Personally, I’m a huge fan of The Final Cut. For all that has been said about its direction and interpersonal dysfunction, the somberness of it appeals to that side of me.
It's more a Roger Waters album than Pink Floyd, but I really like. It's dark and captivating. The only downer is the absence of Rick Wright and his beautiful keyboard work.
Personally I love “Street Angel” there are many solid awesome gems 💎 on it. It was one of the only things that got me through one of the worst times in my life, back then. I understand Stevie’s feelings, what with trying to get off a drug some quack put her on just so he could collect money for seeing a celebrity, and working with a producer who thought he was more important than the actual artist. But I think she should be proud of a piece of work that she worked so hard on, that her fans love to pieces!
Stevie’s very hard on street angel. It’s not so much unlistenable as it is just pointless It sounds like it was done to fulfill a contract and quickly distanced. There was a lesson to be learned. Find something to say in your music or go home and collect a few more lamps. She made an artistic comeback beginning in 1997 and it went on for years! In its way it was as intriguing as the 68 comeback special and live at Folsom prison
It’s probably the weakest Stevie Nicks album, but i absolutely love it. The fact that it feels incomplete is part of its charm to me. Plus, it has a handful of songs that rank as some of her best: “Blue Denim,” “Docklands,” “Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind” and “Kick It.” I respect that she wasn’t happy with it, but I respectfully disagree about its merits.
@ agreed. Mirror really hasn’t aged well. It’s got about 2 1/2 listenable songs. And it’s got silly liner notes about her underwear. Stevie was about 40 at the time. Really embarrassing. She ran into problems with her producer during street angel probably because he was trying to rein her in and avoid the self love word salad from mirror. She made compromises for street angel that pleased no one and wound up with a more listenable but ultimately bland offering. It wasn’t strong enough to jump start her career and she quickly distanced herself from it. The artistic comeback was still a few years away
The whole album is much better than many have stated. It’s a moment in time. And as dysfunctionally wasted as they were they still managed a decent album
4:18 - The real interesting thing about Diver Down is the original tunes are incredible, some of the band's best, even if hidden, gems. If nothing else (and there's plenty else when you listen to tracks like 'Hang 'em High' and 'Little Guitars'), Diver Down spiralled EVH even further into frustration, the same that resulted in the murky brilliance that is Fair Warning. But this time instead of darkness, it bred demand for control, control for how and when the band recorded, which culminated in 1984.
As much as I havent liked Gilmours last three studio efforts, I give him props for attempting to create new music. Waters on the other hand has basically been repeating "The Wall" for the past 30 years (when he not busy destroying past works such as DSOTM)
Not sure The Cure have ever criticized any of their own albums even if many of their fans have criticized Wild Mood Swings or several of their post 2000 output. Their latest release is a welcome and surprising return to form but Robert Smith has never had any overall regrets even if he’s a well known perfectionist
David Gilmore was spot on. Always liked Never Say Die to be honest and Let It Be is a classic, The Long and Winding Road could be the greatest song ever written. Couldn't care less about anything else on the list especially the wrap crap it's not even music!
Elton John now dismisses his official debut "Empty Sky" (1969) as "naive" but admits he has pleasant memories recording it. Roger Daltery for the longest time apologized for the Who's (then) swansong "It's Hard" (1982) admitting it "should never have been released". Bad Religion are still ashamed of their Prog attempt "Into the Unknown" (1983). It has never seen a stand-alone rerelease on any format. KISS are still embarrassed by their concept album "The Elder" (1981). I met Gene at an instore and made the mistake of telling my POSITIVE opinion on that LP!
I was a huge Queen fan in 1980s, a tough period for the band as they tried to stay relevant. At the age of 12 I thought The Works was an incredible album when it came out, and it was seeing Brian May that encouraged me to pick up a guitar even playing in a Queen covers band myself in my teens. However I later learned that Freddie only went along with what Brian wanted when they made the album, he wasn't happy about the material but being an adult and it being his job Freddie just supported his very good friend in helping Brian basically make the album Brian wanted. To me that shows that contrary to what most people think, Freddie wasn't a diva, he wasn't egocentric, he was a good man and a good friend by making sure his mates got to do what they wanted even if he didn't really want to. Freddie didn't pout or sulk, he gave it his all to make sure Brian got the best that Freddie could give him. I discovered Metallica in early 1985 with Ride the Lightning and was blown away by Master of Puppets when it came out and agin by "Black", and I actually like "Load" as an album. I don't think it's a true Metallica album that can stand in the flow but it's more like a band just taking a rest, cutting loose and having some fun trying something different. I think "Load" should have been cut back to an EP of 5-6 songs and sold on budget. Now "Reload", that was complete self indulgent shite! They saw Load had shifted units by the bucket load and some moron at the record label must have convinced them to repeat it, it was a fricking mess!
Peter Frampton's '82 release "Art of Control." would have definitely been great for this list, he stated the A&M record label wanted him not to sound like himself.
@MyRetroLife Yes it is and even though Frampton didn't like the new wave direction the label sent him in, many of the songs were catchy and sounded good. The song "Back to Eden" sounds as good as anything he's ever put out.
I've never understood why Mick and Keith have such distaste for TSMR. I count four very good songs (Shes a Rainbow, 2000 Man, 2000 Lightyears from Home, In Another Land) and a couple of other cool tunes. Most bands would love to have an album that good.
Roger Daltrey hates It’s Hard by The Who and said that Pete had his better songs held off the album. I agree with David about The Final Cut (the post Waters albums are all fantastic IMHO). Rick Wright hated The Final Cut and Animals. Genesis disowned Calling All Stations and the debut album. Phil liked Stations despite not playing a note on it. Ace Frehley hated The Elder, Gene Simmons hated Unmasked (I agree with the Demon) Carl Palmer hated In the Hot Seat and Black Moon James Young hated Kilroy while Tommy Shaw has a love anger view on the album.
Correction: Richard Wright had absolutely nothing to do with The Final Cut as he did nor play on it. And no, he did not hate Animals. Where did you invent that from?
@ Rick heard The Final Cut and hated it. He said about Animals “I didn’t like the album much and I didn’t fight very hard to submit my music and I had dried up creativity and also Roger was not letting me contribute”. Read interviews Apollo Creed.
@@TJR-ClassicRockCorner0124 Roger "not letting me contribute" perhaps might have had something to do with Rick floating around the Greek Isles in his yacht in a heroin induced stupor. However, as the album confirms, Rick's contribution was quite healthy.
I don't agree with The Stones about satanic majesties, I really enjoyed that record and they were no different from anyone else at that time doing psychedelia. Even Sgt Pepper was a rip off of the Floyd's and Zappa's debut albums.
John Fogerty's _Eye of the Zombie_ gets a lot of hate, but on that album, he was really trying to create a new style and niche for himself. His later stuff is fine, but not much of it is daring or new. I like that album because Fogerty took himself deliberately out of his comfort zone. Wish he'd kept on doing that.
It's an awful album. John was not trying to create a new style. According to John, i was told to use technically great young players who didn't have any understanding on what i was trying to achieve.
@@6758pasi What are you talking about? The album features only veteran musicians: John Robinson on drums, from Bob Seger's band, and ace bassist Neil Stubenhaus. The rest is all Fogerty's guitar and keys work. "Change in the Weather", "Headlines", and "Wasn't That A Woman" are all great blues-rock numbers. Sorry that you're stuck in a box, but it's a great album. Now we have suffer garbage like "Creedence Song" and hackneyed "Don't You Wish It Was True" and "Deja Vu". The only cool track he did was "In the Garden".
Let It Be is one of their best. They could have had George Martin produce it but after they marginalized him from working on The White Album, he probably wasn't too interested at the time. Paul hates it because Allan Klein hired Spector. Spector only produced four songs on the album and they're all much better than what later appeared on the Let It Be Naked album which sounds nice but will never replace the original release.
Diver down was the last straw for Eddie Van Halen which had him creating/finishing 5150 studios because he wanted to be able to RECORD and CREATE without Ted Templeman and DLR bullying/brow beating him into applying his efforts towards making 'dance music' and cover songs. 1984 was PURE Eddie Van Halen, start to finish, written, recorded and produced by him and Don Landee. Roth didn't like it, which was why he started putting his OWN band together on the other side of LA and never let on that he was LEAVING until after he'd gotten one last HUGE pay out.
Great video! As a very casual VH listener, their feud is just bizarre. Sure, Diver Down was more pop, but so were 1984 and everything else after. So what's EVH's beef? On the other hand, how can DLR hate on 1984 when his solo work was in the same pop-metal vein? Their 'creative differences' seem more about them both being gigantic assholes who wanted total control of everything all the time and wrecked their band because of it. Nothing against Sammy Hagar, but his solo work was way more interesting than anything he did with VH.
@@petec434 It all goes back to the VERY beginning of VH and DLR's relationship with the brothers. Eddie and Alex didn't like Roth's taste in music and while you make the note that 'Eat em and smile' was in the same 'pop/metal' vein, which is true in a general sense, Roth's sense of fashion/flare and over the top spectacle was always drifting away from what Eddie wanted, which was more focus on the music. Sammy was lucky to have three phases of his music career and have ALL of them be successful, making fortunes. I guess, it comes down to personalities and working relationships, DLR never planned to stay in VH, which is why he released his own EP (crazy from the heat), sending the first waves of discontent directly at the VH brothers. Steve Perry did something similar as a flex, in the same way with his solo project. DLR and Perry did their solo work, recorded ONE more album with their bands, then left.
Let's be straight here, a number of these are decent albums. Let It Be is of course wonderful (just a bit orchestrated at times) and tbh I was a little disappointed with the remix - if I listen to it I tend to put on the original. We just won't have the album as it could have been. And Satanic Majesties is imo often underrated simply because of the band's own opinions (obviously it wasn't Sergeant Pepper, and they were shamefully off their heads when they made it) - but listen to the thing people, it's great! Jagger has actually been a bit mean to his own band on this one I think (unless his actual dislike of it is exaggerated too). I like the fact it's a bit far out and messy, where Pepper is so perfectly produced - they balance each other out really well I think. Okay, The Final Cut is essentially a Roger Waters album, but it's still better than anything made by Pink Floyd since Waters left the band imo. Would a David Gilmore production have made it better? Maybe, but we can't be sure. Also, MF Doom may not have liked Venomous Villain (I hadn't even realised) but wasn't it well received by his fans and critics too? (ie despite being a more throwaway affair than normal - and this man had a number of personas, so what is normal Doom?). I listened to it just the once I think (I sold most of my Dooms after he died although I hadn't had them that long) and thought it sounded fine. Just because artists have misgivings doesn't mean the albums are necessarily poor, and whether they are 'missteps' is always going to be subjective. I actually kind of want to listen to that Van Halen album - always a weird artist to me - now that I've heard about it too.
For me, if you take Load, Reload and the new tracks from Garage Inc.....you can pull one good album out of the 3....with a whole lot of stuff that should have been B-Sides left over.
@@prippsguld Oh I know. But even them being cover songs, I'd take Whiskey in a Jar or Turn the Page over quite a few Load/Reload tracks hands down. For me I'd take 4-5 from Load, 3-4 from Reload and 2-3 from Garage Inc. Would make 1 very good album, vs having very bloated Load/Reload albums.
@@prippsguld The playlist I personally made out of that era..... 1) Ecstasy of Gold (Metallica's cover) 2) Ain't My Bitch 3) Fuel 4) The Memory Remains 5) Until It Sleeps 6) King Nothing 7) Hero Of The Day 8) Minus Human 9) Whiskey In A Jar 10) Bleeding Me 11) The Unforgiven II 12) Turn The Page 13) Mama Said 14) I Disapear 72 minutes, so it's right at a full album length....and all the songs are good. The remainder of Load / Reload / New Garage Inc area songs I literally don't listen to....ever
@@danimal097521 I like the inclusion of Minus human, I would however replace Fuel and The memory remains with Outlaw torn I like Whiskey in the jar but I wish they would have done Massacre as their Thin Lizzy cover. For whom the bell tolls and Massacre back to back live would have been killer
Thomas Aquinas wanted all of his works burned on his deathbed. One of the greatest philosophers of all time, thought it was all garbage. I think it might be part of retrospection.
I have the Stones album in my collection and I really enjoy most of it,Mick is a bit to hard on it. Most of the artists mentioned in this video do not interest me the rappers and metal acts in particular. There are great metal bands but for some reason the ones referred to just bore me to tears,sorry Eddie and Ozzy.
Stevie Nicks' Street Angel was HORRIBLE, straight across the board. Someone at the label should have shelved it. As far as I was concerned, her career was over after that. The Fleetwood Mac 'The Dance' reunion resurrected it. If she hadn't done that, you wouldn't be seeing her at all these days.
I don’t know any VH fans who don’t care for “Diver Down”, probably the only gripe is that it’s too short, barely more than an EP, but Eddie has always said he’d rather fail with his own music that succeed covering someone else’s. As for “The Final Cut”, it was really a Roger Waters solo album. Gilmour’s complaint that leftover tracks that weren’t good enough for “The Wall” shouldn’t be good enough for a subsequent release have merit (although “When the Tigers Broke Free” really should have been included on “The Wall”, as it truly fits the narrative of that album and seems as equally out of place on “The Final Cut”). It’s a very well produced record of mostly mediocre songs that I usually listen to once a year before remembering why I don’t listen to it more often.
The Final Cut without the other three members of Pink Floyd would have been terrible since Roger Waters is bad at arrangements of songs. Great writer of lyrics, bad at putting music to them.
The original Let It Be still stands as a classic that will never be 2nd to the naked version.Paul's Long And Winding Road is noted in the US as being their last #1 hit before they went their separate ways
Yeah, but McCartney HATED what Phil Spector did with the track, though. He DIDN’T want the full orchestra and choir. He just wanted a simple backing track.
Diver Down is awesome and features too of my favourite VH tracks - Little Guitars and Senorita - the rest of the tracks yes even the covers are good too
Their Satanic Majesties' Request is one of the Stones' best albums, it's just quite different from what anyone would expect from them. 2000 light Years From Home is an eternal volume 11 masterpiece. Van Halen peaked with the cohesive high quality Fair Warning and the absolute jewels of Pretty Woman and the instrumental pieces on Diver Down. 1984, like a lot of '80's rock, just didn't last in the long run. Panama was the last reason I kept that album but finally let it go last year because I wouldn't miss it anymore. It's fitting that they wrapped up Diver Down with Happy Trails because at that point VH was done and it was a silly fun goodbye.
I saw her in Nov of 1983 in Ames, Iowa. Worst concert I ever went to. She didn’t know where she was and she messed up lyrics to her own songs. I vowed then never to buy anymore Stevie Nicks music from then on. Joe Walsh was her warm up and he was amazing!
I'm turning on them. Adam Carolla recently had a great rant about how you can't turn on a radio or go to a store without hearing Fleetwood Mac or the Eagles, and I've really been noticing how right he is. So many great songs have been run into the ground.
I like both versions of Let it Be but Naked is better. I never really liked Spector’s wall of sound. The only wall of sound that worked was Jim Steinem, but I think he planned to be bombastic. He needed big sound with Meatloaf’s big voice.
Spector was a one trick pony. He made everything he touched sound the same. That not good production. He was just the first to do it but couldn’t do anything else. He was no Mutt Lange or Nile Rodgers.
I love the final cut and i have never considered floyd without waters works worth a crap. I also love waters solo stuff and hate gilmore's solo stuff. Completely different band without waters
I like The Final Cut, but I don't consider it a Pink Floyd album. And I hate all the Roger Waters solo efforts. And I hate the Floyd albums without Roger
Rod who didn't attend many sessions for what became Ooo La La, said he didn't like the album just as it was about to be released. For me Satanic Majesties is ok.
@@rafaelallenblock Another Brick In The Wall (Parts 1, 2 and 3), One Of My Turns, Vera ( not actually on the album, but is included in the lyrics for the album), Outside The Wall…..
The Wall was my intro to Floyd and I loved it. It’s a great rock opera that begs to be listened to in its entirety. I saw RW “the Wall” live in 2011. Excellent concert.
Eminem is old news. Whatever shred of relevance he once had is merely relegated to someone's stoned memory. The nineties would've been a better time without him.
My favorite part is the note from Paul McCartney, "Don't ever do it again!" McCartney was always my favorite Beatle. But.....I still say Spector's wall of sound addition was better to "The Long and Winding Road."
Me too. "Diver Down" includes "Little Guitars" one of my favorite VH pieces, and "Cathedral" and "Big Bad Bill (Is Sweet William Now)" featuring Eddie and Alex's dad on clarinet in a fun oldie 1930's style piece, unique and charming for VH. And "Pretty Woman" cover was well done.
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George Martin refused to have a credit on Let It Be. Finally he said ‘You can put “Produced by George Martin, Overproduced by Phil Spector”.’
I love "The Long and Winding Road," but I agree it is more moving on just piano without the orchestral flourishes.
Personally, I’m a huge fan of The Final Cut. For all that has been said about its direction and interpersonal dysfunction, the somberness of it appeals to that side of me.
Me too. Underrated. The title track is awesome
‘In derelict sidings the poppies entwine
With cattle trucks lying in wait for the next time”. Has haunted me for 40 years.
It's more a Roger Waters album than Pink Floyd, but I really like. It's dark and captivating. The only downer is the absence of Rick Wright and his beautiful keyboard work.
Yes, love the album. The lyrics and mood are so good.
Personally I love “Street Angel” there are many solid awesome gems 💎 on it. It was one of the only things that got me through one of the worst times in my life, back then. I understand Stevie’s feelings, what with trying to get off a drug some quack put her on just so he could collect money for seeing a celebrity, and working with a producer who thought he was more important than the actual artist. But I think she should be proud of a piece of work that she worked so hard on, that her fans love to pieces!
Stevie’s very hard on street angel. It’s not so much unlistenable as it is just pointless It sounds like it was done to fulfill a contract and quickly distanced. There was a lesson to be learned. Find something to say in your music or go home and collect a few more lamps. She made an artistic comeback beginning in 1997 and it went on for years! In its way it was as intriguing as the 68 comeback special and live at Folsom prison
It’s probably the weakest Stevie Nicks album, but i absolutely love it. The fact that it feels incomplete is part of its charm to me.
Plus, it has a handful of songs that rank as some of her best: “Blue Denim,” “Docklands,” “Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind” and “Kick It.”
I respect that she wasn’t happy with it, but I respectfully disagree about its merits.
I also like Street Angel a lot. I’d rather listen to SA than The Other Side of the Mirror…
@ agreed. Mirror really hasn’t aged well. It’s got about 2 1/2 listenable songs. And it’s got silly liner notes about her underwear. Stevie was about 40 at the time. Really embarrassing. She ran into problems with her producer during street angel probably because he was trying to rein her in and avoid the self love word salad from mirror. She made compromises for street angel that pleased no one and wound up with a more listenable but ultimately bland offering. It wasn’t strong enough to jump start her career and she quickly distanced herself from it. The artistic comeback was still a few years away
I'm not a fan of the Shangrila album but I Love the majority of her other albums. ❤
"Never say die" was awesome..
Agree. Don't get the hate.
That album was a mixed bag yes, but by no means bad, just unfocused. One of my all time favorite Sabbath tracks is on that album. It's Air Dance!
@ Air Dance is so underrated!
@Juniors Eyes too! I thought Technical Ecstasy was a far worse album..
Man, when Stevie Nicks needs money after Rumours became the biggest album of all time, there's something wrong SOMEWHERE in the mix.
All for drugs
Lindsey Buckingham’s net worth is about double Stevie Nick’s even though she is the bigger “star” of those two. Says a lot.
I can think of one word that explains it all.
@@robertfenyk3132 Thats because he often acts as producer. Production is where the money is. And staying sober when you sign contracts.
2000 Light years from Home…is a great song
The whole album is much better than many have stated. It’s a moment in time. And as dysfunctionally wasted as they were they still managed a decent album
4:18 - The real interesting thing about Diver Down is the original tunes are incredible, some of the band's best, even if hidden, gems. If nothing else (and there's plenty else when you listen to tracks like 'Hang 'em High' and 'Little Guitars'), Diver Down spiralled EVH even further into frustration, the same that resulted in the murky brilliance that is Fair Warning. But this time instead of darkness, it bred demand for control, control for how and when the band recorded, which culminated in 1984.
As much as I havent liked Gilmours last three studio efforts, I give him props for attempting to create new music. Waters on the other hand has basically been repeating "The Wall" for the past 30 years (when he not busy destroying past works such as DSOTM)
What rubbish you've written here. Clueless.
Luck and strange is brilliant
And blatantly lip syncing
You don’t like Luck and Strange?
@@Nikki-l5p9y No and I went in hoping to, but it didn't appeal to me just like "Rattle That Lock" and "On An Island" didn't either.
EVERY band has an album they regret.
Not sure The Cure have ever criticized any of their own albums even if many of their fans have criticized Wild Mood Swings or several of their post 2000 output. Their latest release is a welcome and surprising return to form but Robert Smith has never had any overall regrets even if he’s a well known perfectionist
This is often what we used to call "selling out." Release a product you know is shit, but who cares because people will buy it anyway.
I always associated selling out with surrendering your principles in order to cash in on a trend. Either way, it’s not cool
David Gilmore was spot on. Always liked Never Say Die to be honest and Let It Be is a classic, The Long and Winding Road could be the greatest song ever written. Couldn't care less about anything else on the list especially the wrap crap it's not even music!
Gilmour not gilmore
Elton John now dismisses his official debut "Empty Sky" (1969) as "naive" but admits he has pleasant memories recording it.
Roger Daltery for the longest time apologized for the Who's (then) swansong "It's Hard" (1982) admitting it "should never have been released".
Bad Religion are still ashamed of their Prog attempt "Into the Unknown" (1983). It has never seen a stand-alone rerelease on any format.
KISS are still embarrassed by their concept album "The Elder" (1981). I met Gene at an instore and made the mistake of telling my POSITIVE opinion on that LP!
Gene must be used to nice words for "Music From The Elder," as the album has enjoyed a major resurgence in and outside of KISS Army.
Elton John? Seriously? What are you doing here?
I was a huge Queen fan in 1980s, a tough period for the band as they tried to stay relevant. At the age of 12 I thought The Works was an incredible album when it came out, and it was seeing Brian May that encouraged me to pick up a guitar even playing in a Queen covers band myself in my teens.
However I later learned that Freddie only went along with what Brian wanted when they made the album, he wasn't happy about the material but being an adult and it being his job Freddie just supported his very good friend in helping Brian basically make the album Brian wanted. To me that shows that contrary to what most people think, Freddie wasn't a diva, he wasn't egocentric, he was a good man and a good friend by making sure his mates got to do what they wanted even if he didn't really want to. Freddie didn't pout or sulk, he gave it his all to make sure Brian got the best that Freddie could give him.
I discovered Metallica in early 1985 with Ride the Lightning and was blown away by Master of Puppets when it came out and agin by "Black", and I actually like "Load" as an album. I don't think it's a true Metallica album that can stand in the flow but it's more like a band just taking a rest, cutting loose and having some fun trying something different. I think "Load" should have been cut back to an EP of 5-6 songs and sold on budget. Now "Reload", that was complete self indulgent shite! They saw Load had shifted units by the bucket load and some moron at the record label must have convinced them to repeat it, it was a fricking mess!
Peter Frampton's '82 release "Art of Control." would have definitely been great for this list, he stated the A&M record label wanted him not to sound like himself.
Ironic album title then
@MyRetroLife Yes it is and even though Frampton didn't like the new wave direction the label sent him in, many of the songs were catchy and sounded good. The song "Back to Eden" sounds as good as anything he's ever put out.
I've never understood why Mick and Keith have such distaste for TSMR. I count four very good songs (Shes a Rainbow, 2000 Man, 2000 Lightyears from Home, In Another Land) and a couple of other cool tunes. Most bands would love to have an album that good.
Roger Daltrey hates It’s Hard by The Who and said that Pete had his better songs held off the album.
I agree with David about The Final Cut (the post Waters albums are all fantastic IMHO). Rick Wright hated The Final Cut and Animals.
Genesis disowned Calling All Stations and the debut album. Phil liked Stations despite not playing a note on it.
Ace Frehley hated The Elder, Gene Simmons hated Unmasked (I agree with the Demon)
Carl Palmer hated In the Hot Seat and Black Moon
James Young hated Kilroy while Tommy Shaw has a love anger view on the album.
Correction: Richard Wright had absolutely nothing to do with The Final Cut as he did nor play on it. And no, he did not hate Animals. Where did you invent that from?
@ Rick heard The Final Cut and hated it. He said about Animals “I didn’t like the album much and I didn’t fight very hard to submit my music and I had dried up creativity and also Roger was not letting me contribute”. Read interviews Apollo Creed.
@@TJR-ClassicRockCorner0124 Roger "not letting me contribute" perhaps might have had something to do with Rick floating around the Greek Isles in his yacht in a heroin induced stupor. However, as the album confirms, Rick's contribution was quite healthy.
Sorry, not sorry. I love Never Say Die. It was way ahead of it's time
I don't agree with The Stones about satanic majesties, I really enjoyed that record and they were no different from anyone else at that time doing psychedelia. Even Sgt Pepper was a rip off of the Floyd's and Zappa's debut albums.
She's Like a Rainbow is a gem.
@@zstevens710,000 Light Years From Home is a good one too.
@@zstevens72000 Man too
John Fogerty's _Eye of the Zombie_ gets a lot of hate, but on that album, he was really trying to create a new style and niche for himself. His later stuff is fine, but not much of it is daring or new. I like that album because Fogerty took himself deliberately out of his comfort zone. Wish he'd kept on doing that.
It's an awful album. John was not trying to create a new style. According to John, i was told to use technically great young players who didn't have any understanding on what i was trying to achieve.
@@6758pasi What are you talking about? The album features only veteran musicians: John Robinson on drums, from Bob Seger's band, and ace bassist Neil Stubenhaus. The rest is all Fogerty's guitar and keys work. "Change in the Weather", "Headlines", and "Wasn't That A Woman" are all great blues-rock numbers. Sorry that you're stuck in a box, but it's a great album. Now we have suffer garbage like "Creedence Song" and hackneyed "Don't You Wish It Was True" and "Deja Vu". The only cool track he did was "In the Garden".
@@6758pasi You can really sit through "Swamp River Days" and "Joy of My Life" and "Blue Moon Nights"?
@ Υομ can really sit through "Swamp River Days" and "Joy of My Life" and "Blue Moon Nights"?
@ So, quit making up shit and pretending you know what you're talking about.
It’s ok Stevie, I hate your albums too
😂😂😂
Eminem can't help buy rhyme, even in interviews.
Let It Be is one of their best. They could have had George Martin produce it but after they marginalized him from working on The White Album, he probably wasn't too interested at the time. Paul hates it because Allan Klein hired Spector. Spector only produced four songs on the album and they're all much better than what later appeared on the Let It Be Naked album which sounds nice but will never replace the original release.
I don't care what anybody else thinks... I have always loved Their Satanic Majesties Request
The Final Cut is insufferable and even the politics aged like sour milk. Nobody is putting this album on heavy rotation at home.
I like some of those songs
I still am.
I still listen to it from time to time and I pretty much know the lyrics to the whole album.
I know Ozzy doesnt like The Ultimate Sin but I think its one of his best.
Intruder is a Van Halen classic
Diver down was the last straw for Eddie Van Halen which had him creating/finishing 5150 studios because he wanted to be able to RECORD and CREATE without Ted Templeman and DLR bullying/brow beating him into applying his efforts towards making 'dance music' and cover songs. 1984 was PURE Eddie Van Halen, start to finish, written, recorded and produced by him and Don Landee. Roth didn't like it, which was why he started putting his OWN band together on the other side of LA and never let on that he was LEAVING until after he'd gotten one last HUGE pay out.
Great video! As a very casual VH listener, their feud is just bizarre. Sure, Diver Down was more pop, but so were 1984 and everything else after. So what's EVH's beef? On the other hand, how can DLR hate on 1984 when his solo work was in the same pop-metal vein? Their 'creative differences' seem more about them both being gigantic assholes who wanted total control of everything all the time and wrecked their band because of it. Nothing against Sammy Hagar, but his solo work was way more interesting than anything he did with VH.
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It all goes back to the VERY beginning of VH and DLR's relationship with the brothers. Eddie and Alex didn't like Roth's taste in music and while you make the note that 'Eat em and smile' was in the same 'pop/metal' vein, which is true in a general sense, Roth's sense of fashion/flare and over the top spectacle was always drifting away from what Eddie wanted, which was more focus on the music. Sammy was lucky to have three phases of his music career and have ALL of them be successful, making fortunes.
I guess, it comes down to personalities and working relationships, DLR never planned to stay in VH, which is why he released his own EP (crazy from the heat), sending the first waves of discontent directly at the VH brothers.
Steve Perry did something similar as a flex, in the same way with his solo project. DLR and Perry did their solo work, recorded ONE more album with their bands, then left.
The Final Cut was so bad, but worse than imaginable because of the great, great music expected of them. A turd among diamonds.
Let's be straight here, a number of these are decent albums. Let It Be is of course wonderful (just a bit orchestrated at times) and tbh I was a little disappointed with the remix - if I listen to it I tend to put on the original. We just won't have the album as it could have been. And Satanic Majesties is imo often underrated simply because of the band's own opinions (obviously it wasn't Sergeant Pepper, and they were shamefully off their heads when they made it) - but listen to the thing people, it's great! Jagger has actually been a bit mean to his own band on this one I think (unless his actual dislike of it is exaggerated too). I like the fact it's a bit far out and messy, where Pepper is so perfectly produced - they balance each other out really well I think.
Okay, The Final Cut is essentially a Roger Waters album, but it's still better than anything made by Pink Floyd since Waters left the band imo. Would a David Gilmore production have made it better? Maybe, but we can't be sure.
Also, MF Doom may not have liked Venomous Villain (I hadn't even realised) but wasn't it well received by his fans and critics too? (ie despite being a more throwaway affair than normal - and this man had a number of personas, so what is normal Doom?). I listened to it just the once I think (I sold most of my Dooms after he died although I hadn't had them that long) and thought it sounded fine.
Just because artists have misgivings doesn't mean the albums are necessarily poor, and whether they are 'missteps' is always going to be subjective. I actually kind of want to listen to that Van Halen album - always a weird artist to me - now that I've heard about it too.
Stevie Nicks:" I needed some coke money so I ripped off my fans. So what?"
No I think this was post-coke, deep into Valium and xanax.
I think that time around, it wasn’t cocaine but instead Klonopin. You could easily get it from a doctor for the price of a copay.
@@williamglenn777 Ironically, it was meds she was taking to fight her old addictions that gave her new ones instead.
I can’t find songs to even make a single album from Load and Reload.
For me, if you take Load, Reload and the new tracks from Garage Inc.....you can pull one good album out of the 3....with a whole lot of stuff that should have been B-Sides left over.
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I agree with you on that. The ”new” cover songs on Garage inc could have completed the set but they are just that, cover songs…
@@prippsguld Oh I know. But even them being cover songs, I'd take Whiskey in a Jar or Turn the Page over quite a few Load/Reload tracks hands down.
For me I'd take 4-5 from Load, 3-4 from Reload and 2-3 from Garage Inc. Would make 1 very good album, vs having very bloated Load/Reload albums.
@@prippsguld The playlist I personally made out of that era.....
1) Ecstasy of Gold (Metallica's cover)
2) Ain't My Bitch
3) Fuel
4) The Memory Remains
5) Until It Sleeps
6) King Nothing
7) Hero Of The Day
8) Minus Human
9) Whiskey In A Jar
10) Bleeding Me
11) The Unforgiven II
12) Turn The Page
13) Mama Said
14) I Disapear
72 minutes, so it's right at a full album length....and all the songs are good. The remainder of Load / Reload / New Garage Inc area songs I literally don't listen to....ever
@@danimal097521 I like the inclusion of Minus human, I would however replace Fuel and The memory remains with Outlaw torn
I like Whiskey in the jar but I wish they would have done Massacre as their Thin Lizzy cover. For whom the bell tolls and Massacre back to back live would have been killer
I don't mind Diver Down, but the best parts of it have zero singing. 👽🗿👽
Thomas Aquinas wanted all of his works burned on his deathbed. One of the greatest philosophers of all time, thought it was all garbage. I think it might be part of retrospection.
I have the Stones album in my collection and I really enjoy most of it,Mick is a bit to hard on it. Most of the artists mentioned in this video do not interest me the rappers and metal acts in particular. There are great metal bands but for some reason the ones referred to just bore me to tears,sorry Eddie and Ozzy.
Stevie Nicks' Street Angel was HORRIBLE, straight across the board. Someone at the label should have shelved it. As far as I was concerned, her career was over after that. The Fleetwood Mac 'The Dance' reunion resurrected it. If she hadn't done that, you wouldn't be seeing her at all these days.
I don’t know any VH fans who don’t care for “Diver Down”, probably the only gripe is that it’s too short, barely more than an EP, but Eddie has always said he’d rather fail with his own music that succeed covering someone else’s.
As for “The Final Cut”, it was really a Roger Waters solo album. Gilmour’s complaint that leftover tracks that weren’t good enough for “The Wall” shouldn’t be good enough for a subsequent release have merit (although “When the Tigers Broke Free” really should have been included on “The Wall”, as it truly fits the narrative of that album and seems as equally out of place on “The Final Cut”). It’s a very well produced record of mostly mediocre songs that I usually listen to once a year before remembering why I don’t listen to it more often.
And so Eddie did
"waaaah I am very rich" ingrates.
Wut
The Final Cut without the other three members of Pink Floyd would have been terrible since Roger Waters is bad at arrangements of songs. Great writer of lyrics, bad at putting music to them.
You guys did what you did.. deal with it!!
The original Let It Be still stands as a classic that will never be 2nd to the naked version.Paul's Long And Winding Road is noted in the US as being their last #1 hit before they went their separate ways
Yeah, but McCartney HATED what Phil Spector did with the track, though. He DIDN’T want the full orchestra and choir. He just wanted a simple backing track.
Who cares about US singles. They don't matter. Everything you got over there was second hand.
Aerosmith Draw the Line. AC/DC Fly on the Wall.
Draw the Line is filthy!
I don't believe it; _'Easy Living With Black Sabbath'_ 😂
Diver Down was actually good.
11. Me. I did this noise album limited to 8 cassettes like 17 years ago and it's absolute trash. Not quite as far as embarassing, but it sucks.
Diver Down is awesome and features too of my favourite VH tracks - Little Guitars and Senorita - the rest of the tracks yes even the covers are good too
Yeah I liked that album, "Secrets" and "Little Guitars" were great tracks.
Nothing wrong with the Final Cut ..better than any PF album that came after
The Division Bell is waaaay better
@ Personal preference I suppose but I’d always prefer to listen to The Final Cut over the Division Bell
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@@safersects4633 BS. Opinions work 2 ways
Their Satanic Majesties' Request is one of the Stones' best albums, it's just quite different from what anyone would expect from them. 2000 light Years From Home is an eternal volume 11 masterpiece. Van Halen peaked with the cohesive high quality Fair Warning and the absolute jewels of Pretty Woman and the instrumental pieces on Diver Down. 1984, like a lot of '80's rock, just didn't last in the long run. Panama was the last reason I kept that album but finally let it go last year because I wouldn't miss it anymore. It's fitting that they wrapped up Diver Down with Happy Trails because at that point VH was done and it was a silly fun goodbye.
Majesties' is a fun album.
I never thought Stevie Nicks and I would have anything in common. I hate her records too. As well as her live performances.
I get it but not 70’s Stevie.
@@TheFullKanani Yeah,I hope it was worth it to be childless.
I saw her in Nov of 1983 in Ames, Iowa. Worst concert I ever went to. She didn’t know where she was and she messed up lyrics to her own songs. I vowed then never to buy anymore Stevie Nicks music from then on. Joe Walsh was her warm up and he was amazing!
I'm turning on them. Adam Carolla recently had a great rant about how you can't turn on a radio or go to a store without hearing Fleetwood Mac or the Eagles, and I've really been noticing how right he is. So many great songs have been run into the ground.
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No children can be a blessing to some people.
I like both versions of Let it Be but Naked is better. I never really liked Spector’s wall of sound. The only wall of sound that worked was Jim Steinem, but I think he planned to be bombastic. He needed big sound with Meatloaf’s big voice.
Spector was a one trick pony. He made everything he touched sound the same. That not good production. He was just the first to do it but couldn’t do anything else. He was no Mutt Lange or Nile Rodgers.
I love the final cut and i have never considered floyd without waters works worth a crap. I also love waters solo stuff and hate gilmore's solo stuff. Completely different band without waters
I like The Final Cut, but I don't consider it a Pink Floyd album. And I hate all the Roger Waters solo efforts. And I hate the Floyd albums without Roger
@ your a bigger filbert than even me
Eminem has way worse albums than Relapse
Rod who didn't attend many sessions for what became Ooo La La, said he didn't like the album just as it was about to be released. For me Satanic Majesties is ok.
Revival is Ems worst album.
The Long and Winding Road is a great song…
if you like church type music. Lennon hated it.
Encore was a great album. Relapse was forgettable indeed.
Roger Waters can kick rocks.
How did Eminem and MF Doom get inserted into this video? If If were them I would regret my entire career.
I hate Stevie Nicks' albums, too.
The success of the bloated, weak double album The Wall destroyed Pink Floyd.
Weak?The Wall is brilliant
@@CutiePie-hh3gg Nah: Nobody can name half of the songs. It's a good single album padded with Waters' ego.
@@rafaelallenblock Another Brick In The Wall (Parts 1, 2 and 3), One Of My Turns, Vera ( not actually on the album, but is included in the lyrics for the album), Outside The Wall…..
Love The Wall, not so much The Final Cut
The Wall was my intro to Floyd and I loved it. It’s a great rock opera that begs to be listened to in its entirety.
I saw RW “the Wall” live in 2011. Excellent concert.
Eminem is old news. Whatever shred of relevance he once had is merely relegated to someone's stoned memory. The nineties would've been a better time without him.
I couldn’t agree with you more! One million percent!
Perfectly ghastly background music! Repetitive drivel.
My favorite part is the note from Paul McCartney, "Don't ever do it again!" McCartney was always my favorite Beatle. But.....I still say Spector's wall of sound addition was better to "The Long and Winding Road."
I tend to agree, the “Naked” version always sounded unfinished to me. I could see why Spector thought it needed something more
Eminem redeems himself admitting that. I love young people. I want you to thrive.
Eddie should of complained that much about that awful VH3
Right? What made him think that sonic mess was releasable?
@drmusic3641 lol you know it
It’s only the mix of VH3 that’s terrible….needs a better mix.
*should've
I love diver down
Me too. "Diver Down" includes "Little Guitars" one of my favorite VH pieces, and "Cathedral" and "Big Bad Bill (Is Sweet William Now)" featuring Eddie and Alex's dad on clarinet in a fun oldie 1930's style piece, unique and charming for VH. And "Pretty Woman" cover was well done.
I can’t stand Van Halen
@@carlcushmanhybels8159 and I love their version of dancing in the street, they were amazing with every cover they ever did
@@timcoakley5498 and Van Halen cant stand you.
I can make plum pudding from scratch
Metallica at their very best were unworthy of an appearance on Napster.