All dash preorder victims listen up. Let’s start a class action suit for damages related to this scam. It’s been too long, and I still have no working unit. Bad winners needs to make this right, and reimburse each of us for the preorder cost of a unit we never received, plus the cost to return their faulty unit. Plus my time and lawyers fees
Dudes, I ordered this back in January of 2022 right after the release. I was told the the dash would ship in April, May, June, and July. Then, the conversations between BW and me went dark. I paid $725 for a new dash, and they can't even explain to me why the shipment has shifted. This is a bad buy. Even after watching install videos, the end user almost always has issues
So wait, I just went to the website… First people have been waiting for these things forever apparently and second there’s no Bluetooth connectivity or phone integration…? So basically it does the same thing as the stock display but it’s colorful… it also apparently doesn’t work I don’t think it’s worth it… this seems like pretty simple coding to me…
I have been working on an alternative. Now joined a group working on an alternative. Also trying some "generic" alternatives that are getting good reviews but need some more development time to replace the 'Pilen dash.
I did end up receiving my mine after almost 6 months. While I don't have the TC and ABS errors, after installing my turn signals don't work and it constantly draws power from my battery. My bike is always plugged into a battery tender when not in use and prior to installing the dash I hadn't had any battery issues. After installing the dash I drove 2 miles down the road and got a hair cut. When I came back to the bike my battery was dead. I pulled the battery and recharged it. Removed the dash and installed the original. I haven't had any electrical issues since. I reached out to BW for a refund and 👻
@@BlueHusky701 Ooooof… honestly I would love the display that’s on the new 401’s but this obviously isn’t a substitute… sorry you wasted a bunch of money and had to wait to do it.
No. TC Failure is a software problem. TC is working when this message flashes. ABS Failure is a software problem. ABS is on and working when this messages flashes. CAN Bus HLU failure is real. Maybe. The OEM Dashboard displays it most of the time. Sometimes It does not. I have not found the problem.
I no longer recommend Bad Winners at all. I have my Dashboard which was a used unit with old software. I have a newer as in more recently made, unit from another BW customer and his goes blank after 10 feet. I know why it does this. Bad Winners has failed to respond to any request for customer support. I even offered to become the first line of support for them in North and South America free of charge. They do not understand this. Perhaps they think it is some sort of scam. They threatened me with lawyers, they have threatened other customers with lawyers. I schooled them in a little bit of international law. It saddens me. On a good note. I really wanted something different from OEM and had been working on my own version. When I purchased the BW dashboard I put that project on pause. I have since resurrected that project made significant progress. There is still a great deal to do. I have to "re-invent the wheel". Meaning reverse engineer all the KTM/Husquvarna signals that go into the dashboard as well as decide if it will be touch screen or buttons, how it should look and more. Down to the details of what the turn signal lights on the dashboard should look like. Go to Facebook for a look at what is going on so far. facebook.com/groups/1132642157327839/ facebook.com/raptorroadperformance
It is an improvement in many ways. There are delivery problems with the company. It has a few software problems. The CNC Aliuminum housing is very heavy but attractive. The display is very clear and much easier to read when riding at night.
I don't know who you are but it is not a scam for the simple reason. I don't sell. Anything. We are just a group that wanted so much for this product to work. It doesn't.
All dash preorder victims listen up. Let’s start a class action suit for damages related to this scam. It’s been too long, and I still have no working unit. Bad winners needs to make this right, and reimburse each of us for the preorder cost of a unit we never received, plus the cost to return their faulty unit. Plus my time and lawyers fees
Dudes, I ordered this back in January of 2022 right after the release. I was told the the dash would ship in April, May, June, and July. Then, the conversations between BW and me went dark. I paid $725 for a new dash, and they can't even explain to me why the shipment has shifted. This is a bad buy. Even after watching install videos, the end user almost always has issues
Yup. That is why I created the Facebook group facebook.com/groups/1132642157327839
So wait, I just went to the website… First people have been waiting for these things forever apparently and second there’s no Bluetooth connectivity or phone integration…? So basically it does the same thing as the stock display but it’s colorful… it also apparently doesn’t work I don’t think it’s worth it… this seems like pretty simple coding to me…
See the Facebook group Bad Winners Customers.
I have been working on an alternative. Now joined a group working on an alternative.
Also trying some "generic" alternatives that are getting good reviews but need some more development time to replace the 'Pilen dash.
I did end up receiving my mine after almost 6 months. While I don't have the TC and ABS errors, after installing my turn signals don't work and it constantly draws power from my battery. My bike is always plugged into a battery tender when not in use and prior to installing the dash I hadn't had any battery issues.
After installing the dash I drove 2 miles down the road and got a hair cut. When I came back to the bike my battery was dead. I pulled the battery and recharged it. Removed the dash and installed the original. I haven't had any electrical issues since. I reached out to BW for a refund and 👻
@@BlueHusky701 Ooooof… honestly I would love the display that’s on the new 401’s but this obviously isn’t a substitute… sorry you wasted a bunch of money and had to wait to do it.
Is the original odometer reading lost as it seems this one starts counting from zero
You can enter the Odo number including change it any time.
did you ever figure out how to get rid of the failures on the screen?
No. TC Failure is a software problem. TC is working when this message flashes. ABS Failure is a software problem. ABS is on and working when this messages flashes.
CAN Bus HLU failure is real. Maybe. The OEM Dashboard displays it most of the time. Sometimes It does not. I have not found the problem.
Would love one of these but I hear they’re backordered for forever : (
facebook.com/groups/1132642157327839/
facebook.com/groups/1132642157327839
Still haven't received my order from them. Almost a month
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Do you recommend it sir?
I no longer recommend Bad Winners at all.
I have my Dashboard which was a used unit with old software. I have a newer as in more recently made, unit from another BW customer and his goes blank after 10 feet. I know why it does this.
Bad Winners has failed to respond to any request for customer support. I even offered to become the first line of support for them in North and South America free of charge. They do not understand this. Perhaps they think it is some sort of scam.
They threatened me with lawyers, they have threatened other customers with lawyers. I schooled them in a little bit of international law.
It saddens me.
On a good note. I really wanted something different from OEM and had been working on my own version. When I purchased the BW dashboard I put that project on pause. I have since resurrected that project made significant progress. There is still a great deal to do. I have to "re-invent the wheel". Meaning reverse engineer all the KTM/Husquvarna signals that go into the dashboard as well as decide if it will be touch screen or buttons, how it should look and more. Down to the details of what the turn signal lights on the dashboard should look like.
Go to Facebook for a look at what is going on so far.
facebook.com/groups/1132642157327839/
facebook.com/raptorroadperformance
@@jfseaman1 Thank you for answer! Have good day Sir :)
Im concerned this is worth the price
It is an improvement in many ways.
There are delivery problems with the company.
It has a few software problems.
The CNC Aliuminum housing is very heavy but attractive. The display is very clear and much easier to read when riding at night.
scaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmm
I don't know who you are but it is not a scam for the simple reason.
I don't sell. Anything.
We are just a group that wanted so much for this product to work. It doesn't.