Who Was Stokely Carmichael? with Paul Berman

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  • Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
  • Stokely Carmichael, later known as Kwame Ture, was a significant figure in the American Civil Rights Movement and the global Black Power movement. Born on June 29, 1941, in Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago, he moved to the U.S. with his family when he was 11 and grew up in the Bronx, New York.
    Carmichael became politically active during his time at Howard University, where he joined the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC). He initially advocated for nonviolent civil disobedience, participating in Freedom Rides and other desegregation efforts. However, by the mid-1960s, Carmichael grew frustrated with the slow progress of nonviolent activism and the persistent racial inequalities in the U.S.
    In 1966, while serving as the chairman of SNCC, Carmichael popularized the term "Black Power" during a march in Mississippi. Black Power called for racial dignity, economic and political self-sufficiency, and the rejection of white paternalism. His embrace of this more militant stance marked a shift from the integrationist goals of the Civil Rights Movement towards a focus on Black autonomy and empowerment. This ideology was seen as more radical than that of leaders like Martin Luther King Jr., who emphasized nonviolence and integration.
    Carmichael later joined the Black Panther Party and became its honorary Prime Minister. His internationalist perspective deepened as he connected the struggles of African Americans with those of oppressed people worldwide. In the late 1960s, Carmichael moved to Africa, living in Guinea, where he adopted the name Kwame Ture in honor of African leaders Kwame Nkrumah of Ghana and Ahmed Sékou Touré of Guinea.
    Throughout his life, Ture continued advocating for Pan-Africanism, the unity of African people across the globe, and socialist principles. He wrote influential books such as "Black Power: The Politics of Liberation" (co-authored with Charles V. Hamilton) and "Stokely Speaks: From Black Power to Pan-Africanism". Ture remained politically active until his death in 1998, working to advance the causes of racial justice, anti-imperialism, and African liberation.
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Комментарии • 79

  • @benqurayza7872
    @benqurayza7872 4 месяца назад +20

    No Harvard or Columbia student can credibly claim s/he doesn't know which river and which sea.

    • @wadetisthammer3612
      @wadetisthammer3612 4 месяца назад +7

      Don't underestimate the ignorance of some of these students. It's possible to be very smart in one area but be profoundly ignorant in another.

    • @willard39
      @willard39 4 месяца назад +3

      I disagree. These kids are supporting a narrative and that alone. That requires a dedication to intellectual laziness or outright disregard for facts.

    • @francisjo3
      @francisjo3 4 месяца назад +2

      @@wadetisthammer3612 More than possible, I daresay it's commonplace!

    • @jon123xyz
      @jon123xyz 4 месяца назад

      Interviews I have seen with some indicate they could not pass a reasonable high school history class. Maybe such no longer exist.

    • @placebojesus5652
      @placebojesus5652 4 месяца назад

      But they can say the Palestine should be free from the West Bank on the Jordan River to Gaza on the Mediterranean Sea but not necessarily mean “Palestine” is then contiguous and takes all the land in between. Sure some would like that but that’s not what anyone who’s not an idiot thinks is feasible at all at this point, yet the Israeli right-wing particularly Netanyahu’s Likud Party sabotaged all efforts to make this happen and reach a peace agreement since Clinton was in office where center-left Israeli PM Rabin was assassinated. You guys focus on irrelevant fringe extreme idiots on social media and call that “the left” as if they resemble the left that’s actually in significant power in any form in US political office or the donor class. It’s ridiculous.

  • @batcivic
    @batcivic 3 месяца назад +4

    So he was a useful idiot. Take the discussion further into the Socialists. The blame is all there.

  • @Tewhill357
    @Tewhill357 4 месяца назад +4

    A hard distinction between Good SC and Bad SC seems to rely on magical thinking.

  • @megsley
    @megsley 4 месяца назад +3

    oh god for a moment i was like "the heel manager from AEW?!"
    nope thats stokely hathaway lol

  • @ef2718
    @ef2718 4 месяца назад +10

    Zionism is the independent existence of Jews in Jewdea.
    The first leader to lead the Israelis back to independent living in Zion was Prophet Moses AS, he was the first Zionist leader.

    • @cybrarian9
      @cybrarian9 4 месяца назад +1

      Spelled "Judea" twinned with Samaria.

    • @ef2718
      @ef2718 4 месяца назад

      @@cybrarian9
      Both are transliteration
      Judea is in Latin
      Jews is in English

    • @cybrarian9
      @cybrarian9 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ef2718 common spelling. “Judea” comes from the tribe of “Judah.”

    • @ef2718
      @ef2718 4 месяца назад

      @@cybrarian9 Yehuda >iudea >Judea

    • @cybrarian9
      @cybrarian9 4 месяца назад

      @@ef2718 my point is you first spelled it “Jewdea” and that’s wrong.

  • @visionaerie
    @visionaerie 3 месяца назад +3

    So is this video saying that you can't give the Palestinians a state(an actual independent state, not perpetually besieged by the IDF) without depopulating Israel?
    Are you saying to have Israel as a state means to keep the Palestinians stateless?
    The fact that the Palestinians are stateless is one of the reasons they are so vulnerable to genocide. They have nowhere to run.

    • @Ratryggva1090
      @Ratryggva1090 3 месяца назад

      The fact that they keep trying to kill their neighbors gives them no place to run. They tried to overthrow Jordan and Egypt before Israel.

    • @woobiefuntime
      @woobiefuntime 3 месяца назад +3

      They aren't stateless . They have Jordan

    • @visionaerie
      @visionaerie 3 месяца назад

      That's like telling homeless people in America.... "they're not homeless because they have a shelter"

    • @woobiefuntime
      @woobiefuntime 3 месяца назад +3

      @@visionaerie Jordan was the state for those Arabs. Many got kicked out because they tried to over throw the kingdom in the 70s

  • @Beretta249
    @Beretta249 4 месяца назад +3

    Yeah the heidegger and gibson tangent was really unnecessary. Even for an "upmarket" audience. Plus the actual anti-semitic apologia. Maybe don't do that. When it comes to inciting g3nocide the art doesn't make up for the artist. "I love your analogies " means _"I can't f*cking believe you actually said that to my face."_
    I like this interviewer (Jonothan Kay) normally, but this time Quilette needed a quality check. Digging that hole began with f*cking _heidegger,_ and then _mel gibson,_ and maybe should have stopped there?

  • @PecosChico
    @PecosChico 4 месяца назад +7

    How far is it from chanting the slogans to acting them out?

    • @Behave_New_1984
      @Behave_New_1984 4 месяца назад +4

      It's no difference anymore. The arab world have been acting this out since the beginning of islam.

    •  3 месяца назад

      5 min

  • @Behave_New_1984
    @Behave_New_1984 4 месяца назад +4

    This show sounds like a pseudo-intellectual antisemitism apologetics roadshow...

  • @Judah-pl7zg
    @Judah-pl7zg 2 дня назад

    If I tell the truth above Stokely C., I'll be banned. RIP

  • @colettechausser7879
    @colettechausser7879 3 месяца назад +3

    Zionism and Judaism are not the same.

    • @Thenewbronzeagecollapse
      @Thenewbronzeagecollapse 3 месяца назад +2

      Did you study the Torah? The Mishnah? The Talmud? Do you know what you're talking about??? Secular Zionism originated among the many post-enlightenment Resurgence movements, plus religious Zionism. It's not “ethno-nationalism”. It's a self-determination movement for the people in Israel in general.

    • @kenshinxxx9385
      @kenshinxxx9385 22 дня назад

      @@Thenewbronzeagecollapsesame argument settler christians used in manifest destiny. Weaponizing religion for the settler project

    • @ddoubleu170
      @ddoubleu170 7 дней назад

      Yes 🎯 THIS!!!

  • @Oliver-jg8og
    @Oliver-jg8og 3 месяца назад

    I just thought of something. Maybe, you don't support people who wants to destroy everything, and it wont come back and bite you in the ass? Just a thought. I hope Mr. Paul feels at least slightly uncomfortable with his lives "work".

  • @Lev-t2t
    @Lev-t2t 4 месяца назад +1

    I guess I'm a bad Zionist 😂

  • @visionaerie
    @visionaerie 3 месяца назад

    Do Palestinians get an independent state?

  • @phillipmargrave
    @phillipmargrave 4 месяца назад +4

    Intifada means world wide socialist revolution.

    • @jon123xyz
      @jon123xyz 4 месяца назад +1

      Just because it is Arabic and used by Islamic extremists does not mean it is Islamic😂. Must have been created by the PFLP I guess.

    • @elormanskeybanaiy2058
      @elormanskeybanaiy2058 Месяц назад

      No it isn't. It mean Murdering all the people that are not radical Islamists

  • @findbridge1790
    @findbridge1790 Месяц назад

    british agent. like you.

  • @Behave_New_1984
    @Behave_New_1984 4 месяца назад +1

    Wagner and good music? Lol... Just check what his contemporaries had to say / write (and even compose) about Wagner 😂

    • @Hesnotoneofus
      @Hesnotoneofus 4 месяца назад

      lol wtf do you live as contrarian because you too scared to hold real opinions? Wagner is obviously incredible music despite his antisemitism and racism... I would think that Stephen Fry Has better taste that you...

  • @AlexUmali-nz9pe
    @AlexUmali-nz9pe 3 месяца назад +2

    To criticize Zionism is not anti-semitic.

    • @rachelklein6999
      @rachelklein6999 3 месяца назад +2

      Go ahead them prove it. Criticize the belief that Jews have a right to self determination without being antisemitic, enlighten us, please.

    • @colettechausser7879
      @colettechausser7879 3 месяца назад +2

      Do you mean the people of the faith, or the apartheid state that's commiting genocide? Anyhow isn't it because your ancestors didn't keep the faith being the reason they lost the promised land? I'm going theological, if I'm wrong, please enlighten me. I'm still learning.

    • @rachelklein6999
      @rachelklein6999 3 месяца назад

      @@colettechausser7879 What are you talking about?
      The only apartheid is in Arab controlled areas where Jews are not allowed, as opposed to Israel, where 2 million Arabs live with full citizenship, and have since 1948.
      There is no genocide, full stop, that is a blood libel and it paints you in an ugly way. A war was started, they chose the war, to take hostages and to hide in tunnels while. Don;t start a war, support it, and cry when you lose.
      The Jews lost CONTROL of Israel for being hateful to one another. It had nothing to do with not keeping the faith.
      Any other questions?

  • @sshender3773
    @sshender3773 4 месяца назад +5

    I find it somewhat amusing that both men here are seriously discussing certain things without even understanding their meaning first. "Globalize the Intifadah" doesn't mean let's do Jewish pogroms, suicide bombings and murder Jews around the world. For those chanting it, the Intifadah is not synonymous with that campaign of terrorism and carnage that we have grown to associate that word with during the second intifada. For them, Intifada (literally translated from Arabic as shaking off) means the unshackling of the "downtrodden" from their colonial masters. It's hardly news that these people view Israel as a settler collonial state imposed by the white imperialists unto the indigenous Arab population, and the Intifada as the righteous and inevitable pushback against that "colonial" project. They see the resistance embodied in the intifada as the ultimate goal to be globalized and repeated across the world. In their feverish minds, colonialism has morphed into corporate, rather than state, colonialism so there are always things to rebel against and shakles to shake off.
    Strawmanning this doesn't help anyone.

    • @dogbert52
      @dogbert52 4 месяца назад +7

      Cool. So you inveneted a straw man and then went against straw manning..... thats the new trick?

    • @sshender3773
      @sshender3773 4 месяца назад +1

      @@dogbert52 What straw man did I invent, oh wise one?

    • @jon123xyz
      @jon123xyz 4 месяца назад +7

      Keep telling yourself that. Islam is famous for its anti colonialism 😂

    • @sshender3773
      @sshender3773 4 месяца назад

      @@jon123xyz you are sorely mistaken if you think that these slogans are the exclusive abode of Muslims in the West. Rather, it has its roots deeply embedded in Western radical leftist thought.

    • @BalticNixe1234
      @BalticNixe1234 4 месяца назад +5

      What ignorant people think Intifada means is irrelevant. Those who coined the term attached a demand to it and that is all that counts. Just as anti-Semitism means hatred of Jews and not hatred of all Semitic people. Wilhelm Marr did not blame the Arabs for the economic crisis in 1873.
      I wonder if the people who talk about colonialism and declare the Arabs to be the indigenous people of the Levant, which is factually incorrect, know who coined these theses. Maybe you could look into Radio Zeesen and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al-Husseini.

  • @JonathanRossRogers
    @JonathanRossRogers 4 месяца назад

    I'm used to seeing extreme anti-Zionist comments on RUclips videos. Apparently, the opposite exists as well.