This is an awesome patchbay (especially due to the the multi-unit setup capability). Any time technology can be used to make my job smoother and more productive, I'm all for it.
I am so in!!!! Ordering one tomorrow I better do a count out because I want to include all of my synths, audio interfaces, preamps, compressors, etc.!!
the software is buggy. And not worth the money. I own two units. The sound is excellent, but the Patch app is annoying. I hope they give it to a different developer and make it normal.
really cool idea! so many cool inovations coming out this year after feeling like the music industry was a bit stagnent and so far behind where every other industries technology was.
This is amazing!!!! I want one so bad!! First i have to have some outboard gear to use with it, but its definitely being added to my wishlist. 😁🤘. NVM. I just saw its price. I wish i could afford one. Lol. Still an amazing product and idea!!!
Would love to have something like this as a companion to my Octatrack if it was affordable .. Having a dozen of hardware synths, + iOS and Desktop source, to be able to instantly route what I need to work with would be a dream. I dare not look at the price though; so an inexpensive old school patch bay is probably in my immediate future.
im pretty sure its just a routing matrix and doesn't have anything to do with a DAW. you'd connect it do your computer but route your signal out to your interface via the DSUB in the back. just like an "old school" patchybay,
This thing is VERY simple with even more simple soft and costs like hi-end interfaces. 2750$? Come on it is just patch bay! I will do it by myself and save 2500$ for a real gear!
Stupid logic. Its not simple, its simple to USE. This is because all the hard work is being done behind the app and on the hardware... so you don't have to think to hard with your little brain.
Good concept...but the prices are absolutely ridiculous for a digitally controlled router... Maybe $399...but not upwards of $2000 or more for it... The greed is a total turn-off...
I came across a project that would do something similar and just of relays you'd pay 166USD... I repeat.. Just of relays... And this product is not using relays but new patented chips... + phantom, +phantom warning, power supply, quality control, software development, website.. and who knows what to keep everything going... You know nothing John Snow...
This is the same thing that SSL did with the Xpatch years ago and it failed. How is this different? The problem with this unit (and others of this type) that regular patch bays will always have over it, is that there's no easy way to add more patch bays for more equipment. This thing is great for home hobbyists, who appears to be the people who love it, because they just have a handful of pieces of gear, especially expensive ones. Or a mastering engineer who has one path but a lot of pieces of gear to move around. But once you get to a pro mixing studio, with racks of high end gear, how do you keep adding flocks without eating up in/outs on each? It's super easy with patch bays to just patch from one bay to another with another TT cable. Maybe one day they'll figure out how to send audio from one bay to another in an efficient manner, but at the moment this is just an expensive toy for home hobbyists.
Eff, your comment really intrigued me, so I did a search of my own to see what came up in regards to your proposed issues. I found that Flock provides an easily readable "multi-unit guide"* on the front page of their support section (www.flockaudio.com/support) -> (ca85e3d3-4a3f-49ef-ab63-58c17d8e3914.filesusr.com/ugd/4d2b38_ba77e36558624122a58d215416eab776.pdf) In regard to eating up I/O, this product seems to offer no true difference in multi-bay patching when compared to the standard format bay. Credit where credit is due though, Flock really has done a commendable job in allowing you to create a 90% ITB cable flow that once in place you'll never have to touch again until one of the DB-25 cables ages out, all while letting you create wonderfully customizable patch flows without having to plug and play with physical cables (which, as with most things, would wear out faster the more they are used). Now, I'm sure that we can agree that what does make patch bays of this type more difficult to work with is the annoying lightness you'll feel in your wallet shortly after purchase, however there in lies the old capitalism standby of "you get what you pay for" I will agree with you that while SSL had a great idea with the Xpatch, the implementation process could prove to be rougher than desired. However, on the surface, Flock seems to have made a comparable improvement, only time and hands-on interaction will tell if theirs is truly a better system. *EDIT: originally I had written "multi-unit example", but "guide" is the word choice that is actually used on the site [11/08/2019]
@@ThatGuy-ru8ms They also just released a 96 Point Patch X unit that is amazing. Anyone building a pro studio would reap the benefits of this, the recall, and rerouting possibilities alone are such time savers, anyone running a studio business would clearly see the the advantages.
This is an awesome patchbay (especially due to the the multi-unit setup capability). Any time technology can be used to make my job smoother and more productive, I'm all for it.
I am so in!!!! Ordering one tomorrow I better do a count out because I want to include all of my synths, audio interfaces, preamps, compressors, etc.!!
Such a great addition to any studio with outboard gear
the software is buggy. And not worth the money. I own two units. The sound is excellent, but the Patch app is annoying. I hope they give it to a different developer and make it normal.
What software version are you on?
@@ezstproductions_ 3.0.2
really cool idea! so many cool inovations coming out this year after feeling like the music industry was a bit stagnent and so far behind where every other industries technology was.
I’ve been waiting for some gear like this to come into my life
I've always dreamed of something like this
This is going right next to my Dangerous Liaison
I love not having to get up off my butt. This is perfect.
😂
Until you see the price on them... 😂
@@ShaighJosephson hehehe
Thats what interns are for! ;)
@@weschilton hehehe
i've been seeing this on instagram for months now
This is amazing!!!! I want one so bad!! First i have to have some outboard gear to use with it, but its definitely being added to my wishlist. 😁🤘. NVM. I just saw its price. I wish i could afford one. Lol. Still an amazing product and idea!!!
use this for a dream pedal rig
genoius
Would love to have something like this as a companion to my Octatrack if it was affordable .. Having a dozen of hardware synths, + iOS and Desktop source, to be able to instantly route what I need to work with would be a dream. I dare not look at the price though; so an inexpensive old school patch bay is probably in my immediate future.
omg this is sick. jUST THE PRICE THOUGH.
So how do you get this to work in the DAW that's the real question
im pretty sure its just a routing matrix and doesn't have anything to do with a DAW. you'd connect it do your computer but route your signal out to your interface via the DSUB in the back. just like an "old school" patchybay,
Once I eventually get up to $50K worth of outboard gear. Sure, What's another few thousand....
And then the future was here.
😃
This thing is VERY simple with even more simple soft and costs like hi-end interfaces. 2750$? Come on it is just patch bay! I will do it by myself and save 2500$ for a real gear!
No you won't. Do some research.
Stupid logic. Its not simple, its simple to USE. This is because all the hard work is being done behind the app and on the hardware... so you don't have to think to hard with your little brain.
Good concept...but the prices are absolutely ridiculous for a digitally controlled router... Maybe $399...but not upwards of $2000 or more for it... The greed is a total turn-off...
I came across a project that would do something similar and just of relays you'd pay 166USD... I repeat.. Just of relays... And this product is not using relays but new patented chips... + phantom, +phantom warning, power supply, quality control, software development, website.. and who knows what to keep everything going... You know nothing John Snow...
So go make your own if you believe that. Come back and let us know what it costs you... if you can even make it work.
Or keep using your plug ins and your computer keeps crashing. You don't understand the advantages of having real gear
This is the same thing that SSL did with the Xpatch years ago and it failed. How is this different? The problem with this unit (and others of this type) that regular patch bays will always have over it, is that there's no easy way to add more patch bays for more equipment. This thing is great for home hobbyists, who appears to be the people who love it, because they just have a handful of pieces of gear, especially expensive ones. Or a mastering engineer who has one path but a lot of pieces of gear to move around. But once you get to a pro mixing studio, with racks of high end gear, how do you keep adding flocks without eating up in/outs on each? It's super easy with patch bays to just patch from one bay to another with another TT cable.
Maybe one day they'll figure out how to send audio from one bay to another in an efficient manner, but at the moment this is just an expensive toy for home hobbyists.
Eff, your comment really intrigued me, so I did a search of my own to see what came up in regards to your proposed issues. I found that Flock provides an easily readable "multi-unit guide"* on the front page of their support section (www.flockaudio.com/support) -> (ca85e3d3-4a3f-49ef-ab63-58c17d8e3914.filesusr.com/ugd/4d2b38_ba77e36558624122a58d215416eab776.pdf)
In regard to eating up I/O, this product seems to offer no true difference in multi-bay patching when compared to the standard format bay. Credit where credit is due though, Flock really has done a commendable job in allowing you to create a 90% ITB cable flow that once in place you'll never have to touch again until one of the DB-25 cables ages out, all while letting you create wonderfully customizable patch flows without having to plug and play with physical cables (which, as with most things, would wear out faster the more they are used).
Now, I'm sure that we can agree that what does make patch bays of this type more difficult to work with is the annoying lightness you'll feel in your wallet shortly after purchase, however there in lies the old capitalism standby of "you get what you pay for"
I will agree with you that while SSL had a great idea with the Xpatch, the implementation process could prove to be rougher than desired. However, on the surface, Flock seems to have made a comparable improvement, only time and hands-on interaction will tell if theirs is truly a better system.
*EDIT: originally I had written "multi-unit example", but "guide" is the word choice that is actually used on the site [11/08/2019]
@@ThatGuy-ru8ms They also just released a 96 Point Patch X unit that is amazing. Anyone building a pro studio would reap the benefits of this, the recall, and rerouting possibilities alone are such time savers, anyone running a studio business would clearly see the the advantages.