Technically I did it first but I'm not a streamer and I don't make videos so nobody believes me. Savj representin Mammoth Standard Mill Rogue pretty well, mad respect.
Played some mill at legend the last few days. Pretty inconsistent, but it does destroy Jade Druid and living mana if you have the vanish ready although here I don't think that Druid understood how living mana worked with vanish. Should have started playing them and probably still wins.
Hey I stared to play hearthstone a week ago, because of that i down now much about decks. so i want to ask ,is the goal of this deck that the enemy dies by drawing cards like you did in this fight ? Sorry for mistakes in this Text im from germany and not from england ^^
Yep, a lot of slower decks keep fatigue in mind as an alternate win condition but druid and rogue in particular have several tools that make it quite viable to just plan around doing this every game. Even better, since most decks run some form of card draw on their own and mill decks aren't particularly common you have the advantage of your opponent often helping you at first by running through their deck more quickly. It's a risky strategy (giving your enemy lots of things that they want to use to kill you can obviously backfire) but it's a fun change from the usual ways of winning.
Luis Wagener Quick lesson about decks: Control: slow high value decks which play to the end and beat the opponent there. Combo: beat the opponent in a single turn with a combo of cards. Aggro: beat the opponent before they have to time to set up Midrange: beat opponent in the middle of the game. Mill: beat the opponent by making them draw into fatigue.
curator is there only for one purpose - drawing coldlight oracle so you might replace it with .... anything , because nothing else would guarantee you an oracle draw so yeah... any card is good btw , stonehill defender can give you curator sometimes .. just saying :)
Primalfin Lookout is a good replacement if you dont own curator.. if you played your first coldlight yet did not draw a way to return it you can gamble for another one with that... if you do not get another coldlight you might gain something that strengthens your board a bit such as a warleader.. yet you hardly will have a truely dominant board to keep any buffs alternatively any card that draws you cards
The more reactive your deck is, the painful a mill matchup will be. If you can put up some early aggression with your deck, then there is no point in coceiding; the mill rogue can fizzle and not draw the coldlights in time.
A9OOlbGorrila Prince 2 is very good in buffadin and zoo. Prince 3 is probably going to a be a key card Ina future combo deck. All 3 princes aren't bad.
Carlos Díez Mill Rogue is a deck that doesn't rely on bullshit RNG cards like glyph and doesn't constantly freeze the board every turn. It has a very high skill ceiling and you can't afford making any small mistake with this deck. On top of that, it's super fun and rewarding to successfully mill your opponent to death by calculating the damage you need while exodia mage doesn't care how much HP you have, you're just dead.
Your bias is clearly showing right now. Not that exodia mage is a fun deck to play against but really, Mill Rogue isnt fun to play against either. In fact if you'd go to MTG being a mill player would put you on a similar pedestal as exodia mage.
Julius V Sure, my bias may be speaking, I admit that. But mill rogue feels a lot more fair than having lethal on board for 4+ turns and just not being able to kill your opponent. Also, MTG and Hearthstone are very different communities and games, I don't feel it's fair to compare a deck-archetype between the two like that.
Except that Vanish is basically equal to Blizzard in what it does for Millrogue and mage decks, stall for one turn. The only difference between Rogue and Mage in the ability to stalls is that Rogue doesn't have another AoE sap. Like an imaginative 4 mana Blinding powder "Deal 1 to all undamaged minions, if they survive return them to their owners hand." (However, Vanish can situationally be stronger than Blizzard because in few cases will a player have enough mana to replay their entire board. It only gets to a struggling point when strong battlecries have been vanished.) Well, that and Rogue doesn't have an iceblock they can sit behind to protect themself. Bottomline is that Millrogue is marginally more fair than Quest Mage or Freeze Mage, both of which can easily spend up to 4 turns of stalling minions on board, while Rogue can stall for only 2 with Vanish (though if the Rogue then plays a Doomsayer on an empty board they also have the option of stalling for four turns in total.). But that said, Mill Rogue is still not the most fair or fun deck to play against.
Why do youtubers that play mill druid only post replays against druid. Druid is the easiest deck for mill rogue because they draw their entire deck with UI and nourishes very quick. Then right after that you just skulking giest and win. I'd appreciate some variety.
if you pay attention to the video, the first druid draw three cards by himself, and savj doesn't play the gheist. the second druid is an aggro tard, that drawed 0 cards. those were two very unfavorable situations, yet savj made a win. quality content imo :)
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Mill Rogue in standard in 2k17. I love you man!!!
Anime Crazy It reminded me why I subbed to Savjz two years ago.
REALwoombath for real, used to love his mill decks back in the day
Thijs did it first... im a big fan of both but.... in this case Thijs win xd
Technically I did it first but I'm not a streamer and I don't make videos so nobody believes me. Savj representin Mammoth Standard Mill Rogue pretty well, mad respect.
Doesn't matter who did it first, savjz does it better. Man is the face of mill rogue
his chaotic clicking in random places makes me so agressive
I'm a simple man. I see mill rouge and I click.
XD
marcus clemons We heard that one
i see mill rogue and i dislike
One Rogue to mill them all.
11:47 Dörty sounds
11:50 you're welcome
lol
Feels good man to see jade get rekt by mill rogue
Played some mill at legend the last few days. Pretty inconsistent, but it does destroy Jade Druid and living mana if you have the vanish ready although here I don't think that Druid understood how living mana worked with vanish. Should have started playing them and probably still wins.
Poor Crypt Lord, he just wants to be played.
so dörty! i faced one today with lich jaina, it was gg when first coldblight came out and ate my queen
It's a Millacle!
So you're the reason im facing mill rouges as QUEST MAGE.
Just fought a mill Rogue as control Mage, actually. I played Marin the Fox into Tiara, into double Deathwings. I think he just gave up after that...
Always love to see Savjz's Mill deck.
Valeera is the only new card? Since violet ilusionest does same as the blade...
Thanks you for the mill rogue AND for crushing druids. Thank you Savjz!!!
is there anyway to win with this deck is youre playing against priest and he uses that legendary that steals ur whole deck?
Adam no, but you are playing rank 25 and cant lose stars anyway if your opponent plays that card
is this deck viable to climb to legend with it ?
Amazing deck, love beating up on the Jades with this.
Hey I stared to play hearthstone a week ago, because of that i down now much about decks. so i want to ask ,is the goal of this deck that the enemy dies by drawing cards like you did in this fight ?
Sorry for mistakes in this Text im from germany and not from england ^^
yea, "milling" means making your opponents lose vital cards by overdrawing and/or killing them with fatigue damage.
Yep, a lot of slower decks keep fatigue in mind as an alternate win condition but druid and rogue in particular have several tools that make it quite viable to just plan around doing this every game. Even better, since most decks run some form of card draw on their own and mill decks aren't particularly common you have the advantage of your opponent often helping you at first by running through their deck more quickly.
It's a risky strategy (giving your enemy lots of things that they want to use to kill you can obviously backfire) but it's a fun change from the usual ways of winning.
Luis Wagener Quick lesson about decks:
Control: slow high value decks which play to the end and beat the opponent there.
Combo: beat the opponent in a single turn with a combo of cards.
Aggro: beat the opponent before they have to time to set up
Midrange: beat opponent in the middle of the game.
Mill: beat the opponent by making them draw into fatigue.
Why play the weapon instead of the 4/3, though? The extra 3 damage?
Debries that and also it's just better, imagine swamp king dred or potion of polymorph
@Savjz hey! What can i use instead of ooze and valanaar ? I dont have them yet
Roberto Davide Giorgi second tar creeper is fine instead of prince
What can I use if I dont have the prince?
Let Me tell you a story:
ME AT 1 AM
"Lets open a good ol' Gods pack"
First card-Legendary
Me:"Holy shit a legendary"
It was Anomalus....😤🔫
lol, i am gonna go buy a old gods pack now, because you said that :D
David Hanes lol that card has literally made me lose when I RNG summon ut
ive once evolved a brann twin emperor summon into 3 anomalus...
I played 7 games of Mill Rogue today. Only played 1 Coldlight. Why is RNG never on my side when I play Mill?
King Kalevi 1 total? You played it and bounced back all but 1 time? That's insane luck.
damn, 1st game was insane. good job
My dude, can you start including deck copy codes in the video description?
How do i substitute 2 shadowcasters? (If i can)
Antostar ty the 5/4 bounce panda
John McDonald ok thanks
Ancient Brewmaster*
When I see "dörty" in the comments, I give the thumbs up immediately. Because it's dörty. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
what can be played instead of valamar ?
ioprocessing i put another tard creeper
What can I replace Valanar and Valeera with ?
Ya i have a budget vision of this deck but you can run chill wind yeti instead and I find it really fills you your curve
hey dude! what could i use instead of the curator!
curator is there only for one purpose - drawing coldlight oracle
so you might replace it with .... anything , because nothing else would guarantee you an oracle draw
so yeah... any card is good
btw , stonehill defender can give you curator sometimes .. just saying :)
Primalfin Lookout is a good replacement if you dont own curator.. if you played your first coldlight yet did not draw a way to return it you can gamble for another one with that... if you do not get another coldlight you might gain something that strengthens your board a bit such as a warleader.. yet you hardly will have a truely dominant board to keep any buffs
alternatively any card that draws you cards
savjz playing mill pog
Does anyone know the ending song?
where is Savjz from?
Finland.
How do you play correctly against mill rogue?
empty your hand as fast as possible
DS Foodtime So when you play handlock or big priest or Highlander priest I just concede?
The more reactive your deck is, the painful a mill matchup will be. If you can put up some early aggression with your deck, then there is no point in coceiding; the mill rogue can fizzle and not draw the coldlights in time.
Haha mill rogue.. you screwed that aggro druid.. he just had a hand of 2/2's for 2.. and no mana crystals.. haha! Love it!
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wait i dont have to feel bad about pulling prince 4? awesome now i only have to feel bad about pulling princes 2 and 3 lol
you can play kiblers hand buff pally to not fell bad about prince 2 :D
A9OOlbGorrila prince 2 fits well into zoo lock and buffadin
A9OOlbGorrila Prince 2 is very good in buffadin and zoo. Prince 3 is probably going to a be a key card Ina future combo deck. All 3 princes aren't bad.
only deck that has prince 4 is this lmao
Prince 4 is also used in Miracle as a sub for Sherazin
OMG this deck is so sweet, love man
Shadowblade: 30/1 weapon for 3 mana
The outro sounds weird without the hero exploding sound lol
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I spammed "rogue mill pls" too much, thanks god for playing it
Having sex is good. But have you watched a Jade Druid getting destroyed, tho?
no1 trying warrior mill with the new card dead hand or something?
The annoying cardplay sound in the second game tho
Savjz best player ever :)
holy shit that sound of card flying is annoying 12:14
Dörty whöre rögue
10:23 LOL
Dude just play wild
Genio!!
11:47 it is a NFSW guys
That Fucking mouse click
Does this guy loose sometimes ?
Mill is back!!! Kreygasm
DansGame
justice is my city
I got rekt by a mill rouge on rank 19 while watching this video :l
feels bad man
man he got a card for every situation... how?
Hearthstone
I savij you!
change the volume for winning the game, nice strat' bro!
#Savjzisthebest
Im disenchant prince valanar 10 min ago... Now im so sad((
М. М. F
saronite chain gang replaces it fine, since it also sinergises with vanish
YES!
Nice!
he's so handsome
hey its mkrs deck ! :D
Bro, Geist just shows how blizzard is unable to solve problems in hearthstone.
Kimi Raikkonnen no geist is incredibly good card design
99joery lmao true
Need more
Thijs maed dis before
muy buena
#YnoGamescomSavjzBabyRage
Me likey mill rogue
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MILL EZ ROGUE EZ WIN EZ
Swaggos Gaming it seemed quite hard actually
Mkrr3's mill rogue is better imho
moaar pls :)
arcan giants for secound win condition
it´s not, i built a deck like this, you win more game with giants than without
Rank 15?
5, im sorry for you if you dont understand the value with giants valeera and vanish. "wasting" 2 slots for giants is definitely worth it.
No need to be triggered, I was just enjoying your comment.
Guys, like him might just grind with jade druid.
No Views wtf :O
Loke Sundberg Same for me though, so not quite accurate ;)
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no nut pagle?
People hate exodia mage but love mill rogue? How the heck
Carlos Díez Mill Rogue is a deck that doesn't rely on bullshit RNG cards like glyph and doesn't constantly freeze the board every turn. It has a very high skill ceiling and you can't afford making any small mistake with this deck. On top of that, it's super fun and rewarding to successfully mill your opponent to death by calculating the damage you need while exodia mage doesn't care how much HP you have, you're just dead.
Your bias is clearly showing right now. Not that exodia mage is a fun deck to play against but really, Mill Rogue isnt fun to play against either. In fact if you'd go to MTG being a mill player would put you on a similar pedestal as exodia mage.
Julius V Sure, my bias may be speaking, I admit that. But mill rogue feels a lot more fair than having lethal on board for 4+ turns and just not being able to kill your opponent. Also, MTG and Hearthstone are very different communities and games, I don't feel it's fair to compare a deck-archetype between the two like that.
Except that Vanish is basically equal to Blizzard in what it does for Millrogue and mage decks, stall for one turn. The only difference between Rogue and Mage in the ability to stalls is that Rogue doesn't have another AoE sap. Like an imaginative 4 mana Blinding powder "Deal 1 to all undamaged minions, if they survive return them to their owners hand." (However, Vanish can situationally be stronger than Blizzard because in few cases will a player have enough mana to replay their entire board. It only gets to a struggling point when strong battlecries have been vanished.)
Well, that and Rogue doesn't have an iceblock they can sit behind to protect themself.
Bottomline is that Millrogue is marginally more fair than Quest Mage or Freeze Mage, both of which can easily spend up to 4 turns of stalling minions on board, while Rogue can stall for only 2 with Vanish (though if the Rogue then plays a Doomsayer on an empty board they also have the option of stalling for four turns in total.). But that said, Mill Rogue is still not the most fair or fun deck to play against.
I dislike exodia mage, but HATE mill rouge. Something about watching my cards burn really bothers me
Nice Deck, if you´re a streamer and everything is rigged in your favour and you play on legend where somehow everyone plays like a moron
This deck is funny but its too bad against aggressive decks
akappa 47 not many of those on the ladder right now
Too lazy to post the deck
Well, Jade is unfair too, but please don't call this kind of game easy! Overdrawing is a Pussy Tactic and says that you have no special skill!!!
First dislike
Cringe jjjjjjjjjjj sound 😣
Why do youtubers that play mill druid only post replays against druid. Druid is the easiest deck for mill rogue because they draw their entire deck with UI and nourishes very quick. Then right after that you just skulking giest and win. I'd appreciate some variety.
There is some shit going on how jade druid is broken in every way possible so its amusing for a lot of ppl.
B.M.D druid is kind of the only class in hearthstone right now, so uh, yeah theres that
if you pay attention to the video, the first druid draw three cards by himself, and savj doesn't play the gheist. the second druid is an aggro tard, that drawed 0 cards. those were two very unfavorable situations, yet savj made a win. quality content imo :)
Probably because most of the games are against druid.
Wake up! Druids are everywhere xD
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