I am so happy that I finally found your RUclips channel. I started with a Olympic fencing and Alfred Hutton background, but your book on hungarian saber was the first one I bought when I was finally able to practice hema properly 2 years go. I have had a hard time adjusting to your style of fencing as my body naturally wants to settle into thr L shapes fencing stance. I ended up stopping with Hungarian but these videos make me want to go back and try. I am in your area and hope to one day attend one of your classes at the warrior academe.
You would be more than welcome. Notice in the back of the book, the Hussar training manual? 90% of the bladework in the lineage also exists with the L stance via another manual that I did not translate, "das Sabelfechten" of 1900. You would need to make adjustments and get used to using Prime as well in your repertoire, but it's quite do-able. In the meantime, keeping alignment is excellent training in mastering your use of the body. When you know what you're doing, you can do what you want.
@@russmitchellmovement First let me thank you so very much for this advice. My control over my body movement has always been hard for me. Blocking to my right (blocking 2 and 3) is hard because my body does not like to turn that way. But I am encouraged to keep trying , thank you. Also I am very interested in hat treatise and ase what I can research about it. Im used to using prime because my other primary saber source is Cold Steel by Hutton. I've found I've come to like prime as a secondary engagement guard. I will endeavor to get a class with you soon when my time allows it.
Very nice. I love the use of centerline and body mechanics, and also the subtle and efficient false edge cuts -- very similar to Wing Chun, and a bit different from a lot of sabre that I've seen.
I love your videos. They're well made and easy to follow. It's hard to find tutorials for saber fencing. Even where I live (Montreal,Canada) there's nothing. Thanks.
this is great! the hungarian style perfectly bridges what I've learnt in kung fu and kali with hema. this stuff is gold, I can't wait for my copy of your book to get here.
Thank you for this great video. My clib doesnt teach hungarian sabre, and my sabre is this exact one. I will learn to use it to my advantage, the false edge bind and cut method will be very useful
This is fantastic! Thank you! This is so much like many styles of Filipino Martial Art which I am familiar with. Using the body to move the weapon, attacking the hand (defanging the snake) are all things which are relatable in this video. It makes me want to train this style. Very motivating. Good stuff!
The bind actions are reminiscent of southern German Messer and the body turning to block reminds me of some northern Italian fencing I've seen. It might be a coincidence, but I can't help thinking there's a connection with Hungarian cattle drovers in the Ottoman era taking their cattle to market in these regions.
When you do so, remember that not merely to wave the arms around, but to allow the body to turn a bit so that you keep your hand in front of you. It makes a considerable difference.
The Spanish have somewhat similar mechanics of moving the hand less by turning the body, although they do it more from the hips and with small steps than from the waist. Also, since the Spanish are thrust-centric and permanently extended, they are always trying to make the opponent run onto the point right as their attack is deflected by the Spaniards forte and shell, rather than looking for those tricky false edge cuts. Come to think of it, I actually have no idea why Spanish swords have two edges as I cannot think of a single technique in the system that uses the back of the blade.
Hi Russ, I've been interested in Hungarian/Austrian sabre material for a while, particularly the earlier material. Can you assist me with a source? Thanks!
@@russmitchellmovementI should have worded that better. Can you recommend me a source? I have easy access to the late British sources, but I’m not truly happy with them, they don’t really fit my fighting style
Loving these videos! I am a little confused about one thing though: What block would you use to parry a horizontal cut to the abdomen? Is there anything akin to a half-hanging guard in this system, or would you just lower blocks one and two?
Excuse me, but what's the difference between this saber and the Polish one? I always thought it was Polish. I've been in Hungary last year but did not look for a teacher because I don't know any school in Budapest. 😢
Are the parries in Hungarian saber supposed to "chase" the opponent's sword, or is that a feature of this specific drill? Other military saber systems seem to have more static parries designed to cover a particular attack vector without actively moving out to meet the other sword.
Thank you for the question. No, like other contemporary systems, they close off lines/targets. The "chasing" effect on camera is an artifact coming from the need to compress space to frame the techniques on camera combined with this lineage's unusual stance, which will be the next video made public. You *might* get a similar visual effect on camera, for instance, showing a fencer in 2nd transitioning to 1st to close off the line of a simple direct attack on the inside line. The false edge cuts deriving therefrom are similar-to-identical with those, for example, in the KuK "das Sabelfechten" training pamphlet of 1900.
Yup. Centerline theory and practice is rare enough in Europe that for a while folks accused me of making this system up until some other folks weighed in. I've still never figured out why Csaba's grandfather went this way rather than teaching from 1st like most cavalrymen.
Late 19th and early 20th centuries. There's no need for masks and gloves because we are not bouting. Obviously if we are doing something for demonstration purposes we have the control necessary not to hurt each other doing so.
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Absolutely fundamental building block
Thank you so much for the lesson Russ and the team oxo
I am so happy that I finally found your RUclips channel. I started with a Olympic fencing and Alfred Hutton background, but your book on hungarian saber was the first one I bought when I was finally able to practice hema properly 2 years go.
I have had a hard time adjusting to your style of fencing as my body naturally wants to settle into thr L shapes fencing stance. I ended up stopping with Hungarian but these videos make me want to go back and try.
I am in your area and hope to one day attend one of your classes at the warrior academe.
You would be more than welcome. Notice in the back of the book, the Hussar training manual? 90% of the bladework in the lineage also exists with the L stance via another manual that I did not translate, "das Sabelfechten" of 1900. You would need to make adjustments and get used to using Prime as well in your repertoire, but it's quite do-able.
In the meantime, keeping alignment is excellent training in mastering your use of the body. When you know what you're doing, you can do what you want.
@@russmitchellmovement First let me thank you so very much for this advice. My control over my body movement has always been hard for me. Blocking to my right (blocking 2 and 3) is hard because my body does not like to turn that way. But I am encouraged to keep trying , thank you.
Also I am very interested in hat treatise and ase what I can research about it. Im used to using prime because my other primary saber source is Cold Steel by Hutton. I've found I've come to like prime as a secondary engagement guard.
I will endeavor to get a class with you soon when my time allows it.
Very nice. I love the use of centerline and body mechanics, and also the subtle and efficient false edge cuts -- very similar to Wing Chun, and a bit different from a lot of sabre that I've seen.
Agree and sim to FMA stick and sword as well Love the subtle sames and differences
Absolutely love the work with the false edge of the saber sir!
I love your videos. They're well made and easy to follow. It's hard to find tutorials for saber fencing. Even where I live (Montreal,Canada) there's nothing. Thanks.
This matches the idea in wing chun, I love it.
this is great! the hungarian style perfectly bridges what I've learnt in kung fu and kali with hema. this stuff is gold, I can't wait for my copy of your book to get here.
Id like to update, your book is awesome! Now I can't wait to find a buddy who's up for hitting each other. Oh the joys of living in rural Canada.
Thank you for this great video. My clib doesnt teach hungarian sabre, and my sabre is this exact one. I will learn to use it to my advantage, the false edge bind and cut method will be very useful
Great to see this on video. I've been following your book and its nice to see we were doing it more or less correctly.
This is fantastic! Thank you! This is so much like many styles of Filipino Martial Art which I am familiar with. Using the body to move the weapon, attacking the hand (defanging the snake) are all things which are relatable in this video. It makes me want to train this style. Very motivating. Good stuff!
I prefer to de-snake the fang, honestly. :)
Thank you for the kind words!
Well spoken and thank you for the tips!
Love from Hungary
The bind actions are reminiscent of southern German Messer and the body turning to block reminds me of some northern Italian fencing I've seen. It might be a coincidence, but I can't help thinking there's a connection with Hungarian cattle drovers in the Ottoman era taking their cattle to market in these regions.
Hajduk fencing intensifies!
I'll have to give this one a try.
When you do so, remember that not merely to wave the arms around, but to allow the body to turn a bit so that you keep your hand in front of you. It makes a considerable difference.
For those of you on the fence about getting the book…
GET IT
A great read even if you never intend on fencing.
The Spanish have somewhat similar mechanics of moving the hand less by turning the body, although they do it more from the hips and with small steps than from the waist. Also, since the Spanish are thrust-centric and permanently extended, they are always trying to make the opponent run onto the point right as their attack is deflected by the Spaniards forte and shell, rather than looking for those tricky false edge cuts. Come to think of it, I actually have no idea why Spanish swords have two edges as I cannot think of a single technique in the system that uses the back of the blade.
I used to joke with Stephen Hick that I could make the frog-DNA heresy "La Verdada Szablya" and have it be functional and practical. :)
Hi Russ, I've been interested in Hungarian/Austrian sabre material for a while, particularly the earlier material. Can you assist me with a source? Thanks!
Which source do you need assistance with?
@@russmitchellmovementI should have worded that better. Can you recommend me a source? I have easy access to the late British sources, but I’m not truly happy with them, they don’t really fit my fighting style
Loving these videos! I am a little confused about one thing though: What block would you use to parry a horizontal cut to the abdomen? Is there anything akin to a half-hanging guard in this system, or would you just lower blocks one and two?
Just lower blocks one and two or convert them and do a "dynamic parry" (see video) if you're behind the blade and not going to win the footrace.
@@russmitchellmovement got it, thanks!
Excuse me, but what's the difference between this saber and the Polish one? I always thought it was Polish. I've been in Hungary last year but did not look for a teacher because I don't know any school in Budapest. 😢
Are the parries in Hungarian saber supposed to "chase" the opponent's sword, or is that a feature of this specific drill? Other military saber systems seem to have more static parries designed to cover a particular attack vector without actively moving out to meet the other sword.
Thank you for the question.
No, like other contemporary systems, they close off lines/targets. The "chasing" effect on camera is an artifact coming from the need to compress space to frame the techniques on camera combined with this lineage's unusual stance, which will be the next video made public. You *might* get a similar visual effect on camera, for instance, showing a fencer in 2nd transitioning to 1st to close off the line of a simple direct attack on the inside line.
The false edge cuts deriving therefrom are similar-to-identical with those, for example, in the KuK "das Sabelfechten" training pamphlet of 1900.
@@russmitchellmovement Thanks for the clarification!
I'm from Russia. I'm 57years old. I'm a huszár fanat. I don't know English. I'm alone. ☠️☦⚔
many Hungarians know russian. Look for them online. Sadly I do not speak russian. Sok sikert.
Centerline. This is just like the foundation in Wing Chun.
Yup. Centerline theory and practice is rare enough in Europe that for a while folks accused me of making this system up until some other folks weighed in. I've still never figured out why Csaba's grandfather went this way rather than teaching from 1st like most cavalrymen.
1:25 I cant point to several Japanese tanks that move like that.
great tutorial in Hungarian sabre fencing, is this from the 19th century? I understand it’s a demo, but why no gloves and mask on 🙏
Late 19th and early 20th centuries. There's no need for masks and gloves because we are not bouting. Obviously if we are doing something for demonstration purposes we have the control necessary not to hurt each other doing so.