Misspoke and made a typo at 2:00, was reading up about the other specs of these machines and accidentally wrote 1620. Meant to type 2697, this was the 12 Core, not the 4 Core. Sorry! 🫠
I actually have two trashcan Mac Pros. I acquired the first in late 2022, and the second a couple of months ago. I've upgraded both with 64 GB of RAM, NVMe SSDs (2 TB in one, and 1 TB in the other) and 3 GHz ten-core CPUs, and they run extremely well. I'm especially proud of the CPU upgrades; it's fiddly but straightforward, and the non-standard CPUs I installed are better-value than Apple's official configurations. You could order a 3 GHz Mac Pro from Apple, but with eight cores; the 3 GHz CPUs I installed have ten! I run 10.14 Mojave on my Mac Pros (and most of my Intel Macs), and I run my main (2 TB) trashcan with a Blackmagic eGPU that I found for a bargain price. While the eGPU's Radeon Pro 580 graphics performance is significantly lower than my 2010 cheesegrater Mac Pro's RX 580 (likely due to the Thunderbolt 2 bottleneck), the eGPU still performs much better than the internal D300s.
Don’t doubt it runs better, these FirePros even on the high end of what was offered simply haven’t aged well at all. They’re still capable, but not of much. I’ll revisit this machine down the line with an eGPU and see if there’s any other options to squeeze some performance out of this machine, as I said I think this is still a very good machine if you look past the GPUs.
Nice! I’m planning on getting a second one. I have a 12 core, 64 GB, D700 and 1TB SSD one. I was thinking of downgrading to the 10 core, but given the very little difference in clock speed between the two I don’t know if it’s worth it. Also I’d like to upgrade to NVME. I heard I can get double read and write speeds compared to what I get now. How is your 10 core holding up?
@@MFEeee My trashcan's ten-core CPU runs extremely well. :) I wouldn't say there's a 'very little difference in clock speed' between the ten and twelve-core CPUs - 300 MHz (3 GHz vs 2.7 GHz) is small but significant. My trashcan still has the base D300 GPUs, which I'm not interested in upgrading. I'd just be replacing a very specialised workstation GPU for another, and I've heard that the D500s and D700s tend to fail. Besides, my eGPU is a great upgrade.
It would’ve been dope if it had dual fan. The top one is good to draw out hot air, but if it had another one at the base to blow cold air updward, it would definitely improve temperatures
Nice video man! I have the same trashcan version but my cs isn't running as well as your in video, how did you update the drivers? Did you use the default ones or updated it from AMD drivers site?
having 128gb ram means the ram speed runs at 1066Mhz rather than 1866Mhz this can affect performance on some games. So installing 64gb should be installed for better overall gaming performance. Though I doubt doing this would change the conclusion of this video.
I mean in terms of industrial design I'd say yes, this was the last big risk Apple took (to date). But in terms of the underlying engineering, Apple ditching Intel has had a seismic effect on the entire computer industry, whether you use Apple hardware or not. I'd call that a pretty daring move.
100% agree, their silicon has been a huge gamble that’s paid dividends and the advancements of Windows on ARM most likely doesn’t happen if not for Apple making the leap. From a design perspective however for the box they were limited to given the hardware they had to pack into this thing, this was a huge risk that unfortunately didn’t pay off. It’s like the spiritual successor to the PowerMac G4 Cube which makes it so unfortunate that it had the same fate. In retrospect it feels like a statement piece that Apple could do something different in the post Jobs era.
That’s something I considered doing in a part 2 later on. When making this video i presumed eGPUs would have very limited to no support at all on these machines but found out soon after uploading these things can handle a pretty decent eGPU. Thought of making some sort of supercharging type video or something like “Building the Ultimate Trash Can Mac Pro” but will have to do some research as to what the absolute best thing this machine can handle. Definitely will be something I make though.
@@eternaliam I read somewhere that the 5000 series gpu is the top gpu the trash can can handle, but recently heard there are some online that are taking advantage of the AMD 6000 series. I think I gotta look into it more, especially since I’m a huge fan of Apple. It just seems like Apple has been passed over in terms of innovation. Unheard of just 10 years ago it seems. But nice video my friend. Keep it up
Misspoke and made a typo at 2:00, was reading up about the other specs of these machines and accidentally wrote 1620. Meant to type 2697, this was the 12 Core, not the 4 Core. Sorry! 🫠
Ironically, I feel like the Trash Can design would have worked really well for Apple Silicon / the Ultra chips
Yes!
Agree, the Apple Studio is in may ways the successor to this machine.
I actually have two trashcan Mac Pros. I acquired the first in late 2022, and the second a couple of months ago.
I've upgraded both with 64 GB of RAM, NVMe SSDs (2 TB in one, and 1 TB in the other) and 3 GHz ten-core CPUs, and they run extremely well. I'm especially proud of the CPU upgrades; it's fiddly but straightforward, and the non-standard CPUs I installed are better-value than Apple's official configurations. You could order a 3 GHz Mac Pro from Apple, but with eight cores; the 3 GHz CPUs I installed have ten!
I run 10.14 Mojave on my Mac Pros (and most of my Intel Macs), and I run my main (2 TB) trashcan with a Blackmagic eGPU that I found for a bargain price. While the eGPU's Radeon Pro 580 graphics performance is significantly lower than my 2010 cheesegrater Mac Pro's RX 580 (likely due to the Thunderbolt 2 bottleneck), the eGPU still performs much better than the internal D300s.
Don’t doubt it runs better, these FirePros even on the high end of what was offered simply haven’t aged well at all. They’re still capable, but not of much.
I’ll revisit this machine down the line with an eGPU and see if there’s any other options to squeeze some performance out of this machine, as I said I think this is still a very good machine if you look past the GPUs.
Nice! I’m planning on getting a second one. I have a 12 core, 64 GB, D700 and 1TB SSD one. I was thinking of downgrading to the 10 core, but given the very little difference in clock speed between the two I don’t know if it’s worth it. Also I’d like to upgrade to NVME. I heard I can get double read and write speeds compared to what I get now. How is your 10 core holding up?
@@MFEeee
My trashcan's ten-core CPU runs extremely well. :)
I wouldn't say there's a 'very little difference in clock speed' between the ten and twelve-core CPUs - 300 MHz (3 GHz vs 2.7 GHz) is small but significant.
My trashcan still has the base D300 GPUs, which I'm not interested in upgrading. I'd just be replacing a very specialised workstation GPU for another, and I've heard that the D500s and D700s tend to fail. Besides, my eGPU is a great upgrade.
What if - An ice bucket core in the middle. Beer time😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What game was that with the ball
rocket league
It would’ve been dope if it had dual fan. The top one is good to draw out hot air, but if it had another one at the base to blow cold air updward, it would definitely improve temperatures
courage
Nice video man!
I have the same trashcan version but my cs isn't running as well as your in video, how did you update the drivers? Did you use the default ones or updated it from AMD drivers site?
Thanks!
I’m not sure what the discrepancy is caused by. I did use the driver off the AMD site just to make sure it was on the latest official drivers.
You also can install Xeon E5-2697V2 in this machine.
That is what was in here. I made a typo and misspoke :/
having 128gb ram means the ram speed runs at 1066Mhz rather than 1866Mhz this can affect performance on some games. So installing 64gb should be installed for better overall gaming performance. Though I doubt doing this would change the conclusion of this video.
I mean in terms of industrial design I'd say yes, this was the last big risk Apple took (to date). But in terms of the underlying engineering, Apple ditching Intel has had a seismic effect on the entire computer industry, whether you use Apple hardware or not. I'd call that a pretty daring move.
100% agree, their silicon has been a huge gamble that’s paid dividends and the advancements of Windows on ARM most likely doesn’t happen if not for Apple making the leap. From a design perspective however for the box they were limited to given the hardware they had to pack into this thing, this was a huge risk that unfortunately didn’t pay off. It’s like the spiritual successor to the PowerMac G4 Cube which makes it so unfortunate that it had the same fate. In retrospect it feels like a statement piece that Apple could do something different in the post Jobs era.
With Minecraft it seems you only allocated 2 GB of ram to it. Try allocating more and I’m pretty sure you will see a significant boost to performance
Can’t believe I missed that, thanks for pointing it out.
For minecraft to run better we can usé sodium and lithium mods
Short answer, no
How about an egpu? Something like a 5900x, if I’m not mistaken
That’s something I considered doing in a part 2 later on. When making this video i presumed eGPUs would have very limited to no support at all on these machines but found out soon after uploading these things can handle a pretty decent eGPU. Thought of making some sort of supercharging type video or something like “Building the Ultimate Trash Can Mac Pro” but will have to do some research as to what the absolute best thing this machine can handle. Definitely will be something I make though.
@@eternaliam I read somewhere that the 5000 series gpu is the top gpu the trash can can handle, but recently heard there are some online that are taking advantage of the AMD 6000 series. I think I gotta look into it more, especially since I’m a huge fan of Apple. It just seems like Apple has been passed over in terms of innovation. Unheard of just 10 years ago it seems. But nice video my friend. Keep it up
its not the fastest on there is the 12 core cpu version
This is the 12 Core. I made a mistake and misspoke. :/