Let's Chat: Days Gone/Syphon Filter Director John Garvin
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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Jaffe is badass. Glad he's staying consistent w/content. Colin x Jaffe are some of the best episodes of Sacred Symbols. Legend!
What a great long chat with Garvin!
Yes indeed!
Jaffe and John are the uncles of the community here. When in company and an issue to talk about...all goes up the shits. In a good way! I enjoy the conversations, banter, agrees and disagrees. Good fucking times!
I'm the smart uncle. :)
Thanks for days gone john!!
Man how I would love if we actually got a regular appearance of Garvin, the dude has so many stories to tell and his repartee with Jaffe is extremely entertaining.
Days gone is an amazing game!! It only took me 60 hours to play all the way through, solid length! If bends next game fails they either be a support studio, get shuttered or maybe be smart and make #daysgone2
garvin was right about unions moving past just QA. bethesda game studios just unionized with the CWA. 241 employees came together, with artists, engineers, and programmers being amongst the group, which is really cool see! hope it works out for them
Had a blast with days gone 😌
I love all things Kojima, but I'd still buy a new mainline MGS entry without him.
I agree with you as long as they stayed true to the lore cuz we both know that Konami is gonna be trying to do what Capcom has been doing for the past 5 yrs and thats remaking beloved titles that fans love and Konami wants to get in on that which imo it's a smart move and the stats proved it during the last metal Gear hotline and once Kojima is done OD DS2 DS movie and project physint
I do believe Kojima will collaborate with Konami to make a brand new Metal Gear but we'll see time will tell
I just can't do it knowing what they do with all the casino machines and such. something about them using that money for that stuff bothers me, but the same time I don't blame anyone. MGS just so damn dope. How can anyone not be tempted. That being said, even if kojima did something with konami again, I'd still have to think about it. Konami just leaves such a bad taste.
Days Gone was really good, ill just say that.
What John & Jaffe have backward about the perceived dichotomy betwixt Hollywood Screenwriters and Video Game Narrative Designers is that no lowly writer in the history of the world has held onto an IP entirely. We have something called 'Chain of Title' in Screenwriting that John ignores with his argument-while working on WGA-signatory productions, we have rights, but we own nothing unless we own the studio that is producing the IP. His bloviations about creative rights are adorable from an Entertainment Law POV.
John is a case in point in what chaos might ensue if we did retain ownership-he is lucky that Bend hasn't become pissed in a more meaningful way in the wake of his post-employment antics.
This is not to say that I don't think Game Narrative Designers don't deserve residuals.
Interesting to see that one month later all of Bethesda has now unionized. Gotta love it when statements like "We will never get unions in video games" are so instantly proven wrong. lol
Thanks jaffe! I appreciate you entertaining me with content I enjoy. I admit to trolling you once in a while, but even though I sometimes fiercely disagree with you, I respect your honesty with your audience about your thoughts and opinions
Since Playstation doesn't appreciate the BEST PS4 Game Days Gone, John Garvin should go to the GREENer Pastures of XBOX & make it's Spiritual Succesor. Same with Jaffe The PS3 Twisted Metal had BRILLIANT Game-Play & O.G. God of War is GOATed.
I was with you until you brought xbox up. Xbox has mistreated many of their developers like Arkane Studios who made the modern Wolfenstein games
You lost me at Best PS4 game?
Days gone doesn’t come close to GoW 2018, inFAMOUS: Second Son or even Spider-Man for that matter.
Maybe his ideas just arent that good...Bend was held back by his creative decisions imo. Totally agree with his takes on unionisation
You two are Masters of the Universe ! Good talk , thanks
I envy their friendship so much lol! Love it!
Also, Nic Cage is the shit. I've never been high, but wished I were when watching *Color Out Of Space*. Still, *Mandy*, that was spectacular...
I recall how I felt when days gone released, and I thought it was odd that a competing zombie game was coming out against Last of Us, in the downturn of zombie fiction (the walking dead), and had multiple delays. This is personally why I didn’t purchase it.
Day's Gone i bought day one, it was an incredible game, it was a major success but we all know why Sony didn't want a sequel.....Sony, and MS, trying to Platinum/1000g those ESG points.
Unfortunately there is a huge percentage of gamers that don't even care about story in games. Then there is a much smaller contingent that care about WHO writes those stories. I do, but I don't know a single person who even knows who Neil Druckman is. I played a few hours of Days Gone and found it largely forgettable but I do think creators should get more royalties for their work
Edit: excuse me Uncharted 3 was a steep drop off from 2? I think those games are remarkably close in quality and in my top 5 games of all time. Still very excited for Bruce's next game.
As I get older I have started to care less about story.
I don't hate it but if a game has a 10 - 20 mins cutscene which is then immediately followed by a slow walking section I turn it off I'm just over that $hit. I Rather play bloodborne,Elden ring or Doom
@@STOPTHECLOWNS581 I think that’s because stories in games are so milquetoast and cookie cutter. If they were more unique and daring, I’d have no problem with long cut scenes and stuff like that
@DavidJaffeGames 59:25 I am an architect as well as a game developer, and when it comes to owning house example, it's pretty much like IPs, you own the house but I own the design and plans and could (although it's dumb and ineffective) use them in other places and sell them. However if you pay for design and plan exclusivity, then your house and its design and plans are all yours (For much more money) and I feel like this is how the IP ownership should be in games. Like the base should be: Your name on the cover (if you're the designer or director, like Kojima) and IP ownership to you. You get paid more if the publisher wanted to remove your name and even more if they wanted to own your IP.
Interesting. But let me ask: if you are an architect that works for a firm and you design homes for the firm, are you saying you still own the house design even though you were paid by your firm to design the home? Because that would be an apples to apples comparison to me and John's relationship with Sony.
@DavidJaffeGames I mean it isn't apples to apples because we design based on environment, and location (wind sun and view) so it's pretty much useless but yeah we still own the design(you can only come up with so many solutions and creative designs after all). Although we kind of have to redo it from scratch (if we're using the company computers and stuff when we first did it, sometimes they also force materials on us if they have a collaboration or deal with some importer or manufacturer) and that's the case for houses and general designs in the Middle East (as far as i know) and Iraq. It might be different in the US. I don't know if the case is the same in skyscrapers or monuments. Again, an architect has the right to ask for more money if he's selling the concept and design ownership.
Played the PC version of Days Gone on Steam, great game.
I like the guy and like what he did in the gaming space, he ranted a little too much about unionizing the games industry. At least he didn’t rant about politics like Cliff Blezinski does, lol.
Jaffe, you need to make an extra effort to put out more content like this. I mean, I love the *weird show* and all, but whenever you make a deepdive like this...I'm there, because this is the the true shite where you get an extra life, after having made life, if that makes sense? (I missed the Live show though 😑). I loved the latest weird show with your daughter (lovely gal ❤...but her bloke seems to be a tad...not sure, I got a certain vibe from him, but as long he is not a serial killer 😅🤞), but the show was kinda inconsistent compared to this very informative and entertaining back-and-forth with the esteemed John Garvin (I assume Sara moved out of the house recently, and I'm sure that have made an impact on you).
Btw, I just started taking a new supplement. It is a white powder...I blend it up in a smoothie...it increased my energy like 130%...who needs Ozempic? Right? White powder is the F'ing best 😅
People would be MORE excited if Neil Druckman was fired from Naughty Dog.
Hard disagree. Druckman is a visionary and the jilted fans are either snowflakes or antisemitic.
@@punkrachmaninoff I know I'm not a snowflake, ex BAF three combat tours, so that leaves one of the only two options you gave, how is it antiemetic to dislike Druckmann? Sounds like you are projecting.
@@greengrugach1984 take a history class and open your eyes. Thank you for your service.
John is one of the coolest to ever do it. He made the only game on PS4 that was worth a shit ... But not just that. He gave Sony golden Abyss, Syphon filter, resistance retribution... The dude is legit and to hear him say he's broke is damn near criminal.
David, why don't you and John work on something together? You're woke as shit but I can separate the art from the artist long enough to support it.
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Thank you. It was a fun couple of decades making games.
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Jaffe is so condescending, it's unbearable.
Please be specific. Thx.
Good chat, this dude is a bitter bastard as he still needs to work and can’t retire, and lol wants to protects jobs but uses ai to do his work
Im bitter too, days gone really deserved better than sony has treated it
Justifiably so…an original game that got pigeon holed b/c of the “zombie game” label and some bugs that reviewers downgraded, but was so much more. An open world survival game with a kick ass bike mechanic, superb melee combat and interesting enemy features. I want him to keep this up. I really want the days gone graphic novel ala The Walking Dead.
Dude, I've been retired for years now. I use AI for personal work for which I have zero budget. And I'm not bitter, I'm having a blast painting, writing, traveling. So, you're wrong on every point, but thanks for playing!
@@jonnygman100 if your not bitter then you may want to rethink how you come across to others, I thank you for days gone, but rather than moan about the time just think what you gave and those you made happy -ps happy for playing
I find the conversation with John Garvin completely worthless. I recommend that you break off contact with John Garvin. It's a shame that John Garvin is someone like Björn Pankratz from Piranha Bytes.
The real HEROES of Days Gone are those who made the PC release in 2021 and who finished developing the game so that it can now be called a model example for Unreal Engine 4 and for the translation of Fallout 3 2008 Retro into Unreal Engine 4 and for the translation of Gothic 2 2002 (Chapter 2) Retro into Unreal Engine 4.
But you can't talk to John Garvin about Cookie Cutter and FALLOUT Spin-Off. So these 4 hours are a complete waste of time.
And who cares about the SONY world? FALLOUT 2024 and GOTHIC 1 REMAKE 2024, I hope, are the important topics of conversation in Germany. And GTA6 2025 is important for the black community.
And UBISOFT 2024 has attracted the LBGT community.
You sound completely unhinged, or are an AI.
@@Nergal134 I learned English just through unhinged content videos. I understand English fluently today through unhinged English content videos.
After 9 years of English at school, and visiting the USA, and tourism English, I couldn't understand any English at all.
When speaking English, I always use TTS, i.e. AI. Speak into the smart phone, and then translate with AI, and then let the smart phone speak English. I never speak English, so my own sentences may seem formal in English.
FYI, Days Gone was 100% developed on Unreal on the PC, so, the PC version was completed under my tenure. The bugs on the PS4 version were not under my control.
@@jonnygman100 I hope you and Bend Studio do another FALLOUT spin-off. Or you do Fallout 4 remake-reboot, or Fallout 5.
The gameplay trailer for "Gothic 1 Remake" is coming in 2 weeks.
I also find a Gothic remake without assets from Days Gone impossible, unimaginable.
I have been writing a lot of thoughts on the STEAM discussion platform with account "Totto" for a year now about how Bend Studio should and can implement FALLOUT, for example:
my REPEAT:
I hope "Bend Studio" doesn't waste time. Instead, they take the assets and use them to make Fallout 4 Remake Reboot or Fallout 5.
trivial:
these "breakers" are feral super mutants, implemented in Unreal Engine 4.
trival:
these "freaker swarmers" are the wiki/Trog from "The Pitt" Fallout 3, implemented in Unreal Engine 4.
In Fallout3 there is already this Trog horde, which then storms out of the sewers to attack all the raiders there.
trvial:
the shooter gameplay in Days Gone is the improved implementation of Fallout3 in Unreal Engine 4.
I dream of a 60 hour cookie cutter "Fallout" game in Unreal Engine 5.