That is a beautiful and amazing bow Andreas. Utterly fabulous as was the test. It is so useful to know what different energies do. I released an odd film a few days ago where I fitted rockets to arrows, generated a few more Joules than this but with smaller heads and still they struggled to get though and do damage. This is a great film
@@TanGuV123 From what I know crossbow limbs made of horn and sinew are more efficient than the ones made of steel because by being lighter they spring back faster.
Amazing test. It really goes to show how much energy and momentum arrows/bolts require to have a chance of penetrating good plate. But no doubt some plate armour would be worse than this and the results under those circumstances would be different. Thank you for doing this test. It is very informative.
for a good breast plate or helmet perhaps, but limb and shoulder plates were by default thinner and thus required much less to penetrate, It's just like the Modern battle tank where the front armor is the toughest while the top, sides and rear are much less armored
I wonder if this crossbow can penetrate the 3 mm hardened breastplate from another video . That would be best armor vs best crossbow. A 3 mm plate would require almost twice the energy from the same arrow to be penetrated compared to a 2 mm because it's not a linear relation.And being hardened would raise the effectiveness by 1.5.
Die Platten sind völlig unterschiedlich da das Eisen in Rennöfen produziert wurde. Der viel zu geringe Kohlenstoffanteil machte eine übliche Härtung unmöglich. Irgendwie ist es trotzdem gelungen aber das Wissen darüber ging verloren.
@@OblivionBonessmall calibers like 22lr and birdshot would absolutely struggle against good quality hardened steel. Add in range and I think it's safe to say that maybe even 45 acp would get stopped or deflected under some circumstances. Not sure about 9mm tho.
Okay, let’s be honest: birdshot and .22? Yes. 9mm, probably not. Aquebus of the early 16 century? Absolutely not. There’s a reason why aquebus and musket replaced crossbow.
My immediate thought upon seeing this was: "I've got to know what Tod would think of this!" So great to see him at the top of the comments. This whole community of living history and experimental archeology is such a fantastic example of the finest qualities of mankind. You all (creators and fellow viewers) have my sincerest well wishes.
2:44 If the crossbow was braced against something rigid, you'd have a little more power-stroke since the crossbow recoils back before the bolt has left the string. Not sure how much of a difference it'd make, but with an already short draw, I'd expect measurable. Great stuff by the way. Very rare to see horn and sinew crossbows in action, let alone a monstrous one like that!
For reference, a 9x19mm bullet from a full size handgun will produce around 490J, so this crossbow has roughly the energy of a 9mm subcompact pistol (shorter barrel).
Excellent Video. Magnificent equipment, all quite amazing. The testing was well done, well thought out, and well explained. Thank you. Doctor George Whitehead (shooting bows for 70 Years)
Bolts not tuned to bow and flying perfectly straight and striking with all energy perfectly in line for max penetration. No..I don’t know how to fix that on this monster and I am very impressed with the video!
Yes. And the breast plate is one of the toughest parts of the full plate armour. If any knight was less lucky, the arrow would pierce both the armor and his body.
@@somerandoinaknightsarmor9938 Modern non-hardened mild steel is a good analogue in terms of strenght to the steel used for armor in the middle ages. Modern processes produce steel of much higher quality than what people were able to make in the middle ages. It is true that the very front part of the breast plate used to be thicker than in this video (2,5mm vs. 2mm) but other parts used to be significantly thinner than 2mm. As well as other parts of full plate harness. If the arrow hit any thinner part of the harness, the penetration would be severe, not just over 3cm.
Well, it still has less energy than most bullets... the momentum is very high though, so it may be right to compare it to hammer strike rather than a shot. On the other hand, the breastplate (together with the padding) will obviously distribute the shock both over the surface and the time, so it wouldn't be like a concentrated strike to one point... seems hard to tell on spot actually. Would be interesting to have some acceleration data from the target, especially from the inside. upd: actually as long as it doesn't actually reach the body to hit/wound it (and breastplate usually have some space underneath, padding included, exactly for the purpose), the fact that it penetrates the armor rather than glances/bounces off makes the hit softer overall.
Would bruises be reflected in the ballistic gel? We can't see any. Either way, if the bolts didn't cause internal injuries or bleeding, you would be just fine.
Judging from some of the comments below I think you need to find a way to measure hydrostatic shock in your gel torso. For example, it is not the schrapnel from an IED that injures but the over pressure inside the body regardless of body armour. Those arrow tips are designed to bite into the plate enough to transfer the kinetic energy of the bolt into the body of the knight.
@@henriknemeth3370 momentum - if plate stops the heavy bolt, then the wearer of the armor would partially have to absorb the momentum, which is bigger than 9x19.
Awesome video ! I just put the ballistics of this crossbow's bolts into a stopping power calculator, did you know it has 92 TKOF stopping power? That's MORE than a 12 gauge shotgun slug !!! And 5 TKOF is already enough to kill, so your crossbow is really really deadly !
I really, really doubt it would have 92 TKOF. You'd need to know the diameter of the bolts they're firing, to calculate it. What we can calculate, based on mass & velocity is the kinetic energy - at 280g, moving at 52 m/s, these bolts have roughly 380J of kinetic energy. A 70mm Foster slug has about 3200J of muzzle energy.
@@ShokkuKyushu It's sort of a measure of presumed "one shot kill" ability for a projectile. It stand's for "Taylor Knock-out Factor", but how useful it actually is as a measurement is pretty debated.
What a beast! Any chance to test it at a longer distance? I keep being amazed by the punishment these plates can endure, from your art's, Tod's or Joe Gibb's strength.
Super, dass der Kanal jetzt gerade aktiv ist. Gibt glaub ich keinen besseren zeitpunkt für Armbrustcontent als um das Release Date von KCD2 herum. Aber eine Anmerkung zum Alter: Balistae ad tornum (also große Armbruste, die eine Spannbank zum Spannen benötigen) gibt es in den Inventaren schon um 1200, lange vor den ersten Bildquellen.
Danke für die Info - das stimmt schon, die Frage ist nur wie groß diese Armbrusten tatsächlich waren bzw aussahen, denn zu dieser Zeit kam der Stegreif erst auf und die Armbrust wurde noch mit Hilfe der Arme gespannt. Für leistungsstärkere Exemplare ist aber dann jedenfalls eine Spannhilfe nötig.
Have ten of these lined up on the inner parapet when they make it through the porticulus. Also, those bolts could do with slightly wider flights, quarter to half an inch at least
Zuerst mal geiles Video. Aber dann noch eine Frage: hab ich das richtig verstanden, dass an der Stelle wo sich der obere und der untere Rüstungsteil überlappen, die gesamte Dicke 4 mm ist? Also 2 mal 2 mm?
I wonder why they designed the bolts to have such relatively wide heads. In theory, a bolt with a narrower head would penetrate much deeper. It makes me wonder if these designs were target-shooting bolts rather than war bolts. There's a channel on here of elastic crossbows that achieves impressive penetration despite very low kinetic energy, probably because of the efficient design of the bolts.
For the quality of steel they could produce at the time, I don't think they could make much narrower heads that are strong enough to maintain structural integrity
Against properly designed plate anything with a sharper point with the material of the time (mostly iron) will just have the point tip roll, and penetrate less than this. The "blunter" pyramidal cross section allows some degree of chance of the point maintaining its shape. Any and all properly laid out tests of arrows shot against moderate plate that could be expected to encounter them shows that arrows really can't make it through. Only very low quality or thin plate against very strong bows or crossbows will fail to stop the projectile.
Finer points would have trouble keeping up as far as mass goes and would be prone to rolling and generally not surviving impacts. We've seen it happen. But yeah, it seems that some better compromise could be made. Those are si wide they stick to the surface, pretty much, moving entire breastplate round.
Surprisingly low velocity, a decent recurve 60# bo an beat it. Of course bolts are very heavy but still interesting. Anyway, totally awesome test! Wonderful work with reproduction of this crossbow.
Bow this massive definitely won't be built for speed... I wonder what's the maximum velocity, but danger of dry shot is real. From what I recall even with those massive bolts it still has rather low efficiency.
@@sergeynikolaevich1750ну смотря когда, ближе к концу 15 века стали распространены, и даже наемники вполне себе могли позволить, аристократия так была защищена поголовно... На 14, первую половину 15 века - да, кирассы были еще редки и большая часть была одета в бригантины... Но во второй половине 15 века, 16 век, такие латы, и даже более совершенные, были распространены.
@@PRINCKROVI Ой это слишком оптимистично . Бриги могли позволить себе лишь удачливые мародеры , большинство серой скотинки обходились кожей и тряпкой , и , да , их никто не считал , помнится даже детей отправляли в утиль на святую землю чего уж говорить про остальное быдло ,особенно что в наглии творилось -трэш , угар и содомия .
@@eergegerg23 ну понятно, пехота от полного доспеха быстро отказалась, в нем только рыцари ходили когда спешивались, а вот панцирь(кирассу) и юбку вполне себе носили.
Armour on arms had to be thinner, since it would be difficult to fight with extra weight above 1 kg on each arm. And horse was vulnerable to shots from heavy crossbow too.
Arms armour usually was about 1 mm thick. But limbs armour has much more curved form so shot can be at angle that makes this 1 mm harder to penetrate than 2 mm at breast plate with 90 degree hit.
The vicars in my parish are all softies. I'm surprised they are used as a measurement of metallurgic temper. You'd think the scale would be enormous; one breastplate of 10,000 vicars temper = easily penetrated by a mild YT comment section abrasion.
This is difficult because the surviving originals can no longer be used. Only reconstructions can help here and provide an approximation. In any case, tests show that the maximum bolt speed is around 70 metres per second, regardless of the respective draw weight of the crossbow.
I really thought that the bolt would go all the way through, meaning it would get stuck deep in the body! But not even a scratch on the body! But I still think that a hit like that takes your breath away
I'm wondering, could a strong warbow with good bodkin arrows penetrate this armour? Because while this monster crosbow seems really strong, I don't think that it is really efficient.
No. These dull and broad heads (called Bodkin) are actually sharp and broad and exactly what was used for maximum armor Penetration abilities. 90° angles all over the place. Make it any thinner and you bend it on impact.
Really hard working test. But I believe if the bolt had a proper cut-on-contact and sharp broadhead, like VPA or Iron Will, it would slice through all that. These medieval tips are pretty dull shaped.
While the original this replica is based on wasn't used with a spanning stand, is this the kind of draw weight/energy you'd expect to see for a crossbow that could be spanned by one?
@@medievalcrossbows7621 Oh yes, like I said, I know the original doesn't have one on it, I'm just wondering if it's technically feasible to span a crossbow of that draw weight with one. I'm trying to figure out the upper limit for a hausspied/garroc as mounted on the French ships at Sluys in 1340.
If you make arrows from stronger steel, sharpen them more, make the tip more elongated, and accelerate the arrow to 70 m/s, it will pierce the body. Low speed and high mass will hit hard, but will not pass
Tolle Armbrust. Der Harnisch ist nicht zu vergleichen mit historischen Produkten weil er aus Industriestahl besteht. Kenne nur einen Beschussversuch eines russischen Soldaten. Hier wurde mit der 7.62 Tokarew Pistole mit etwa 500 joule nur eine kleine Delle erreicht .
Very interesting; that bow is a beast. I'd say our target will probably live thanks to the cuirass, but he's definitely lost all interest in the proceedings and will probably want to crawl off and be very sick somewhere nice and quiet.
Wouldnt be so sure, it has the energy of average pistol bullet, and lots of it gets spent on deforming the armor, so the "kick" to the chest felt is probably less severe than when shot with bullet proof best on.
the arrowheads used in shooting are made of modern iron, therefore much better than historical ones, but with the breastplate everything is the opposite - only the proportion of carbon is taken into account, but for armor, if they were not made in Milan or in places close to it, therefore also considered Milanese, not any iron went, but specifically "Innsbruck" - mined in the Alps. This iron was not only free from bad impurities, but immediately had alloying additives, which significantly strengthened it.
@@ShokkuKyushu I am saying that anachronisms and weak materials science are allowed in all such tests. Therefore, the shooting efficiency is overestimated - this is typical of all channels
Very slow arrow speed for that draw weight. 170 fps is a decent but not outstanding speed for a 50lb drawweight recurve bow. The weight of the bolt must be what is producing the impact.
That is a beautiful and amazing bow Andreas. Utterly fabulous as was the test. It is so useful to know what different energies do. I released an odd film a few days ago where I fitted rockets to arrows, generated a few more Joules than this but with smaller heads and still they struggled to get though and do damage. This is a great film
Would the arrows be more stable with two smaller rockets on the same plane side by side?
Thanks Tod, I'm glad you like the video!
For some reason i knew i would see a tods workshop comment
Would be great to a comparisson between this crossbow and tod's1250lbs Windlass Crossbow
@@TanGuV123 From what I know crossbow limbs made of horn and sinew are more efficient than the ones made of steel because by being lighter they spring back faster.
Plate protects well against crossbow. That isn't a crossbow, that's a monster.
Just goes to show you every Superman has his Doomsday
It's the Barrett of Medieval .50cal😊
Amazing test.
It really goes to show how much energy and momentum arrows/bolts require to have a chance of penetrating good plate.
But no doubt some plate armour would be worse than this and the results under those circumstances would be different.
Thank you for doing this test. It is very informative.
for a good breast plate or helmet perhaps, but limb and shoulder plates were by default thinner and thus required much less to penetrate, It's just like the Modern battle tank where the front armor is the toughest while the top, sides and rear are much less armored
@@aburoach9268 Agreed
I wonder if this crossbow can penetrate the 3 mm hardened breastplate from another video . That would be best armor vs best crossbow. A 3 mm plate would require almost twice the energy from the same arrow to be penetrated compared to a 2 mm because it's not a linear relation.And being hardened would raise the effectiveness by 1.5.
Die Platten sind völlig unterschiedlich da das Eisen in Rennöfen produziert wurde. Der viel zu geringe Kohlenstoffanteil machte eine übliche Härtung unmöglich. Irgendwie ist es trotzdem gelungen aber das Wissen darüber ging verloren.
Wow, what a monster. Very impressive to see it recoil and the impact in slow motion.
Whoever built that crossbow is a Master artisan😮.
Thank you ;-)
Wow, it actually happened, I always wanted to see this beast tested against plate and it was, in a proper authentic test. I am super impressed.
Amazing work. Let's not underestimate late medieval armour. It could even withstand some types of firearms.
No
@@OblivionBonessmall calibers like 22lr and birdshot would absolutely struggle against good quality hardened steel. Add in range and I think it's safe to say that maybe even 45 acp would get stopped or deflected under some circumstances. Not sure about 9mm tho.
*Some* could resist firearms.
Okay, let’s be honest: birdshot and .22? Yes. 9mm, probably not. Aquebus of the early 16 century? Absolutely not. There’s a reason why aquebus and musket replaced crossbow.
Small caliber rounds, sure.
You'd be hard pressed to find any armor that could withstand 9mil or greater.
This was a great test, it cannot be overstated how amazing it is to see this accuracy in materials and construction for this test.
My immediate thought upon seeing this was: "I've got to know what Tod would think of this!" So great to see him at the top of the comments. This whole community of living history and experimental archeology is such a fantastic example of the finest qualities of mankind.
You all (creators and fellow viewers) have my sincerest well wishes.
2:44 If the crossbow was braced against something rigid, you'd have a little more power-stroke since the crossbow recoils back before the bolt has left the string. Not sure how much of a difference it'd make, but with an already short draw, I'd expect measurable.
Great stuff by the way. Very rare to see horn and sinew crossbows in action, let alone a monstrous one like that!
For reference, a 9x19mm bullet from a full size handgun will produce around 490J, so this crossbow has roughly the energy of a 9mm subcompact pistol (shorter barrel).
A great video that closes the "bolt vs. armor" theme, in my opinion. Thanks!
Excellent Video. Magnificent equipment, all quite amazing. The testing was well done, well thought out, and well explained. Thank you. Doctor George Whitehead (shooting bows for 70 Years)
On the breastplate.. well it would hurt badly. But doesn't look leathal. Awesome vid man
yeah that second one looks like it'd hurt a ton from sheer kinetic energy
This isn’t a great crossbow, it’s a small ballista…🤔🙂But boy, it’s beautiful and impressive!
Sehr gut. Vielen dank!
Danke für das Lob!
Beautiful job Andreas! very well documented.
Thank you!!
Very Impressive and again proves having a good breastplate is extremely useful as most dont get hit by a stonking big crossbow
Awesome video, thank you so much, amazing reference for writers, game developers, designers, etc! awesome work
Those are some sturdy shafts. I'm surprised none of them splintered.
Bolts not tuned to bow and flying perfectly straight and striking with all energy perfectly in line for max penetration. No..I don’t know how to fix that on this monster and I am very impressed with the video!
Another excellent test video Andreas, much appreciated.
incredible. Even with all that power it still can't get through the armor enough to pierce organs. But i bet the impact with hurt like hell.
Yes. And the breast plate is one of the toughest parts of the full plate armour. If any knight was less lucky, the arrow would pierce both the armor and his body.
Keep in mind the armor in the video wasnt even hardened and it held up that well!
@@somerandoinaknightsarmor9938 Modern non-hardened mild steel is a good analogue in terms of strenght to the steel used for armor in the middle ages. Modern processes produce steel of much higher quality than what people were able to make in the middle ages.
It is true that the very front part of the breast plate used to be thicker than in this video (2,5mm vs. 2mm) but other parts used to be significantly thinner than 2mm. As well as other parts of full plate harness. If the arrow hit any thinner part of the harness, the penetration would be severe, not just over 3cm.
Well, it still has less energy than most bullets... the momentum is very high though, so it may be right to compare it to hammer strike rather than a shot. On the other hand, the breastplate (together with the padding) will obviously distribute the shock both over the surface and the time, so it wouldn't be like a concentrated strike to one point... seems hard to tell on spot actually. Would be interesting to have some acceleration data from the target, especially from the inside.
upd: actually as long as it doesn't actually reach the body to hit/wound it (and breastplate usually have some space underneath, padding included, exactly for the purpose), the fact that it penetrates the armor rather than glances/bounces off makes the hit softer overall.
Would bruises be reflected in the ballistic gel? We can't see any. Either way, if the bolts didn't cause internal injuries or bleeding, you would be just fine.
If I'm not mistaken I believe this is the most powerful crossbow ever built at least to be successfully replicated.
Judging from some of the comments below I think you need to find a way to measure hydrostatic shock in your gel torso. For example, it is not the schrapnel from an IED that injures but the over pressure inside the body regardless of body armour. Those arrow tips are designed to bite into the plate enough to transfer the kinetic energy of the bolt into the body of the knight.
The kinetic energy of the bolt is less than that of a 9x19.
@@henriknemeth3370 momentum - if plate stops the heavy bolt, then the wearer of the armor would partially have to absorb the momentum, which is bigger than 9x19.
This isn't a crossbow anymore, this is a full-on handheld ballista!
Maybe waxxing the Bolts would made the Bolts more efective?
Quite the glorious crossbow. Thank you for doing the demonstration.
Awesome video ! I just put the ballistics of this crossbow's bolts into a stopping power calculator, did you know it has 92 TKOF stopping power? That's MORE than a 12 gauge shotgun slug !!! And 5 TKOF is already enough to kill, so your crossbow is really really deadly !
I really, really doubt it would have 92 TKOF. You'd need to know the diameter of the bolts they're firing, to calculate it. What we can calculate, based on mass & velocity is the kinetic energy - at 280g, moving at 52 m/s, these bolts have roughly 380J of kinetic energy. A 70mm Foster slug has about 3200J of muzzle energy.
@@Soren015 The diameter of the bolts is said at 4:27... I used "22mm" in the calculator.
Pardon ,what is a TKOF?
@@ShokkuKyushu It's sort of a measure of presumed "one shot kill" ability for a projectile. It stand's for "Taylor Knock-out Factor", but how useful it actually is as a measurement is pretty debated.
@@Soren015 Ah,ok
What a beast! Any chance to test it at a longer distance? I keep being amazed by the punishment these plates can endure, from your art's, Tod's or Joe Gibb's strength.
Super, dass der Kanal jetzt gerade aktiv ist. Gibt glaub ich keinen besseren zeitpunkt für Armbrustcontent als um das Release Date von KCD2 herum.
Aber eine Anmerkung zum Alter: Balistae ad tornum (also große Armbruste, die eine Spannbank zum Spannen benötigen) gibt es in den Inventaren schon um 1200, lange vor den ersten Bildquellen.
Danke für die Info - das stimmt schon, die Frage ist nur wie groß diese Armbrusten tatsächlich waren bzw aussahen, denn zu dieser Zeit kam der Stegreif erst auf und die Armbrust wurde noch mit Hilfe der Arme gespannt. Für leistungsstärkere Exemplare ist aber dann jedenfalls eine Spannhilfe nötig.
Übrigens... Absolut schönes Trefferbild!
Danke dir!
I’m wondering what those internal injuries would have been. That’s quite an impact from those bolts.
It is, however, spread out over the entire torso by the plate and the padded jerkin.
😳 Jesus, to see a bolt that thick oscillating like that, damn.
That thing is like a portable ballista
Excellent video. Thank you for posting.
Was für ein absolutes Monstrum von einer Armbrust 😮
Have ten of these lined up on the inner parapet when they make it through the porticulus.
Also, those bolts could do with slightly wider flights, quarter to half an inch at least
Zuerst mal geiles Video.
Aber dann noch eine Frage: hab ich das richtig verstanden, dass an der Stelle wo sich der obere und der untere Rüstungsteil überlappen, die gesamte Dicke 4 mm ist? Also 2 mal 2 mm?
Genau - die Platte ist "geschoben" (beweglich) und im überlappenden Bereich sind es 4mm
Great video!
Very jinteresting test! Thank you ❤
Would this be considered a crossbow? Seems more like a ballista. This is an interesting overlap between manpad, and siege weapon
how would that perform from max range then ? Not penetrate at all and just bounce off ?
EPIC video, this is history youtube history
I wonder why they designed the bolts to have such relatively wide heads. In theory, a bolt with a narrower head would penetrate much deeper. It makes me wonder if these designs were target-shooting bolts rather than war bolts. There's a channel on here of elastic crossbows that achieves impressive penetration despite very low kinetic energy, probably because of the efficient design of the bolts.
For the quality of steel they could produce at the time, I don't think they could make much narrower heads that are strong enough to maintain structural integrity
Against properly designed plate anything with a sharper point with the material of the time (mostly iron) will just have the point tip roll, and penetrate less than this. The "blunter" pyramidal cross section allows some degree of chance of the point maintaining its shape. Any and all properly laid out tests of arrows shot against moderate plate that could be expected to encounter them shows that arrows really can't make it through. Only very low quality or thin plate against very strong bows or crossbows will fail to stop the projectile.
Historians only have the remains of history, we do not know all types of arrowheads, we only know those that have reached us
Finer points would have trouble keeping up as far as mass goes and would be prone to rolling and generally not surviving impacts. We've seen it happen. But yeah, it seems that some better compromise could be made. Those are si wide they stick to the surface, pretty much, moving entire breastplate round.
Same principle as trying to use a woodworking chisel on steel
Sehr interessante und schön gearbeitete Armbrust samt Bolzen. Ich hätte eine deutlich höhere Durchschlagskraft erwartet.
Would be cool to see this compared to a modern crossbow (they do say that speed is what defeats armour)
Surprisingly low velocity, a decent recurve 60# bo an beat it. Of course bolts are very heavy but still interesting. Anyway, totally awesome test! Wonderful work with reproduction of this crossbow.
Bow this massive definitely won't be built for speed... I wonder what's the maximum velocity, but danger of dry shot is real. From what I recall even with those massive bolts it still has rather low efficiency.
heavy bolt produces strong momentum that gets transfered, something like getting hammered.
The prod of this crosbow Is only horn and sinew with out wood?
Thank you .
Guido
jep- 67 stripes of buffalo horn and approx 800 g sinews.
sensationell!!!!!!!!!! Vielen Dank.
Здорово! Спасибо за видео. Значит средневековые танки были практически неуязвимы в своём железе.
Такое железо могли себе позволить не только лишь все , мало кто мог это сделать .
@@sergeynikolaevich1750ну смотря когда, ближе к концу 15 века стали распространены, и даже наемники вполне себе могли позволить, аристократия так была защищена поголовно...
На 14, первую половину 15 века - да, кирассы были еще редки и большая часть была одета в бригантины...
Но во второй половине 15 века, 16 век, такие латы, и даже более совершенные, были распространены.
@@PRINCKROVI Ой это слишком оптимистично . Бриги могли позволить себе лишь удачливые мародеры , большинство серой скотинки обходились кожей и тряпкой , и , да , их никто не считал , помнится даже детей отправляли в утиль на святую землю чего уж говорить про остальное быдло ,особенно что в наглии творилось -трэш , угар и содомия .
@@PRINCKROVI у тех же швейцарцев во второй половине 15 века полудоспех был весьма распространен (а ветераны из первых рядов иногда и 3/4 имели).
@@eergegerg23 ну понятно, пехота от полного доспеха быстро отказалась, в нем только рыцари ходили когда спешивались, а вот панцирь(кирассу) и юбку вполне себе носили.
Sehr interessant! Danke für das Video!
Armour on arms had to be thinner, since it would be difficult to fight with extra weight above 1 kg on each arm. And horse was vulnerable to shots from heavy crossbow too.
Arms armour usually was about 1 mm thick. But limbs armour has much more curved form so shot can be at angle that makes this 1 mm harder to penetrate than 2 mm at breast plate with 90 degree hit.
Great video. What is the powerstroke and draw length of the crossbow?
The distance between the bow to the nut is 46cm, the powerstroke is approx 33cm
@@medievalcrossbows7621 Thank you very much!
380 J is pretty impressive for a medieval crossbow considering a 9mm round does about 500 j.
Respekt! Schöne Armbrust und top Video!
Vielen Dank!
may we know the powerstroke?
Just curious, does the armor provide double protection at the belly, do the plates overlap significantly in that area?
only a few centimetres but I don't think the bolts will get through 4mm
The vicars in my parish are all softies. I'm surprised they are used as a measurement of metallurgic temper. You'd think the scale would be enormous; one breastplate of 10,000 vicars temper = easily penetrated by a mild YT comment section abrasion.
WOW! HUGE! does this prove you need to be a monster and no little guy has a hope?
Is there a way to convert the poundage of an old traditional crossbow to that of a modern one.
This is difficult because the surviving originals can no longer be used. Only reconstructions can help here and provide an approximation. In any case, tests show that the maximum bolt speed is around 70 metres per second, regardless of the respective draw weight of the crossbow.
@@medievalcrossbows7621 yeah, confirmed what i was thinking thanks
In conclusion, with full plate armor you might survive a hit, but you’ll wish you hadn’t
Idk much about bolts, but aren't the tips flat?
the shape corresponds to that of the preserved originals
I really thought that the bolt would go all the way through, meaning it would get stuck deep in the body! But not even a scratch on the body! But I still think that a hit like that takes your breath away
I'm wondering, could a strong warbow with good bodkin arrows penetrate this armour? Because while this monster crosbow seems really strong, I don't think that it is really efficient.
If you want efficient one, look at Chinese Crossbow that basically got 200lb draw weight, drawn into 20 inch.
It has 3 times the energy of a strong bow.
I recommend to watch Tod's Workshop YT channel, he have entire series of warbow vs plate armour.
The bolts look dull and broad. Would a seeker version do better?
No. These dull and broad heads (called Bodkin) are actually sharp and broad and exactly what was used for maximum armor Penetration abilities. 90° angles all over the place. Make it any thinner and you bend it on impact.
Sir, I think you can go ahead and call this a mini ballista
Hello
Where can i buy this crossbow?
Really hard working test. But I believe if the bolt had a proper cut-on-contact and sharp broadhead, like VPA or Iron Will, it would slice through all that. These medieval tips are pretty dull shaped.
A thin & narrow wraught iron needle point will roll against armor
While the original this replica is based on wasn't used with a spanning stand, is this the kind of draw weight/energy you'd expect to see for a crossbow that could be spanned by one?
For this crossbow, you need a spanning bench or lage windlass like here in the video ruclips.net/video/JVVFp9t8Rk4/видео.html
@@medievalcrossbows7621 So not even a spanning stand like the one in the Löffelholtz Codex?
@@Cahirable Maybe a big spanning stand would work but all pictures I know show crossbows with stirrups and the great crossbow doesn't have them....
@@medievalcrossbows7621 Oh yes, like I said, I know the original doesn't have one on it, I'm just wondering if it's technically feasible to span a crossbow of that draw weight with one. I'm trying to figure out the upper limit for a hausspied/garroc as mounted on the French ships at Sluys in 1340.
@@Cahirable I understand - a very interesting question. I also own a spanning stand but have only used it to span light crossbows so far....
If you make arrows from stronger steel, sharpen them more, make the tip more elongated, and accelerate the arrow to 70 m/s, it will pierce the body. Low speed and high mass will hit hard, but will not pass
Need a test against popular pistol calibers.
Tolle Armbrust. Der Harnisch ist nicht zu vergleichen mit historischen Produkten weil er aus Industriestahl besteht. Kenne nur einen Beschussversuch eines russischen Soldaten.
Hier wurde mit der 7.62 Tokarew Pistole mit etwa 500 joule nur eine kleine Delle erreicht .
What would the felt trauma be at ?
can you make a repeating crossbow?
You play too many silly fantasy games... lol
I guess, even if it doesn't penetrate, transfer of force from the bolt already enough to cause a major "Oof" & internal bleeding
Are the tips of the bolts waxed?
No
Не просто кроссбоу, а кроссбоуище!
Try it with a hardened bodkin point, I wanna see that👍🏻
289 ftlbs is on a par with a 9 mm
I have one question - how often such monsters was used?
Great crossbows can be found in many medieval inventories - I think every large castle or town had some.
@@medievalcrossbows7621 but did great crossbows used in the fields en masse, or it was siege weapon?
@@PyromaN93 a siege weapon
@@medievalcrossbows7621 thanks👋
Like a Roman scorpion?
I Know armor is effective of Course. But with that monster crossbow inhalf expected the bolt to get half way through
Very interesting; that bow is a beast. I'd say our target will probably live thanks to the cuirass, but he's definitely lost all interest in the proceedings and will probably want to crawl off and be very sick somewhere nice and quiet.
Wouldnt be so sure, it has the energy of average pistol bullet, and lots of it gets spent on deforming the armor, so the "kick" to the chest felt is probably less severe than when shot with bullet proof best on.
While the armour has saved in wearers life theres now rethinking there life choices.
the arrowheads used in shooting are made of modern iron, therefore much better than historical ones, but with the breastplate everything is the opposite - only the proportion of carbon is taken into account, but for armor, if they were not made in Milan or in places close to it, therefore also considered Milanese, not any iron went, but specifically "Innsbruck" - mined in the Alps. This iron was not only free from bad impurities, but immediately had alloying additives, which significantly strengthened it.
Basically best crossbow vs mid armor. Still one of the few videos on RUclips about this topic.
@@ShokkuKyushu I am saying that anachronisms and weak materials science are allowed in all such tests. Therefore, the shooting efficiency is overestimated - this is typical of all channels
Forget the penetration, the impact itself would you put you out of the fight even if it doesn't kill you.
Those bolts would seriously ruin your day.
Hey nice work, subbed!
Very nice
CROSSBOWS!!!
Imagine getting shot in the head with this, it would only need a shallow punch in the helmet to get a grip and transfer all of the force.
It would knock you off your feet for sure
...And your neck probably wouldn't be too happy either...
Headshots seems to cause erections among americans?
@@datadavis or elections 😜
@@andrewallason4530 ooouffff😶🌫🤭🤭
Da steckt einiges an WUMMS dahinter
Probably wouldn't kill him, but damn is that disrespectful
Those hits would break bone, even if you did not eventually die, you would be out of the fight.
Very slow arrow speed for that draw weight. 170 fps is a decent but not outstanding speed for a 50lb drawweight recurve bow. The weight of the bolt must be what is producing the impact.
That crossbow should shooting heavier projectiles
That is alot of damage. sadly medieval flextape is not existent
Super!
I wonder how much penetration a heavy full steel/iron bolt could manage?
That is not anti human, thats anti material
2:38 for people who don't want to be teased by the cold opening.