What the Hell is Moschops?!
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- What the Hell is Moschops? On of the stranger animals from the Permian, it comes from a very interesting geologic area, the Karoo Basin. With many odd features to live in it's environment there's still a lot we don't know, but a lot we do.
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Am I crazy, I thought the Falkland islands were off south America not south Africa? Or was it comparing some geological similarities and not position?
So I simplified, but the image did shot the Falkland Plateau related to the Falkland islands. South America, Antarctica, and southern Africa grouped together. So it was parts of the thrust fronts of the Falklands Plateau, and Antarctica which formed the Cape Fold Mountains.
@@RaptorChatter ah OK! 😂 Thanks for the clarification!
it is
Love the 3rd eye aspect
Malvines islands.
moschops are also known for their excellent ability to haverst rare mushrooms/flowers, sap and organic polymer
I honestly didn't even know it was in ARK until I started looking for more photos.
They are good at collecting prime meat at early game
@@RaptorChatter
They are more annoying than useful mostly being an early game harvester
Great early tame!!
Who literally ask for anything to tame up
“What the Hell is Moschops?”
Ark players: “Allow us to introduce ourselves.”
Carnivores players: a fellow enjoyer?
Now do one about Moschoke and Moschamp.
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OH I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!!!🤣🤣🤣
No no, damn you XD damn you to the league champ and back!!
Certified Machop/Machoke/Machamp moment
Wait till he talks about Gmax moschamp
@@kingdedede3814 Aaaaah 0o0'' XD
It’s one of the best early game tames for fiber and berries without a saddle.
I honestly didn't even realize it was in Ark until trying to get photos and realizing that a lot of the images were from the game.
I only use them for meat and poop
Really? Interesting. I always passed them up for another early game herbivore. Usually parasaur or a low level equus
@@TopFurret parasaur works but you need a saddle, equus can be hard to find and taming them is non intuitive.
@@TopFurret I seem to recall them being good amphibious swimmers
“What the hell is moschops?”
A friend.
A friend from childhood 🤭🤭🤭
A poli gatherer
@@julioalbertoherrera1339 at least he had one 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
some dude i shot for no particular reason on an alien planet
Moschops was the first animal I tamed in ark, her name was Alex and she survived for 4 straight years until one day, an alpha carno broke into my house and ate her
I first encountered Moschops in Carnivores. They're shy but chill blokes, almost prehistoric Capybaras.
I was looking exactly for Carnivores comment. Not gonna lie when I was in a bad mood I would use them as target practice as kid. And Pteranodon when I was even in a worst mood.
They are very useful for raising the taming effectiveness on desmodus.
such a great addition to the game
Not my moechop 😭
but you definitely need to breed and not wild tame them
Really? I might try that soon
@@dainty_axolotl4934 yes, its also work for bloodstalker, because bloodstalker and desmodus taming method is similar
It's one of those creatures they always used to put in bags of cheaply-moulded plastic dinosaur toys when I was a kid, but that you almost never hear about, these days. 😉
Cool video! Thank you!
That's very true. I know it mostly from those old sorts of things lol.
They came in a sticker pack made by Panini: six stickers and one animal, mostly dinosaurs and marine reptiles... No wait, it was Cynognathus 😁 well, Mochops was in the book as a sticker, and I was weirded out, even after fifteen years of being a dino fan 😁😁
The pre-dinosaur world in general is rarely featured in documentaries, which is a bummer because a lot of wild things were happening with those early land vertibrates.
Lol I have a cheap dinosaur toy set with a desmatosuchus
Same. And in that bag, Moschops was oddly my favorite.
It's one of those obscure prehistoric animals I skimmed through while reading an encyclopedia as a kid and now for some reason lives rent free in my mind along side Gerrothorax, Eryops and Diplocalus.
Yeah, it's definitely one of the better known ones from the Permian. I just couldn't recall any recent discussion about it.
Used to have one of these in my plastic dinosaur collection many years ago. Always been fascinated by those other (not) dinosaurs like Moschops and the other Synapsids.
They're so under discussed in most media, who basically go look at the dinosaurs, and then look at the mammoth, with little of the before or in between.
first time stumbling across your channel and i must say im loving this dude! This is kind of how I talk to my students where enough scientific language is thrown around but its still like having a convo and not being lectured (may use these in a lesson or two!)
When I was a child back in the late 1950s and early 1960s I had a collection of plastic "dinosaurs". I put the name in quotes because Moschops (and Dimetrodon, Sphenacodon) was among the various dinosaurs, including the usual ones such as Plateosaurus, Tyrannosaurus, Brontosaurus, Stegosaurus, Ankylosaurus, Allosaurus, Iguanodon, Triceratops, "Trachodon" (name no longer in use), etc. Of course creatures from the Permian were mixed in with creatures from the Mesozoic.
I love the presentation of this dinosaur in the video. Every part. Even the ominous music. Loved it all!
Maybe you should have just focused on the video content itself, rather than the presentation. Then you would know it wasn't in fact a dinosaur. 😃
And of course, Moschops' most lasting legacy, being a potential inspiration to the designs and/or at least the English names of the Pokémon line of Machop, Machoke, and Machamp (seriously, look at their faces and think of anything else). And that Moschops toy I had whose arms had right-angle elbows and rotated at the shoulder, that was always a fun mess to try posing.
Moschop
Moschoke
Moschamp
I wouldn't be shocked if at least the root words were from the same place.
I mean I'm pretty sure that's a coincidence because it's just macho plus chop but
It do be sounding similar
Moschops has been a favorite of mine since I first saw them in the game carnivores as a child.
That was a fairly fun game it should be said. Or at least i enjoyed it.
@@RaptorChatter I think so too, plus they keep re-rereleasing them so others must as well.
@@Beastlango
Yeah, I played Carnivores: Dinosaur Hunter when I was a kid. It’s a mobile port of Carnivores 2. I loved that game, I should try it again.
@@MetaFanWing their ice age game is really fun too
The shoulder on that Moschops looks like it would have made a great Mos-shoulder roast.
As a kid, Moschops was the first Non-dinosaur name I learned, they became one of my favourites too.
They were definitely one of the more prominent ones when I was growing up, but I have seen much of them recently.
What is moschops?
Its a beginner tame, found on beach areas, that is used by Bobs for transport and harvesting. It had decent weight and speed, can harvest virtually anything but is a below average mount for battle.
Its often overlooked, but is a fantastic little harvester that is useful even through the midgame.
They are great at harvesting organic poly too
It's so weird that my collection of plastic "dinosaurs" included a moschops, 50 years ago. Seems an odd choice for the toymakers.
I believe I also had a mesosaur and separate mosasaur. The former being similarly super-rare in popular "dinosaur" media.
I love finding a new channel to explore.
Great stuff !!
Thanks!
honestly i'd like to see a maschops in paleomedia , it just feels right , it's like a big iguana with a thick skull and sprawled legs , it feels primordial and unique in a way in wich few animals do today
and i'd like to see one move in cgi
Yeah, if Prehistoric Planet ever gets permission for a Paleozoic season I'd love to see it.
it does appear in ark;survival evole game.Maybe it will appear in animated series as well.
Moschops were always my favorite animal, but no one ever talks about them. Thank you for this video.
You're welcome!
What is Moschops?
A wonderful being.
Moschops is my favorite ancient animal and I have no idea why. I just love them lol
Thanks carnivores dino hunter for introducing me to this guy
How much moss must a Moschops chop if a Moschops must chop moss?
The scientific name means "Moss chopper" in Greek 🇬🇷🏛️🏺
🤣🤣🤣
Raasclark
Moschops is a rather underrated creature in Ark survival evolved that often gets passed up for other bigger creatures
I wasn't aware that Moschops was in that game until I was looking for photos during editing, but yeah, a lot of people have said it's great early game.
@@RaptorChatter Yep can be statted to harvest any one thing to greater then any creature or most tools...or taming other creatures
Moschops and their relatives maintaining the trend of increasingly weird critters the further back we look into the fossil record. Sure, there's some features that we can see at least the start of more modern morphologies, but there's still a whole lot of 'pretty much all surviving lineages came up with very different solutions to those problems' too.
Maybe it's just me, but it always feels that the Permian is kinda the last gasp of the truly weird, even though it's downright tame compared to say, the Cambrian biota. (We still love you, freaks of the Burgess Shale!)
Idk, the triassic had some very weird animals, too.
@@42ZaphodB42 Fair. I don't think of them as really bizarre as some of the Permian or earlier, but it's perfectly valid to call that line later on than I do.
Honestly, in some ways I agree. The Permian was the last of the truly weird. while many groups evolved in the Tr, many died out, and those that remained were pretty similar to modern groups.
I don't really see that point of view because more modern animals have a far greater variety of forms (consider flamingos, elephants, humans etc) than these more basal animals.
Wow! What a great delivery! I love this video
Thanks!
Moschops reminds me a bit of a giant English bulldog, especially head-on.
They at least have moderately similar posture.
a very good rare flower harvester
"Entirely semi-aquatic" is cursed wording
Yeah, I made the mistake while recording, and then just didn't catch it until we were almost done editing, whoops.
@@RaptorChatter Easily done. I liked the video though!
Imagine being a goofy creature dying out millions of years ago and future paleontologists are laughing at your body.
Listen, its a little silly, but I could laugh at modern animals, like armadillos? they're so goofy
@@RaptorChatter Moschops what a name. It was the Rodney Dangerfield of its day!
@@hoibsh21 Moschops don't get no respect.
What about the hairless apes that walk about on their back legs like avian dinosaurs ?
@@julianshepherd2038 That's fukn bizzare.
Awesome video! Really glad I found your channel! As an orthodontist, felt I should chime in on a very minor thing in case you ever get talking about teeth again:
Ankylosis is pronounced like “ankle-low-sis” - pronounced just like ankle as in you sprained your ankle. Not trying to be overly pedantic, just a friendly tip!
The reason a gomphosis allows the teeth to come into more direct contact is because the periodontal ligament, is filled with compressible fluid and basically acts as a shock absorber for your teeth. Without it, if you bit down too hard the forces would travel directly into your jaw bone and could fracture your jaw.
Human teeth can actually get ankylosed too! All the reasons it happens is still unclear, but basically the cementum becomes fused with the alveolar bone (jaw bone), making the tooth both impossible to move orthodontically and very difficult to extract for oral surgeons.
The two most common situations we experience this as orthodontists is either when trying to pull in impacted teeth (adult teeth that get stuck way up in the jaw and never drop down and erupt to replace the baby teeth), and in over retained baby teeth that never fall out, such as when the adult tooth that should replace it never develops. Ankylosed teeth actually prevent the jaw bone from growing properly, and can prevent the surrounding teeth from erupting properly, leading to a big “dip” in the persons teeth and they won’t touch the top teeth properly when you bite.
They’re a real nightmare to deal with orthodontically, I hate them lol. The usual test we do is tapping on the suspected tooth with a metal instrument handle. If it’s ankylosed, it makes a very sharp sounding, unmistakable metallic ring noise, like hitting a spoon on concrete- vs a normal tooth which has a dull sound when tapped.
When I hear that sound, I know I’m gonna be in for a very bad time trying to straighten the persons teeth.
Thanks for the pronunciation correction, I felt like it was off while recording, but couldn't place it. And thanks for the even more in depth explanation on gomphosis. I was trying to remember the exact reasoning while recording because I made my notes on that part too simplified lol.
@@RaptorChatter happy to help man! Keep crushing it!! 🙌
Maybe a good question. If a future paleontologest say a million years from now with out written knowelege of our time and animals found bone fossils of say a miniature poodle, a great Dane, a st Barnard and a whippet would they clasifie it as 1 or 4 species?
That's a great question, and one that biologists even today struggle with. I discuss species concepts in the video on if there's multiple species of Tyrannosaurus, but basically the idea of a species is a human construct, in actual animal you can have populations which are identical in morphology, but never interbreed and have different behaviors. Similarly with some animals like warblers you can have multiple different looking animals all hybridizing. So the definition used becomes a major part of the discussion when looking at what is a species.
Add to that some species who change a bit while growing... Like some people claiming a Ceratopsid's crest kept growing through his life and what we know as Triceratops is actaully a Torrosaurus not fully grown....
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 That theory isn’t widely accepted to say the least Torosaurus is almost certainly its own genus hell we have old Triceratops and sub adult Torosaurus and Torosaurus seems to be smaller than Triceratops which further hurts the theory.
@@bennettfender9927 well, the example of the Casuari is a strong one, the crest is almost not present in juveniles and becomes impressive in adults, so at least the Avian Dinosaurs have this trait, and seeing how Iguanodon changed over 200 years and Spinosaurus over 20, I would not hold it impossible.
Oh, and if Triceratops was bigger, them that might have been the adult form, were it not for Torosaurus having a longer crest...
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 Why would Triceratops get rid of its armored frill a useful defense mechanism as it aged? That makes no sense as the frill it already has was probably evolved in response to Tyrannosaurus rex arriving from the continent from Asia if anything. Plus there’s other issues with the theory. Torosaurus isn’t actually known from younger strata in Hell Creek seemingly dying out before the actual K-PG event meaning it only lived alongside the earlier horridus species not porsus. This punches holes in the theory as why would one species get special headgear as it aged but not the other. Plus Torosaurus had other differences as well the beak shape is completely different from both Triceratops species. Plus Torosaurus remains are rare and they are never found alongside Triceratops hinting at perhaps different habitat preferences. I could go in but there are 2 research papers you can read that shred Horner dumb ass theory so I’ll just leave it at that for now.
I am starting this video now and I really hope it makes reference to the Moschops claymation shoe from the UK in the 80's.
It's a great video regardless.
You are actually the way I found out about this, and now I wish I had included it
For me, Moschops looks like those complete inaccurate dinosaur drawings, but made real
If you feed a Moschops a bunch of stimberries, they make a lot of fertilizer-rich poop. They're fun to ride, but kind of slow and weak.
I wasn't aware that Moschops was in that game until I was looking for photos during editing, but yeah, a lot of people have said it's great early game.
Not to mention they're absolutely goated for early game ark.
I just found your channel and I love your videos, especially this WTH series! It covers all the bizarre critters from the past and I love it! Would you ever consider doing a video on Cotylorhynchus? It's one of my favorite extinct animals because of how bizarre it was, and I am unsure as to how it would've fed with such a short neck. Thanks for reading!
Ok but like... Imagine if they and their relatives lived to today. Firstly a dog sized one sounds adorable. Second, you're 10 years old, time to start your Pokemon journey take this thing.
These barrel bodied ancient animals are so strange. How on earth would that kind of anatomy be any effective lol
I heard about an aggressive cryptid encounter that described a similar animal
I have had this personal dinosaur fringe theory even though I am in no way shape or form an expert for years. I call it the moschops trash chute theory. Basically the idea is that because it lived in a more arid period of the Permian that the plants they ate were tough to digest (and it could even have swallowed rocks) it developed a large stomach and large esophagus where the guy would barely have to even swallow they would just sort of use their teeth to rake the leaves off and their lower jaw functioned like a shovel and the plant material would just slither down its throat with minimal effort.
I will never not be amazed that we can look at an extinct animals teeth, how the world around them looked like at the time, and be able to say with reasonable certainty how it lived it's life. Great vid!
Thanks!
You have successfully summoned the ark players
When I get recommended this video because of ark survival 2 trailer
Ooh, I had forgotten that that trailer came out. I also wasn't aware that Moschops was in that game until I was looking for photos during editing.
Their necks are so thick because they eventually evolved into Machop during the Holocene.
They look like they would fall forward all the time
In some ways, but remember the lungs and other organs are towards the front, so would be lighter than just muscle mass.
First time I heard of moschops was on ark and they pretty cute like a dino dog would love to see irl
If i had a pet moschops, I would name it 'Zuul'
How much moss could a Moschops chop, if a Moschops could chop moss?
It's the passive, polymer, puppy
The best dinos to tame for an easy early game fiber
Between the thickened skull, potentially semi-aquatic lifestyle and its name, Moschops reminds me more of a Permian water buffalo than a hippo. Of course, the dentition is quite different, but given that grass didn't exist back then it's pretty understandable.
Basically they are just big scared iguanas
I love the moschops in ark
learning about the best first tame so i feel good now
I know what Moschops is. It's an old animated series for kids.
I wasn't actually aware of that until I saw a few other comments about it. Now I wish I had known before I made the video.
*"what the hell is moschops?"*
Ark players: weak.
It is the best early game tame
I remember in E.V.O Search for Eden having to fight these guys. They hid in the ground and leapt out to attack you. Obnoxious punks, but that game is what got me into biology as a whole.
It's always interesting to see what can get people interested, especially because there's so many different starting points.
Moschops, Moschoks, Moschamp. Fighting type Pokémon.
Next fossil pokemon line hopefully lol
You must have said it was a Dinocephalian, and its more exclusive clades.
Can’t stop the chop baby
Ark player be like:he is a cute harvester doggo
It has the posture of a large beefy hyena but a totally different animal.
In some ways. it's be interesting to see if they had it for similar reasons, but I'm not much for a biomechanicist.
I have a books where Moschops is portrayed.
Moschops looks like one of those ridiculous ‘dinosaur’ sculptures from the late 1800s and early 1900s built by people who know very little about palaeontology so they constructed these bulky cringe absurd looking things. It’s hard to believe Moschops was real because of this but I guess it was.
Invicta (British Museum) made a pretty good little Moschops that I still have. Its the only figure of that animal that I know of.
there's also a marx figure, as well as a promotional figure you could find in Europe ; distributed by the brands Ovomaltine, Henkel and Yoplait
I had the Playskool Definitely Dinosaurs Moschops as a kid, so I have a soft spot for it.
Yeah, it's one of the odd synapsids which actually got at least somewhat known because of a few toys and other media representation about it.
It looks like a giant Tegu.
Moschops
That shirt is seriously awesome.
Thanks. I think I got it on clearance from REI. Marmot is the brand.
Beautiful name
No, no. That is my cat's name. Mos for short. He's got a "third ear" for the distant sound of cat food cans being opened.
Moschops: when you get a lousy name, but can't doing anything about it because you died 260 million years ago.
ah someone knows of Moschops! as a child there was a show with the same name, i had always assumed it was made up until i learnt about the creature from books, years later.
I wasn't actually aware of that until I saw a few other comments about it. Now I wish I had known before I made the video. I had seen it in some of my books as a kid though.
Moschops (cute name!) reminds me of a big cow in many ways. I wonder if it had more than one stomach? It may have chewed the food a second time like cows do. The type, herbivore with sturdy teeth, eating tough plants that need to be fermented in the stomach or chewed again, seems to have evolved many times. Convergent evolution! 😀
I would be surprised if they had more than one stomach. Ruminant mammals are really the only herbivores with something like that, so it'd be surprising for them to show up somewhere else. If anything it was probably a large hind gut like a horse.
@@RaptorChatter Maybe they swallowed stones to help with digestion, like some dinosaurs and birds.
Moschops had great eating Pork Chops.
Watching this, I couldn’t figure out why I was getting creeped out. Then I heard the music playing
Is it just me or does this Moschops look like that Dino they used in that ancient monster movie "The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms"!!?? Jim C.
It at least has a similar posture in someways yeah. Maybe it did serve as some of the inspiration.
A cool name for a pokemon
I had a toy moschops when I was a kid. For real! :-)
I feel like I didn't, but saw it in a lot of the books that I had as a kid.
My starter vault
14:27 I know that C.M. Koseman did something like that with the para-reptiles.
Sounds like a cut Pokémon.
I love them
I don't think that I have encountered any reference to this animal since I had a plastic figure of it as a boy in the '60s. I probably thought that it and dimetrodon were dinosaurs then.
They are so cute!
I only heard of Moschops playing dinosaur hunter hd pro on my phone.
I had heard of it before then, but when I was in highschool that's what reminded e it existed too!
Moschops 0wnz you all.
"Choppage"
The lake water Cyclops drank to help they to digest this highly fibrous foods ..
I only found this because of Ark lol
Yep that's all im going to say yep
I know what I’m doing, I play ark.
Nothing is evolved "for a purpose". Evolving is an inescapable consequence, not a plan.
I think that depends on how you define "for a purpose". Hominids evolved bipedal posture to get around grasslands better. Was the intention at the start to become bipedal, no, but that's still why the adaptation arose.
@@RaptorChatter adaptation did not rise because of an intent. You are anthropomorphizing a natural process, and implying some kind of guiding intelligence.
Nothing was evolved FOR. Evolution happens after. It's a consequence, not a cause.
9:42/9:47 Or the Pachycephalosaurs because of what you mentioned at 1:02?
ARK players: "They're berry gatherers."