Slim Powerhouse! - Lenovo Legion Slim 7 (AMD 6800s) User review - form, screen, upgrades, gaming.
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- A in depth user review of the Legion Sim 7 gen 7 AMD. Audio, Screen, Keyboard, I/O, Build, and a little gaming. I don't just spew specs, and i cover actual gaming
Note: i have a subsequent video with more gaming tests, but i wanted this video to be broader.
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Timeline:
0:00 overview/intro
1:08 power brick size
1:42 Design, size, I/O
4:17 Specifications
4:54 Typing and trackpad test
6:50 Included software (and bloat)
11:25 Saving your included wallpapers (do this if you upgrade the storage)
12:04 Included SSD test
12:31 Audio test (headphone warning)
14:18 Screen in a bright room
15:47 Webcam
16:37 Teardown and upgrade options
22:09 Thermal paste inspection
24:29 Timespy and Thermals
25:36 Cyberpunk 1600p testing some settings.
30:48 Three weeks later (my conclusions) 
Игры
In February I decided to go full digital nomad and travel through S.E.A., but it was a pain to find a good laptop for my job, as I actually work with videogames. Most gaming laptops are excessively heavy and visually "loud". In the end and thanks to this review, I got this model and I must say it has been the best choice ever. It's not that heavy, it looks pretty neat and the performance is amazing. I upgraded the RAM with a Crucial 32GB (CT32G48C40S5) and it is working without issues.
Great review and tear down. Keep doing what you’re doing.
First time ever i comment any tech video but this review was spot on perfect.
Thanks :)
Great review, still flatform like this rivew ❤
Thank you for the video. Best Buy had a great price on this today ($1,199 usd) and this video helped me with my purchase decision.
to maximize unplugged battery life:
disable dGPU
run on battery saver mode
reduce screen brightness
enable hibernate when close lid (sleep mode draws more)
change refresh rate to 60hz or 82.5hz
use "night light" (mine turns on at 7pm)
disable HDR video content
reduce background apps/tasks as much as possible
set turn off screen after 3 mins inactivity
set put device to sleep after 15mins, 30 min inactivity
all the above can be tweaked and adjusted to each persons use case, if anyone has any additional things or settings to add, please do.
Good review, thanks :)
Thanks 👍
Thanks for the review and time to demonstrate FSR 2.1 performance in a RT heavy game like Cyberpunk. Most reviews have only gone as far as pointing out how poorly the 6800S performs with RT, or how poorly it performs with this title. Nice to see how playable it can be with a small compromise of RT disable and FSR enable...
Your Timespy score seems to be on the low side for this GPU though. G14 and this laptop were scoring 9000-9100 over at notebookcheck were they not?
Timespy can be a bit wonky, I wouldn’t take too much from that. I have a g14 review I’ll put out eventually, in gaming the legion is slim is superior (temps and thus performance). I’m finalizing a video with a few more games on the slim today. It might be a good one if you want more gaming content for it
I have the slim 7 with the same specs and I'm getting 9300 or so myself, he might just not have had all the performance mode options on or windows was in a non high performance mode when running it
@@Chris-ev6cp 8905 Combined / 9561 GPU / 8799 CPU was my best score before returning it for the 6850M non -slim
unit.
web cam is really nice
Go Beau Go!
Hi !!! Great video!! What is the model number of the ram? Is it CMSX32GX5M1A4800C40?
Hey there, love the teardown. Did I understand correctly that there is an extra nvme slot but it just isn't used by the default configuration?
Amd got screwed (as always) and only got one. Intel had dual nvme. So buy based on that :)
Pro tip - don't use the highest performance mode. It's like 5% in performance at the cost of way higher power consumption, temperatures and fan noise.
I own this one for about two months and I think even 6800H is overkill. They should have gone with 6800u - it packs incredible performance for that low power consumption, gives huge battery life and runs very cool.
I don't think for solid works it's an overkill
@@Inc0gnit045 well, HS then - the middle ground. But as I used 5800U it was really amazing how that little guy performed
@@SerCommander did you use it for things intense motion designing, 3D animations, 4k/6k video editing and stuff?
i own this as well, how do i set it at lower performance mode?
currently i run it on battery saver mode, and bring up the brightness a bit, to get me through an 8 hour productivity work day
I'm using thinkbook 16p g3. 6800h 3060 90w with 16gb Ram sold. I want to change to this model but it heavier 300gram.
is the rog flow x16 non -mini led screen much better or similar?
brother sometimes my laptop opens without needing any fi gerpront or password what's happening?
Hoping to get one of these by the end of January or early February 🙏
Where do you recommend I purchase it from, I'm in the states!?
Thanks
Ayyy, nice. I hope you land one :)
6800S by AMD Radeon is a response to RTX 3070 Ti laptop version.
Nice! I just need money to buy it 🤣🤣
the eternal struggle
I sent back my Legion 7 Gen 7 AMD Ryzen 6900HX Radeon RX 6850XT because it was hitting CPU temps in excess of 95C-110C. Is this now the new normal for AMD temps and I should adapt my expectations when a new stock comes in, especially if you're getting these temps on the Legion Slim?
That’s way too hot. Check my gaming video that was published after this. You’ll see my temps were far lower. Sounds like a defective unit for sure.
Would you recommend the Slim 7 over the Zephyrus G14? In AMD or Intel configuration?
You can watch my g14 video too.
Here are the differences assuming same internals:
G14 is smaller, 14.5 inches.
G14 is MUCH hotter. Hotter is bad
Legion is bigger screen but no thicker (good if you want that)
Legion feels more premium and has a better keyboard and screen
Basically only go g14 if you NEED a 14 inch laptop. Otherwise the slim 7 is quite literally better in every single way
Now:
Amd versus intel. Intel slims don’t really make sense. You get a much worse gpu (3060), and the intel chip will run hotter and drain. Battery faster. Intel laptop aren’t really a good idea unless it’s a desktop replacement (always plugged in) as they die faster, throttle earlier, and lose performance like crazy on battery
For a slim laptop I’m assuming you want portability so amd is king here. Intel does offer dual nvme slots… but that it. So for slim laptops get the amd slim 7
If you DO want a bigger laptop check out my legion 5 pro video. That one is really good but bulkier. However the intel makes a touch more sense as at least you are buying a big laptop likely to not be portable
Honestly there are only two slim gaming laptops this one and Rog flow X16 with good battery life and bigger screen. I see you mentioned in the video X16 is not as nice as this one. May I know what you don't like about the X16 ? I am getting both of these around similar prices and plan to get the 99.99 Wh battery too for Legion if I go with Legion.
Well the legion will have better cooling for sure, and superior build quality overall. It feels like an ultra premium laptop
The x13/16 are still nice, bit they feel more
Gamery.
Cooling wise the legion will also be superior.
That being said the x16 has various specification options, so it really comes down to what gpu and such is inside
@@TechGuyBeau I think X16 has better cooling coz of its third fan and reviews say it is one of the coolest gaming laptops. I am looking towards the rtx 3060 version. X16 definitely looks more professional than Legion. I am still watching reviews of both these and trying to decide.
Based on what I have come across in differences:
Legion: Better build quality, RX 6800S more powerful than 3060(considering similar priced X16 with 3060, X16 has 3070Ti model for $500 more)
Flow X16: Lightweight, Better battery life, Better cooling, Better future upgradability, Touchscreen, Tablet and stylus support.
@@pinakmiku4999 I wouldn’t rely on the flow having “better cooling” in reality. Both will be very cool overall.
Mainly it comes down to:
Better over build quality: legion
Touch and convertible: x16
Performance: legion
Keyboard and touchpad: legion
Scalability: flow with 3070ti
Personally I wouldn’t buy a flow x16 with a 3060. It just not that powerful. The legion would be hands down a better buy, no contest.
BUT a 3070(ti) x16 would be a superb slim powerhouse. I’d say decide based on that
Lower price; go legion
Higher price; go x16
That’s my personal take.
@@TechGuyBeau Thank you for your suggestion. Honestly I am not looking for a powerful gaming laptop. Otherwise I would have looked towards getting Legion 5 pro/Legion 7/ Zephyrus M16 etc. My top criteria is buying the most power efficient with good battery life and light weight as possible closer to 4.5 lb. For me CPU performance is important which both the laptops are providing.
Since this was becoming difficult for me, I just placed order for both of these. Got Legion from Lenovo and X16 from bestbuy. Will test them out and see which one suits better and return the other one.
@@pinakmiku4999 😈
90c for CPU for thin laptop
As u said i don't think those laptops are meant for long gaming sessions,
Getting laptop with 2.5kg for gaming is worth for intensive gaming
Thanks for the review
Based on the temps of this laptop, I have no worries about long gaming sessions :)
hey man! ty for an excellent review! i have a question, i have the same model but i dont have rgb on my keyboard online white light wich i active with fn + space bar i wanna know if that is ok? or i have another model?
What is your GPU?
RX6800s
@@TechGuyBeau
Hello, a question. Is a legion slim 7 with ryzen 7 5800H, 32gb ram, rtx 3060 graphics card 4K screen at 60Hz better or a legion 5 with ryzen 5 4600H, 16gb ram, gtx 1650ti graphics 2K screen at 120Hz?
For competitive games I don't know if a 60Hz screen is enough
A legion slim with 3060 is vastly superior. Remember, 120hz in games is only noticeable if you are getting above 60fps. A 1650 is significantly weaker than a 3060, so you won’t get above 60fps with good settings.
Also a 5800h is WAY better than a 4600h, as is 32gb ram.
Screen refresh rate is nice, but I would never sacrifice all those other essentials for some hz
Would this Gpu be better than that rtx 4050 100w that’s on the yoga pro 9i?
Most likely yes
Couldn't find any for less than $2200 canadian. Where did you get yours?
Direct from Lenovo. Their sales are almost random, so you need to keep checking
Nice, can you compare this to the legion 7 (performance and stuff) in some games?
I will be making an exclusive gaming video for the slim. Currently working on it. Those games should be directly comparable to the full 7. Unfortunately I don’t have the normal 7 anymore, but the videos should enlighten the differences
I can tell you ahead of that, the 6850m xt is much more powerful. It is closer to a 140-150 watt 3070ti, whereas the 6800s would be closest to a 100-120 watt 3070.
@@TechGuyBeau i was curious on what the performance on modern warfare 2 would be like, I know the legion 7 is really good performance is better than 3080ti in most of the games
@@xruud24 ruclips.net/video/K7WWPNgei68/видео.html
have a look at this. This is the MW2 beta, on the same GPU.
The g14 would run hotter, so the Legion should be able to get a bit more FPS. Also drivers will have improved since the beta.
I suspect it would run quite nicely on the device :)
@@TechGuyBeau wait, I thought you replacement your PC with legion 7.
I did… just not this one >:)
I finalized my laptop recently… it’s been quite the journey. A video of that will be soon. (The 6850m xt model was just too pricy in the end).
I would love to know what the fan noise is like when not gaming since I do not plan to use it for gaming
Silent
@@TechGuyBeau Thanks a lot for the reply, I think i'll go for it.
its my favorite feature about this laptop, silent and also COOL to the touch. all while being still powerful. just need to tinker with it to get max battery life out of it. goal is to get 8-10 hours of productivity on 1 full charge.
What color is this? "Storm Grey", "Onyx Grey" or other?
looks like onyx grey
@@ryansony Yeah. And the regular one he reviewed looks like "storm grey". The impression I get is that "storm grey" is the default color, and "onyx grey" has only selected parts a little darker - note how keyboard looks the same in both.
I remember your 6850M XT review and then several game performance test videos.
So the 6850 SKU was too pricy for what it was especially compared to the L7 Slim?
I'm starting to cross-shop this Slim and the L7 6850, especially since Lenovo US has the L7 3070ti variant set to be shipped in March of 2023, the last I checked. That's ridiculous.
That’s a tough one. The 6850m xt was expensive for me at the time $2800 CAD. It is a top performing laptop, one of the best in existence (the best in my opinion) but that’s a hefty price tag.
The slim has the exact same build, only a touch slimmer. The primary difference is gpu and upgrades.
The slim has a 6800s (close to a 3070/ti of equivalent wattage, 100 watts)
The full 7 has a 6850m xt at 140watts, which is close to a full bore 3070ti full watt or a weaker 3080ti. Basically it is the best amd has to offer, equivalent more or less to the best of nvidia
IF you need a super slim portable laptop, (but still 16”) it’s hard to beat the slim. Is very powerful for what it is.
If you are okay with a touch more bulk, the legion 5 pro will easily easily outmatch a slim 7 in gaming performance, although it’s thicker and has crappy speakers.
If you are mildly patient, I will be also publishing a review of the legion 5 pro (2022) in the next day or so.
Here is my takeaway:
- no budget restrictions, get the legion 7 Gen 7. It won’t be beat by anything. This is a 1440p ultra everything machine, or moderate 4K gaming.
- you need portability but still a large screen and super premium build. Get the slim 7. It’s much cheaper too. It’s a true 1440 middleman for gpu.
- if you don’t want to overspend, are okay with a tiny bit more bulk, but want BLAZING performance like the full 7… get the legion 5 pro (2022). You can configure it with a 150watt 3070 or 3070ti. It’s a monster.
@@TechGuyBeau As my student life is winding down and the only time my current laptop, a 15" MBP, leaves the desk is when I want to use it on my bed, I wonder how much portability is an issue for me. I'm still trying to figure it out and the MBP beats most other machines when it comes to size and weight. But I'm looking for a gaming laptop and gaming on a Mac is just not good. It's even worse on the M1 chips since Boot Camp isn't an option.
Budget is too big of an issue but I've come across the 6850 SKU with 1 TB of SSD and the 6800H (not the 6900HX you had as well as the 2 TB) for $1999. That seems fair to me, even when the L7 3070ti with the same specs is about $60 more. Availability is an issue on the Nvidia variant whereas the AMD can still be here before christmas. I think the L7 Slim from Lenovo's site is about $300 cheaper than the AMD L7.
I've really been struggling with it since I want to get a laptop that is head and shoulders above my Series S and its performance as I don't want much overlap in gaming capabilities between the two.
@@gandoo10 get the legion 7 AMD
@@gandoo10 the legion 7 amd or Intel will be the most premium gaming laptop you’ve ever felt. I was shocked at its build quality
It’s not exactly light, it’s 1” bigger than your MacBook and thicker for sure
It’s not a thick or bulky laptop by any means, every mm is utilized effectively. So you won’t feel like you bought some ugly bulky mess. But… it’s not an ultrabook obviously
As for amd vs nvidia:
Intel will have more power when plugged in, but will be MUCH weaker on batter. Amd will be pretty consistent across the board. As for the CPUs, to be honest, I highly doubt in the real
World the amd or Intel will feel any different other than the battery. In both cases they are very powerful mobile chips.
So it probably comes down to gpu. The gpu in the amd model is basically the same in terms of raw performance. Some wins, some losses. Nvidia DOES have superior ray tracing. So if you are very concerned with ray tracing then nvidia would be a better buy. If you… like me… care nothing for RT, then it’s irrelevant. Amd does have fsr 2.0 which is nearly as good as dlss, so if you toss in fsr 2.0 you can massively improve frame rates, even in raytracing.
Personally, I prefer amd processors. As for
GPUs I don’t really lean one way or the other. If you need it before Xmas, the amd model is a killer killer buy.
You can check out my other gaming video on the legion 7 Gen 7 amd that focuses on pure gaming. You’ll see how powerful it really is, and what fsr 2.0 can do
Basically: if you want before Xmas, just get the amd model
I wouldn’t consider the slim over the full 7 unless you REALLY need mobility. As while similar in design and premium-ness, it does have a weaker gpu by quite a bit
@@TechGuyBeau Well put.
One last question, how are temps on the AMD during gaming? I've read AMDs are nice and cool on battery when doing work but that efficiency vanishes when gaming while plugged in, compared to its Nvidia counterparts.
Is it uncomfortable heat or is it just technically hotter than Nvidia but not something that affects gaming?
This RAM issue is confusing for me. Is it safe to install not matching RAM, like 8+16gb or 8+32gb? Some say you loose in performance and 8+8gb RAM is faster than 8+16gb.
Yep. All ddr5 runs in dual channel, even single sticks. It isn’t like old memory. It’s still better to pair for max speed though.
So let’s say:
1. you have 8gb soldered. Nothing else. Dual channel 8gb.
2. You have 8gb soldered and an 8gb stick = quad channel.
3. Now mismatched 8 + 16. Your first 16 gb is quad, the remaining 8 is in dual.
This is a simplification but yeah. Basically in short it won’t really matter in the real world, especially with ddr5 memory.
I had this machine at 40gb without a single issue 8+32
@@TechGuyBeau Thank you for the clarification. I am eyeing the same laptop and i was a little concered about ram upgrade possibilities.
@@jdobbs876 very long yes. A lot of the time when you change the configuration of ram, specifically the amount or speed the system will take a long time to post the first time has it has to test out the memory and such. Give it a good long while after installation to do anything
@@TechGuyBeau Thanks for your prompt answer.
I have a g14, when I play games the GPU averages 67c and CPU 75c. I play at 1080p (actually 1080x1200, which is higher) at ultra settings. I have never had temps as high as 91c that is extremely unhealthy. my average fps is around 100-200. Here are the specs on my g14: ryzen 9 6900hs, rx 6800s 32gb ddr4@ 4800MHz, 2TB ssd (gen4). I have had lenovo laptops, they all fail. they have issues and fall apart.
What's your keyboard in the background?
Epomaker EP-48 hotswappable. It’s the “retro” colour scheme.
I have added in kiwi and banana switched
was it hard to remove back cover mate? you skipped that bit of your video.
Super easy on this one. Take out the screens and you can pop it off with a fingernail.
The legion 5 pro…. My god was that model hard to take the bottom off
@@TechGuyBeau ok. I have come across a couple of reviews where people complain how hard it is, including Jarrod bending its enclosure.
Brother does it harm lapyop if olayed game for 2hrs at cpygpu 75°c
75 degrees is nothing
can we get gta v rdr 2 from x box game pass? the legion slim 7i 2022 alsi has x box game pass right?
Neither of those are on gamepas. But there are loads of wicked games. You’ll get 2 or 3 Months free. I love gamepass and bought three years worth lol
Thinking of buying one... its on a sale right now for 1270$ Canadian, estimated 41% savings, should i buy it?
Good price.
@@TechGuyBeau is it still a good buy if its a RTX 6600, didnt notice your video was for a 6800 and the purchase is a 6600
@@kudohlol9379 it’s still a pretty good buy for a thin and light at that price.
It’s not going to perform like a full sized legion, but it’s still going to provide good gaming performance
I emailed Levono they said there is no ram upgrade does the Corsair work I have the 82ug0002us
I installed a 32 GB module, from corsair, and it worked fine
@@TechGuyBeau just double checking, I was sure we had the same model number. Thank you for responding I will be using the exact same
brother i am planning to buy the legion slim 7i 12700h 3060. legion 7 isn't avaiabke so what do you think how will it perfomrm conapred to this
The 6800s is more powerful and has more VRAM. The 3060 has access to DLS. In the end you will be fine with either.
thanks brother
Will this be a good work type laptop? Like excel, coding. stuff like that?
Very much so.
Big keyboard with number pad. Relatively thin. Good cpu for coding. Nice keyboard for typing. Etc.
The legion slim make the perfect work machine while being able to game
@TechGuyBeau can you provide a link to this laptop?
@@chty101 that’s going to depend on where you live
@TechGuyBeau US.
Brother i am finally getting The Legion slim 7i 2022 12700h 3060. in few weeks
Awesome. Enjoy
@@TechGuyBeauthanks. Watching your Same review multiple times.
brother i finally bought the legionslim 7i 12700h 3060.
At first when observed the screen i had expectations that 1600p would be super sharp. I asked my friend to bring his laptop 1080p and compared and now i know how superduper sharp the 1600p is. It looks so good.
I downloaded free games like valorant. Pubg. But i couldn't even use x box game pass because i don't have visa creditcard like this. And coukdnt make one. I even recorded a PUBGPC gameolay and its super good looking due to high resokution a 32 min videi is 11GB.
#Brother my question= should i partition my ssd i have 1tb ssd. Does it slow down ssd.Is it good or bad to partition. If i want
#I have kept password pin and fi gerprint but sometimes it opens without needibg any of those.?
# its been 3 days and i haven't charged 100% out of the box when i unboxed i immediateky kept in conservstiin mode
You can partition the ssd without any issues. It won’t cause any problems at all
@@TechGuyBeau thank you brother
@@Romash. Hey!!, How is your slim 7i performing after 2 months?
Does it get really hot or is the thermals quite decent?
How many hours does this machine run on battery when used in balanced mode for normal everyday usage?
I'm planning to get one for myself, would be really helpful if you share your experience.
Brother do we really notice the difference in high and ultra in 1600p
On a 16” screen it won’t be super noticeable no. On a big screen you can tell easier
i tend to go for the legion slim 7i 2022 rather than 2021 legion 7. Because good battery, good processor powerful better light portable although no rgb like 2021 all around. But the lools and build quality of 2022 legion slim 7i looks insanse and bettee than even razer blades
i get it AMD is great but i found an intel i5 for 700AUD, 4GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Graphics, 512GB NVMe on sale in Australia. If i was to insist on getting the AMD version would have bumped up the price well over 2000 AUD, no complaints whatsoever, does all i want it to do without issues. I wonder why not a single review of this laptop covers the intel version... dissapointing
How is the battery life like?
Pretty good tbh. It has quite a bit batter and you can disable the dGPU. Obviously gaming on battery isn’t a good call
@@TechGuyBeau great review my man, where do i disable the dGPU ? is it by enabling hybrid mode in vantage software?
@@dude2666 yes that’s right, you can also do it from the bios.
@@TechGuyBeau thanks for confirmation, appreciate it !
bro can u make a video on how to download all games fro free
Sorry I own all the games I show. I use a combination of steam and other stores and Xbox gamepass.
For value, gamepass is easily the best to get as many games for super low cost
What is it’s weight?
~4.3 pounds
@@TechGuyBeau Is it measured weight or just from website? I see most people saying ~4.8 pounds
@@pinakmiku4999 I think that depends on specifications. PSREF lists it as “less than 4.8 lbs”
Whatever that means
brothet i get 100-110 fps 2560*1600p in fortnite epic-high-mdeium-low🤣 what's happening in my legion slim 7i
80-90 in max settings in PUBG PC 230-280fps in max settings in valorant
the lack of second ssd is a deal breaker... so sad
The 6900hx is substantially more powerful than a 6800h, it's worth every penny. It's overclockable and so it gets to be about 15-20% faster with a proper strong tune
That is if your laptop cooling can handle pushing any further than it’s already maxing out at currently. While yes I’m sure an overclock might gain a very small amount of benefits such as 1-3 fps in a game it also sets a your laptop motherboard on fire ultimately lowering your performance lower than where you started. I’d just give it a very small tune and let it run as the good lord intended.