Genuinely surprised that Cimo didn't bait Ruxin by starting with 'Ruxin, you had the HIGHEST amount of LP remaining after the Shadow Game.... BECAUSE THE OTHER TWO WENT TO 0!"
Exactly! It'd be such a great bait moment - you bait Ruxin to think he lost, you bait both of the others to think the other one won... Would be a really fun reveal.
The dichotomy between MBT, Gage, and APS's team doing the Dr Strange timeline reading to play around every potential card that could be set while the other team is like "why are they taking so long, its GOAT" and then immediately misplaying is so funny.
Hearing Gage and Joseph discuss counterplay for every card in the format and then eventually land on a play that loses to nothing, and cut over to Seereax claiming there's nothing to think about in GOAT... kinda felt like that was the end of the game just there
It just shows WHY people love GOAT. It isn't a braindead format, it is a thinking format, but about how to play with and against the opponent and judging what they have and don't have. While there is this in modern, it is MUCH more in GOAT.
Cimo's brain for creating games and series really shines here. Like the entire concept of that Chicken Game shadow game was so simple, but it's just a very different way to play the game we know and somehow it's way more entertaining than I expected. Love this series.
I think the fact that everyone thought that Ruxin would fall the moment they stepped into a Master Duel challenge and yet today he was the only one in his team who didn't take multiple Ls shows how Cimo's creativity in the challenges he creates can even the field so well while keeping it very entertaining and skillful. It keeps the series unpredictable and I love it.
@@diegopinto2090 I wish they went into the game 3, I wanted to see him play for real. But yeah these games have been balanced taking into account that Ruxin doesn't know much about modern cards at all. On the opposite side, they weren't balanced around the idea that some players like Paul really didn't know much about GOAT, he was lucky to be with two teammates that could guide his every move, otherwise it probably would have been a quick loss for him.
@@nintendokings Nah Paul was a vital part of the team. Him being able to admit his shortomings in goat format and listening to his teammates was what won them that first duel, we saw what happens when someone cant do that in this very episode
ahh yes a third round of the most boring shit where 2 guys hyper analyse the pros and cons of heavy storming 2 backrow and normal summing sangan for 6 minutes while their team mate might as well go make a sandwich is definitely what this two hour video needed
@@luluchroarhonestly me too. I was expecting a series of who can top deck a staple first but the amount of thought and analysis they put into each play was fantastic and very unexpected. Great games!
Honestly Paul contributet more than he gives himself credit for by just recognizing when someone else is better at somthing than you and letting them do it without needing to force you ideas through. That is a pretty good quality to have and one that seereax is lacking
@@SinamonX It also helps he said he was willing to Learn. He was actually listening and figuring out WHY they were doing stuff instead of just doing it because they said to.
For real, this could've gone very differently if Gage picked Seereax instead of Paul. Unless he was the anchor, there was no way Deion could handle having MBT and Gage brainstorm every move for several minutes.
Seereax doesn’t understand the concept of a team challenge or that his loss directing impacts the other two so that’s why they tried to give input. Dudes so self absorbed it would appear
I think you guys are being too harsh with Seereax, his impatence and stubbornness played a decent role in their loss but he did actually listen to his teammates and made some plays he disagreed with for the good of the team, not every turn but sometimes. Also I just wanna make sure you know he's not actually a complete asshole and most of the intense personality he lets through is part of a character and he does it for entertainment value, he wouldn't get invited to all these collabs if he was actually unpleasant to be around yknow
Joseph and gage finding the no lose end game was incredible. When he millennium eyed the snatch steal it was absolute peak. The confusion on team farfa over the defense Sorc was beautiful. They literally couldn’t process that they lost.
@@lilsunny7399 thats because he knew hes inexperienced in goat and let those two coach him to make sure he doesnt fuck up by making a silly misplay like farfa. better be humble and shut up than be arrogant and the reason your team lost.
@@uteriel282 I totally agree with your take, Farfa arguably the only one on the other team with any goat knowledge should have spoken more. Ruxin should’ve talked less as his goat series has nothing to do with chaos mirrors
There's a difference between knowledge and intelligence. They are extremely knowledgeable about Goat format, and went out of their way to explain both how and why they became as knowledgeable as they are about that format. They were all playing intelligently.
The gap between both teams is huge. Seereax refusing to co-operate with his teammates on the falsely-claimed basis (they're backseating), well: if you've never been on a team then sounds like a "you" problem. I very much liked the Ruxin later comment "I had to team up with these? Who lost to AI" it was sooo fitting. o7 to farfa.. will miss you. Amazing challenges from Cimo as always can't wait for future episodes ❤
This episode and by extension, the series, was SO FUN to watch. The tactical thinking and commentating, the polar opposite teams, the long watch time. It's just a joy
This series is still so good. I don't want this to end, but hope a sequel happens afterward. That match was nuts. The greatest irony is Ruxin being the best duelist on that team. Called the play stopping the advantage engine and got completely ignored.
The analogy I always use when talking about GOAT is think of every interaction you have as a hand trap and multiple turns as a one turn. You can't just be a blind caveman firing your Raigeki and summoning BLS, or you're gonna end up like you Ash'd the Reinoheart just for them to slam down Grief. You need to think through your lines, read what's in their hand, and find the optimal time to use your interactions to stop their momentum.
To be fair he did have some really nice ideas for the plays in Farfa’s game that could’ve given him more of an edge. Tsukuyomi would’ve been tributed for Parshath which either nets them an extra card or gets outed and BLS can hit the board which would’ve turned that into a whole other game. The fact he didn’t Breaker the Mirror Force was odd because at that point there’s no reason not to. I think he opted not to because Farfa said there was a world where he just beats over the set but I could be wrong.
Okay but can we talk about how cool it was to see Gage and MBT just completely analysing every possible play and putting down the perfect play every time? This is one of those moments you see the difference between a good play and a great one.
His ways are perfectly fine. Seereax has beaten Pak, Jesse, Sam, and Cimmoo all in Goat format. It's true he might not be up to date on the latest goat format strategies, but he absolutely can hold hsi own in the format. What doesn't help is when you have other people on your ear telling you how to play *your* deck. This would mess with anyone's head in a competitive setting. You even saw the stress eat away at Gage when he was playing until they started making critical mistakes.
@@NovusIgnis gage being stressed was warranted tht starting hand was without a doubt one of the worse starting hand you could have gotten with the deck and his next few draws before noc was also quite impressively does nothing. I'm sure seereax is an entertaining/good duelist ( i really do that parshaft idea was interesting and him pointing out tsukuyomis effect was also a sign of a person who actually reads lol) but him looking down at the format was what costed them the game not the backseating (and mostly the deck building really should have asked more advice on tht part)
@aiou_61 He doesn't look down on the format though. He was looking down on this particular style, where he isn't playing against another duelist, he just has the controls but it's his team versus their team. How the format should have been was both duelists get to play a normal game with normal time and their teammates are quiet so the players can actually focus. And then if they want to run an idea or a play by their team, only with the player's permission can the council weigh in. Everyone's commenting on Gage and MBT running through all the plays and possibilities but Seereax literally does the same thing in his Goat format videos. It just doesn't take him early as long because he's not running all of his plays by a committee. That's what really killed the mood this time, is no one person was playing any of these games, it was an entire team playing and that is not how this is designed to be. As for their decks, I agree that Seereax's deck was outdated into terms of the most recent theory and so on, but literally so was Farfa and Probably Ruxin's. They all designed their decks by committee too. It just so happens that MBT and Gage have played "official" goat format mroe recently than the other team so they had a leg up on strategy.
@@NovusIgnis I agree that the team play definitely killed the mood and the decks that team farfa had (which we can never see the entirety of expect for seereax) was quite outdated based on what we saw and I don't watch seereax personally so you can cmiiw but he doesn't seem to actually care wht cards that the other player is playing, he plays in a way that seems adapt and overcome ( if that happens I'll figure it out with wht I can draw and what I have ) rather then looking at it as a solved game like Ruxin has ( if this happens what can we do with what we have right now? And do we have something for the worse and the best outcomes? ) which Is definitely more goat format then the adapt and overcome attitude which is more in tune with playground ygo I agree tho the games should have been individual duels without the other discussing the play with maybe a time out in between to discuss steategies or something lol ( no offense to paul but tht was gage and mbt playing rather then Paul playing ) Time wise cimoo gave 900 seconds for them to discuss plays and they were meant to use that time to discuss the plays tht they should have made, team gage using what was given to them is not an advantage, team farfa not using it is a disadvantage (not sure if it's true but apparently goat format doendt have a time limit lol)
alex, joseph and gage are all pros in their own right with years of experience. the only time they seem dumb is when they play against each other cause theyre so close in terms of skill.
I love how you can see the polar opposite of today's dynamic between them in Dzeef's Master Saga series. Here they are in sync working with each other like best friends and brothers who look up to and respect each other. Meanwhile in Master Saga they act like two monkeys with knives yelling and insulting each other. It just shows how good they are at adapting for the shows they currently are participating in to keep them entertaining.
Gage and MBT are so good at GOAT. They made some great plays (with help of opponent misplays) with an absolute garbage of a hand. I love this format lol.
Cimo chose a downright devious setup for that Shadow Game. Spoilers... The CPU opponent's deck had decently high stat values on the cards, repeatable backrow removal and LP manipulation going both ways. I knew the burn was gonna catch at least one of them. The way that worked out was downright hilarious. Punish their arrogance!!!
This vid was 2 hours. If they had dueled with all 8, it probably would be 3+ hours lol it was the correct decision to wait for the amount of contestants to drop before dueling
@Atlantafan21 then again the main bulk of the video is because during seereax's duel the other team spent 5 years discussing each play and it wasn't limited to 300 seconds either
This isn't Cimo. I'm sure he had the entire series scheduled out before he even got the participants for it. This is on the players. Remember, in the previous two episodes, many of them explicitly said that they were targeting Josh and Sam because they saw those two as the big threats for any future battle-centric challenge.
One of the best episode so far, MBT and Nyhmnim were a match made in heaven and I really enjoy their analysis on the duels. It was so entertaining to see them predict every move and how the entire team worked perfectly. The Shadow game was reaaaaaaaaally cool and I loved how Ruxin won this one with his board, which was really satisfying to see how he advanced bit by bit. Thank you Cimoo for hosting the King of games, it such a incredible serie and I wish the best for all the remaining contestants for the next episode!
@@Delimon007 That didn't really factor into the outcome at all though. We saw the sequence of the decks. It was a bad move, yes, but not one that actually mattered. Part of any card game is randomness. There are only so many things that can be done to mitigate that randomness. Sometimes you just get bad luck. This is ultimately why the best in the world still have winrates around 60%. This is also WHY it's so important to optimize both your play and your deck. Every small advantage matters when the difference between average and best is so small.
Ruxin might not be the best duelist overall, but if there's one format he could make some noise in, it's goat. They should have respected him more on team Farfa
@@dontmisunderstand6041 you can mitigate randomness by drawing a lot, it was just a bad play letting them loop graceful. They saw twice as many cards, obviously the chance of them winning is way higher.
@@EIFuerteThey literally would have looped Graceful the same amount of times. The 3rd time they popped Graceful was not necessary at all, they had full control of the game. They were just doing it to wrap things up. No matter what MoF was gonna loop Graceful 2 times because Seereax literally didn't have any cards to prevent this. It was 100% just a matter of luck favoring Gage.
This was a fun episode. Seeing how Joseph, Paul, and Gage were able to cooperate and really get into the weeds vs a team that barely wants to cooperate is a nice dichotomy
nah the lynch pin was seereax refusing to be a team player thinking he can solo a well working team. if he had toned down the ego trip things could have went differently.
@@uteriel282 i agree to that. In retrospective his decision making makes no sense at all. What are you waiting for not removing MOF? Whats your strategy like fr? Was his plan to let the opponent draw into better cards to snatch those? lmao. hearing them talk about deck outs after graceful resolved 3 times for full value pretty much showed that the entire team was already defeated in skill level alone. They clearly did not understand their situation in that duel nor the the entire gamestate and what that means in a duel of GOAT. *Addition* It is okay to be unaware about a format you dont know, however then you should maybe not play with other peoples progression in a video format if you are in the drivers seat. Its okay to be unexperienced in a YGO Format or a card game in general.
You weren't paying attention then... we saw the cards. We know how it would've gone if that hadn't happened. Nothing changed. Nothing mattered. They never drew the out to the results of the FIRST Graceful Charity. What actually sealed the game was just the sequence of cards in each deck. Simple as that. Not saying it wasn't a mistake to let it keep happening. Just pointing out that it very much was not relevant to the outcome at all. We know that because we saw the cards. And, like MBT and Gage both pointed out, if their opponent had simply drawn the correct cards they lose. Even as far as the last few turns of the game.
@@vinhnhu9381 To an extent yeah. Team Farfa came in with inferior decks. That doesn't exactly decide matches, at least not with the relatively minor differences between the decks, but it's all about gaining those minor advantages to hedge the numbers in your favor. The best in the world still lose 40% of the time, because that's just how the randomness of the game works.
@@dontmisunderstand6041 i have to disagree with that one. Rewind the video. After the first graceful resolved Gages hand was strong but not unbeatable. Snatching the train and run over MOF then tributing thunder dragon over would have probably changed a lot. they had good backrow at that point and destroying the loop early would force bls out. rux had the read on bls in hand very early already. It was just careless to keep that tsukoyomi mof loop around. They had that one power card in snatch steal and decided to not use it what lead to their loss.
Not often these days does a video on RUclips draw me in and keep me utterly enthralled, but King of Games is so good I can watch them endlessly. Exquisetly editted with an amazing cast.
Honestly think the strat for the shadow game is to actually keep your life points relatively high, modulate the 100s total by attacking into the big defense point monster, then dump all your life points at once with Wall (and solemn as well if you can). Since you can dump as many thousand as you want with wall, there's not actually an incentive to be low at any other point in the duel, and keeping yourself high until you're ready to win just means you stay safe from their burn stuff. Honestly maybe even have a burn card ready for when you want to win so you can keep them at a few hundred and finish them off whenever you want without even worrying about battle
seereax not expecting minefield explosion after being hit with minefield golem was even better. shows hes a meta player who doesnt know that 99% of cards exist in this game.
@uteriel282 Seereax almost exclusively plays edison style decks... he even made it to Master V with a Ra deck. I wouldn't call him a META player. But he definitely wasn't around during the time of plays like this. His yugioh playing came mainly from old games like sacred cards as a child and now on master duel
@@uteriel282my dude this is one of the most dumbest comments ever. I don’t like seereax either but to say he uses meta is a lie. Literally look at his channel and see the master duel videos that he uploads before talking out ya ass. Idiot
@@uteriel282 Say what you want about Seerax, but calling him a meta player is disrespectful. No one knew what to expect from the AI. It's like me playing labrynth and suddenly I drop a branded fusion, who could expect that.
I mean he was the only one with ACTUAL Goat experience on his team. Like imagine if Paul and Ruxin were swapped, same result just slightly Faster, or longer depending on the arguments of Farfa, Seerexan with Paul having 0 knowledge of the format
The duality, on one side we have "If we check for that.../They already used it/Oh you prepared that so there won't be a problem/We all agree that this is the best play" On the other we have "Can we check for it?/And he insta skips/Yeah, this won't go well/Backseat gaming" Mildly infuriating, but highly entertaining lol
I love Paul. His team was 2 people who vastly outknowledged him in the format they were thrown into and he still managed to pick up to their pace by listening to them. Good player right there.
i loved that paul was humble enough to take it all in and learn from their experience. compared to that the other "team" was just infuriating to watch.
@@tacomonsternick well im glad ruxin is still in it. people look down on him because he doesnt play the game all that much but out of everyone there he has the most amount of pure card knowledge. i can see him making it to the finals and duke it out with either gage or joseph.
I have no idea if this might even happen this episode but I hope that the final challenge will be everyone picks their best deck and then it’s just a tournament
This is the only ongoing RUclips series I will actually drop what I’m doing to watch as soon as it comes out. Squid Games? Beast Games? Pass. King of Games is all I know.
I would like to show respect and appreciation of Cimo's work here on this new and innovative serie. I'm really enjoying how fun and creative it is. I would also like to show some respect for the guys participating and trully engaging in it. Congratulations, guys! The entertainment is gold here.
I think Paul and seereax are a very stark contrast here. While one was humble and recognized that his teammates knew more than him and was willing to listen to their advice while mot pushing his ideas through. Which ultimately lead to their team having a healthy union. Seereax demonstrated immense ego and and was not a team player at all, and thus his team was at a deteriment.
@@nm2358 Not true at all, Seereax had the upper hand at the start cuz Gage opened awfully and drew badly after too and by rushing he lost it when the small advantages Gage eventually built up resulted in them commanding the board.
@@ArunaUtdare you talking about the top deck mirror force. There was no way to know he pulled it and the TEAM just verified it was in the deck one turn ago. It was all RNG not the player.
Seereax has developed into such a heel its amazing. Its going to be very fun when Ruxin beats him in the finale and he has a breakdown over Ruxin winning over him instead of others.
Seereax is the most obnoxious yapper the show has had from the get go, the reason Sam seemed obnoxious was because Seereax constantly bitched and moaned about him.
Yeah, SeeReax could have thinked a Graceful or Pot into his hand. Not popping Mirror Force and not using metamorphosis were the only two plays that actually mattered lol.
@@nm2358he could have stopped them looping graceful charity. Yes he was saving the snatch for bls, but you can't expect to win a game when the opponent can draw 15 cards more than you. Team Farfa also massively suffered from poor deckbuilding. Thats not only seereaxs fault, but i think his list was the weakest. Gages starting hand was horrendous, but their deck was built so much better that they could come back from that.
Farfa is only hating on Seereax because Seereax has been a hater since the start, let's not get things twisted, Farfa said nothing about Seereax episode 1 or 2, but Seereax kept being a whiny yapper for both games.
@@Vikt0rian seereax literally said it himself the beef isn't real if anything he sees farfa as a real threat and just wanted him gone lmao. some of yall take Internet rivalry too seriously
Goat format is my favorite format to play, so this was truly amazing to watch, also seeing both teams trying to cooperate to get the wins, hilarious, much love to everyone involved!
I'm sure you've picked all of your games that you're gonna have them compete in ahead of time, but something I thought would be really fun is once it's the final 4, one last team game where both members draft a deck, pick 20 of their best cards, put them together in one deck, and basically it's a tag duel type of situation
not stopping mof and letting gage draw his whole deck was the much bigger problem. losing breaker was bad but still recoverable if he didnt let his opponent go +10
Yeah the value machine was nuts. They just couldn’t get a normal summonable monster after that so helping keep him alive may have helped combat mof some
@@uteriel282 We saw the sequence of the cards in both decks. We know for a fact that the graceful loop was not relevant to the outcome at all. By the end of the duel they still had not drawn the out to the board state that resulted from the FIRST cast of Graceful Charity. The game was recoverable all the way to the end... and this is something Gage and MBT continue to point out until it's actually over. Yes, letting it go off repeatedly looks bad on paper. But you have to actually pay attention to the game to really know whether it was a good decision or not. Ultimately, that game was determined by the order of the cards in each deck. Only one meaningful misplay occurred, not using Breaker to pop the Mirror Force. And even if they had done that, it would not have changed anything. For the record, Graceful is net neutral card advantage. It doesn't plus at all. There are synergies within the deck that can make it a +1, or gain effective value from it on top of being card neutral, but Graceful is not a plus.
@@dontmisunderstand6041 yea well too bad gage had assailants and dekoichi to make him plus like crazy from those repeated graceful activations. without resolving graceful so many times gage wouldnt have had all the board breakers and interactives to clean up until another ten or so turns.
Honestly considering the deck he had he have to breaker the mirror force and he could have gotten a win. To illustrate had he breaker the mirror force the outcome could have been - breaker attack train set mof - gage set mof pass ( the other play is card Des which probably would definitely change the game into an unpredictable one but let's consider he is saving it because of bls on hand ) - seereax mof effect get noble man use noble man attack for 1900 gage lp (2300) book mof - gage draw upstart to graceful and to and insane hand of tsukuyomi/sorc/thunder dragon regardless of wht he drops he will have to summon either sorc or bls to clear the board / banish the board but regardless would have been meaningless since seereax next draw was snatch steal and he would have taken game no matter wht This is not considering the hand destruction before noc because the whole deck order would have been different thts why it's a "could have" And "considering the deck he had" he just played a pretty bad deck with bls/breaker/sorc/thousand eyes as his best monsters (like really mimic lvl1?) had the cards drawn been different once breaker leaves the field he had to pray to get bls/sorc/thousand eyes on the field while also needing gage to brick every single draw he have
You have a finite number of outs and win conditions on your deck. Generally speaking, "playing to your outs" means sequencing your plays in a way that sacrifices as few of your paths to victory as possible. Using one of your outs to stop a net neutral value engine when it could instead be used instead to either secure your win condition or out your opponent's win condition is not an automatic choice. Hope this helps you understand why someone might not choose to shut down the value engine play that doesn't progress the board state or pose a threat. Sometimes stopping the value engine is the right play. Sometimes its not. In this case, knowing what we know now, we know for a fact that it didn't matter.
@@dontmisunderstand6041 exactly the only reason why it's a seen as a bad play now is cause of the hindsight of all those bad draws. Even if it was stopped nothing guarantees that you win that duel regardless. Nim did seem to have the better Even without the free draws but it would of probably been a longer and closer duel
MBT and Gage are 1 million IQ player, holy shit that was insane. Happy for Ruxin surviving, feel bad for Farfa though. Anyways, this is peak YGO content, Cimo thank you for making this man.
Man, Cimo, how do you keep coming up with these amazing ideas? This was truly entertaining and gage and mbt showcased that goat format has much more depth than one might believe at first glance (I had no idea). Thank you for all the great content you provide us.
This was, without a doubt, one fo the best YGO videos I've seen in A WHILE. Great concept this week, extremely rewatchable DESPITE the technical issues even, insane moments and VERY educational. Just, so fucking good.
I love watching these, it truly is my most anticipated series in RUclips right now. I may think some players are annoying but that really just adds to the spice of the game. Keep it up fellas
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Seeing Ruxin done dirty all episode to be the first immune in the shadow game made me realize there is justice in this world
It's amazing to see the one team function as a well oiled machine and the other is an incredibly dysfunctional family who hate each other lol
Ruxin being the child of an abusive marriage 🤣
Before watching I am just going to guess MBT will be a a big part of the dysfunction
GOD I WISH THEY WERE WELL OILED 😩
@@grantnielsen1706nope mbt was the entire machine
I just see this comment, and immidiatly know Farfa and MBT got on a team together.
Genuinely surprised that Cimo didn't bait Ruxin by starting with 'Ruxin, you had the HIGHEST amount of LP remaining after the Shadow Game.... BECAUSE THE OTHER TWO WENT TO 0!"
What a lost opportunity !
Exactly! It'd be such a great bait moment - you bait Ruxin to think he lost, you bait both of the others to think the other one won... Would be a really fun reveal.
he's punching air reading this
WD: He’s going to say that Ruxin had the highest number of life points.
Cimo: Congratulations, you survived.
WD: NANI!?
The dichotomy between MBT, Gage, and APS's team doing the Dr Strange timeline reading to play around every potential card that could be set while the other team is like "why are they taking so long, its GOAT" and then immediately misplaying is so funny.
Having Farfa and Seereax on the same team was strategic, tear each other from the inside
Ruxin roasting them for losing to the AI is the funniest thing i have ever heard
Hearing Gage and Joseph discuss counterplay for every card in the format and then eventually land on a play that loses to nothing, and cut over to Seereax claiming there's nothing to think about in GOAT... kinda felt like that was the end of the game just there
They literally called every play, every out they could potentially have and how to play around it. This series was a lock from game 1 turn 1 on lmao
It just shows WHY people love GOAT. It isn't a braindead format, it is a thinking format, but about how to play with and against the opponent and judging what they have and don't have. While there is this in modern, it is MUCH more in GOAT.
Exactly lol. If anything, these duels proved why there ARE things to think about in GOAT, you gotta prepare for every interaction.
This, lmao
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It's a thinking format... until you have PoG or Graceful or Duo.
Our team could not possibly fail!
Love the WVU gear!! 💙💛
you are the hidden goat, my moneys on you winning it all
@@davidneal4733go Mountaineers!
That being said, you are quite the trooper, Ruxin...
Of your team your the only one to go Undefeated, If that's not king of games then I dont know what is!
Cimo's brain for creating games and series really shines here. Like the entire concept of that Chicken Game shadow game was so simple, but it's just a very different way to play the game we know and somehow it's way more entertaining than I expected. Love this series.
Also a perfect cpu that randomly had ways to both gain and lose you lp
I think the fact that everyone thought that Ruxin would fall the moment they stepped into a Master Duel challenge and yet today he was the only one in his team who didn't take multiple Ls shows how Cimo's creativity in the challenges he creates can even the field so well while keeping it very entertaining and skillful.
It keeps the series unpredictable and I love it.
@@diegopinto2090 I wish they went into the game 3, I wanted to see him play for real. But yeah these games have been balanced taking into account that Ruxin doesn't know much about modern cards at all. On the opposite side, they weren't balanced around the idea that some players like Paul really didn't know much about GOAT, he was lucky to be with two teammates that could guide his every move, otherwise it probably would have been a quick loss for him.
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i think we can all admit paul carried
It was like Pacific Rim, two skilled pilots, one unstoppable Paul jaeger
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You didn't even do anything this episode
@@spofethe did tho, him and Gage worked wonders
I really wish that we still got that 3rd duel just to hear Paul Gage and MBT be a well oiled machine a 3rd time
Really just MBT and Gage, Paul being the cheerleader
@@nintendokings Nah Paul was a vital part of the team. Him being able to admit his shortomings in goat format and listening to his teammates was what won them that first duel, we saw what happens when someone cant do that in this very episode
ahh yes a third round of the most boring shit where 2 guys hyper analyse the pros and cons of heavy storming 2 backrow and normal summing sangan for 6 minutes while their team mate might as well go make a sandwich is definitely what this two hour video needed
Hearing Gage and MBT play and talk Goat is nuts man. It was so much fun hearing the interactions and how to play around each one of.
Yeah, it was great and reminds me why they entered a GOAT tournament together.
i always thought goat was boring but they made it so cool
@@luluchroarhonestly me too. I was expecting a series of who can top deck a staple first but the amount of thought and analysis they put into each play was fantastic and very unexpected. Great games!
Honestly Paul contributet more than he gives himself credit for by just recognizing when someone else is better at somthing than you and letting them do it without needing to force you ideas through. That is a pretty good quality to have and one that seereax is lacking
Yeah even he provided some input into the plays on what he was comfortable about. He did exactly what he needed to do.
@@SinamonX It also helps he said he was willing to Learn. He was actually listening and figuring out WHY they were doing stuff instead of just doing it because they said to.
For real, this could've gone very differently if Gage picked Seereax instead of Paul. Unless he was the anchor, there was no way Deion could handle having MBT and Gage brainstorm every move for several minutes.
Seereax doesn’t understand the concept of a team challenge or that his loss directing impacts the other two so that’s why they tried to give input. Dudes so self absorbed it would appear
I think you guys are being too harsh with Seereax, his impatence and stubbornness played a decent role in their loss but he did actually listen to his teammates and made some plays he disagreed with for the good of the team, not every turn but sometimes. Also I just wanna make sure you know he's not actually a complete asshole and most of the intense personality he lets through is part of a character and he does it for entertainment value, he wouldn't get invited to all these collabs if he was actually unpleasant to be around yknow
"Some say goat is a goo goo, gaa gaa baby format, then come clean my dirty diaper, bro" Gage
Over confident Gage is the best character in this series
Joseph and gage finding the no lose end game was incredible. When he millennium eyed the snatch steal it was absolute peak. The confusion on team farfa over the defense Sorc was beautiful. They literally couldn’t process that they lost.
"you don't understand you play to survive I play to win!"
"aw dang it"
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Pretty good summary of this episode lol
the teamwork between gage paul and joseph during those games was crazy good
That was legit impressive and fun to watch. Loved seeing the thinking process and synergy.
i think you mean Gage and Joseph featuring Paul. He barely spoke up lol
@@lilsunny7399
thats because he knew hes inexperienced in goat and let those two coach him to make sure he doesnt fuck up by making a silly misplay like farfa.
better be humble and shut up than be arrogant and the reason your team lost.
@@uteriel282Farfa wasn't the reason they lost
@@uteriel282 I totally agree with your take, Farfa arguably the only one on the other team with any goat knowledge should have spoken more. Ruxin should’ve talked less as his goat series has nothing to do with chaos mirrors
Episode 1: Aww man. They’re not playing Yugioh
Episode 3; Awe man. They’re playing Yugioh
Loved this episode because my GOATs MBT and Nyhmnim were showing that they’re genuinely really smart players. You love to see it
There's a difference between knowledge and intelligence. They are extremely knowledgeable about Goat format, and went out of their way to explain both how and why they became as knowledgeable as they are about that format. They were all playing intelligently.
I've never rooted for anyone more than I have rooted for Ruxin in this series.
The gap between both teams is huge. Seereax refusing to co-operate with his teammates on the falsely-claimed basis (they're backseating), well: if you've never been on a team then sounds like a "you" problem.
I very much liked the Ruxin later comment "I had to team up with these? Who lost to AI" it was sooo fitting.
o7 to farfa.. will miss you. Amazing challenges from Cimo as always can't wait for future episodes ❤
This episode and by extension, the series, was SO FUN to watch. The tactical thinking and commentating, the polar opposite teams, the long watch time. It's just a joy
49:11 “Gage was probably out here with his screenshot folder from progression series!”
Savage callback 😂😂😂
This series is still so good. I don't want this to end, but hope a sequel happens afterward. That match was nuts. The greatest irony is Ruxin being the best duelist on that team. Called the play stopping the advantage engine and got completely ignored.
The fact that the format doesn't have linear archetypal combos is WHY interactive thinking is important.
The analogy I always use when talking about GOAT is think of every interaction you have as a hand trap and multiple turns as a one turn. You can't just be a blind caveman firing your Raigeki and summoning BLS, or you're gonna end up like you Ash'd the Reinoheart just for them to slam down Grief. You need to think through your lines, read what's in their hand, and find the optimal time to use your interactions to stop their momentum.
This felt like an episode of survivor. Watching a team that clearly wants nothing to do with each other work together is just painful.
13:45 Seereax not wanting help in a team format is so Seereax coded.
To be fair he did have some really nice ideas for the plays in Farfa’s game that could’ve given him more of an edge. Tsukuyomi would’ve been tributed for Parshath which either nets them an extra card or gets outed and BLS can hit the board which would’ve turned that into a whole other game. The fact he didn’t Breaker the Mirror Force was odd because at that point there’s no reason not to. I think he opted not to because Farfa said there was a world where he just beats over the set but I could be wrong.
Okay but can we talk about how cool it was to see Gage and MBT just completely analysing every possible play and putting down the perfect play every time? This is one of those moments you see the difference between a good play and a great one.
Without a dabt. I love SeeReax with all my heart, but here he's look like ten years old trying to win in chess against professional.
love watching them playing goat analyticaly while the other team fumbles around and seereax is stuck in his ways about how you play
His ways are perfectly fine. Seereax has beaten Pak, Jesse, Sam, and Cimmoo all in Goat format. It's true he might not be up to date on the latest goat format strategies, but he absolutely can hold hsi own in the format. What doesn't help is when you have other people on your ear telling you how to play *your* deck. This would mess with anyone's head in a competitive setting. You even saw the stress eat away at Gage when he was playing until they started making critical mistakes.
@@NovusIgnis gage being stressed was warranted tht starting hand was without a doubt one of the worse starting hand you could have gotten with the deck and his next few draws before noc was also quite impressively does nothing. I'm sure seereax is an entertaining/good duelist ( i really do that parshaft idea was interesting and him pointing out tsukuyomis effect was also a sign of a person who actually reads lol) but him looking down at the format was what costed them the game not the backseating (and mostly the deck building really should have asked more advice on tht part)
@aiou_61 He doesn't look down on the format though. He was looking down on this particular style, where he isn't playing against another duelist, he just has the controls but it's his team versus their team. How the format should have been was both duelists get to play a normal game with normal time and their teammates are quiet so the players can actually focus. And then if they want to run an idea or a play by their team, only with the player's permission can the council weigh in.
Everyone's commenting on Gage and MBT running through all the plays and possibilities but Seereax literally does the same thing in his Goat format videos. It just doesn't take him early as long because he's not running all of his plays by a committee.
That's what really killed the mood this time, is no one person was playing any of these games, it was an entire team playing and that is not how this is designed to be.
As for their decks, I agree that Seereax's deck was outdated into terms of the most recent theory and so on, but literally so was Farfa and Probably Ruxin's. They all designed their decks by committee too. It just so happens that MBT and Gage have played "official" goat format mroe recently than the other team so they had a leg up on strategy.
@@NovusIgnis I agree that the team play definitely killed the mood and the decks that team farfa had (which we can never see the entirety of expect for seereax) was quite outdated based on what we saw and I don't watch seereax personally so you can cmiiw but he doesn't seem to actually care wht cards that the other player is playing, he plays in a way that seems adapt and overcome ( if that happens I'll figure it out with wht I can draw and what I have ) rather then looking at it as a solved game like Ruxin has ( if this happens what can we do with what we have right now? And do we have something for the worse and the best outcomes? ) which Is definitely more goat format then the adapt and overcome attitude which is more in tune with playground ygo
I agree tho the games should have been individual duels without the other discussing the play with maybe a time out in between to discuss steategies or something lol ( no offense to paul but tht was gage and mbt playing rather then Paul playing )
Time wise cimoo gave 900 seconds for them to discuss plays and they were meant to use that time to discuss the plays tht they should have made, team gage using what was given to them is not an advantage, team farfa not using it is a disadvantage (not sure if it's true but apparently goat format doendt have a time limit lol)
Can we all agree that despite Deion behaviour without him this episode not gonna be even a half that entertaining ?
This episode alone made me rethink every single series Gage & MBT have ever participated in
Just goes to show how good Cimo is at painting tunnels for them to slam into.
alex, joseph and gage are all pros in their own right with years of experience.
the only time they seem dumb is when they play against each other cause theyre so close in terms of skill.
why?
@@luispalacios8423 see @uteriel282's comment
I love how you can see the polar opposite of today's dynamic between them in Dzeef's Master Saga series.
Here they are in sync working with each other like best friends and brothers who look up to and respect each other. Meanwhile in Master Saga they act like two monkeys with knives yelling and insulting each other.
It just shows how good they are at adapting for the shows they currently are participating in to keep them entertaining.
Gage and MBT are so good at GOAT. They made some great plays (with help of opponent misplays) with an absolute garbage of a hand. I love this format lol.
On team farfa, ruxin is the only one thats gone undefeated the whole episode. The goat.
That shadow game actually felt like a shadow game. I was sweating for everyone against that AI
Cimo chose a downright devious setup for that Shadow Game. Spoilers...
The CPU opponent's deck had decently high stat values on the cards, repeatable backrow removal and LP manipulation going both ways. I knew the burn was gonna catch at least one of them. The way that worked out was downright hilarious. Punish their arrogance!!!
"Come clean my dirty diaper bro" - Gage 2025
Cimo saw two YCS winners out and went straight to dueling finally lmao
This vid was 2 hours. If they had dueled with all 8, it probably would be 3+ hours lol it was the correct decision to wait for the amount of contestants to drop before dueling
@Atlantafan21 I mean still it's just funny how the dueling started once they were eliminated lol
@Atlantafan21 then again the main bulk of the video is because during seereax's duel the other team spent 5 years discussing each play and it wasn't limited to 300 seconds either
This isn't Cimo. I'm sure he had the entire series scheduled out before he even got the participants for it. This is on the players. Remember, in the previous two episodes, many of them explicitly said that they were targeting Josh and Sam because they saw those two as the big threats for any future battle-centric challenge.
1:43:18 this is why Ruxin is our 9 YCS champion 💪
One of the best episode so far, MBT and Nyhmnim were a match made in heaven and I really enjoy their analysis on the duels. It was so entertaining to see them predict every move and how the entire team worked perfectly. The Shadow game was reaaaaaaaaally cool and I loved how Ruxin won this one with his board, which was really satisfying to see how he advanced bit by bit. Thank you Cimoo for hosting the King of games, it such a incredible serie and I wish the best for all the remaining contestants for the next episode!
Deion is the hardcore competitive yugioh people’s villain. But for us here purely for entertainment he’s the people’s champion.
Ruxin's bls lead was spot on. Searaxe and farfa showed why their team lost in that shadow game
Yup, he told them that letting them draw every out in their deck was a bad move too, too bad they didn't listen.
@@Delimon007 That didn't really factor into the outcome at all though. We saw the sequence of the decks. It was a bad move, yes, but not one that actually mattered. Part of any card game is randomness. There are only so many things that can be done to mitigate that randomness. Sometimes you just get bad luck. This is ultimately why the best in the world still have winrates around 60%. This is also WHY it's so important to optimize both your play and your deck. Every small advantage matters when the difference between average and best is so small.
Ruxin might not be the best duelist overall, but if there's one format he could make some noise in, it's goat. They should have respected him more on team Farfa
@@dontmisunderstand6041 you can mitigate randomness by drawing a lot, it was just a bad play letting them loop graceful. They saw twice as many cards, obviously the chance of them winning is way higher.
@@EIFuerteThey literally would have looped Graceful the same amount of times. The 3rd time they popped Graceful was not necessary at all, they had full control of the game. They were just doing it to wrap things up. No matter what MoF was gonna loop Graceful 2 times because Seereax literally didn't have any cards to prevent this. It was 100% just a matter of luck favoring Gage.
This was a fun episode. Seeing how Joseph, Paul, and Gage were able to cooperate and really get into the weeds vs a team that barely wants to cooperate is a nice dichotomy
Maybe the final will be a full power ishizu tear mirror
that or a dragon ruler mirror. It could be pretty funny especially considering Josh would have loved those
@ that can be the 2v2
Why give MBT the free win?
@ do you really think he’s making it
@@banettebrochacho5636 compared to the rest of them, yes
as soon as gage and mbt were on the same team this video was set in stone tbh
nah the lynch pin was seereax refusing to be a team player thinking he can solo a well working team.
if he had toned down the ego trip things could have went differently.
@@uteriel282 i agree to that. In retrospective his decision making makes no sense at all. What are you waiting for not removing MOF? Whats your strategy like fr? Was his plan to let the opponent draw into better cards to snatch those? lmao. hearing them talk about deck outs after graceful resolved 3 times for full value pretty much showed that the entire team was already defeated in skill level alone. They clearly did not understand their situation in that duel nor the the entire gamestate and what that means in a duel of GOAT.
*Addition*
It is okay to be unaware about a format you dont know, however then you should maybe not play with other peoples progression in a video format if you are in the drivers seat. Its okay to be unexperienced in a YGO Format or a card game in general.
22:00 "niche interaction with Tsukoyomi" yeah I mean most people would call that *the defining trait of all Spirit monsters* but to each their own.
Is it even an interaction if it’s interacting with itself 😭 it’s a mechanic lol
After he got his ass handed to him by Gage's Shinobirds, he chose to block all memories of spirits from his mind.
That graceful MoF loop in game 2 was disgusting, it sealed the game for them on the spot
You weren't paying attention then... we saw the cards. We know how it would've gone if that hadn't happened. Nothing changed. Nothing mattered. They never drew the out to the results of the FIRST Graceful Charity. What actually sealed the game was just the sequence of cards in each deck. Simple as that.
Not saying it wasn't a mistake to let it keep happening. Just pointing out that it very much was not relevant to the outcome at all. We know that because we saw the cards. And, like MBT and Gage both pointed out, if their opponent had simply drawn the correct cards they lose. Even as far as the last few turns of the game.
it was as disgusting as gage's diaper😂😂😂
@@dontmisunderstand6041 i mean the game was decided just from deck building tbh
@@vinhnhu9381 To an extent yeah. Team Farfa came in with inferior decks. That doesn't exactly decide matches, at least not with the relatively minor differences between the decks, but it's all about gaining those minor advantages to hedge the numbers in your favor. The best in the world still lose 40% of the time, because that's just how the randomness of the game works.
@@dontmisunderstand6041 i have to disagree with that one. Rewind the video. After the first graceful resolved Gages hand was strong but not unbeatable. Snatching the train and run over MOF then tributing thunder dragon over would have probably changed a lot. they had good backrow at that point and destroying the loop early would force bls out. rux had the read on bls in hand very early already. It was just careless to keep that tsukoyomi mof loop around. They had that one power card in snatch steal and decided to not use it what lead to their loss.
Not often these days does a video on RUclips draw me in and keep me utterly enthralled, but King of Games is so good I can watch them endlessly. Exquisetly editted with an amazing cast.
Honestly think the strat for the shadow game is to actually keep your life points relatively high, modulate the 100s total by attacking into the big defense point monster, then dump all your life points at once with Wall (and solemn as well if you can). Since you can dump as many thousand as you want with wall, there's not actually an incentive to be low at any other point in the duel, and keeping yourself high until you're ready to win just means you stay safe from their burn stuff. Honestly maybe even have a burn card ready for when you want to win so you can keep them at a few hundred and finish them off whenever you want without even worrying about battle
Farfa losing to Abaki burn is the most hilarious thing in this video
seereax not expecting minefield explosion after being hit with minefield golem was even better.
shows hes a meta player who doesnt know that 99% of cards exist in this game.
@uteriel282 Seereax almost exclusively plays edison style decks... he even made it to Master V with a Ra deck. I wouldn't call him a META player. But he definitely wasn't around during the time of plays like this. His yugioh playing came mainly from old games like sacred cards as a child and now on master duel
@@uteriel282my dude this is one of the most dumbest comments ever. I don’t like seereax either but to say he uses meta is a lie. Literally look at his channel and see the master duel videos that he uploads before talking out ya ass. Idiot
@@uteriel282 Say what you want about Seerax, but calling him a meta player is disrespectful. No one knew what to expect from the AI. It's like me playing labrynth and suddenly I drop a branded fusion, who could expect that.
Sereax talks like hes filming a new employee training video
Farfa the word u were looking for is underrated
i was thinking underdog
@@MiyaoMeow588 both work even underestimated
Y´know, Ruxin trashtalking the AI while also taking the most precautions about not randomly getting blown to bits is hilarious and very telling
the only smart member of team farfa.
Crazy ruxin was probably playing better than seereax this episode....
I think he was tilted from game 2 of the team duel
Ruxin cooked Seereax on his channel too
...and is so much more fun to listen to...
Ruxin better win the entire thing by the end of the series.
I am rooting so hard for Ruxin my thumbs might die off from lack of blood pumping through them
“I’m gonna blame charity” - Farfa
Ruxin actually emerging as the one with the braincells on this challenge series
I mean he was the only one with ACTUAL Goat experience on his team. Like imagine if Paul and Ruxin were swapped, same result just slightly Faster, or longer depending on the arguments of Farfa, Seerexan with Paul having 0 knowledge of the format
The duality, on one side we have
"If we check for that.../They already used it/Oh you prepared that so there won't be a problem/We all agree that this is the best play"
On the other we have
"Can we check for it?/And he insta skips/Yeah, this won't go well/Backseat gaming"
Mildly infuriating, but highly entertaining lol
this is some of the best stuff ive watched on youtube. thanks for uploading
SeeReax is pure evil and I’m here for it
Somebody has to make it interesting.
Agree that despite Deion behaviour this episode wasn't be even a half that entertaining without of him?
I love Paul. His team was 2 people who vastly outknowledged him in the format they were thrown into and he still managed to pick up to their pace by listening to them. Good player right there.
I loved seeing Joseph and Gage in their element spewing knowledge on TeamAPS.
i loved that paul was humble enough to take it all in and learn from their experience.
compared to that the other "team" was just infuriating to watch.
@@uteriel282 Ya, after the shamble the other team put on, I was hoping they'd all be eliminated in the shadow game, lol.
@@tacomonsternick
well im glad ruxin is still in it.
people look down on him because he doesnt play the game all that much but out of everyone there he has the most amount of pure card knowledge.
i can see him making it to the finals and duke it out with either gage or joseph.
@@uteriel282define card knowlede pls (I'm not trying to be sassy I'm genuinely curious what you mean by this since Im not seereax viewer)
Their element is draining all the charisma out of any video they're in
Once again Ruxin proves that he is the best yugioh player around.
his play at the end was great. but seereax DID go even lower. If he was a bit less stubborn this episode he might be at the top
@@gtafan110010 seereax had a 3rd rate deck and 5th rate duelists guiding him with it, there was no chance against the power of friendship
Dion saying "i think they have book of moon" when he couldve just made sure when they NoC'd
This is such a great series.
I hope in the long run you keep doing the series until there are 8 champions, then do an ultimate winner
49:14 Gage with his screenshot folder 😂😂
I have no idea if this might even happen this episode but I hope that the final challenge will be everyone picks their best deck and then it’s just a tournament
Clutchxin34 the sleeper of the series came in strong again!
Seereax is an amazing heel, cant wait for his and Mbt's inevitable villain showdown
Love this man. Hope he stays here until final episode.
I don't care if he win or lose. It will be amazing show any way.
Everyone everyone please give Cimo his flowers on creating the coolest colab in quite awhile. The editing was spot on . The age of Gage lives on🎉🎉🎉
I would love to be in Cimo position just listening to these guys just trash talk each other and just getting all the laughs
ruxin chad and age of gage, what an episode
Honestly the brainstorming from gage and mbt helped them beyond playing well, it was tilting the opponents making them play worse
"Joseph's day off" was so funny
God this series is just cinema front to back. I always anticipate the next episode so much and already cant wait for the next one
This is the only ongoing RUclips series I will actually drop what I’m doing to watch as soon as it comes out. Squid Games? Beast Games? Pass. King of Games is all I know.
beast games are just a worser version of squid games anyway, yugioh where it at
I would like to show respect and appreciation of Cimo's work here on this new and innovative serie. I'm really enjoying how fun and creative it is. I would also like to show some respect for the guys participating and trully engaging in it. Congratulations, guys! The entertainment is gold here.
I think Paul and seereax are a very stark contrast here. While one was humble and recognized that his teammates knew more than him and was willing to listen to their advice while mot pushing his ideas through. Which ultimately lead to their team having a healthy union. Seereax demonstrated immense ego and and was not a team player at all, and thus his team was at a deteriment.
I appreciate the performance he's putting on! Someone has to play the heel.
Its goat, the initial aggressive approach by SeeReax sas absolutely the play, the draws were just not there for him.
@@nm2358 Not true at all, Seereax had the upper hand at the start cuz Gage opened awfully and drew badly after too and by rushing he lost it when the small advantages Gage eventually built up resulted in them commanding the board.
@@ArunaUtdare you talking about the top deck mirror force. There was no way to know he pulled it and the TEAM just verified it was in the deck one turn ago. It was all RNG not the player.
@@DeanWashington-k2uthey still had a way to stop the graceful recycle early though, no?
Before watching too much, I have a theory that Farfa deleted all his footage because he lost and didn't think to save it.
I’m here for the underdog. ❤️ seerax
Same 🤎
the sheer difference in commentary between each team was insane lmao
Seereax has developed into such a heel its amazing.
Its going to be very fun when Ruxin beats him in the finale and he has a breakdown over Ruxin winning over him instead of others.
O.M.G...
Hope you right. It may be hilarious. I enjoy both of them, so much.
SeeReax complaining about the thinking from the other team in game one, but if they had taken sometime to think game one would have been closer.
Seereax is the most obnoxious yapper the show has had from the get go, the reason Sam seemed obnoxious was because Seereax constantly bitched and moaned about him.
@@Vikt0rian nah Sam is pretty annoying by himself, he doesn't need Seereax boosting that
Yeah, SeeReax could have thinked a Graceful or Pot into his hand.
Not popping Mirror Force and not using metamorphosis were the only two plays that actually mattered lol.
@@Vikt0rian Yeah, we get it. you hate him, carry on now.
@@nm2358he could have stopped them looping graceful charity. Yes he was saving the snatch for bls, but you can't expect to win a game when the opponent can draw 15 cards more than you.
Team Farfa also massively suffered from poor deckbuilding. Thats not only seereaxs fault, but i think his list was the weakest. Gages starting hand was horrendous, but their deck was built so much better that they could come back from that.
Just let Farfa and Seereax go one on one in master duel, hilarious how much they hate eachother
Farfa is only hating on Seereax because Seereax has been a hater since the start, let's not get things twisted, Farfa said nothing about Seereax episode 1 or 2, but Seereax kept being a whiny yapper for both games.
@ If you watched the 1st episode Seereax called out Farfa for downgrading him on his podcast and really didn't think before he spoke.
I don't blame Seereax at all
@@Vikt0rian seereax literally said it himself the beef isn't real if anything he sees farfa as a real threat and just wanted him gone lmao. some of yall take Internet rivalry too seriously
Goat format is my favorite format to play, so this was truly amazing to watch, also seeing both teams trying to cooperate to get the wins, hilarious, much love to everyone involved!
I don’t think I’ve laughed so hard in a long while
I'm sure you've picked all of your games that you're gonna have them compete in ahead of time, but something I thought would be really fun is once it's the final 4, one last team game where both members draft a deck, pick 20 of their best cards, put them together in one deck, and basically it's a tag duel type of situation
Haven't watched the episode yet, but this BETTER be a 3v3 turbo duel like in 5D's (I believe Relay Duel is the term?)
One team played very optimised goat format lists while the other one just vibed lol
If seereax had used breaker on mirror force that may have helped keep the game in check. After that play it felt like everything was lost.
not stopping mof and letting gage draw his whole deck was the much bigger problem.
losing breaker was bad but still recoverable if he didnt let his opponent go +10
Yeah the value machine was nuts. They just couldn’t get a normal summonable monster after that so helping keep him alive may have helped combat mof some
@@uteriel282 We saw the sequence of the cards in both decks. We know for a fact that the graceful loop was not relevant to the outcome at all. By the end of the duel they still had not drawn the out to the board state that resulted from the FIRST cast of Graceful Charity. The game was recoverable all the way to the end... and this is something Gage and MBT continue to point out until it's actually over. Yes, letting it go off repeatedly looks bad on paper. But you have to actually pay attention to the game to really know whether it was a good decision or not. Ultimately, that game was determined by the order of the cards in each deck. Only one meaningful misplay occurred, not using Breaker to pop the Mirror Force. And even if they had done that, it would not have changed anything.
For the record, Graceful is net neutral card advantage. It doesn't plus at all. There are synergies within the deck that can make it a +1, or gain effective value from it on top of being card neutral, but Graceful is not a plus.
@@dontmisunderstand6041
yea well too bad gage had assailants and dekoichi to make him plus like crazy from those repeated graceful activations.
without resolving graceful so many times gage wouldnt have had all the board breakers and interactives to clean up until another ten or so turns.
Honestly considering the deck he had he have to breaker the mirror force and he could have gotten a win.
To illustrate had he breaker the mirror force the outcome could have been
- breaker attack train set mof
- gage set mof pass ( the other play is card Des which probably would definitely change the game into an unpredictable one but let's consider he is saving it because of bls on hand )
- seereax mof effect get noble man use noble man attack for 1900 gage lp (2300) book mof
- gage draw upstart to graceful and to and insane hand of tsukuyomi/sorc/thunder dragon regardless of wht he drops he will have to summon either sorc or bls to clear the board / banish the board but regardless would have been meaningless since seereax next draw was snatch steal and he would have taken game no matter wht
This is not considering the hand destruction before noc because the whole deck order would have been different thts why it's a "could have"
And "considering the deck he had" he just played a pretty bad deck with bls/breaker/sorc/thousand eyes as his best monsters (like really mimic lvl1?) had the cards drawn been different once breaker leaves the field he had to pray to get bls/sorc/thousand eyes on the field while also needing gage to brick every single draw he have
I have no idea why this guy let them grace through their entire deck. You were in a lose lose situation, might as well make SOMETHING of it!
You have a finite number of outs and win conditions on your deck. Generally speaking, "playing to your outs" means sequencing your plays in a way that sacrifices as few of your paths to victory as possible. Using one of your outs to stop a net neutral value engine when it could instead be used instead to either secure your win condition or out your opponent's win condition is not an automatic choice.
Hope this helps you understand why someone might not choose to shut down the value engine play that doesn't progress the board state or pose a threat. Sometimes stopping the value engine is the right play. Sometimes its not. In this case, knowing what we know now, we know for a fact that it didn't matter.
@@dontmisunderstand6041 exactly the only reason why it's a seen as a bad play now is cause of the hindsight of all those bad draws. Even if it was stopped nothing guarantees that you win that duel regardless. Nim did seem to have the better Even without the free draws but it would of probably been a longer and closer duel
It’s crazy that alex is barely in this video lol
Hearing Gage and MBT talk through that second game especially was actually a work of art. Made me see GOAT in a completely new light
Seconds 40-55 perfectly explains everything you need to know about these guys
"His deck is not very good" - The guy who played the Terraforming for Verdant Sancuary combo
MBT and Gage are 1 million IQ player, holy shit that was insane. Happy for Ruxin surviving, feel bad for Farfa though. Anyways, this is peak YGO content, Cimo thank you for making this man.
Man, Cimo, how do you keep coming up with these amazing ideas? This was truly entertaining and gage and mbt showcased that goat format has much more depth than one might believe at first glance (I had no idea). Thank you for all the great content you provide us.
I vote for Cimo to host the next season of survivor!
This was, without a doubt, one fo the best YGO videos I've seen in A WHILE. Great concept this week, extremely rewatchable DESPITE the technical issues even, insane moments and VERY educational. Just, so fucking good.
Hell yea, love this series
I love watching these, it truly is my most anticipated series in RUclips right now. I may think some players are annoying but that really just adds to the spice of the game. Keep it up fellas