Jesus was only Mortal and not Divine. Granted I would probably be upset if I grew up in a time when people I knew were murdered for saying Jesus was God and then a member of my own Religion started saying he wasn't.
I can't believe something like this movie could get greenlighted by anyone's who's not Kirk Cameron. I just want for Kirk Cameron to know that not all Christians will support this piece of crap movie that confuses its values halfway and then tries to push it down everyone's throat.
Damn...this movie contradicts all Christmas movie troupes by being insanely materialistic AND tells insanely gross lies about Christmas and it's traditions in the name of religion that anyone who does actual research on the internet can learn isn't true in 5 minutes?!? ...Wow. Top Kek, Kirk Cameron. Top Kek.
Why does Kirk Cameron deliver every line like he's narrating a documentary for children? I can totally hear him saying, "The three-toed sloth actually moves so slowly that algae grows inside its fur! I'll bet you've never owned a Chia Pet like this before!"
So the point of this movie is not to abandon materialism and use your disposable income to help starving children or clean safe wells for potable water but to spend money to create a gift box jerusalem skyline and feel good about buying useless crap for your nuclear family. I really think this is the opposite of the spirit of the new testament,I'm not an expert but... (And the black characters in this movie are just insulting, like setting black folks back 20years smh)
The worst - well, one of the worst things about that is that at least 2 of Kirk's adopted children (IRL) are Black. He has *absolutely no* excuse for not seeing that the Black characters are massive racist caricatures. Not that any white person would have much of an excuse anyway, of course.
@@helensearle1896 To be fair, Kirk Cameron did not write or direct this film, so the blame for that goes on the shoulders of Darren Doane (the guy playing Christian White).
@@luckystriker842 That just makes Darren Doane awful too. Kirk's the star (in the loosest possible sense of that term) and the producer, he's got his name in the title; he had enough clout to look at the script and say 'honey, this is shit double shit with a cherry on top, at least please lose the racist caricatures.' And he didn't.
I love how of all the deeds of St. Nicholas, these dorks chooses the completely mythical act of violence against someone who just disagreed with him. I would love to find out what kinds of drugs Done and Cameron were on when they made this
It's ironic that Cameron's film is just there to push his religious agenda; because this movie is being played in hell 24/7, 365. Did Cameron really say his divorce was the equivalent of Jesus' death? Cool blasphemy, bro.
I'd rather watch "Manos" the Hands of Fate, unriffed, than see all of this. And that movie ends with an eight-year-old becoming a child bride to a cult leader!
I feel it’s a new Christmas tradition for me to come back and watch this review. It’s just baffling how ANYONE who was part of the production didn’t take one second to look at it and go “hey…doesn’t this all seem a bit wrong?” From Kirk telling us to imagine all the babies being slaughtered during the nativity, remembering the swaddling cloth is actually Jesus’ death cloth, to saying that all Christmas trees are actually just crosses, to the very image of St Nick beating the shit out of someone for not believing in Jesus enough and Christian going “wow, Santa was the man,” it feels like every single choice made in this film jumped through so many hoops and misunderstood so much of Christmas. Hell, that comment about the presents actually being the new Jerusalem lives rent free in my head with just how out of left field and idiotic it is. It’s a stack of fucking presents, simple and plain, there’s no hidden biblical meaning it no matter what angle you look at them. And the audacity of Kirk to say with a straight face that giving into excess on Christmas is okay since you’re celebrating God becoming material has got to be the most unchristian (or at least EXTREMELY hypocritical) thing I’ve ever heard come from a religious person’s mouth, especially since in the beginning, Christian was depressed that they were giving into excess and was wondering how many people they could’ve helped. But no, Kirk says we’re worshiping God today, so it’s okay we’re gorging on gigantic feasts with the finest dining. And the worst part about it is that people actually eat this shit up and believe it. Look at the RT audience ratings of people saying this is 5 stars. All of them are saying how it’s the perfect film for the family and really made them happy with how it recontextualized Christmas for them by bringing it back to the truths, even though 99% of it was just stuff Kirk pulled out of his ass. They don’t question anything, they don’t disagree, they just see God being talked about and clap even though a good chunk of Christians even think this is hot garbage that gives the wrong message.
+Cade Thumann I didn't mind them not taking the movie very seriously. I was just a little annoyed that they made up subtitles instead of using the actual ones (although I did find it funny).
Not only that, Lucifer is actually an angel whose only crime was that he loved god too much. His name even means light bringer, so clearly he's the one to be worshipping.
21:46-"Perhaps you can even light the crosses on fire to let the whole town know that your love for Christ burns brighter than any human flame." That line cracks me up every time.😂😂😝
I'm a Christian and this movie...that was terrible. So bad. I'm embarrassed for everyone involved in that. Anyways, if you're taking suggestions, I would love to see you review BBC's 2005 version of the Snow Queen.
So the movie is about a Christian wanting to live a more selfless, charitable life, and Kirk Cameron saves him from going down this path by embracing materialism and idolatry?
Good one-sentence summary.
So, an "Ultra-Christian" convinces a man to act less Christian?
_Then what is even the point of this movie?!_ Don’t even the craziest fundamentalists believe that materialism is bad for such a holiday?!
"Prosperity gospel" AKA evangelical christanity
I thought the same thing! That's very odd, isn't it?
I love that Kirk Cameron just ignores Christians's question on why they don't just help needy people instead of buying expensive shit for themselves.
Lunar Imperium Shows how much of a real Christian Cameron is.
Isn't hypocrisy funny?
Lunar Imperium I don't have a problem with Christians buying expensive shit, but if they are hypocritical about it then yes, I call them out!
He goes off about all that expensive linens n big ham at the end first of all not evryone has even close to the the spread or house Kirk Cameron does it's like he's n sum fake reality n 2nd of all I know a lot of people will disagree on this site or not see it this way but I just luvvvvv how hardcore Christian's of this douchebaggery type like Kirk are never vegan or even vegetarian to me that says u think about shit goin on in the world too n don't just fuckn preach at people
I did think of writing to Kirk to ask, since I have a friend who doesn't eat dairy products, what is the richest vegan margarine; but in the end couldn't be ersed.
I think a good example of someone who could impart the message of Jesus without bible thumping is one of the most sincerely and deeply religious men of the past few decades here in the states, Mr. Rogers. Initially training and planning to become a minister, he decided that kids needed a reaffirming, loving voice on television and went on to create his famous show... Despite clearly being both understanding of his faith and devout in a way I doubt Kirk Cameron can even approach, he never once quoted directly from scripture or focused his episodes on God.
Instead, he lived out the message he felt Jesus was trying to convey by teaching children how to be nice to one another, or bringing on physically and mentally challenged children and treating them with the sincere respect they deserved (and even keeping in touch when them throughout their lives thereafter) as opposed to the showpieces they often wind up being on more half-assed shows and films who wish to feign respect for fellow man.
He also overcome racial hostilities and tension not via language that would go over a child's head but through simple and symbolic action, such as by inviting the black mailman to put his feet in the same pool as him, a technique clearly inspired by those used by Jesus and others in the bible which is full of foot washing symbolism, though again he DEMONSTRATED instead of LECTURED.
Finally, rather than trying to force you into his idea of the perfect child or calling the behavior of others sinful, he'd often close with what I believe is just about the most beautiful line ever spoken on television: "There's no person in the whole world like you; and I like you just the way you are." There were no prerequisites or conditions attached, he simply loved you as a fellow human being just as Jesus, a man who would sit and dine with the sick, sinners, prostitutes, tax collectors, and anyone who would have him, said we ought to.
He meant a lot to me, and I feel I learned more of the message that Jesus attempted to impart on the world from him despite never mentioning him or the bible than I have from the combined efforts of every hostile bible thumping evangelist I've since come across. Mr Rogers lived and breathed the best aspects of Christmas every day of his life, and it saddens me that the Mr Rogers of the world have given way to the Kirk Camerons and Pat Robertsons.
Amen. I think Kirk Cameron and his ilk have completely missed the train about what being a Christian actually is about
Not gonna lie: I used to think Mr Rogers was a dork. After I read about all he did and the lives and souls he touched, I have a new-found respect and admiration for him.
Rest In Power, Fred Rogers. No wonder you won the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny.
Agreed. I think that Fred Rogers was probably one of the purest and most sincere men to ever grace this earth with his presence. Yes, he came off as dorky or uncool to some of us 80s kids, but I remember watching a few of his shows after I had matured, and became an adult, and thought to myself, that this man really gets it, and is a near perfect example of what Christianity should be, and how it should be presented. I still remember a show of his, where he was talking about when tragedies happen, to not focus so much on the negative, but look for the helpers.
Mr. Rogers was the living embodiment of what St. Francis of Assisi said, "preach the gospel at all times. Use words if necessary."
why can't the world have more Mr Rogers rather than Kirk Camerons
I have a theory that in this movie's universe, Kirk Cameron might actually be Satan in human form. Throughout the movie, he tells Christian White to basically endorse terrible things such as being greedy (telling him that he is wrong for worrying about the less fortunate and that extreme materialism is good), violence (Santa beating a "heretic" to an inch of his life being "cool") and lies. You can even argue that he is playing with Christian's weak mind to get him to embrace the madness (whenever he makes a point, he stares at Christian until the latter responds in approval as if he is looking forward to Christian's acceptance). He also acts smug, never seeming to be daunted by any problems as if he was overly confident. You can even interpret his winking at the end indicating that he is the Devil in disguise (and is happy that he succeeded in playing into a man's mind to have him endorse selfishness). So yeah, Kirk Cameron in this movie might actually be the Devil.
That or he is just a selfish moron. Still, it is fun to come up with crazy theories.
Cade Thumann that’s actually believable 😅
That makes this movie way more watchable
That explains why the Dubstep part is there.
Besth film theory
I thought Kirk Cameron was just the Devil in real life.
Am I the only one who thinks talking vegetables can do a better job at promoting Christianity than Kirk Cameron?
Honestly, anything is better than Kirk Cameron at promoting Christianity.
Veggie Tales was the shit as a kid, at least the people who made it actually *tried* and it wasn't just some cash grab.
Talking vegetables were the only way I understood the bible as a kid. I'm an outed atheist now, but I still think "Veggie Tales" is a good family show-clean, funny, and creative.
VeggieTales is pretty stupid when I look back on it, but it's definitely a good way to teach little kids about the Bible.
At least Veggietales just gave good morals and likened them to the Bible, while singing ultra-catchy songs (Seriously, that goddamn Hairbrush song)
This is just.....WTF?
Probably the most *vile* aspect of this movie is that it's pretty obvious that Kirk Cameron's family is rich, yet he has the goddamn nerve to say that Christmas is about materialism and gluttony.
I wonder what would happen if you tell him:
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. - Matthew 6:24
and
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
- Mark 10:25
Right??? He's all up n that annoying generic lookin party house/stage set with sum dumbass family highjink of the bro n law runnin off like it's a major crisis ya ok 🙄...n the end goin into sum elaborate dining set up n saying imagine the presents are fuckn what? Jersuselum. All I'm thinkn is whaaa why aren't u like showing us sum real shit of ANY kind this sucks ass from beginning to end. No reality cuz that IS that weirdos reality.
I almost wonder if this movie was Kirk Cameron's way of reconciling his religion with his wealth and privilege, but not in a way that meant giving either one up. His conscience was probably eating at him, but rather than do what Jesus would *actually* want him to do during the holidays, like give to the needy and think of others, he thought, "Nope, I like expensive gifts and gorging on party food too much. I'll just make up a bunch of bullsh*t to post hoc justify my greed and assuage my guilt *that* way. Brilliant!"
@@Spectra651 that's ABSOLUTELY what he did with this film
@@Spectra651 That's basically the reasoning of the followers of the Prosperity Gospel philosophy.
Speaking as a Christian, even I find myself scratching my head at this stinker! WTF!? Kirk Cameron you DO know most Christmas traditions have pagan origins, and that the Catholic Church was responsible for transplanting Christian ideals onto those traditions, in an attempt to woo pagans to Christianity. And it actually resulted in the modern holiday we know and love. Christmas is a holiday EVERYONE can enjoy, if they choose to. So, Kirk...just let your "brother" sit in his car, and go drink your nonexistent hot cocoa!
Jon Porter your own o the master propel on the Internet.
Also...look up amanita muscaria and Christmas.
Well said Jon Porter.
I totally agree. I’m a Christian and I can’t stand this movie. My family and I were laughing at how bad it was.
I think most Christians are scratching their heads at this stinker. In fact, I'd go so far to say that if they're not, there's something wrong with them.
Kirk Cameron's face is creepy. He always looks like he's about to tie you to a chair and teach you about swaddling cloths.
I'm a devout Christian and I can't STAND Kirk Cameron. He makes all Christians look awful. Both of these comments are perfect.
What if he's doing that to some unfortunate soul, except with table cloths?
Or kidnap your and try to convince you that you've died.
@@snowinglight8651 i think it's just human to make fun of kirk cameron
Well, one of his movies does have him kidnapping children, so...
You want to see "Saving Christmas" done correctly? Look no further than "A Charlie Brown Christmas". Think about it: Sad-sack protagonist depressed over the hollow commercialism of Christmas, his friend reminds him that Christmas is meant to commemorate the birth of an extraordinary person who was destined to die for man's sins, protagonist is filled with inner peace at this revelation, his friends are inspired to create beauty through kindness and teamwork. All this from a barely 30 minute cartoon from the mid-1960s. Look upon it, Kirk Cameron, and realize how mediocre you really are.
Fun fact: Charles Schultz studied theology and included frequent, non-hateful Biblical references in the original "Peanuts" strip. I'm neither Christian nor a fan of most religious media, but the way he did it is actually kind of educational and charming (probably because it wasn't the focus - just another interest of his/way he saw the world).
@@KyleRayner12 , I didn't know that, but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. Charles Schultz's work consisted of insight and wit... two things Kirk Cameron will never, ever possess.
@@KyleRayner12 Right. I'm no follower of Christ. But I've tired of capitalism's grip on Christmas.
Yeah of course he just ripped off a superior movie 😂
@@godzillavkk you need to
I described this movie to my catholic mom, and it went something like this:
"Do you know who Kirk Cameron is?"
"Yes."
"Well, he made a movie where he's at a Christmas party and finds that someone is having a bad time. After asking what's wrong, the guy says that he doesn't see how anyone there is truly celebrating Jesus. The rest of the movie is them sitting in a car while Kirk explains why all the festivities do tie into Christ's birth."
My mom said: "That sounds awful."
Your mom seems a keen and cultured woman.
So according to Kirk, when we think of Christmas, we shouldn't think of giving and generosity, compassion and charity, or togetherness with family. Rather, we should think of beating the crap out of heretics, Herod's campaign of infanticide, and the bloody execution of Jesus.
Well, all right.
Don't forget to embrace materialism and idolatry!
It is amazing how "Christians" get so obsessed with violence. Take a look at Gibson's "Passion of the Christ", could have been a good movie - but just so stuffed with violence. Yes, Jesus suffered - but don't let that be the point. Heck, anyone who was crucified suffered - it was torture after all. The point was Jesus life/teachings, his sacrifice - but Gibson used it as an excuse to make a bloody violent/torture porn movie. It just astounds how people manage to pervert the word of God....beyond all recognition.
Well, there are people who think it's torture porn.
And Saving Christmas has Santa Claus beat people up for not believing enough. ;n;
And don't forget in the Gibson film, they gave jesus quite a great deal more lashes than the traditionally accepted 39...over a hundred?
Son, I know. That doesn't change that the movie still has Santa beat heretics up in the name of the Lord as a good thing, fam. @Ash Kitt
Kirk's comments on materialism seems to prove that he's a big fan of "prosperity gospel" which is one of the worst perversions of Christianity.
The short version of "prosperity gospel" is that God wants rich people to be rich. That your wealth proves that you are chosen by God because you are a better human being than not-rich people. Which is kind of the EXACT OPPOSITE of what Jesus said when he threw all the money changers out of the temple.
Most modern day "Christians" ignore most of the biblical no nos. They like to ignore the commandments and scriptures that are inconvenient and don't fit their lifestyle, so they just re write the bible to fit. The vanity, greed, sloth, drunkeness and lust, seems to be what most of the Xtians struggle with or just ignore completely. They just re wrote the bible to say that Jesus and God were also drunken, vain, shallow and greedy assholes.
@@stephaniebaker1542 Too right. This movie started off with him listing material things he loves. The Bible explicitly forbids loving material things. I've yet to meet a fundamentalist Christian that was actually a Christian by any stretch of the imagination.
@@singaporesammy I personally, have only met one family, that are true believers in Christ, and they are very humble, and they live humble. Most of the professing so called Christians, that I have met or seen, are not humble, and do not live humble, they lie, and do all kinds of unbelievable things, and then still say they are Christian, and they give true Christians like the humble family that I know a bad name.
Yes, Kirk worships Supply-Side Jesus. Supply-Side Jesus wears golden robes, which provides work for robe-makers! And he doesn't cure lepers, because then they'd have no incentive to avoid leprosy! Supply-Side Jesus makes the world a better place...for Supply-Side Jesus, anyway!
I know this comment is 4 years old, but if anyone is curious just how disgusting this prosperity gospel can be, you should definitely check out John Olivers show on "Televangelists". He really shows just how vile some of these people geniunely can be...
“I have all the characteristics of a human being: blood, flesh, skin, hair; but not a single identifiable emotion, except for greed and disgust.”
-Kirk Cameron probably
You forgot smugness.
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 You are correct. The smugness is by far the most identifiable emotion coming from KC.
I think I'll stick with my usual Christmas traditions of going to Mass with my grandparents, opening presents with my family, and watching a Muppet's Christmas Carol. Sorry Kirk Cameron. You just can't hold a candle to Charles Dickens in terms of getting into the Christmas spirit.
Or do like many families do across America and go through the motions, pretend everything is grand to get through the holidays.
"I saw it on Fox News, so I know it's true."
You're kidding me, right?
@@thing1thing2themediamaniac43 Whats wrong with snopes? And I haven't met a liberal in my life who auto trusts any tv news lol.
@Ash Kitt then you probably shouldn't be here considering Brad IS a liberal??
@@thing1thing2themediamaniac43 Clearly the most interesting Political discourse of our time, was the SNOPESGATE
If it was anyone else saying it, I'd say it was said ironically.
did some comments get reported?
'Cause I don't see who some y'all are replying to.
I'm not even going to lie, I've probably watched this review at least 12 times... and every time I get the insatiable craving for hot chocolate.
I brought the DVD of this insanity and trsut me, Ive got a new traditional christmas movie along Nightmare Before Chrismas and Nostalgia Critic WORST CHRISMAS SPECIAL episode.
Arthas_117 And now that Thanksgiving is almost over, I can't wait to break out this fustercluck of a movie for a bad movie rewatch with friends.
I think I might have to give this movie a shot.
videoqueen111 Well, maybe you should pour some in that *OBVIOUSLY EMPTY CUP.*
videoqueen111 me too.
Cameron is really in denial about the Pagan traditions that became Christmas traditions, such as the Christmas tree.
Which is bizarre, since he's referencing the Nicene council as a good thing, but when those same kind of early church fathers appropriated Pagan beliefs, even their holiday, he needs to lie about it. He only likes those old leaders when they do things he approves of.
Bill Jacobs That's how it is with all leaders. People like you more as a leader if you do something that the majority believe is right. And if you do the opposite, or try to change their minds, they will hate you. But the way that Kirk here sees it is very backwards. You can't just ignore or lie about something or that vital about people you claim to follow the beliefs of.
Most people who think like him do. But thats most likely because they're using their faith to push an political agenda like most republicans do. after all super religious people tend to be very Naive and gullible. Look at the 2016 election!
"but when those same kind of early church fathers appropriated Pagan beliefs"
Care to name them, or are you just making generalized, sweeping statements without any actual proof?
"even their holiday"
That's wrong actually. There is no other Holiday within the European pagan belief system that puts significance on the day December 25th, people merely use the celebrations during the entire season of Winter as an excuse (and wrongly) for Christmas "appropriating" paganism. As for the whole "Christmas tree" debacle, it has no actual significance to the Christian doctrine, and serves merely as a cultural celebratory ritual re-purposed from earlier beliefs.
"But thats most likely because they're using their faith to push an political agenda like most republicans do. after all super religious people tend to be very Naive and gullible. Look at the 2016 election!"
Oh, let me guess, you're one of those "I'M WITH HER!" suckers, right? Yea, let's ignore the millions of dollars Hillary received in aid from Saudi Arabians, and her lying under oath and acid-washing her email servers. No wonder an idiot like you would be opposed to Christianity.
bud389 shut the f****** both Hillary and Trump were pieces of s*** both their campaigns were garbage and both their policies were dangerous we all know that everyone knows the 2016 election was a sham even you
You know this movie actually makes some good points. It makes it even better when the movie can't answer them.
"Something about the season that makes people want to be nice..."
Says a guy who never worked retail.
Or fast food....hell pit!
Who the FUCK arranges it as "you better watch out/you better not pout??" The nerve of Kirk to arrange it in an AABB pattern instead of an ABAB pattern is revolting.
English nerds everywhere just got super turned on with that comment.
Geez, next Kirk Cameron is going to explain how Santa bringing Frosty the Snowman back to life after he melted is like when Jesus rose from the dead. "So the next time you watch Frosty the Snowman, look at the greenhouse Frosty melted in as the empty tomb. Much like how Frosty is no longer a puddle of water in the greenhouse, Jesus is no longer dead and buried in the tomb. He's alive." If it turns out that that was a deleted scene, I wouldn't be surprised.
"Well what about Mrs Claus? I don't see anything in the bible about Mrs Clause?"
"Well you see, the pairing of a man and a woman originates from the pairing of Adam and Eve from genesis. Santa is Adam, and Mrs Claus is Eve."
+Nick Longoria
I would like to see Kirk Cameron's take on the Russian christmas traditions. How far can he stretch his explanations I wonder
+Nick Longoria I'm... not sure whether I'd prefer to hear that.
On the one hand, about half of this film's run time is useless padding with gibberish and singing, so maybe I'd prefer further stretching of Christmas traditions, like how Rudolph was ridiculed and isolated for his Christian beliefs but became a light to the world, like Christians are called to be...
On the other hand, the comparisons Cameron already made broke my sanity (which these comments are helping me repair. Thank you all.), so I'm not sure I want to know more...
It's like "A Beautiful Mind" where Russell Crowe is looking through newspapers looking for hidden communist codes that aren't even there.
Imagine Christian White being counted in class. Teacher yells out:
"White, Christian?"
Nice :)
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That whole bit with the "Alright, Everybody, let's feast!" ...Everything about that scene... The little jump for joy, the way he said it, the context and just the sheer glib, unintentional (???) smugness of it? ...I have never wanted to harm a human being more in my life.
I hate his smug prick face.
“There’s something about Christmas that makes people want to be more kind.”
Apparently Kirk has never been to a mall on Black Friday to see all that kindness on full display. Speaking of which; my new Christmas tradition is watching Christmas Karens on RUclips.
The Christmas Johnsons are worse.
For fuck sake, what's up with the St. Nick story? The main reason he was called Santa Claus his Dutch name was Sinterklaas and over the years, it would evolve into Santa Claus. Also, he was known for secretly giving gifts, especially in one particular story in which he gave three big bags of gold to a poor man and the man's daughters under their tree.
P.Z. Arnott oh I remember that story it was in a Christmas book I used to read as a kid
But apparently according to this movie the very important thing is that he kicked people's asses.
Kirk saw the movie Silent Night, Deadly Night, and took it seriously.
It Sounds like it’s Sinner Claus.
@@dx1450 I mean, that is a pretty important thing. Kicking ass is always cool.
I've watched this three full times and I'm convinced this review is a masterpiece.
I met Kirk Cameron in real life and he's just as bat shit insane as he acts in this movie.
It's good that you maintain your sanity after meeting Kirk.
OMG Jesus Christ!
When Cameron pulled out that shit about the 'truth' of christmas trees, I laughed so hard I nearly threw up.
Seriously, I still feel queasy. That was inSANE!
I'm wondering how many non-christians seeing this in the theater broke down in uncontrollable fits of laughter (and how the fundy audience members reacted).
There is no way I would have been able to contain myself.
Wow! I think I need to get a copy of this just for the comedy value.
It gets better. In the special features of the DVD there's a scene called "Jesus vs Thor". I'm not joking.
+Julio C. Cruz let me guess Jesus won? -_-
+Etaukan I brought the DVD and I laughing my ass off this piece of shit.
+Etaukan Why would anyone who isn't Christian ever want to pay money to see this piece of shit?
+peter krug Shits and Giggles?
Kirk Cameron is the height of the American Christian persecution complex. He literally thinks that anyone who doesn't think the same way he does is out to take something away from him.
I think his offense is to act as a defender at all times
These people are all projection. They think everybody's out to get them because they're out to get everybody else. Meanwhile, we just wish they'd eff off.
12:24 Don't you just love the irony of Kirk Cameron, an admitted creationist, lecturing someone else of drinking the kool-aid? That's like Dick Cheney accusing someone else of being a war monger.
Those people lack self awareness thats why.
What's wrong with Kool-Aid?
Dick Cheney is a god damn saint... also, he's the president of black people.
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 "drinking the Kool-aid" is an idiom for blindly following a leader. It originates from the Jonestown mass suicide where Rev. Jim Jones convinced 900+ people to drink poisoned Kool-aid.
Yeah... And I was like, um, what Kool-aid? The Kool-aid that says we should help people less fortunate than we are?
So Santa Claus, the icon of childhood innocence, is protrayed as a brutish Barbarian that beats the shit out of people who don't agree with him? Classy Mr. Cameron
It should be noted St Nicholas was also the patron saint of sailors and sex workers.
Which is hilarious, because Santa Claus is based on Saint Nicolas. But of course Kirk Cameron can't talk about that. He's busy to spread propagan- I mean, Christian spirit in the family movies.
Says the troll king
@Sean Wilson
Battle time is feeding time!
@@tultsi93 what do you mean
Is this movie trolling? I feel like most of the people who made it don't believe a word of this shit. And I love that the "bad guy" is called Christian, and he wants them to give to charity, and Kirk is like, naw man. That's not what Christmas is about!
+Beerwoman! It MUST be.
+Beerwoman! Nope... Kirk is a well-known Christian actor/director/producer/whateverhemakesshittymovies. Maybe some of the cast isn't taking it seriously, but Kirk is clearly a fanatic about this. It's kinda scary.
+Jason De Los Santos or was he just one of those guys who says he "Hated god" its not the same thing.
+Jason De Los Santos Um, call me skeptical.
Kirk Cameron is a dumbass with no fucking brain.
Seriously, Brad deserves way more subscribers than he currently has...
11:47 After "You're all wrong," I instinctively said "F-ck you!" aloud. Totally not under my control. Damn this movie.
I don't understand why Kirk didn't bring up that the Puritans who settled here used to oppress anyone celebrating Christmas. Beatings, hangings, etc. Oh right, sorry, he's rewriting reality.
“What, are they going to tell us hot chocolate is bad for you? That the druids invented it?” Actually sugar is bad for you and chocolate is a Native American food, so, kinda Kirk.
Kirk Cameron comes off like someone who doesn't think he's wrong on anything and doesn't realize how smug and ridiculous he comes off in the process. You just want to tell him 'Get a grip, pal!' or 'Get over yourself!'. And the conspiracy theories that one guy spouted off was hilarious for all the wrong reasons. Trainwreck city!
He comes off like a maniac, in my op.
Remember when Christmas films could convey the message it wanted without hammering the bible down our throats?
I mean, come on, Its A Wonderful Life had capitol G O D in it and it wasn't this preachy abomination.
+noobmaster117 Because that was a movie about a man's life and how much you really mean to people in your life, even in the smallest ways.
This is just.................
+noobmaster117 Back when Christmas movies had a heart and artistic vision behind them? It'd be great for that to come back for sure.
It kinda did with "Arthur Christmas".
....but that was over four years ago so.....yeah.
+noobmaster117 I remember when explicitly Christian movies could do that.
+noobmaster117 This is why I stick to the more traditional Christmas movies: Die Hard 1&2, Lethal weapon, Gremlins and recently Iron Man 3
It really baffles me just how deluded and arrogant Cameron and his ilk are. That's what bugs me even more than their bigoted views, they are just so _stuck up_ about their hatred towards others!
Kirk has never worked around his own issues.
This is honestly kind of depressing to watch. Kirk Cameron takes someone who just wanted to help out people and radicalize them to fight for this horrible interpretation of Christianity that goes out of it's way to hurt others because of lies that there's a war on christmas.
Remember in Airplane when Ted told his story to a passenger and afterward, committed suicide. That's what Kirk was trying to do to Christian.
I love how brad is way more informed about history and religion than the movie
I'm a Christian, and this review did not offend me at all. In fact, it was pretty funny! This movie is awful anyway, and most of the "facts" are bizarre. I celebrate Christmas, but I know that Jesus (Yeshua) was not really born on Dec. 25th. We don't know exactly when he was born, but probably sometime in the spring. Also, like 90% of all Christmas decorations are pagan-inspired. Trying to justify this whole thing in a movie is actually pretty scary. Christian White's character at the beginning was right! Why are we spending so much money on decorations when we could feed another family??
Oh, and I believe that Herod did massacre the children, but Brad is right, that it isn't in other historical texts that we've found yet (at least, I haven't heard of it). That doesn't mean it didn't happen. The only real reference we have of Socrates' teachings is from the writings of Plato, but that doesn't mean Socrates didn't exist.
Anyway, lighten up, everyone! It's just a movie, and it's just a review. And a funny one at that.
+Dana Thurmond Totally agree
It always feels nice to find a Christian, feminist, etc. that I could potentially have a reasonable debate with
Aww I thought Jesus was a Capricorn? :(
What does Herod killing babies have to do with the subject of the film though? What does the swaddling cloth have to do with anything? This movies dialogue is just gibberish. Kirk completely failed to answer Christian's questions, he barely even tried to.
Well I thought the swaddling cloth was obvious, Sam... this movie is grade A holy SHIT.
Cool Kirk saves the Christmas
OOH! That Kirk is just a big, mean bully!!
*_E X Q U I S I T E_*
I’d rather watch Jim Kirk save Christmas.
Captain Kirk saving Christmas.
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 Didn't that actually happen in TOS at least once? :3
This entire movie feels like this is coming the %1 view on Christmas. It's easy to justify materialism when your entire upbringing has been sunshine and butterflies. Meanwhile, my mother was lucky if she could afford firewood for our woodstove and be able to provide for two children during the holiday season. Does living in poverty make someone a bad Christian, Kirk?
+Jenna Eve Sadly, prosperity gospel says yes.
+Jenna Eve If you don't get "the richest butter" and "the biggest ham" - then yes !
@@DanaTheInsane Good thing the prosperity gospel is bullshit
It's like christianity entagled with objectivism.
How are you doing now?
December 23, 2023. Continuing my Christmas break tradition of going through the Cinema Snob Christmas episodes. It doesn't matter how many times I have seen this, it still holds up every year.
Wait, so based on Kirk's explanation for Christmas trees, why don't Christians just have them up all year round? Oh, that's right, because his explanation was bullshit.
lmao. Weird to see you here.
#WheresKirksCocoa?
"I saw it on Fox News, so you know it's true."
The bad part is, he's not saying this sarcastically.
This has to be one of the most heavy handed movies I have ever seen.
Lol Wow then you haven’t seen very many movies… This isn’t even the most heavy-handed Christian movie that the cinema snob has ever reviewed even at the time it was posted…
"Christian White" .... I mean .... wow......LMAO
Obvious targeting is obvious!
As apposed to "Jewish Black"?
I know what I'm calling my next eggnog cocktail! :D
That was them being subtle. They could’ve just named him White Christian. Middle name? Male.
Haha! This whole thing is great. But thank you, in particular, for the gut-punch humor on "...and I love hot chocolate!" "WELL, THEN YOU SHOULD POUR SOME IN THAT OBVIOUSLY EMPTY CUP!!"
Gut punch humor? Really?
I believe the empty cup is done on every morning show ever.
Feels like I'm watching a Christmas version of The Cube. No one escapes and everyone dies, but not before they lose their damn minds.
I feel sorry for Kirk Cameron's family. He's certifiable!
Half of the comments are like: "The Snob so politcal, such christianity mockery yadayada..."
Deal with it, these movies SUCK because they SUCK
Not to mention, this movie does NOT convey Christian values. It twists them and outright makes stuff up to justify materialism.
Tudor Ciubotaru a lot of Christians are extremely insecure about their faith and can't handle anything that might make them question it.
Nah this movie was only made to increase Kirk Cameron's obnoxious ego. Now I'm wondering if he blackmailed Phil Robertson and Dr. Ben Carson to do positive reviews, which to me it actually happened.
Tiger Robocop I think Phil might have been right. Not about what I think on Christmas but what I think on Kurt Cameron.
I died during the Marty McFly ruining Christmas reference. XD
XD
That's not Jackson Galaxy.
Although, I did have to look it up. They look very similiar and I got a little upset. I love 'My Cat From Hell'.
+Mae Blackwood I know =) I was referencing the Midnight Screenings episode where Sarah talked about how the two look almost exactly alike.
Ah. My bad! I'm an idiot. Haha.
I don't watch those very often since I'm always way behind on new movies.
+Stoned Gremlin Productions Ever considering reviewing The Pirate Movie?
+Pete Hill Yes, that would be a perfect target for Brad to skewer. A perfect serving of "WTF, Hollywood?!"
luv4hutch Indeed. My least favourite part of it is their rendition of I Am The very Model of a Modern Major-General, which is my favourite song in the score.
discount Aziz Ansari is the best and worst part of this
Oh, that name means so many different things now in 2018.
Aziz is his own discount, tbf
Wow, the film looks bad, I mean its shot so fucking terribly its kind of amazing.
+Z Film Reviews Bet you miss those Growing Pains episodes right about now?
+Z Film Reviews Order it from Christian Cinema, totally worth it. I already watch it 6 times and last time, I laughed even more because this movie + whisky is the perfect combination.
+ArthasTheCoward Did you take a shot everytime Kirk mentioned cocoa? I have heard, that watching this movie under the influence of your favorite substance, helps quite a bit.
+ArthasTheCoward you should hav found a way to steal it. buying it ecurages them to make more of them and eventualy somones gonna start to belive the bullshit
The Abortion I payed 25$ for the DVD plus the shipping. I totally support this guy to make more sh!t like that. Because they are the funniest-stupidest shit in Cinema. But seriously, if they are people who believe is bullshit, they need a real education.
Now we need Brad Jones' Saving Christmas. Seriously, Team Snob could do an excellent parody of this movie.
I've actively avoided any Kirk Cameron interviews, appearances, and movies since he started being a nutcase, so I didn't realize it was THIS bad. I had a huge crush on him when I used to watch Growing Pains growing up, and this is really creeping me out. Every shot shown, his expression makes him look like a total psychopath. :O
You should see him in the Left Behind films; he only has one facial expression, namely looking like he's unexpectedly shat himself and is hoping no one's noticed.
"This is a highjack of our religion"
You guys started it.
To-motherfucking-che
Jews were doing it first. The Story of Noah is pretty much a carbon copy of a story from the Epic of Gilgamesh... in reality pretty much every religion does it.
Paranormal Encyclopedia and that story is a copy to lol.
@@dame3323 which story? Christ's? Lol sure if you are a conspiracy nut.
Christians STARTED it? Sure, and whites invented slavery.
It had such a badass theatrical poster and looked better than the actual movie.
Man I am a Christian and I despise the Christian movies, especially God's Not Dead. It is such a poor (albeit sadly accurate) portrayal of an American Christian worldview. It panders to the lowest common denominator, has terrible theology and best of all the "cases of discrimination" stated in the film credits were either false or taken out of context to give money to the Alliance Defending Freedom.
Kirk Cameron tho? Let's just say he's the butt end of a few jokes my friends and I made in bible college.
TheLegendaryJF If you want to watch some good Christian movies, go check out Ben-Hur (1925), Ben-Hur (1950s), Life of Brian, Intolerance, and The Ten Commandments.
Thank you for not being them.
May others be inspired by thine words.
A Christian that doesn’t like Christian movies?
Interesting
Do you like carrots?
Name that reference!
Hint: Brad reviewed this as well.
Basically, the Pure Flix company are the money changers in the temple trying to sell religious wares to people.
I’ve noticed Christian movies tend to make everyone look like complete and utter asshole morons. I understand why they do that to people like me, atheists, but why do they do it to Christians too? I mean they seriously make you guys look either completely mentally challenged or just like complete and utter assholes. I don’t understand that.
You know, the opening scene with the fireplace would be kinda atmospheric if it wasn't completely overlit with around 9000 Watts of studio lights.
who keeps giving Kirk Cameron work? keep giving him work and he'll keep making crazy shit like this!
The movie is basically Cameron's way of saying "look I have black friends"
''Look at my african american over here!''
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 They may say that, but their black friend is nothing but a prop.
What would make you think that he's racist?
That guy, aside from the house this was filmed in, was the only good part of the movie.
@@mrmonty86pretty much, yeah
Pretty gay for someone against gay marriage.
I swear that's always how homophobic people are.
Ironic, isn't it?
Larry Craig, Ted Haggard...
Lmao
MforMovesets The sad part is that movie is not even the most hateful of the bunch... I just watched clips from Voiceless and almost barfed!
Oh my god, is that the Winter's Tale poster in the background?! Thank you for acknowledging that movie! XD
***** I have. Multiple times.
"HORSE!" XD
+BloodfelX MY LIEGE
+BloodfelX Horse, horse go!
SKRAWWWW
"Oh, no. I killed her with my penis." xD
+J.K. Nicholson And the reference in "The Lonely Lady" review.
It was so funny.
Christian's problems with the holidays would make Charlie Brown say, "Good grief! Get a life!"
that black actor is aziz ansari-ing as hard as he can.
I wish I could thumbs up this comment more than once....
+Karen Burch What does that mean?
harrietamidala1691 it means he's trying to be aziz ansari and play this off as just wacky overacting. let's be real, it's probably the only way he was able to say those lines and not either die laughing or punch someone.
I thought it was closer to Wanda Sykes, but I honestly can’t disagree with you.
And thus, Kirk Cameron kicks off the war against critics.
A long time ago, probably the 1990’s, I recall reading an interview with a young actress. She was asked what is the worst advice anyone gave her regarding acting. Her response was “to watch Kirk Cameron”. 😂🤣
The sad thing is, the brother-in-law in the movie (and director) has a fairly good career at directing music videos for fairly big bands. For example:
All That Remains - Air That I Breathe
As I Lay Dying - Darkest Nights
Atreyu - Ain't Love Grand
Chiodos - The Undertaker's Thirst For Revenge Is Unquenchable
3 Blink 182 videos
Demon Hunter - One Thousand Apologies (In my opinion one of their best songs)
Deftones - Hexagram
Project 86 - My Will Be A Dead Man
5 Shinedown videos including State of my Head and Cut the Chord
Stick to music videos, dude. Or stay away from Kirk Cameron.
Unfortunately, his tweet saying "The only oath of loyalty liberals want you to take is full commitment to the LGBTQYSTD lifestyle. And they have no problem forcing it." was sincere in ever word. So no, I have a feeling he and Kirk will still very much stay in touch.
I love it when somebody in the comment section decides that it’s their responsibility to expand upon the information that we’ve already received in the video we watched…Extra douche bag points for acting like you’re the one who brought it up initially and are making the point for the first time…Very cool that you have access to that super-secret IMDb page…
Damn he did a Demon Hunter song? Wtf
First world problems: the movie.
Robson Pommer FTW!
I actually gave out copies of this movie as gag gifts a few years ago. Me and my friend have a Christmas tradition of giving each other bad movies for Christmas, many of them have been featured on this show. I gave Saving Christmas, he gave me Samurai Cop 2.
Kirk Cameron should have made a movie about the barbarian Saint Nicholas seen here instead of whatever this was supposed to be about. Seriously, why does he look like a Skyrim Jarl?
There's a little comic called Santa the Barbarian you might be mildly interested in...
ah saint Nicholas the patron saint of prostitutes.
Oh...That comic...
"I SEE YOU WHEN YOU'RE ASLEEP!!! I KNOW WHEN YOU'RE AWAKE!!!"
Jarl Santa? ...I'm okay with that.
And tackler of heretics. No joke Saint Nicholas tackled a Heretical Bishop for teaching that Jesus was only Mortal and not Divine. Granted I would probably be upset if I grew up in a time when people I knew were murdered for saying Jesus was God and then a member of my own Religion started saying he wasn't.
I’m just convinced that Kirk Cameron is just making things up as he’s going on
I can't believe something like this movie could get greenlighted by anyone's who's not Kirk Cameron. I just want for Kirk Cameron to know that not all Christians will support this piece of crap movie that confuses its values halfway and then tries to push it down everyone's throat.
The dramatic awe this guy has every time Kirk says something is just.....indescribable.
Damn...this movie contradicts all Christmas movie troupes by being insanely materialistic AND tells insanely gross lies about Christmas and it's traditions in the name of religion that anyone who does actual research on the internet can learn isn't true in 5 minutes?!?
...Wow. Top Kek, Kirk Cameron. Top Kek.
The "Perhaps you could even light the crosses on fire!!!" bit always takes me OUT 😂😂😂
Why does Kirk Cameron deliver every line like he's narrating a documentary for children?
I can totally hear him saying, "The three-toed sloth actually moves so slowly that algae grows inside its fur! I'll bet you've never owned a Chia Pet like this before!"
I actually really appreciate that Santa robe a lot more than just throwing a Santa hat on your head like you and most reviewers often did : )
I was in a bad mood until I saw this review, I laughed so much!! Thank you so much! Christmas is really about blankets, I knew it!
eighty-one people have been drinking Kirk Cameron's Imaginary Hot Cocoa.
I am so glad that youtube knows I want to watch this every year at Christmas time.
So the point of this movie is not to abandon materialism and use your disposable income to help starving children or clean safe wells for potable water but to spend money to create a gift box jerusalem skyline and feel good about buying useless crap for your nuclear family. I really think this is the opposite of the spirit of the new testament,I'm not an expert but... (And the black characters in this movie are just insulting, like setting black folks back 20years smh)
T Graham Seems more like 60 years to me.
The worst - well, one of the worst things about that is that at least 2 of Kirk's adopted children (IRL) are Black. He has *absolutely no* excuse for not seeing that the Black characters are massive racist caricatures. Not that any white person would have much of an excuse anyway, of course.
@@helensearle1896 To be fair, Kirk Cameron did not write or direct this film, so the blame for that goes on the shoulders of Darren Doane (the guy playing Christian White).
@@luckystriker842 That just makes Darren Doane awful too. Kirk's the star (in the loosest possible sense of that term) and the producer, he's got his name in the title; he had enough clout to look at the script and say 'honey, this is shit double shit with a cherry on top, at least please lose the racist caricatures.' And he didn't.
Tyler Perry is worst with his portrayal of black people especially when he's reinforcing stereotypes in every shitty movie.
I love how of all the deeds of St. Nicholas, these dorks chooses the completely mythical act of violence against someone who just disagreed with him.
I would love to find out what kinds of drugs Done and Cameron were on when they made this
Meth, most likely.
Chrisploitation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+Okixjnr Or just simply Xploitation
Brandon Roberts Well Nightmare on Elm Street 2 is pretty gay, does that count?
+Okixjnr Someone should tell Chris he's being exploited.
+Okixjnr It is one of Fear Factory's better songs.
Jenifer Joseph Keep the Christ in Christsploitation!
It's ironic that Cameron's film is just there to push his religious agenda; because this movie is being played in hell 24/7, 365.
Did Cameron really say his divorce was the equivalent of Jesus' death? Cool blasphemy, bro.
Rakshasa he said that? What movie are we talking about it?
@@gracekim1998 The movie was called Fireproof
@@georgemouse504 what was the movie plot?
I would seriously watch Birdemic or The Room before this hot mess of a movie.
I'd rather watch "Manos" the Hands of Fate, unriffed, than see all of this. And that movie ends with an eight-year-old becoming a child bride to a cult leader!
I’d rather watch “insert notoriously bad movie” instead of Saving Christmas.
I'd rather watch Myra Breckinridge. At least it's batshit insane in a good way.
I would watch reefer madness. Another movie with misinformation
And snob has already done
I feel it’s a new Christmas tradition for me to come back and watch this review. It’s just baffling how ANYONE who was part of the production didn’t take one second to look at it and go “hey…doesn’t this all seem a bit wrong?”
From Kirk telling us to imagine all the babies being slaughtered during the nativity, remembering the swaddling cloth is actually Jesus’ death cloth, to saying that all Christmas trees are actually just crosses, to the very image of St Nick beating the shit out of someone for not believing in Jesus enough and Christian going “wow, Santa was the man,” it feels like every single choice made in this film jumped through so many hoops and misunderstood so much of Christmas. Hell, that comment about the presents actually being the new Jerusalem lives rent free in my head with just how out of left field and idiotic it is. It’s a stack of fucking presents, simple and plain, there’s no hidden biblical meaning it no matter what angle you look at them.
And the audacity of Kirk to say with a straight face that giving into excess on Christmas is okay since you’re celebrating God becoming material has got to be the most unchristian (or at least EXTREMELY hypocritical) thing I’ve ever heard come from a religious person’s mouth, especially since in the beginning, Christian was depressed that they were giving into excess and was wondering how many people they could’ve helped. But no, Kirk says we’re worshiping God today, so it’s okay we’re gorging on gigantic feasts with the finest dining.
And the worst part about it is that people actually eat this shit up and believe it. Look at the RT audience ratings of people saying this is 5 stars. All of them are saying how it’s the perfect film for the family and really made them happy with how it recontextualized Christmas for them by bringing it back to the truths, even though 99% of it was just stuff Kirk pulled out of his ass. They don’t question anything, they don’t disagree, they just see God being talked about and clap even though a good chunk of Christians even think this is hot garbage that gives the wrong message.
Loved the ending, too many people took the Passion review seriously.
+Wrath's Attack Maybe there's a good reason for that.
+Wrath's Attack
Man, go read the comments to that Passion of the Christ video. It's fucking insane.
Wrath's Attack Um, people that were clearly pissed off by it.
While I did enjoy the review, I wished it used the correct subtitles as I prefer them properly reacting to what the movie does/says.
+Cade Thumann I didn't mind them not taking the movie very seriously. I was just a little annoyed that they made up subtitles instead of using the actual ones (although I did find it funny).
Remember when religiously based films could actually be good? Or at least tolerable?
Like what?
Josh Combs Ben-Hur (either the 1925 or 1959 version) The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928) The Ten Commandments (1956) Prince of Egypt (1998) etc.
+BlackJackel12 There's also the 1977 miniseries and 1999 film about Jesus.
It's A Wonderful Life was a good Christmas film and more in line with Christian values than this steaming pile of insanity.
BlackJackel12 blues brothers
Aren't we forgetting the real meaning of Christmas, the birth of Santa? - Bart Simpson
by that logic, god created satan therefore its ok to worship the devil XD
It is ok.
Satan's whole vengeance thing could have been solved if God only gave him the promotion he asked for.
Not only that, Lucifer is actually an angel whose only crime was that he loved god too much. His name even means light bringer, so clearly he's the one to be worshipping.
zeugfilms what God we were talking about?
zeugfilms in that case, Hail Satan!
21:46-"Perhaps you can even light the crosses on fire to let the whole town know that your love for Christ burns brighter than any human flame." That line cracks me up every time.😂😂😝
I'm not convinced this isn't the high ramblings of two guys hot-boxing in a car.
I'm a Christian and this movie...that was terrible. So bad. I'm embarrassed for everyone involved in that.
Anyways, if you're taking suggestions, I would love to see you review BBC's 2005 version of the Snow Queen.
KC: "Welcome, everyone. I am so glad you're here."
Brad *laughs* "He's straight."
You are simply awesome. I fell for you as Han Solo on NC channel. So much delicious snark in this video, yum!
Ah yes the druids were famed chocolateers, that's what history remembers about them