@ShijunWangPianoChannel thanks for video very interesting and helpful, iam humbly speaking a self taught pianist from the age of 15yrs old iam 53yrs old now, I recently taught myself to play the Sonata A major k331 theme and 6 variations and the 3rd rondo alla turca, and also the k332 1st movement and 3rd movement allegro assai,( learning the 2nd getting there 👍) I want to please ask about pedaling, does the k332 require much pedal or should it be done sparingly, and when trilling what please would your recommended fingering be please,if you are able to answer this would be great and most appreciated, greetings from wales uk 😀
@adrianthomas6244 hi, nice to meet you here. The pedaling rules are, don’t pedal through the melodic line even if the melodic notes are in the same harmony, simply because no singers on earth are able to sing and hold more than two notes.. I would also experiment with the different depth of the pedal, it’s never as simple as on and off. The fingering for which trill? My favorite fingering is 1-3 as it allow my wrist to rotate most comfortably.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel thank you very much, this is very helpfull, I was pedaling really through the entire piece, especially the sturm and drang, and also the loverly sequence where the hands are like doing a chase sequence that you very well described like the characters are looking for something and then the chords after, so I really need to be a lot more sparing and not use the pedal as much as I was, the trills I am referring are towards the end that culminates with the double trill in the first and third section, I really appreciate the comment back, greetings from wales uk 😀
I would slightly amend his interpretation of the section beginning with the pickup to measure 13 (minute 8 in the video). I was thrilled to find that in his connection of this passage to Non Più Andrai, from The Marriage of Figaro, he was referencing the exact same aria in which occurs orchestral material that I believe was subconsciously at the basis of my own interpretation of the passage; but I feel he diminishes the music a bit by tossing it off as entirely a comic character being introduced. This section has always explicitly sounded to me like french horns and winds playing, perhaps calling from a slight distance, in response to the opening lyrical passage. The character and orchestration in the horns and winds in the last section of Non Più Andrai are an impeccable example of exactly how I hear it; I feel that the sound of the horns is so explicit in the pickup to measure 13, as to render the assertion as solid almost beyond the point of mere interpretation. And since at that point in the aria there is a slight desperation and drama in the sound of the military calling Cherubino away, this informs my sentiment that Mr. Wang misses some dimension and emotionality that is present in the passage, by referring to it merely as a "comic character."
I'm 62 years old and I've been playing this sonata 46 years. I agree with each word you said, but I don't think that this operatic approach is needed or helps in any way, since this music is so simple to understand. But the video is interesting. Keep up the good work. Bela Papai/ Hungary
Thank you for the video, this has improved my understanding of Mozart's sonata a lot. Now I am learning this piece and I think it is a great idea to approach the pieces as an opera with different scenes rather than a sonata with different parts. I am very grateful that I found this video, it not only helped me but increased my motivation as well. Kudos :D
Listening to you teach about piano sir is like ASMR, so informative yet so comforting and soothing. You are an amazing instructor during these difficult times
I just picked this Sonata at random and realized I dove headfirst into one of his most difficult sonatas. Thanks for explaining how to approach it so well!
Your channel is not only amazing: it seems to be made for me, since I´ve played (this sonata, 20 years ago) most of the pieces you talk about. What´s amazing is that I have not played a lot a different music through the years, so this is a big coincidence. Thank you!
You have amazing insights on this Sonata. Now I have a better understanding and appreciation on Mozart’s piano repertoire. Thank you! I hope you would consider doing a tutorial on Mozart’s Sonata in A Minor in the future. Regardless, I look forward to your videos.
I think i must face my fear now, for many years ive avoided Mozart except K521 (I had no choice) but your explanation of his sonatas being transparent is reason why I avoided it, fairly easy to play, very hard to play well unlike Chopin, a bit of extended pedaling will cover it up. You probably have given me the motivation to maybe explore Mozart again lol.
Many thanks for your fantastic insight to this wonderful piece! As an adult learner of piano I really love listening to Mozart sonatas but find them such a nightmare to learn and play. Currently working towards my first diploma and think I may have to opt for a Beethoven sonata instead.
Love your board creative imaginative views on this movement! I start to think your English version is better for reasons I could not explain.😀 Currently I’m working on k331 variations with my student. I can imagine Mozart having fun taking us into 6 scenes in his little opera haha.
Thank you so much for this video, Shijun. I wish I had watched it many years ago when I was learning this piece in high school. I played this movement very badly, and I turned to my teacher and confessed that I didn't understand Mozart, and she nodded her head. It made me discouraged and frustrated and I quit piano soon afterwards. Many decades later, I decided to revisit this piece. I came to the same conclusion as yours about an operatic approach, and I was happy to see your confirmation. Unlike you, I wasn't reminded of "Non Piú Andrai" but actually Papageno. I imagine him peeking out of the piano when I play this phrase. Since I'm relearning this piece, I wanted to ask about Measures 10 and 11. In my book, there is no tie symbol between the F notes. Is that a typo? I looked at another score, and it has a tie. Should I play the F note in Measure 11? And for when the same phrase appears later on?
From a amateur piano hobbyist (no disrespect intended): Why do we need to know what people during Mozarts time were thinking? If they had a Steinway Model D Concert Grand to play - which would blow their minds completely, Mozarts notations on the music would be totally different, to me.
I hope his students appreciate what a gem this professor is.
thanks for the kind words Orrin. Many of them do. :)
@ShijunWangPianoChannel thanks for video very interesting and helpful, iam humbly speaking a self taught pianist from the age of 15yrs old iam 53yrs old now, I recently taught myself to play the Sonata A major k331 theme and 6 variations and the 3rd rondo alla turca, and also the k332 1st movement and 3rd movement allegro assai,( learning the 2nd getting there 👍) I want to please ask about pedaling, does the k332 require much pedal or should it be done sparingly, and when trilling what please would your recommended fingering be please,if you are able to answer this would be great and most appreciated, greetings from wales uk 😀
@adrianthomas6244 hi, nice to meet you here. The pedaling rules are, don’t pedal through the melodic line even if the melodic notes are in the same harmony, simply because no singers on earth are able to sing and hold more than two notes.. I would also experiment with the different depth of the pedal, it’s never as simple as on and off. The fingering for which trill? My favorite fingering is 1-3 as it allow my wrist to rotate most comfortably.
@ShijunWangPianoChannel thank you very much, this is very helpfull, I was pedaling really through the entire piece, especially the sturm and drang, and also the loverly sequence where the hands are like doing a chase sequence that you very well described like the characters are looking for something and then the chords after, so I really need to be a lot more sparing and not use the pedal as much as I was, the trills I am referring are towards the end that culminates with the double trill in the first and third section, I really appreciate the comment back, greetings from wales uk 😀
I would slightly amend his interpretation of the section beginning with the pickup to measure 13 (minute 8 in the video). I was thrilled to find that in his connection of this passage to Non Più Andrai, from The Marriage of Figaro, he was referencing the exact same aria in which occurs orchestral material that I believe was subconsciously at the basis of my own interpretation of the passage; but I feel he diminishes the music a bit by tossing it off as entirely a comic character being introduced. This section has always explicitly sounded to me like french horns and winds playing, perhaps calling from a slight distance, in response to the opening lyrical passage. The character and orchestration in the horns and winds in the last section of Non Più Andrai are an impeccable example of exactly how I hear it; I feel that the sound of the horns is so explicit in the pickup to measure 13, as to render the assertion as solid almost beyond the point of mere interpretation. And since at that point in the aria there is a slight desperation and drama in the sound of the military calling Cherubino away, this informs my sentiment that Mr. Wang misses some dimension and emotionality that is present in the passage, by referring to it merely as a "comic character."
I really like this professor's interpretation. It makes a lot of sense. 👍
I'm 62 years old and I've been playing this sonata 46 years. I agree with each word you said, but I don't think that this operatic approach is needed or helps in any way, since this music is so simple to understand. But the video is interesting. Keep up the good work. Bela Papai/ Hungary
Thank you for the video, this has improved my understanding of Mozart's sonata a lot. Now I am learning this piece and I think it is a great idea to approach the pieces as an opera with different scenes rather than a sonata with different parts. I am very grateful that I found this video, it not only helped me but increased my motivation as well. Kudos :D
Listening to you teach about piano sir is like ASMR, so informative yet so comforting and soothing. You are an amazing instructor during these difficult times
I had to google ASMR. Wow, so nice of you. Thank you.
Very good video. Insightful and presented well.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you Prof. Wang!
I just picked this Sonata at random and realized I dove headfirst into one of his most difficult sonatas. Thanks for explaining how to approach it so well!
I enjoyed this guide to interpretation, very much - thanks!
Thank you! What an inspiring lesson! The way you identify the operatic writing is so helpful.
Thank you!
As Schnabel said, “the sonatas of Mozart are unique; they are too easy for children and too difficult for artists”.
Exactly!
And it is exactly the opposite with romantic composers...
This is interesting explanation, thanks for sharing!
Marvelous! Thank you!
Thank you very much! It’s been a long time since I enjoyed a “lesson” or even a speech like this one today! Congratulations!!!
Wonderful insight thank you very much professor!
A very captivating video. It makes me excited to play Mozart. Thank you Shijun!
Your channel is not only amazing: it seems to be made for me, since I´ve played (this sonata, 20 years ago) most of the pieces you talk about. What´s amazing is that I have not played a lot a different music through the years, so this is a big coincidence. Thank you!
I am glad to hear. If these videos inspire you a thing or two.
This is a very good one! Learn a lot from this particular lecture!!!
Great work!
Thank you. António
Thank you Dr Shijun
Thanks Dylan.
Thankyou for your inspiration, effort and wonderful videos!! Really grateful :))
Thank you Julia!
Ok... this makes me feel a little better about my struggling with my Mozart playing. lol.
Everyone struggles!
Excellent approach!
You have amazing insights on this Sonata. Now I have a better understanding and appreciation on Mozart’s piano repertoire. Thank you! I hope you would consider doing a tutorial on Mozart’s Sonata in A Minor in the future. Regardless, I look forward to your videos.
Thank you! I am planning on a Haydn sonata after this one. Hopefully to cover as many composers as I can.
Amazing
I think i must face my fear now, for many years ive avoided Mozart except K521 (I had no choice) but your explanation of his sonatas being transparent is reason why I avoided it, fairly easy to play, very hard to play well unlike Chopin, a bit of extended pedaling will cover it up.
You probably have given me the motivation to maybe explore Mozart again lol.
how lovely！ go face the storm!
Wow!
Can you please please do a K309 tutorial?
Notifications added?
Many thanks for your fantastic insight to this wonderful piece! As an adult learner of piano I really love listening to Mozart sonatas but find them such a nightmare to learn and play. Currently working towards my first diploma and think I may have to opt for a Beethoven sonata instead.
Mozart is the hardest indeed!
Love your board creative imaginative views on this movement! I start to think your English version is better for reasons I could not explain.😀
Currently I’m working on k331 variations with my student. I can imagine Mozart having fun taking us into 6 scenes in his little opera haha.
I guess you are right. I am more use to teach in English for obvious reasons:)
Thank you so much for this video, Shijun. I wish I had watched it many years ago when I was learning this piece in high school. I played this movement very badly, and I turned to my teacher and confessed that I didn't understand Mozart, and she nodded her head. It made me discouraged and frustrated and I quit piano soon afterwards.
Many decades later, I decided to revisit this piece. I came to the same conclusion as yours about an operatic approach, and I was happy to see your confirmation.
Unlike you, I wasn't reminded of "Non Piú Andrai" but actually Papageno. I imagine him peeking out of the piano when I play this phrase.
Since I'm relearning this piece, I wanted to ask about Measures 10 and 11. In my book, there is no tie symbol between the F notes. Is that a typo? I looked at another score, and it has a tie. Should I play the F note in Measure 11? And for when the same phrase appears later on?
I was thinking to start Mozarts but not sure if K545 or this one...any suggestion?
K 545 is considerably easier so it depends on your level and which Sonata you prefer. K 545 is too overplayed in my opinion.
From a amateur piano hobbyist (no disrespect intended): Why do we need to know what people during Mozarts time were thinking? If they had a Steinway Model D Concert Grand to play - which would blow their minds completely, Mozarts notations on the music would be totally different, to me.
It’s a valuable point! It’s like this in all fields, even politicos. The argument between the traditional and the progressive views.
老师会说中文吗？
估计最近会出一个中文版的😂
会，所有内容都有中英文两个版本。