The fact that the car never fell to a Super2 team to be gutted and reworked, thereby losing that connection to its V8SC history, is a blessing. Whatever isn't a safety or structural integrity issue, keep it original I reckon. Love these vids, mate. Look forward to the next one.
Heres my 2c worth about the chassis rail dent. If it was my car and it had passed scrutineering for the last 4 years and the powers to be are happy with it as it is, then I'd leave it alone . Good luck with the build, it will be a credit to you when its done.
Keep all the bar work that was a performance gain and remove the ride car changes, It was awesome to see how a original build was modified to keep up with the rest of the pack
I would leave as much original sheet metal in the car as possible and would also leave the additional cage bars that were added during it's actual competition life
And as an AU fan, it's interesting to see the difference between the inner panels of a series 1 AU and the later version on the donor car at around the 5m30s mark
My thoughts, if it ain't broke don't fix it. If it is broken, repair it. If it's not cost effective to repair, then replace it. It's a race car at the end of the day and a cool one at that, it's got to live on. Keep up the good work.
I think keeping the rough-and-tumble history and story of the car, but with the 2000 livery as it rolled out is fantastic! I hope you have enough sheet metal still there around that rear door to get a new quarter panel on one more time (one last time, hopefully)!
If I owned it, I'd want it as it was last raced when Glenn was an owner-driver (livery is irrelevant as they're just stickers) . If I wanted a concourse AU race car, I'd start with something like the donor car.
"If I wanted a concourse AU race car, I'd start with something like the donor car." I don't think anyone will though. There was a BJR AU shell for sale, just a shell with no cage but it already had the tubbed wheelarches and modifications for diff and gearbox clearance, it was pretty cheap (it was $3k IIRC)... But even then the cost of the running gear like the Holinger and the race-spec engine with the trumpets is so much greater than the cost of a AU bodyshell^ at this point in time, and with no race history even if it's a perfect V8 Supercar recreation it's never going to be worth much^^ -- so it doesn't seem to be worth it? By all means people build AU race cars, but are they usually not full-on V8 Supercar builds with centre-lock wheels, Holinger gearbox and individual butterflies and everything...? ^ (whether it is an old road going AU or an AU that had already been started on the V8 Supercar path like that BJR one, maybe one day when AUs are like XB hardtops it will be worth it?) ^^ (I don't think so anyway, maybe if they were official DJR or WAU replicas and had DJR or WAU chassis plates a bit like those brand new lightweight E-Types by Jaguar they will be worth something?) I think Brock's 1994 HRT VP is being done as a Concours restoration from the ground up (it had to be, as it was that far gone), but if the builder had started with a road car VP shell, put a roll cage in it and then sourced all the rare Harrop bits and HRT bits (and made perfect reproductions of unavailable bits, even carbon bits, as they have done which is very impressive), I don't think it would be worth it -- as arguably it's only worth doing the Brock car, as it's a genuine HRT VP (and a Brock car of course)? There are a lot great VP replica touring cars, but mostly they have a stroker motor, road car gearbox, road car rear end and so on... Which is great! A full on V8 Supercar replica with all the expensive parts, seems like a much bigger commitment, and possibly not worth it unless there is the history of the car being an actual touring car.
@@TassieLorenzo What I tried to say was a simple version of what you wrote. By fixing the chassis rail, the door jams etc, the history is gone, it's no longer a GSR car, it could a generic AU.
I'm all for leaving the racing history/story in the car. It's a rare thing to find a car from that era that hasn't been raced and bent and patched for many years after being retired from the main series. I think you have a rare and special opportunity here.
all the extra bar work and some remaining battle scars are all part of the history of this car. it would be good to retain all of this history as it is part its racing lifem the not so perfect rear section of chassis i am sure would have been replaced/repaired it if was deemed necessary back in the day.
if it was concourse restoration, then sure, replace the damage, but for what this restoration is, i would 100% leave it in. it is a story restoration, the parts tell part of its life. the only concern about the door jamb is the restoration points for qtr panels and keeping the strength of them, so maybe some plate or welds might be needed to strengthen the points.
I’d leave the kink from Canberra in the car. I was torn about the additional bars in the front but if you leave the Canberra damage in, logically I’d have to leave the bar work in ay.
Wouldn't that make it the AU Falcon in the Gran Turismo video games. The only v8 supercar in Gran Turismo. I hope that's the livery it end up going to. From Gran Turismo 3 to Gran Turismo 6. Once it's finished maybe Polyphony can Scan it and put it back in for Gran Turismo 7? Love your work.
If I was ever fortunate enough to be able to restore such a vehicle to the point of actually rebirthing it, everything would be brand new. No bends , no kinks, perfect body. Document and photograph what you have now but if you want originality, those deformities and panel wear did not exist when the car rolled out of GSR. Fixing that chassis kink is a big job but it’s gone this far. At the end of the day it rolled in a BA. I’d just like to know the thing was as perfect as I could make it. Still having a chassis kink isn’t really a value adder to me.
Is it fair to say that whoever repaired the car did a half arsed job it looks dodgy. Wouldn’t sub standard repair work affect the quality and performance of the car.
You've got to remember these cars were damaged often, and repaired quickly. It's surprising it's not much worse and is actually in quite good condition. By the time all those bars are added, that rail section is nothing more than a backing to hold the floor sheetmetal to. Not structural. You can do something chassis kinks like that as easily as having one off on the track and smacking the underside of the car on a ripple strip. It's just folded sheetmetal.
@@LGAustralia yeah I didn’t think about that I just assumed everything was checked and repaired properly between rounds you know roll out a kind of fresh clean serviced car for a new weekend of racing.
The fact that the car never fell to a Super2 team to be gutted and reworked, thereby losing that connection to its V8SC history, is a blessing. Whatever isn't a safety or structural integrity issue, keep it original I reckon.
Love these vids, mate. Look forward to the next one.
@@sonofagroove thanks for your thoughts and support mate 👍
Heres my 2c worth about the chassis rail dent. If it was my car and it had passed scrutineering for the last 4 years and the powers to be are happy with it as it is, then I'd leave it alone . Good luck with the build, it will be a credit to you when its done.
@@philb386 thanks mate, it’s 100% safe it’s purely a cosmetic thing 👍
What's a car without the story?
Jack left bits of story in the 03 rebuild...
Thanks for saving these cars & sharing the ongoing story 👍
Keep all the bar work that was a performance gain and remove the ride car changes,
It was awesome to see how a original build was modified to keep up with the rest of the pack
@@bena6852 for sure mate that’s the plan 👍
I would leave as much original sheet metal in the car as possible and would also leave the additional cage bars that were added during it's actual competition life
And as an AU fan, it's interesting to see the difference between the inner panels of a series 1 AU and the later version on the donor car at around the 5m30s mark
@@DaveTVch95 thanks mate 👍
My thoughts, if it ain't broke don't fix it. If it is broken, repair it. If it's not cost effective to repair, then replace it. It's a race car at the end of the day and a cool one at that, it's got to live on. Keep up the good work.
@@daleandkatecarstein588 thanks for your input and support mate 👍
Cheers for letting us follow along
I think keeping the rough-and-tumble history and story of the car, but with the 2000 livery as it rolled out is fantastic! I hope you have enough sheet metal still there around that rear door to get a new quarter panel on one more time (one last time, hopefully)!
@@TassieLorenzo I’m sure we can make it work 👍
Loving the updates. I'd keep anything that the car raced with, bars, dints etc, as long as it was structurally sound.
100% leave it. It's part of its story.
Thanks for taking us on the journey.
@@jaa171 thanks for your support mate 👍
Keep as much as you can because this is the car
Cheers, and thanks for creating and sharing with us.
I am looking forward to this car being fully restored and completed.
@@bill13690 thanks mate, me too!
This channel is brilliant and I really appreciate your efforts in documenting everything. If only there were a Holden equivalent…?
@@randalpapadum1312 never say never mate, might need to win the lotto first!
I'd replace the the rear sheet metal including the C pillar etc. whilst you've got the whole AU donor, the cage and chassis are what's important.
If I owned it, I'd want it as it was last raced when Glenn was an owner-driver (livery is irrelevant as they're just stickers) .
If I wanted a concourse AU race car, I'd start with something like the donor car.
"If I wanted a concourse AU race car, I'd start with something like the donor car." I don't think anyone will though. There was a BJR AU shell for sale, just a shell with no cage but it already had the tubbed wheelarches and modifications for diff and gearbox clearance, it was pretty cheap (it was $3k IIRC)...
But even then the cost of the running gear like the Holinger and the race-spec engine with the trumpets is so much greater than the cost of a AU bodyshell^ at this point in time, and with no race history even if it's a perfect V8 Supercar recreation it's never going to be worth much^^ -- so it doesn't seem to be worth it?
By all means people build AU race cars, but are they usually not full-on V8 Supercar builds with centre-lock wheels, Holinger gearbox and individual butterflies and everything...?
^ (whether it is an old road going AU or an AU that had already been started on the V8 Supercar path like that BJR one, maybe one day when AUs are like XB hardtops it will be worth it?)
^^ (I don't think so anyway, maybe if they were official DJR or WAU replicas and had DJR or WAU chassis plates a bit like those brand new lightweight E-Types by Jaguar they will be worth something?)
I think Brock's 1994 HRT VP is being done as a Concours restoration from the ground up (it had to be, as it was that far gone), but if the builder had started with a road car VP shell, put a roll cage in it and then sourced all the rare Harrop bits and HRT bits (and made perfect reproductions of unavailable bits, even carbon bits, as they have done which is very impressive), I don't think it would be worth it -- as arguably it's only worth doing the Brock car, as it's a genuine HRT VP (and a Brock car of course)?
There are a lot great VP replica touring cars, but mostly they have a stroker motor, road car gearbox, road car rear end and so on... Which is great! A full on V8 Supercar replica with all the expensive parts, seems like a much bigger commitment, and possibly not worth it unless there is the history of the car being an actual touring car.
@@TassieLorenzo What I tried to say was a simple version of what you wrote.
By fixing the chassis rail, the door jams etc, the history is gone, it's no longer a GSR car, it could a generic AU.
I'm all for leaving the racing history/story in the car.
It's a rare thing to find a car from that era that hasn't been raced and bent and patched for many years after being retired from the main series.
I think you have a rare and special opportunity here.
Leave the dash bars and leave the little witness marks it’s the car’s history 👍👍
all the extra bar work and some remaining battle scars are all part of the history of this car. it would be good to retain all of this history as it is part its racing lifem the not so perfect rear section of chassis i am sure would have been replaced/repaired it if was deemed necessary back in the day.
I’d leave the chassis rail dent and any bar work that it raced with.
For sure the main cockpit structure really should be as stock as possible, it's only original once
if it was concourse restoration, then sure, replace the damage, but for what this restoration is, i would 100% leave it in. it is a story restoration, the parts tell part of its life. the only concern about the door jamb is the restoration points for qtr panels and keeping the strength of them, so maybe some plate or welds might be needed to strengthen the points.
@@nathanhigginson6256 thanks for your input mate 👍
Fantastic
Long live the mighty AU 🇦🇺
Like you I would keep the damage in. It is part of the cars story. We all know it is a restoration and was used extensively.
@@delfwagoindustries9772 thanks mate
Love these vids. Leave the kink in rail & other minor damage.
Leave the bruises. If it doesn't raise a safety concern. These cars are from one of the greatest eras of Supercars.
@@TastierBackInThe80s no safety issue at all, purely cosmetic in parts you can’t see 👍
I’d leave the kink from Canberra in the car. I was torn about the additional bars in the front but if you leave the Canberra damage in, logically I’d have to leave the bar work in ay.
If it doesnt compromise the restoration leave it in, gotta keep all of the history in the car.
Do the repairs. The car still keeps the stories. The Group C STP Commodore (Elvis) has had everything but a strut tower replaced but it's still Elvis.
@@darrenfortuyn6717 good point! 👍
I'm for rebuilding it to new condition.
Wouldn't that make it the AU Falcon in the Gran Turismo video games. The only v8 supercar in Gran Turismo. I hope that's the livery it end up going to. From Gran Turismo 3 to Gran Turismo 6. Once it's finished maybe Polyphony can Scan it and put it back in for Gran Turismo 7? Love your work.
If I was ever fortunate enough to be able to restore such a vehicle to the point of actually rebirthing it, everything would be brand new. No bends , no kinks, perfect body. Document and photograph what you have now but if you want originality, those deformities and panel wear did not exist when the car rolled out of GSR. Fixing that chassis kink is a big job but it’s gone this far. At the end of the day it rolled in a BA. I’d just like to know the thing was as perfect as I could make it. Still having a chassis kink isn’t really a value adder to me.
@@phelanpawly2507 interesting thought process 👍
If it’s not a safety issue then leave it in place
as original as possible
Leave it
Is it fair to say that whoever repaired the car did a half arsed job it looks dodgy.
Wouldn’t sub standard repair work affect the quality and performance of the car.
@@shannonbugeja3746 a lot of what you see is cosmetic only. Even the rail has no real affect, all the point to point measurements are in place 👍
You've got to remember these cars were damaged often, and repaired quickly. It's surprising it's not much worse and is actually in quite good condition. By the time all those bars are added, that rail section is nothing more than a backing to hold the floor sheetmetal to. Not structural. You can do something chassis kinks like that as easily as having one off on the track and smacking the underside of the car on a ripple strip. It's just folded sheetmetal.
@@V8SupercarResto I didn’t think about that I just assumed everything was checked and repaired between rounds.
@@LGAustralia yeah I didn’t think about that I just assumed everything was checked and repaired properly between rounds you know roll out a kind of fresh clean serviced car for a new weekend of racing.